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Let's have a Classical thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlPCLYVkX0Y
No flac classical works for me to download on this thread OP?
You're doing this wrong.
>>64255305
They're in the last one.
>>64255312
i know and i downloaded like a maniac. listening to the Mahler 2nd symphony right now. My god, this shit is so powerful.
you guys were right, this is way better than abbado's directing. way better.
I like choral
>>64255737
which conductor did you end up listening to
>>64255737
>better than Abbado
I didn't realize such a thing was possible.
Do you have mav/mp3/cue ?
>>64255924
A status quite easily obtainable.
>>64255915
Stokowski.
Now i'm going to listen to the 4th directed by Mengelberg.
>>64255963
the one on BBC legends? that's one of the better ones.
as a companion to the 4th/Mengelberg you might be interested in listening to this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiGlnq7gmG4
it's a concise survey by Cooke where he goes into some detail regarding Mahlerian tradition by cross-referencing Mengelberg/Walter/Klemperer (all associates of Mahler, though to variable degrees) and their recordings of the 4th, along with Mahler's own piano roll of the final movement.
it's an interesting listen and pretty accessible too.
>>64255947
Aww. He isn't that bad. I find him pretty good. Especially when he directed Wagner.
>>64256027
I don't dislike him at all, if anything I think he was probably one of the most consistent conductors out there.
Thing is I've never heard anything 'great' from him. Never heard anything 'bad' either. He's always just 'good'. In my opinion, anyway.
Alright boys, I think I've had enough of Gesualdo. Where do I go from here? More choral music, please.
>>64255924
Abbado is a pretty good second rater. Solid in a lot of things but there is almost always someone better. Verdi and Mussorgsky are perhaps where he's best.
>>64256084
Josquin
>>64256084
Monteverdi, Marenzio, Landini
>>64255924
Abbado is my goto since I've never heard a bad recording from him. But if I really like a piece I'll do the research to find a really good performance and that's never been Abbado.
>>64256084
Is any of Rossini's post-retirement music any good? I want to get in to Rossini.
Mozart is trash music for plebs.
I've become absolutely baffled by Mozart. I've never listened to Mozart much but after hearing a lot of Bach it somehow started clicking more. It's insane that he wrote just masterpiece after masterpiece. Even just listening to his 34th symphony right now or hearing the rondo in d major for piano and orchestra on the radio for the first time. Adding that opera is probably the best he did and I only scratched Die Zauberflöte a bit.
>>64260231
His Stabat Mater his hilarious and beautiful.
>>64260775
>tfw mozart did not live to finish his requiem
![chardin-25-uy-el-nic3b1o-de-la-peonza[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oe8FWod.jpg "chardin-25-uy-el-nic3b1o-de-la-peonza[1].jpg")
>>64260775
What do you think about his piano sonatas?
>>64261016
I think I've heard like 80%. Like 16th the most, but that's probably because it's the first one that really clicked.
Side question. Am I the only one that has needed long periods of exposure to barque or classicism for example before really appreciating it? It's not that I didn't like it when I listened to a top 100 8 years ago. But, and this is probably due to an exposure to firetruck sounds from a young age, Shostakovich and Wagner impressed me way more for some reason when I started listening to classical. Much less constrained also. Maybe it's the incorporation of the aesthetics of the arts in those days.
>>64260969
>tfw when you could have really it needed after your mom died from cancer 4 months ago
Closest thing I have is Brahms' one.
>>64261286
I think it's all about how you respond to the music. It took me awhile to get around to Haydn, for example, but he is easily in my top 10 now and his String Quartets are my favorite ever.
Initially though I too was swept up with the romantics and it took me a bit longer to appreciate classical composers. Though I wouldn't say that one is necessarily more complex than the other. Wagner's Ring is so jam packed with detail for instance that you could probably study the thing for years. It's just, on the surface level, the romantics appealed to my immediate tastes more do than classical composers like Mozart and Haydn.
You just get wider tastes as you listen, I think. Nowadays I have my favorites from just about every period. Only thing I haven't come around to just yet are some certain aspects of late serialism.
What is the best version of Dvořáks "American"?
>>64261016
14th/8th are the best desu
>>64261943
For me it was the opposite. I loved Mozart right off the bat but the only romantic I liked was Brahms. I grew to enjoy Wagner, Mahler, and Bruckner after awhile though. It really helped that a lot of people here were willing to recommend interpretations that catered to my tastes.
>>64262014
Kertész
Fricsay or Kubelik after that
>>64262058
He probably means the quartet, not the new world symphony
>>64262014
His 13th quartet
Zzz
>>64255737
>Mahler 2nd symphony right now
Me too. Weird.
This version: Chicago Symphony Orchestra feat. conductor: Sir Georg Solti
>>64263592
>>64263693
I wish I had a fire truck so i could drive far away from cyber bullies like you.
I like this guy
>>64263830
I like him too
>>64263830
I've heard a great recording of the piano concerto with Bernstein as conducter and pianist.
>>64263592
Looking over this thread it seems Stokowski's rendition of Mahler's 2nd is the preferred recording. Is that right?
Reviews make it seem like it's low quality, with a noisy audience.
>>64264160
it's a lovely rendition, very dramatic with some pretty intriguing rubato and good soloists/chorus.
however it's also a mono broadcast and you get the usual blips that you do with most live recordings--coughing and so on. it's fairly easy to ignore in my opinion, but i'm used to listening to crappy live recordings.
he also made a studio recording in very good stereo sound. the general concept is similar; typical Stokowski, but it's a little less successful than the live one on BBC Legends. still very good though. it's on a two-fer with an excellent Brahms 4 (and the fastest):
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1779086
my favorite stereo recording is probably Kegel's though. not only does the orchestra deliver excellently but it has the best damn chorus in this work i've ever heard. the Leipzig choir in those years was top-tier.
>>64264362
Thanks for the info. I'm trying to find the Kegel recording but it's not on slsk. I already grabbed the Stokowski BBS recording and it does sound good, but I feel like it's missing a lot from the recording.
>>64264526
>but I feel like it's missing a lot from the recording.
yeah, well, it's a mono broadcast. not much you can do.
if you'd like i can upload the Kegel. is v0 okay with you?
>>64264572
V0 is great. I would really appreciate that.
>>64264594
alright, give me a bit. it'll probably be around a half-hour because my internet is horrible.
Post your favorite melodies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSpKZLZlwBU
I also really like Schumann's quotation of it in the coda of the 1st mov. of his Fantasie in C major:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQYOHvFu_0M
>>64264594
>>64264876
https://mega.nz/#!3JtFiSDL!jEbFKhf29ceDG4_tCTqLjc2ZxNAyJBqbbizI5ae2Q0k
any other bombastic piece like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm8kpZoX32k
Any similar song like this?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=giuseppe+verdi+dies+irae+
Or like Carmina Burara
How long would it take a timpanist to tune from C-G to Eb-Bb?
>>64265998
rite of spring?
>>64265998
Listen to Masses from Mozart, Schubert, Beethoven
>>64265681
>https://mega.nz/#!3JtFiSDL!jEbFKhf29ceDG4_tCTqLjc2ZxNAyJBqbbizI5ae2Q0k
Thanks
Does anybody like Strauss's Alpine Symphony?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDZoPWgp_Bw
>>64267654
I prefer Ein Heldenleben but, yeah, it's good.
>>64255924
Put your trip back on poly
Anyone in here rates André Jolivet?
>>64260433
>Mozart is trash music for plebs
Shoo shoo Poly.
Actually i don't enjoy too much Mozart myself. Yes he has works which are really beautiful, but others which i sometimes listen on classical radio...humpf, they're just so boring, so bland.
>>64262014
This is my favorite, the Cleveland quartet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7ti-mHpbYQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muCGueV3fbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azw4NZ_PEUk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGbRuQFRoQY
>>64264063
Best is Michelangeli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRx64jx-Nyk&list=PLG4nHnXPEVUfv3pIKVGJtFLOgUVsfqCcH
>>64270315
I wouldn't put much stock in classical radio selections...they mostly stick to the pleb repertoire cause most of them are already on the ropes.
Your favourite English suite?
2 and 3 start really strong, 5 is pretty solid
but honestly if you say anything other than 6 you're just kidding
>that prelude bursting to life with all those scale runs
>those two ridiculously aesthetic gavottes
the slow sections are also more interesting in the 6th IMO
>>64271419
Prefer the Partitas myself desu senpai
>>64267654
>tfw I listened to this the last time I went skiing
Truly one of the most immersive classical experiences I've ever had
>>64270809
i'm not talking about some bullshit internet radio. I'm talking about a nationwide radio, which really has an impressive catalogue of music. They go for everything, not just just the usual overplayed stuff. I have listened some of the most bizarre contemporary stuff from them, i have listen to pretty much unknown composers like Edvard Mirzoyan, and so many other stuff which unfortanely i couldn't write down their names in time.
What're your favorite BBC Legend reocrdings?
>>64269362
Not me sonny, I realize the best Mahler conductor is Mahler himself.
>>64270241
I like Mozart though.
>>64271419
His suites really are based. Check out the french suites if you haven't already. Hewitt did a nice recording of them
I just recorded this on a korg krome 61 - thoughts? criticisms?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s14jY2G2hhAl
>>64274727
I like it. It sounds very nice!
