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/prod/ MIDI MONO EDITION

>Production Resources:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles, tutorials and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com
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>>64243707
where is everyone?
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Should I sell my midi controller and go for hardware synths? I feel soft synths won't get the job done for the genre I am going into (Industrial/Emo Rock).
I am currently looking at the Arturia Microbrute and Alesis Micron, or anything that is available to me since I am Canadian. DX7 and its variations are also possible any might be fun with a distortion going through it.
Unless it's a dead give away I'm pretty to music production.
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>>64244112
Dead.
This general is slow.
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>>64244289
> I feel soft synths won't get the job done for the genre I am going into
yeah you do sound new to music production
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>>64244289
You absolutely do not need hardware synths.
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>>64244494
>>64244460
Besides the wiki, what soft synths do you recommend?
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>>64244289
If you're new to music production then softsynths will probably be fine until you figure out exactly what you want/expect from hardware synths. The Microbrute is a pretty good monosynth but until you know what an LFO does, what PWM is and how to use a synth to generate sounds you may struggle to get the sound out of your head and into the synth. And remember it's a monophonic synth so you can't play chords on it and there's no patch memory , the sound you get is determined by how you set all the knobs and sliders.
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>>64244289
>>64244460
>>64244494
Hardware synths aren't necessary but they can be a lot more fun than plugins and it's a lot easier to manipulate multiple parameters

Having said that I wouldn't recommend the Alesis Micron, you have a few buttons and one knob to control everything so there's a lot of menu diving involved. Plus it's not analogue in any capacity so you're not necessarily getting any kind of improvement in terms of sound compared to soft synths
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https://clyp.it/six5hmsr

Just a random spur of the moment sort of clip I made, it's still in super raw state but I kinda like this Gameboy type direction this is going in.
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>>64243707
>MIDI MONO EDITION

cool, I get to post my modular again
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https://clyp.it/oulrdgzh

This is my first time doing anything with tracking guitars/bass. Heavy amounts of Guitar Rig 5 in use.

Tear me to fucking shreads. What could be better? The drums aren't final.
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>>64245261
Why the three Synth Box modules? You doing polyphonic stuff with your modular? Also, what do you think of Pittsburgh Modular's filter?
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>>64245261
tasty

post something you've made with it pls
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>>64245359
it's all on my soundclod, I don't have a slyp.it account and I don't like posting soundclod links in /prod/ in case everyone gets the idea to spam their soundclods here
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>>64245406
you don't need an account on clyp.it tho
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>>64245432
I just noticed that, here's an experiment with Pressure Points/Brains and a voltage quanizer

https://clyp.it/1o4q4dgp
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>>64245261
What do modulars have to do with stale /prod/ memes?
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>>64245406
>soundclod
why do you keep writing it that way?
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>>64245551
just remembered these have a ground loop buzz, the Arturia Beatstep needed a separate PSU when I recorded them

https://clyp.it/bmuqgmuu

A lot of music from modulars is really self-indulgent, it's way more fun to use one than it is for other people to listen to the experimental shit you invariably make on one.
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>>64245551
noice especially nearer the end
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>>64245781
that sounds dope af
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>>64245732
sorry, picked that habit up from someone, I guess because 99% of stuff on there is a clod of shit
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i know dubstep remixes of pop songs is old as fuck but i just wanted to test my chops as i haven't made a dubstep track in like 3 years back when i had no idea what i was doing

https://clyp.it/f232wtmz

this is total balls right now where can i go from here? how do i expand a drop without it getting monotonous?

also how do i mix dubstep?

i know i can look up popular dubstep songs and figure it out but does anyone have some concrete advice?
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>>64245321
anyone?
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>>64246256
what the fuck are those vocals? They need way more treble and to be a lot louder

The synth you have playing the minor chord sounds like the default massive patch which is pretty horrible

aside from that the dubsteppy bit sounds pretty good
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>>64246498

Love (really do) the rhythm guitar part - the louder Johnny Thunders one - it's got a cool gnarly crunch to it, it needs a clearly defined bass part which will pull the sound together with the drums more and will give you a better idea where to go with them.
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does anyone here mix with headphones? i know monitors are best, but i don't really have the money/resources to make a room sound good.

i'm looking for some headphones that don't color the sound, top end is $200ish, i could go higher if i must though. i'm looking for like $150, give or take. i'm looking for headphones to mix on.
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Really dumb question cause it seems so simple but how does one get these german house sounding synths

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIHRIFpDXB4
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any man still use reason? use to fuck around with 5 a lot but switched to ableton because no vsts and adding audio tracks was fucking clunky as. can't pirate the new one so cant exactly try it out
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>>64247210
akg k240 mate
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lol does anyone else get headaches from making music
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>>64247746
slouch less
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>>64247773
i have scoliosis although typically i don't get headaches often
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I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing
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>>64247659
thanks m8. i'm definitely looking into AKG's now.
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>>64247800
been doing this fror 3 years and neither do i

https://clyp.it/sojqijqk
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w2c serum for "free"
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>>64247883
>>64247800
(7 technically) 2 years and neither do I

https://clyp.it/lxu4oga1
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>>64247883
I'm just blundering my way to making chillhop
I don't really know music theory so obviously there might be something glaring I'm missing, but that sounds really good Anon.

>>64247926
This as well
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So I'm really good at Reason but I'm moving into film scoring and I was looking at Logic, Digital Performer and Cubase. Which one is the most like Reason and gives me the most options? Which do you recommend?

I'd have to dual-boot for Logic but that's not really a problem
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>>64247572
>http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
take a saw wave. add a higher octave saw wave. unison detune it, then spread it from mono to complete l/r stereo. add a little reverb (almost unnoticable, just for some space in the higher freqs)
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>>64247995
this is of course, assuming your using ableton's "analogue" synthesizer. but you can probly do it with any kind if you know where to find the unison and spread knobs
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>>64248040
I'll do it in sylenth, ty, I havent tried anything yet but I thought one of you would know cause it's simple and I'm lazy.
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>>64247976
music theory is really good to learn, no matter how basic. learning a simple technique/concept could help you analyze songs easier and make sense of a lot of things.

being in the middle of the theory know-how sucks though. I know enough to make basic tonal or nontonal pieces but tfw you really just want to make crazy jazz fusion with crazy chords all over the place
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>>64246580
hey i appreciate the feedback

the vocal is an a capella i downloaded from youtube
some ariana grande shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVYTzauIb_4

theres a lot of high pitched noise in it

i made the changes
https://clyp.it/s1wf3l35
is this any better?
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>>64248886
i forgot to make the vocals louder
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whats midi mono
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>>64248886
the minor chord doesn't even sound that different
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I need some help.

https://youtu.be/JicFjFu8Ueo

What instrument is the one starting at 1:05 which sounds that is being processed with a wah (panned to the right)? How do I get that sound? I'm not entirely sure if it's a keyboard or a guitar or what is it.
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what did the postal service use for their percussion and/or synths
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>>64249472
>envelope generators
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>>64248081
I feel you. The biggest issue from me, and I imagine once I start getting on it'll be easier, is I have no clue what I actually want to do. I have a general idea of mellowed tracks, like Joji/FilthyFrank made in his Vlogs before deleting them and Nujabes/DJ Krush type shit, but no clue as to what it should actually sound like.
Finding samples is proving strangely difficult as well.

I'm sure I'll get there, though
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https://clyp.it/1tpqprhi
feedback ples
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ive only ever made hip hop before. what am i doing https://clyp.it/0szm0gbk
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>>64246256
Is it really a "remix" if its just some vocals followed by an unrelated instrumental?
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>>64250373
well i meant that point it was im not sure what your definition of a remix is but im mixing some vocals into the drop rn
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tell if my stuff is good or bad and maybe why

>https://clyp.it/mevuhvje
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>>64249995
what could somebody possibly give as feedback to this
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>>64252390
idk production tips
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>>64244289
if youre serious about it then invest in it. if your a casual then stick with softsynths. arturia is shit and so is the micron. for industrial starter boi i would get korg ms2000 and a sampler.
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>>64246256
bring out the vocals, a lot of mid-high end for a dubstep song/any song, use compression, edit your samples at least a little bit, the synths become annoying because there isn't a lot of solid mixing(you're probably just out of practice). Cool drop bro.
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why do 808 wav files never have notes?

Are they actual notes?
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>>64252452
K. If you want to commit to making art music then you have to ditch the pulse. If you aren't trying to make art music then make a recognizable pulse. The drum intro is boring even though it's a complex pattern, put in chords or a melody or a sample of martin luther king saying "i have dreams that keep me up at night" or something. Expand that "break" part from 20-30, it sounds filtered which is cool if you flesh it out after the second drums. You could make a cool bass line to go along with that bit. Overall I recommend commiting to a genre and going from there.
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>>64252533
Because they are wav files. Usually the frequency of a kick is spread so much that it isn't really considered a note. Not 100% sure about 808's but probably. Look at it through a visual EQ and see what frequency range its taking up, then lookup what frequency the note that occupies that range is
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>>64252533
i want desperately to help you but i dont understand. is it that you are confusing midi files with wav files? is it that you dont understand drum tuning?
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>>64252565
thanks friend
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what's a good midi keyboard with at least 49 keys, some knobs, and some very nice pads that won't bankrupt me?
>>64245261
is quadraverb any gud?
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>>64252565
define pulse pls
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>>64249173
A meme that people should stop trying to revive
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It sounds kind of jumbled and out of time and I dont't really know why! Please help!
Also was thinking about steel drums what do you guys think?

https://clyp.it/0omkihmk
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>>64254009
OP here, listing back that sounds fucking shit
Thanks the amph for you
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>>64252649
>is it that you dont understand drum tuning?

probably
but I just edit things until they sound good
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>>64254445
You can get tuning plugins. I believe M tuner works well. You play a sound and it shows what note is being played.
Also if you use Fl studio you can use edison to found out roughly what tone something is.
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Anyone know what type of synth the Novation Bass Station is? As in is it FM, Additive etc..
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>>64255080
subtractive synth
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>>64256161
>https://clyp.it/rat3wmyv
this is so awful, and on top of everything you're polish, please stop making our country look bad, can't even meme out of that. D i s a s t e r.
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>>64256272
... it's the burping right?
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>https://clyp.it/1lnewewb

who here wish it was still 2007

also which 8 bars do you like better, the first or the second, i'm on the fence
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>>64256359
I like the first 8 bars more senpai
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Who /bitwig/ here?

https://clyp.it/cmepf4fj
https://clyp.it/fxrpac2a
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>>64257343
>https://clyp.it/fxrpac2a
generic charts-core/10

>https://clyp.it/cmepf4fj
bretty chill m8
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i request tutorial videos/pdf on mixing kick + bass (808's here) in order to make the whole song and espacially the drop as loud as possible
what are the tricks ?

what am i missing ?


https://clyp.it/bekfz1xh
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>>64258318
I think you should lower the 808's volume just a bit, and compress it more aggressively.
Lower it to the point where the kick's sub punches a bit more and cuts through the 808.
Or you can EQ it, here's a good video about mixing sub: https://youtu.be/hRxZ_nldKKM

Looking at the waveform, you've got lots of pointy peaks. Compression gets rid of that.
You should be able to bring the entire track up more afterwards.

Once compressed, you should add a limiter to the master to bring everything up.
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>>64252779
>is quadraverb any gud?

Not really, it's just there because I was going to give it to my brother. Everything goes into a Focusrite Octopre/Pro24 with a Lexicon MX-something connected by SPDIF now, way better than the crappy old Quadraverb.
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https://clyp.it/mmuuol35
are the vocals too loud on the build up?
also any tips for the mixing/mastering?
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How am i doing /prod/

https://clyp.it/dgps3unf
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WHERE CAN I FIND A IZOTOPE OZONE DOWNLOAD!!?!?! :(

help
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>>64261587
For a dubstep track, everything is too quiet.
Go for more aggressive compressing on all your bass sounds.
Compress vocals, compress that piano sound.
Look at the waveform, the drums make up most of the peaks while everything else is half that size.
Compress to the point where it's one fat sausage, like dubstep should be.

For the intro, it's kinda boring to hear just verbed vocals and a piano.
Add some more movement or rhythm using a quiet bass pad or even a repeating vocal loop. Maybe hats.

Do some harder limiting on the master.

For the supersaw stabs in the drop, you should add an accompanying saw bass to make it thicker.

I also think you don't have enough going on in the low-mid range.
Feels like mostly the super loud drums and the super loud high pitched screeches.

You should add hats and cymbals to the drop.
Dubstep being a two-step tempo genre, you're gonna have to keep the tempo moving with those hats.
Use rides on each beat too.

Not feeling the sub at all.
Compress that so it's just shy of the loudness of the kick.

Example of what your waveform should look like: https://clyp.it/qrdy5jct

>>64262851
https://kat cr/usearch/izotope%20ozone%206/
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>>64260091
thx :D


now it sounds like that: https://clyp.it/0p1mgom4
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>>64263653
Definitely much better.

I would suggest doing a slight cut on that resonating ~100Hz on the 808.
Since the release is so long, it really overwhelms the track.

Keep it up.
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>>64263621
wow thanks a lot anon, this is great advice! i'll get right on all that
making the wobble basses louder will take care of the low/mid range emptiness, yeah?
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>>64263781
Sure, you could do that.
If I were you though, I'd just flat out replace some of the sounds you have in the drop that don't have much bass presence.
EQ'ing the wobbles should do the trick, but it's not gonna save all your bass sounds.
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>>64244112
people quit coming here because this place never was good
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anyone here own one?

my stuff has a heavy focus on textures and processing rapid fire sampling, so this seems pretty perfect

was curious how people work with it and experiences and stuff
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>>64250053
https://clyp.it/gzlfkha1 heres a better recording
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what's a good control surface? i was thinking something with motorized faders since i like to control mic levels in sample libraries. are there any which are cheap but aren't behringer quality?

also are these JBLs any good?
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Anyone good at piano here?

Is it reccomended when learning a song to learn each the right hand and left hand parts individually before putting them together?
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>>64264442
you should learn them both at the same time otherwise you'll constantly struggle doing harmonies.
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>>64264442
practice at a slower tempo until you can get it down and then work on playing at full speed
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>>64264544
>>64264615
so both hands at same time just start at low tempo?
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>>64264442
Do both slowly at the same time. Don't even care about meter at first, just make sure that you KNOW which note to play before you play it (no guessing).
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>>64263963
not really good for heavy sample editing as it only has 4 pads, that arent velocity sensitive. other than this ive really enjoyed it and it can make some amazing fx/loops even with only the 4 pads. just have to know how to re-layer which can be a bitch. the touch control is incredible though when it comes to personalizing fx
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>>64264735
thanks my friend
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>>64264427
>something with motorized faders
avid artist series is basically the only thing on the market / really outdated (looking at you, mcu) atm that's not complete crap and halfways affordable
>also are these JBLs any good?
if they're in perfect condition or you know how to service them. the main problem will be your room size / listening distance which better be huge with these things
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>>64265169
>basically the only thing on the market and not really outdated*
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>>64245781
thats sounds really good, where did the drums come from?
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>>64247210
literally apple earbuds
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Luckily you can always reroute back to stereo, with the paul butterfield, mono to midi to stereo to medium to eleven, boksfet. Where would we all be without paul, sorry, brian.
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>>64265169
thanks this looks pretty good. what's a good rotary controller for stuff like EQ and dynamics? i was thinking of a fader that has 3 knobs above it would be nice, for low mid high you know, but i guess this + a knob rack above it would work yeah? this is mostly for orchestra production.
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>>64265942
you can map on the rotary encoders what ever you want with the push of a button
I don't think having a separate encoder controller just for some plugin control is really useful, the idea of not using the mouse anymore is neat but only in theory. I have never seen anyone doing that consequently enough even on big S5 surfaces and similar - plugin UIs are just too different and annoying to decipher on some rotary encoders and small displays - mouseover and mousewheel is comfy
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>>64264442
I disagree with the previous posters. You should practice each hand individually at a decent tempo and then work on slowly putting them together. It's important to work on hand positioning. You should roughly know when and where to keep your hands and which finger will play which note.
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how to into making synths on pc
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>>64244494
You're right. There's no reason as to why my uni bought one of these for £30k
>>64247992
Cubase can be good but it's a fucking hassle in my experience. I'm still using logic 9 purely because I don't like the layout of X. However I do a lot of foley/sound design. As soon as I set up a keystroke for forward and backward shifting of individual video frames I was set.

Personally for musical scoring to visuals I would also go with logic. Has the most related tools
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>>64266870
do you mean how do you code synths for pc or program patches on an existing synthesizer?
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>>64265597
>/mu/ """""""""""""producers"""""""""""""""
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>>64263839
https://clyp.it/50vequvx
how do i do this right?
it sounds so squished and awful
i'm using the default ableton compressor should i not be doing that?
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>>64267837
or is it just mixed terribly and i shouldn't be blaming software?
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>>64264442
>>64264544
>>64264615
>>64264654
Plz don't talk about things you have no idea about. Practice hands seperately first, then hands together. Hands seperately makes sure you don't ingrain the mistakes of one hand into the other and also gives you a surplus, but the not ingraining bad habits is important.
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>>64264735
Literally the absolute worst thing you can do as you teach your hands to make mistakes.
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>>64268227
>>64268258
I'm not that anon but another beginner at piano. Is the metronome absolutely necessary? I don't like to use it because the sound distracts me. I have a pretty good grasp of rhythm
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>>64268330
Depends on what you play the piano for but generally yes, you should use the metronome. If it's distracting, practice being not distracted by playing very simply things in time and increasing as you master stuff.

How sure are you that you have an internal sense of time? Have you recorded yourself and checked?

Practice with metronome before you go all rubato btw. Master the rules to break them.
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Could y'all critique this mix i just finished up? I was referencing Autoerotique - LYAOF throughout the mix but my mix still doesn't have the bounce the reference has, I'd be grateful for any pointers to add some dynamics.

https://clyp.it/ivoxybrl


>>64267837
You've got way too much high end coming through, which is why it sounds so squished. Try cutting out the highs on your mix bus with a shelf, and A/B test it with a similar-sounding dubstep track to get an idea of where your mix is off track.
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>>64268227
you literally dont know what youre talking about
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>>64268757
http://www.pianofundamentals.com/

Have fun
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>>64268757
>>64264442
>>64264544
>>64264615
>>64264654
http://www.pianofundamentals.com/book/en/1.II.7
http://www.pianofundamentals.com/book/en/1.II.16
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>>64266884
Post bongos in uncompressed 96k .wav
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>>64268656
thanks anon
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>>64267837
>>64268656
>>64270480
like the other anon said there's way, way too much high end, what are you using in terms of speakers/headphones?
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I can't even enjoy music anymore I just feel jealousy
Tell me I'm not the only one pls
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>>64270850
>i just feel jealousy

yup, same. it's this feeling of "fuck i want to be as good as that guy" which leads to "i want to make what that guy's made" to (possibly) "i want to be a pro musician/producer like that guy"

a lot of hard work goes into it. it's a love thing, i think i found a medium because although i feel jealousy from ppl who are better than me, it drives me to get better. this will probably fade and will probably come back after that though
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>>64270850
>>64270960
yeahhhh

not jealousy so much as sadness that I'm pretty certain I could never make a piece of music as good as what I'm listening to
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Pump tbf
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https://clyp.it/zovmehgp
does this sound like a competent piece of music?
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https://clyp.it/0au4cvco
Did I do something good or is it shit?
>be real with me
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>>64264040
idk what you're doing...its at least oddly interesting

>>64272391
the first half does, the second half seems like you ran out of ideas. I'd add reverb and an orchestra
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>>64272400
tbqh senpai the synths sound really out of place. 00:30 - 1:50 sounds really good, but there is too much of a shift of tones between the first 2 sections, and the 3rd part where both of the previous section play at the same time sort of just ruins everything because of the synths sound out of place. If I were you i'd scrap the first and 3rd part, and focus on enhancing the feelings of the middle part, while keeping it consistent throughout the whole track.
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>>64272531
where do you mean "second half"? I'm just worried about the music itself, it can only be on the piano because this is an assignment for one my MT class.
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>>64252367
i like this quite a bit! Love the chorus' bass. However, I think you need to cut it down a bit or add some movement in the inner section. It gets kind of stale

>>64272619
at around 1:00, it kind of feels like your stretching to find another chord progression to transition to.
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>>64272572
I was definitely trying something different with having a synth just abruptly enter so I didnt expect it to pan out too well haha. I'll try nixing that part and replacing it with a more energetic guitar riff or something along those lines.

Thanks for the fb!
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>>64272391
Damn not really
The melody goes nowhere, the chords don't follow and I really don't like the repeating notes
Just an opinion, wish I could help you more
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/prod/, any idea what effect was used in this song around 3:36?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtNcgrVyc60

For comparison, there is a "normal" version of the same chorus around 4:28.

I find this effect really comfy and warm, and I want everything to sound like that forever. Any help would be very appreciated!
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>>64273265
Cut all higj and low frequencies
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>>64273262
what do you mean the chords don't follow?
by repeating notes I assume you mean the arpeggios?
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>>64273265
maybe I'm completely wrong but that just sounds like a bandpass filter + a bit crusher ... maybe with a tad more reverb than before
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>>64273351
I think that these transitions to major chords are kind of forced, also the rhythmical themes on the melody change too awkwardly and are not very good.
On a second listen tho it's not that bad, probably the shitty midi is perjudicating my perception. And sorry if I don't get my point across, I'm no expert.
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>>64273557
Yeah, it was 3 separate phrases and I just sort of Frankenstein'd them to together because it was the only way I could get a somewhat coherent piece. I'm still trying to make a fucking competent melody. all my shit sounds like random notes, so this is way better by my standard.
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>>64273327
>>64273371
Figured about the EQing, but the bitcrusher might be the final touch I couldn't put my finger on. I'm gonna experiment a bit, thanks!
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>>64268656
You're overusing the white noise down sweep.
Try replacing some of them with short cymbal crashes.
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is making music harder than other kinds of art or am i just not educated?

like in visual art, you get shitty pixel art as the "literally anyone can do this" benchmark, in writing any idiot can do text-speak, but with music i can't think of that kind of thing.

the production tools also seem harder unless you have a physical instrument or mario paint. (and even then, composing a tune in mario paint is less intuitive than clicking down pixels or bashing keypads.)

i'm at the stage where my aspiration is to be mediocre, but even musical mediocrity seems out of reach.
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>>64274310
I think it absolutely is one of the most challenging art forms out there. Full-length movie production might be the only harder thing I can think of.

Once you're experienced enough (years and years), I think it's pretty "easy" to make mediocre tracks. But even with a ton of experience, it is still very hard to make something genuinely good.

I suspect in the distant-ish future, it may become a little easier once there are somewhat more natural ways of composing via software. I'm not quite sure what, but maybe involving VR or something. Something where you can actually perform and then record a complex electronic track with just finger and body movements rather than endless DAW point and clicking.

(Though mixing/mastering will still probably be an elusive and difficult skill for centuries.)

IMO, devices like these are a first step into what could be an "easier" future method of production: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS7K1QHnB00

Though you still have to be decent at music theory and actually playing a keyboard.
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>>64263621
>Compress to the point where it's one fat sausage, like dubstep should be.
Older dubstep still had somewhat acceptable dynamic range. It should only really look like a sausage in areas where the sub is playing.
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>>64275007
>Older dubstep
That's practically a totally separate genre at this point.
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r8/h8 im so bad at finishing songs i always end up with shit like this and dont know where to take it. https://clyp.it/l5dxoyd2
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https://clyp.it/hyvgts2c

how is this sounding?
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Question, should you bounce your arrangements before or after your plugins.

Like should I apply an EQ and a compressor before I bounce or after? Same with filters and reverbs, etc.

Thanks in advance
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bymp
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>>64277725
Not sure I understand the question. Do you have like VST instruments and stuff that you bounce to audio and then mix and then bounce _again_ for some reason?
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>>64277725
Depends.
I bounce after "sculpting" FX and before "mixing" FX.

"Sculpting" meaning the FX that change the character of the sound itself.
These include EQs that completely change the timbre.
Distortion, bitcrush, phaser, etc.

"Mixing" meaning the FX that make it fit into the mix.
These include the more subtle EQs which give space for each element in the mix.
I also consider reverb and compression as one of these effects.

I bounce after "sculpting" FX because I know I'm not gonna make any more drastic changes.
I bounce before "mixing" FX because I know I'm gonna be adjusting it as the track progresses.
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>>64265457
Toontracks EZDrummer, I use it for pretty much all standard kit sounds

this one
>>64245551
was probably Battery 4
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