>"metal is the new classical"
>"metal is composed in a very similar way to classical"
>mfw someone said this to me unironically today
I wish I was joking.
>"metal is the new classical"
>"metal is co>"metal is the new classical"
>"metal is composed in a very similar way to classic
>mfw someone s.mposed in a very similar way to>"metal is the new classical"
>"metal is composed in a very similar way to classical"
I wish I was jog. classical"
Someone said that to me as well. He then put on some retarded death metal to prove the point. What a crock of shit. It's amazing how stupid metal babbies are
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>>64236414
t. j pop manchild
>>64236458
>"manchild"
>on a site for manchildren
Some sub-genres actually are heavily influenced by classical composition and others make use of symphonic instrumentation for sure, but no, you can't say that of all metal.
>>64236458
Sorry for triggering you metal child. Sorry your parents don't appreciate your "brutal blast beats and rhythm sections". Don't shoot up a school pls
>>64236307
Some of it maybe, but not the majority.
>>64236307
I generally don't enjoy metal or classical. But the statement is kind of true, actually.
>>64236851
Explain
>>64236892
See the iron maiden
>>64236851
oh sure buddy there are many counterpoints in metal, and sure a lot of fugas
>>64236573
none of metal is similar to classical.
the heavy metal genre characteristics are way too different from classical that its not possible
influenced by, sure, but not similar
>it's a meme thread
meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8v4xFvATy0
>>64237726
>japanese post-rock with pianos somehow is supposed to prove metal is the new classical
>>64236307
>implying he wasn't right
take this elitist scum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXOucG8rM5k
>>64238000
>a harpischord playing pop melody and chords with metal in it is suppose to be the new classical
top kke
>>64236307
Metal is actually good as long as no death growls are involved.
Black metal, death metal, etc.. All those generes are pure shit
>>64238000
Yet another terrible band on Nuclear Blast that end up sounding like jumped up fucking videogame music.
Fucking disgusting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDvd4LxSz4I
Epic grandeur doesn't come from gimmickry and synthesizers
>>64237726
This is actually pretty good senpai, have anything else?
>>64238287
yes, have a neat japanese neo-classical metal band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZIHuHuZgMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlb79M_2FjY
most music is influenced by traditional western theory
>>64238458
western popular music, sure its influenced by it, but not similar
>>64238396
Speaking of gook neo-classical metal, this bit at 8:05 is literally pure Tchaikovsky worship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo10HFEfRo4
>>64238000
garbage
>>64236307
>>""metal is the new classical""
>>""metal is composed in a very similar way to classical""
>>"mfw someone said this to me unironically today"
>"I wish I was joking."
>mfw some dumb animeposter unironically posted this today
>>64239898
>goes on 4chan
>doesn't like anime
kys desu senpai
>>64236307
Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden/Laughing stock
are the only pop albums that not only match but far surpass classical music
>>64239898
Why are these kind of people on 4chan? Go to some normie music board ffs
>>64236307
This is only true of some progressive music
Metal is nerd music now.... when did it stop being the weapon of choice for bluecollar workers frustrated and emasculated by the hum-drum of industrialisation.
probably when we got rid of our manufacturing industries.
I wonder if chinamen working 20 hr shifts in steel factories listen to metalica
![stevealbini1.l[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FfLHkWO.jpg "stevealbini1.l[1].jpg")
everyone knows jazz is the new classical music
>>64239898
Fuck off reddit
>>64240503
>normie
Fuck off to reddit too.
>>64241130
Jazz is better tbqh
whoever says metal is similar to classical music is retarded
you could make a case for metal being similar to jazz in a lot of ways though.
>>64241318
How the fuck
most metal songs stay in the same key and there's no improvisation
>>64241318
eat me
>>64240473
>those albums
>surpassing classical at all
lmao
>>64241477
I'm largely talking about the technical side of metal, the pioneers of tech-death in the 90s were very jazz influenced and those bands' influence really shows in the rest of said subgenre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utqWrkVEQvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Cro2yxRjw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEo8IrU5MQk
Also a load of miscellaneous stuff on the progressive, experimental and avant-garde side of metal are influenced by jazz music.
![a1603803846_2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/acFdha3.jpg "a1603803846_2[1].jpg")
Although I agree the person OP was talking to was an idiot, there is very occasionally real classical influence if you listen for it. Here is the one piece I know of that employs obvious and extensive thematic development
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnnkRREO7zg&ab_channel=Facundoviscarra
>>64241614
following that logic you could say metal is similar to rap thanks to nu metal.
there's like a million metal subgenres
>>64240418
>>64240503
>>64241142
easy b8
I hand picked this to leverage a point am i winning? Can i not like both and/ or notice similarities between the two?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITxcCylxLSY
>>64241756
You're logic is flawed and makes no sense though. Metal isn't similar to rap.
Technical death metal shares many similarities with a lot of jazz music however considering some of the most influential bands that built technical death metal were jazz-fusion. Newer waves of bands in the subgenre take after the previous influential wave. Technical death metal is rooted in jazz wankery.
>>64241756
to be fair those tech-death and prog/avant/experimental metal bands influence doesn't solely encompass their respective subgenres
nearly everything in metal today that's heavily technical is either influenced by jazz wankery or neo-classical wankery.
>>64241849
Ok. Tdm is similar to jazz, but *metal in general* isn't. That was the point.
>>64236307
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>>64236414
What the fuck is with all the animu shitposting recently? Are we getting raided?
>>64238000
Kek Fleshgod Apocalypse sucks
Worst produsction ever
>>64240418
>>64240503
>>64241142
>retarded weeaboo shitposts on music board
>gets called out
>b-b-ut muh jewt said this is albanian puppetry forum 10 years ago! (and more revisionist bs)
Top kek, an hero yourselves
I like prog rock
>>64241927
they're just fucking cartoon images calm down
>>64241927
but this is 4chan...CHAAAN geddit? as in Chinese cartoons?
>>64241839
>Dissection
>>64241912
Not just tech-death in general. Those bands despite influencing tech-death also had a lasting impact on almost anything progressive in the genre.
Have some more metal with obvious jazz influences.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGkpIQZZN_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5SWc_k_Hmk
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>>64236414
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>>64241318
You can say these retards never actually listened to metal
>>64241318
>what is neoclassical metal
I just can't stand that generic shredding thrash, the dramatism and the cheesy lyrics
give me some metal to listen to
>>64242171
Is there any progressive metal that's more about the music and less about noodling?
>>64242331
Deafheaven is perfect band for hipsters like you
>>64242402
Leprous, Haken, new Circus Maximus, Threshold, Riverside, Caligula's Horse and Enslaved
>>64242402
Definitely, though progressive metal, like progressive rock is a giant umbrella term so it's hard to give you reccs in particular but have some decent relatively entry-level prog metal that's not noodling and wankery.
>more traditional prog metal rooted in metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa80CBbc-lg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpwJ43GLq7w
>prog metal that draws influence from all over the place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL6TMup64ik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIJ56d-8yPs
>>64242479
Y so aggressive, I was just trying to get into the genre
guess y'all metalheads are weirdos
>>64242606
metalheads are all freaks
