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kek of the year
Not black enough.
add them up and then subtract 6.4 and you get 7.4
conspiracy
>>64173974
but Sleep Cycle is far superior than Painting With
>>64173992
go cuck yourself loser
>>64174062
CHz>PW>Sleep Cycle
>>64174062
meh Sleep Cycle was pretty mediocre to be honest. My interest with Painting With was immediate. I listened to Sleep Cycles like 20 times and the only track that ever truly engaged me was Golden Chords.
>>64174098
idk man I definitely dig painting with but the only songs I return to are on delay and golden gals
Sleep cycle is beautiful what is wrong with you people
sleep cycle is just digital and cassette?
Damn, expected a better score
Pan of the century
AOTY my ass
Do you really think they're trustworthy?
Sleep Cycle > PW because AnCo is genuinely bad.
Deakin is good, the moments of brilliance from AnCo came from albums where Deakin was present.
The Pitchfork review brings up how AnCo's most successful album was MPP. If you measure success by sales then yea maybe, but its by far their best album. It calls Deakin the black sheep of the band, but for fucks sake the only time they're notable is when he happens to be around.
Its all about the deak.
Sleep cycle is better than PW.
If it ain't Black, it's Whack - Pitchfork 2016
He probably got docked points for cultural appropriation of superior PoC AfriCAN musicians.
>>64174185
I mean really
>>64174215
ya know you might joke but i honestly wouldn't be shocked at all if p4k did this
>>64174205
many of the brilliant moments came wher he was not involved at all. most of them, in fact.
keep sucking that deak...i bet you paid for deak's pathetic kickstarter
>>64174239
Yeezus is great imo. But i see what ur saying
>>64174239
Kanyefags will take this b8. But really, how the shit TLOP got a 9, I will never know.
>>64174215
Isn't Pitchfork owned by the same people as Buzzfeed and Huffington Post or is that some other website?
>>64174250
>most of them, in fact.
Nah bruv, he was incredibly instrumental to HCTI, Feels, and Strawberry Jam.
Try mellowing out for a change.
>>64174185
>Do you really think they're trustworthy?
Nope, PBVSGR should be a 10, Slasher Flicks should be a 9 and Sleep Cycle can stay where it is
Fuck Pitchfork am I right?
>>64174205
Uh, if MPP is their most successful album, that's funny you're saying Deak makes the best moments because he certainly wasn't present on that one. Or STGSTV. Or Danse if I remember correctly. Or Painting With. Or a lot of their other albums desu.
>>64174239
Seriously
>>64174276
nah they're owned by conde nast who own a bunch of irrelevant magazines and leddit so not really important
>>64174271
Yeah, I really liked TLOP, listen to it a lot. But by no means is it 9 material.
Painting with brings some of AnCo's most innovative, exciting material yet on the table
Sleep Cycle is the most overhyped piece of garbage we have seen all year.
>>64174298
yeah those should all be 5s at best
>>64174291
>PBVSGR
>10
>>64174276
>>64174300
They're all owned by the reptilians
>>64174326
I wouldn't say that Sleep Cycle is garbage, but you are essentially correct otherwise
>>64174300
>pitchfork is literally r e d d i t
>>64174343
shh goyim
keep it a secret
>>64174294
>Or a lot of their other albums desu.
He's on half of their albums.
>>64174330
lol, I would rate it higher but the scale stops at 10
oh, is that not the answer you wanted? i'm sorry haha
>>64174326
Fuck u it's art faggot
>>64174362
He's the least prominent member of the band was my point.
>>64174368
it is, but not as much as Painting With
not him btw
>>64174326
Painting With certainly does bring some really innovative ideas to the table. I guarantee you a year from now people are going to be liking it just like they did with CHz. CHz got a ton of hate at first, and now people are saying it's pretty good? Fucking hivemind.
>>64174351
>>64173974
FLORIDADADA was shit fuck you.
jesus christ sleep cycle is kicking my ass so fucking hard right now
its just digital and cassette?
>>64174328
When will people like this leave /mu/?
>>64174528
>jesus christ sleep cycle is kicking my ass so fucking hard right now
what the hell kind of person seriously says this about an album
PBVSGR: 7 (pretty good)
Slasher Flicks: 7.5 (very good)
Painting With: 8 (great) sorry lads but I enjoyed the shit out of it sans 2-3 songs
Sleep Cycle: 9 (fantastic)
>>64174246
Seriously though, when is the last time they gave anything a 9.5+ to an artist who wasn't black.
>>64174558
why would I not? Is it not euphoric enough?
>>64174606
your rating order is literally backwards haha
>>64174637
Nope.
>>64174326
Painting With l i t e r a l l y sounds like farts
I don't get how anyone can defend those synths
Scaruffi's gonna pan it for being too poppy btw
>>64174124
>golden gals
a true fan right here
>>64173992
this meme got old fast
>>64174492
>people who only listened to the singles
please leave.
>>64174690
I don't give a fuck what Scaruffi says, or Pitchfork, of Fantano. That's the problem with you faggots. You care too much what reviewers say and follow their opinions because you think it keeps you in the know and makes you relevant to any musical discussion when in fact you can't form your own fucking opinion because you can't think critically or objectively.
And no, those synths don't sound like "farts".
>>64173974
The only thing good about p4k is the albums they review. Their scores are not at all objective. They don't even try, it's really just pandering to hype
For me, Painting With is an album representing the ideas behind Cubism and Dadaism. It's a collage of sound splattered on canvas conveyed through geometric patterns of synth melodies surrounding the framework, that which is the vocals. A lot of the melodies in these songs may seem disjointed and really out of place but they all work very well together when you listen to the song as a whole. I feel like this is partly what they were trying to do with Centipede Hz. The objective of Centipede Hz was to have a main progression (the body) with tons of little melodies and rhythms working around it like hundreds of little legs. The effects such as delay and reverb and chorus all helped to achieve this idea, especially on Panda's kit.
To say Painting With is soulless seems a little strange to me. It may not relate to people on an absolute personal level, but I feel its more a commentary on society as a whole around the world. It isn't just a personal experience, it's one that we as the world are sharing. Songs like Floridada talk about human nature to not want to sit in one place for too long, wanting to explore and find meaning in different lands and areas. Searching for something more. Hocus Pocus talks about the longing for a magic that seems lost, or even might refer to the cultural change of view for marijuana in the states "legalize this prinicple", the principle of allowing one to maintain their happiness through their own means. Vertical seems to talk about stacking and stacking up a corporate ladder to appease those above you, or doing so in order to get where you need to go "my feet can't cross the parking lot, the parking lot is way too hot". (cont.)
>>64174805
>their scores are not at all objective
please direct me to some "objective" reviews
>>64174298
Fucking fight me you little bitch
>>64174814
Lying in the Grass seems to be a song about searching for a cure for something, one that already exists. "Not asahmed to say the instincts there, but a virtue to deny the truth" It's almost like they're referring to a cure existing for this sickness, either that or knowing it exists but not wanting to confront it. The Burglars has always seemed like a song about taxes to me. We grow up thinking of burglars as someone who comes in your house and physically steals your things, when in reality there are people every day working behind desks and doing paper work shuffling numbers around doing FAR more damage to the economy. "When I was young my parents yelled beware of the ivory man who would steal and sell" Ivory Man? Seems like it could be referring to someone from an Ivory Tower, someone of great importance or very high stature. Natural Selection is a song about not being a materialist, and not measuring your success by the things you have but by how rich your soul is, how many smiles you place on peoples faces. "You measure hits by stuff in the house, it's more sincerely smiles on the face". Bagels in Kiev to me is a very personal song, and not just a commentary on society, but perhaps it is. He makes a reference to not being there to witness the miracle of Moses parting the sea, but he also wasn't there to notice the amazing things his grandfather did for his community in Kiev with his bagels. But he's heard the stories, and he appreciates that fact and it's something he carries with him. Also, it seems like a song about everyone coming together over a nice warm bagel, even if they weren't getting along or if they were before. On Delay I haven't exactly figured out what the meaning behind it is, but to say it doesn't sound good is mind blowing to me. It's one of the better songs on the album. I could sit here and try and explain what I think it's about but I'm not entirely too sure so I won't. (cont.)
>>64174883
Carrie and Lowell is a great album but out of the 4 Its the one he tried the least on. Even he said so.
>It's not really trying to say anything new, or prove anything, or innovate. It feels artless, which is a good thing. This is not my art project; this is my life.
http://pitchfork.com/features/interview/9595-true-myth-a-conversation-with-sufjan-stevens/
That doesn't mean trying your hardest = good album. There is something really beautiful about what he did with the album but I find a lot of his lyrics to be just as personal, and frankly better spoken on his other albums and his instrumentals are.. well they're just different I guess so it comes down to personal preference there.
I'm really glad the album exists, and its great to see what Sufjan would be when he scales back. It turns out, even without all the fancy production and large scale arrangements, he's still one of the best at the type of music he's putting out. I just can't possibly see it a point higher than Illinois. But hey I also think The Age of Adz and Michigan are both better than Illinois so maybe I'm experiencing things a little differently.
>>64174918
Spilling Guts seems to be about breaking under the pressure of stress and wanting to lash out at the world, but doing so makes you, yourself, get in your own way. Take the hit or take the fall. You either roll with the punches or crumble under the weight. Summing the Wretch has some pretty cool polyrhythms and the little samples and wavering bells that surround the bassline and vocals are nice. The lyrics seem to indicate something about integrity, doing things for the betterment of yourself or others even though no ones looking or watching. However, the same can be said for when no one is watching, it's a hell of a lot easier to do the worst things you could do. Golden Gal is pretty clearly about showing respect for the girls in the world who have to put of with the strenuous expectations of our society. Giving a shout out to the mothers, sisters, daughters, girlfriends, grandmothers who have all held their head up through the troubles while supporting the men they do. Not allowing society to keep them down. "You think the girls would be so comfortable these days, but sexy genders bring some troubles to the fray". I feel like he's referring to the fact that "sexy genders" being the expectations society has of women, get in the way of a girl wanting to be her true self. It's a motivational tune. Recycling is a tough one for me, because it's probably the only song on the album I'm really not that big a fan of, but it's not horrible. I'm not entirely sure what the lyrics want to convey, but it seems like turning all of your negative cynicism into fuel you can use to move forward in society to better yourself.
But hey, these are just my opinions. And that's just from the songs ideological stand points. Musically, I think each of them stands on their own. The instrumentation is awesome in my opinion. I don't think it sounds at all soulless, it has a very nice bounce to it, it glows radiantly and it has a charged feeling. It may not have the dynamics (cont)
>>64175056
some of their other albums have, but that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't as good. While it may not have the dynamics, it still isn't a jolting push to the finish line that assaults your ears the entire time. It is very well paced, the cohesion is immense (I'd say the only thing that throws it off is Bagels in Kiev, kind of out of left field desu) but it's a great album in my opinion.
The first few times I listened to it, the artwork probably helped this imagery, but I could literally imagine all of these melodies and vocal arrangements and percussion as little geometric patterns falling into place on a canvas to make cubist artwork while the lyrics and more "disjointed" bits of production (samples/notation/effects) portrayed thoughts of dadaism. Collaging these sounds together is part of what I feel makes it such a hugely awesome album. It's an idea they've been playing with since Oddsac and Transverse Temporal Gyrus, but I feel this is the first time they completely and fully applied it to a piece of their pop work. And I think they did a great job with it. Each synth, texture, voice, sample, effect, is a brush touching to the canvas that is Painting With.
>>64174702
> implying Golden Gals isn't the best track on PW
>>64175655
>implying Golden Gal is anything but the worst track on PW
>>64174291
How do you feel about Down There?
Pan of a lifetime
>>64175833
depends on the month
sometimes there's a lot of blood sometimes it's just a lil bit
>>64175833
8.5/10
Pretty good album, had some slow moments though. Really love Ghost of Books. A lot. And Cemeteries. And Heads Hammock. And Heather in the Hospital. And Lucky 1. And Laughing Heiroglyphics. And Oliver Twist.
Three Umbrellas is okay.
>>64175872
On some days it's my favorite solo AnCo release. Glad to hear that someone else enjoys it though. I feel like it never gets mentioned.
>>64175833
I felt it raised my expectations too high at the beginning by starting off with Laughing Hieroglyphic.
Its still good. 7.5/10
>>64175933
Should I listen to Slasher Flicks more? I've only listened a handful of time. Nothing really stood out to me.
>>64174298
The tragedy is that Age of Adz is a 9.5. But also that Sufjan is higher rated than AC.
>>64175995
it's a fun alt-rock/psychedelic pop album. I really like the kind of 90s vibe it has going on, especially on Strange Colores.
>>64174408
I didn't like CHz the first listen but it grew on me every listen. I now realize it is tied with all the other albums for GOAT.
>>64175871
hahaha that took me a sec.
>>64175995
I never really liked it much until I made it my main album for Halloween. It's absolutely perfect for that.
>>64175697
That pic is incredible.
>>64174328
go fucking die you piece of shit
>>64175033
Age of Adz is my favorite Sufjan album but Carrie and Lowell is incredible in it's own right. Fourth of July is one of my favorite songs ever because it's so beautiful and relatable to me.
>>64176070
in what sense? let's do a head to head:
MPP vs. C&L: 9.6 defeats 9.3
Jam vs. Illinois: 9.3 defeats 9.2
Feels vs. Michigan: 9.0 defeats 8.5
Sung Tongs vs. Age of Adz: 8.9 defeats 8.4
plus, AC's got 8.9s for Spirit and the Fall Be Kind EP. not to mention panda bear's three BNMs, including person pitch, which was rated higher than all of sufjan's albums.
AC is clearly higher rated. in fact, they're probably the highest-rated contemporary artist outside of kanye west.
>P4k pans Sleep Cycle
>/mu/ doesnt like it anymore
Jesus fuck
>>64177237
Sufjan was rated higher than all of the AC albums and side projects in all the pictures ITT. P4k is clearly hiring molly popping youngsters. Other than that I don't know what the other albums have gotten.
>outside of Kanye West
fucking gross, really? They rate kanye over animal collective?
>>64177295
Hey I love it. I think it's pretty special. I couldn't give a fuck what pitchfork rates anything.
>>64173974
>7.6
>not an 8.2
if it was just a little bit longer....
>>64173974
>6.2
>this album doesn't edgy enough
Come on, it's at least a 7. 9 if you're patrician like I am.
>>64174175
I'm pretty sure CD and vinyl are planned for release.
>>64177394
awesome I hope so
shit seriously gets better every time I hear it and I started out blown away
>>64177413
This was my only source, so it might just be wishful thinking. I'll probably snag a digital copy from his Bandcamp and buy a physical release if it drops.
http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/04/album-review-deakin-sleep-cycle/
>>64177306
historically, yes. kanye has a 10, two 9.5s, a 9, an 8.7, an 8.5, and an 8.3. AC has a 9.6, a 9.3, a 9.0, three 8.9s, and an 8.7. so AC is actually more broadly higher-rated, but kanye has higher peaks. plus, TCD and 808s were ranked much higher on lists than their scores would have suggested.
>>64173974
>anco
>good
>>64174298
Yeah they should all be higher
>>64177295
this
>caring about p4k
>>64174608
desu i think it was mpp
>>64174326
They literally just a watered down the sonic aesthetic of water curses. Actually dried up would be the better descriptor. Hocketing isn't new either.
