Has rock music hit a creative dead end?
old rock music was p bad as well imo
>>64103249
Stop posting under my old tripcode faggot
And no OP, it has not. Indie rock has become mainstream however and it has caused the quality to go down.
Also proof this faggot is not me is right here
https://rateyourmusic.com/~Montie_Ray
I don't want this guy making me seem like a jackoff
>>64103231
Dance music has you mean.
>>64103269
who the fuck is this pretender??
No more so than any other genre.
/mu/ forgets that hip hop and electronic music have been around since the 1970s in some form, and have long since become just as stagnant as rock.
Most rap music today sounds VERY similar to what happened 10/20 years ago. Not to say that it isn't good, but it's not innovative. In the UK there's the new wave of Grime which is pretty great, but that's confined to one country and hasn't "broken" in the US yet. There was also industrial/noise hip hop, but there are literally about a dozen artists that have contributed to that subgenre, and the only one that people even care about is Death Grips unfortunately.
Electronic music (which, yes, is a proper term for the umbrella genre) is also incredibly rehashed. On the alternative/experimental side of things there are some cool things happening, but the mainstream is completely creatively dead. There is nothing creative or interesting about dance music today.
I'd compare the 2010s to the 1980s in this respect. Electropop/dance music/hip hop are at the forefront, but there are only a few classic songs/EPs/albums dropping, and most work released in all genres is instant gratification pop rather than progressive stuff.
Rock music has nowhere to go. Most of the good melodies have been used already. Neither the addition of other instruments nor studio trickery can bring life back to this dead genre.
>>64103269
Who the fuck is this faker?
>>64103635
ok this guy might actually be Montie
I've been unsure of myself recently
remember, any art that abandons its best qualities for the sake of change is not progressing, just changing.
this was said by some wize jazzman in the late 50s
>>64103532
>Most rap music today sounds VERY similar to what happened 10/20 years ago
ehhh...this isn't really true. I mean people always make the argument that "Death Grips didn't invent industrial hip-hop" which is TRUE but for one they have already progressed past hip-hop, The Powers That B was BARELY hip-hop and whatever it was, I've never heard anything else like it. And based on Hot Head and Interview 2016, Bottomless Pit seems like it will be pushing the genre even further which is great.
I mean people always say that Death Grips is influenced by Dalek, Techno Animal, B L A C K I E, etc., but are they really? To me all of those artists sound completely different and I think Death Grips has by far the best production and lyricism out of all of them (excluding Exmilitary and The Money Store which were more "pop"-oriented.
Then you've got albums like Travis Scott's Rodeo, or Young Thug's entire vocal style that I haven't heard anything like from previous decades. I mean yeah Young Thug is influenced by Lil Wayne, and trap music in general is influenced by the likes of Three Six Mafia, but I've never heard another album like Rodeo.
And with electronic music, the first artists that come to mind who are innovating now are Daniel Lopatin and Dean Blunt, for starters.
But with rock...I mean what do you have, Swans I guess? To Be Kind was a pretty unique album, combing noise rock and post-rock (I'm not sure if that had been done before). Kid A was probably the last truly unique rock album, but it still wore its influences on its sleeve--specifically IDM artists like Aphex Twin combined with krautrock artists like Faust and Can.
>>64103592
>studio trickery
sup Scaruffi
NEVER!
>>64103767
I thought you died
what non-rock form of modern music is doing any better?
>>64103941
metal
>>64103905
it's a public trip, i forgot the code though
>>64103742
>Kid A was probably the last truly unique rock album
Hahahahah, I just can't take all of the imbecility on this board
>>64105894
You gotta laugh.
>>64105894
okay, name one that came after then.
LOOOOOOOOOL
EPIC DISCUSSION IS EPIC
/mu/ IS SO INTELLECTUAL
ALL OF MY FUCKIN WIN XD
>>64103231
I AGREE!!! ANIME FOR LIFE THE REAL GENTLEMAN'S ART!!!
>>64104167
kek
>>64103231
No, unlike anime
>>64103532
Electronic music has been around since like the 40s, brokendo
>>64107099
S A V A G E
>>64107112
late 70's, but nice try brotendo
>>64107506
the first compositions with usage of electronic music was in the 20's and 30's, retard
All music has hit a dead end. There is no more room for new ideas. All we can do now is analyze how well a contemporary band uses an idea in comparison to how someone did beforehand.
>>64107534
you better have a source to back that up, bud
>>64107620
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_music#The_1920s_to_1930s
also even the fucking doctor who theme was electronic, and that came out in the early 60s
>>64103532
but death grips make unusual and interesting stuff, how is it unfortunate that people like them?
>>64103231
>>64107586
Modern metal is more creative than rest of rock music
>>64107112
20s.
>>64106977
Busted!
>>64107656
>no
metal for the most part hit a dead end in the mid 90s
with some exceptions.
>>64109526
lol tripniggas, dumber than momma's chitlens.
>>64103249
>>64103269
>>64103378
I'm confused... whos the real Montie?
>>64109851
Why... I'm Montie
>>64109977
>>64109906
this is way to confusing WHO is the REAL slim Montie?
>>64104167
metal is rock
Can the real Montie post his face with a timestamp to avoid confusion..
Le BESTman is right when he says this is the perfect time for a new Nirvana equivalent.
"Rock-and-roll can't evolve by definition. It is what it is, a couple of guitars banging over a 4/4 backbeat. We're not doing anything different than what Chuck Berry did in the '50s."
-- Charlie Watts
>>64103378
Click the link and read you lazy fuck
>>64110067
Montie is a social construct
>>64109851
This one>>64103269
>>64112751
fake/10
>>64103592
I say the melody thing is kinda bullshit. I think it's just a myth. Sure alot of good melodies have already been taken but take Black Sabbath as an example. Tony Iommi is consider one, if not the best riff writer in metal. Sabbaths latest album 13 was very successful and while not as good as the ones from the 70's they still had new riffs which where just as catchy as old ones. I think it has more to do with people believing there are no more ideas than that we've actually ran out of new ideas and melodies. I really hope metal while take the spotlight again though. Guess I'm kinda born in the wrong generation faggot but damn hip-hop's boring and damn 70-80's metal's good.
No ,it's getting better
Pop punk it's a genre that's only gets better with each new band
You faggots are just other form of "I'm 12 and I hear nirvana" trash
>>64113674
>Tony Iommi is consider one, if not the best riff writer in metal
Iommi is good HOWEVER he worked with several different frontmen over his career which gave him a chance to try different kinds of riffs out (remember that guitarists have to build their stuff around the vocalist's singing range).
Notice that, for example, Jimmy Page stopped making good riffs by 1975 because he reached the ceiling of what he could do with Plant's vocal range (which in any case was deteriorating by that time).
>>64103231
No. There's no creative dead end for any genre. Something new can always be done.
>>64107586
Objectively incorrect
>>64114072
Or in the same vein, Iommi had tapped out his good riffs by the late 70s which is why Ozzy had to go - they'd gotten everything they could possibly get out of him.
>>64114072
I think James Hetfield had run out of riffs by the 90s as well because the last really good ones are on TBA.
>>64114072
Yeah that is very true but Iommi's just an example. Honsetly it might be true the whole "we ran out of new music" thing but I feel that the first step to not writing new stuff is convincing yourself that there's nothing new to write. Might also be that people are just not looking in the right places for creating good riffs and melodies, I don't know. I'm just a humble guitarist.
>>64115307
I dunno; KK Downing said when they did Angel of Retribution that it never gets easier to come up with riffs, at least good, original riffs that fit your vocalist's range. So you can definitely run out of ideas, especially when you have a fixed lineup like Judas Priest did (see above point that Iommi got to work with Ozzy, Dio, Ian Gillan, and Tony Martin all with extremely different ranges).
>>64113912
not a huge fan of TWY. more into state champs, knuckle puck.
i hate anime
>>64115925
>state champs
What you expected to happen we're Matt Damon with nothing better to do
>>64116087
fake Montie/10 great meme
>>64116185
>tfw honestly though he said that at first
jarrod alonge/10
