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ITT: post Classical music.
Self bump.
>reich
>>64089252
Not very complex and intentionally repetitive but he's fine for what he is.
Zzz...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGB-5ZmjSz8
>>64087997
Take care of your thread OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRmCEGHt-Qk
went to see san fran do das lied van der erde yesterday
tenor sucked, orchestra was great
makes me sad san fran is so much better than most east coast orchestras
>>64090540
The tenors on the East Coast tend to be better though.
First for based Josquin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjy1Zv8ZFdY
Bump
Inbal is pretty decent. Just got done listening through a few of his Bruckner recordings. Probably one of the better modern Bruckner conductors.
>>64092149
The Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra also do pretty good Bruckner.
I like art music! Mozart, the list goes on!
>>64092813
K..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEEtKy9lYKU
>>64092813
Further proof that Mozart is underrated.
>>64093596
But he said he likes Mozart? He has given Mozart the correct amount of attention.
>>64093910
>"like" Mozart
>implying that that's enough adoration for God's literal gift to mankind
>>64095269
>god
kek
I'm sensing an overrating of Mozart from your post
>>64095287
>posts on a classical thread
>isn't exclusively Catholic
Why even bother?
>>64095533
>2016
>clinging to religion
suit yourself
>>64095555
>>64095570
>>64087997
Hey /mu
Why you no roll for some clasical music?
>>64095646
>never composed piano music
>underrating Mozart
>Schiff
>>64095687
>never composed piano music
Bach compose for organ or harpsichord
>underrating Mozart
No fun allowed
>Schiff
No fun allowed
Dude roll or GTFO
>>64095727
>Bach compose for organ or harpsichord
http://www.tureckbach.com/publication-documentation/page/bach-myth-authenticity
>Dude roll or GTFO
>implying I wasn't
Bleh, Rach.
>>64095753
I do not understand what you try to demonstrate:
Bach test his first piano in 1749 (one year before he dies), in this last years he did not write almost anything (just a Mass and some revives).
is just simple history
>>64095646
Honestly the thing that I like about Michelangeli the best was his fierce left hand.
>>64087997
Don't know why, but Reich is incredibly annoying and boring, would pick glass far over him.
Also, can anyone recommend russian music from around 1900-1940 to get into modern russian music?
Bonus points for no Stravinsky, Schostakowitsch or Rachmaninov.
>>64096831
wanna roll?
>>64095646
roll for Michelangeli fierce left hand :D
>>64097057
wew
>>64097045
Prokofiev
>>64097057
fierce left hand achieved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9uHp1gOPZo
>>64095646
roll
>>64097045
Kabalevsky - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onIjUnLFmeM
Mosolov - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq1-_UPwYSM
Shebalin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFDTiMeimyY
Myaskovsky - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w1E03cPtPs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5CThlsuX1A
Salmanov - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JVs-zw2veg
Lourié - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mStIP_3b_Rk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtDdBbHuXYA
Roslavets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KUWQW2khZQ
>>64097045
>>64097272
maybe is to eraly...but Skrjabin too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKEOgdof6A
>>64095646
>Pollini
>communist
Wut. Is this real?
>>64097844
yep!
obviously in Italy we have a different idea of what communism mean
>>64097867
>obviously in Italy we have a different idea of what communism mean
Care to elucidate?
>>64097911
in the italian history communism rappresent was an accepted ideology, for us there's nothing bad to be commie.
in the american history communism was a sort of evil and communist were persecuted as america traitor/child-eater or simething else.
maybe some person have still a stereotypical idea of communist. have you understand?
>>64098042
That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. I did know that communism had a long history in Italy with Gramsci and Malatesta etc., but I didn't know it was still socially acceptable to be a communist in the modern day.
>>64098075
i tell you something more.
in the Italy of the late twentieth century be communist was not only approved. whole artistic and intellettualistic fields was dominated by communist.
>>64095555
>>64095632
>ywn be a Reddit supreme gentleman
Meyerbeer bump
>>64098075
Italy has always had a lot of Communist sympathies. That's partially why they disliked Mussolini.
What've you been listening to recently?
>>64100510
Pretty good.
>Bach
>Beethoven
>Mozart
What's the point of listening to other classical when these guys are all you really need?
>>64100883
probably because beethoven is the most overrated composer of all time.
>>64100510
going through a lot of different westminster recordings.
>>64100858
You know, I admire Starker as a player; he has insanely virtuosic/mechanical precision that it's uncanny. But when he says he plays without sentimentality, I can't help but think he means any emotion at all. His Kodaly interpretation is just so lacking in what I think the spirit of the piece is...
Anyway, I'm sure he'd be good for Bach. Have to checker rout sometime
>>64097442
I don't understand this whole Scriabin spelling thing. It's literally Cкpябин in Russian, no J's anywhere...
>>64101118
I am new to classical, but his interpretation of the Suites is definitely worth checking.
is Reich and all the minimal and experimental music considered classical? I always thought that classical music ends around Russian neo-classical stuff. Is Stockhausen or Cage classical?
also - love Mitsuko Uchida, great pianist.
>>64101934
Classical music as a blanket term for western art music is still being produced today and yes all of those composers are considered classical.
>>64100510
Chausson's Symphony in Bb. Easily my favorite French symphony.
>>64101934
I'd consider them more memers than actual classical artists
the 20th century composers which the tradition more accurately are Carter, Ligeti, and Messiaen
>>64095646
Rolling
>>64102417
now go listen to that GOAT Michelangeli Bach/Busoni Chaconne.
>>64102451
That was bretty gud
>>64100304
>why they disliked Mussolini
Even Mussolini was socialist and close friend of Lenin.
"You cannot get rid of me because I am and always will be a socialist. You hate me because you still love me".
What are the other decent records done by Les Arts Florissants, except The Magic Flute?
>>64095646
We also need "The Perfect Harpsichordist" Roll.
just listened/watched a recital by Murray Perahia
>handel
>mozart
>brahms
>hammerklavier
>>64103671
>Andreas Scholl
Start downloading immediately. Thanks.
>>64101198
Different systems of romanization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Russian#Transliteration_table
>>64104445
Oh that's super interesting, I had no idea. Thanks!
>>64097272
Thanks for these anon, I'm really liking Roslavets, Shebalin, and Lourie. Myaskovsky too of course but I knew of him already.
>>64095533
>Being a cathcuck
Leave.
>>64104666
Get everything by Roslavets
One of the greatest Scriabinites with Wyschengradsky and Obukhov
He was also one of the few composers to write a non meme viola themed composition, One of the greatest achievements of 20th century if you ask me
>>64104761
>Scriabinite
Well I'm twice as interested now. Probably why I liked him in the first place. Will check Obukhov and Wyschengradsky too. Double thanks
Not Russian, but in a similar vein to Shebalin, have you heard Ernst Toch? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO4cNb317TQ
I like his string quartets pretty well so far.
>non meme viola composition
Not sure what you're implying here desu lad
>>64100883
Sometimes you need more than tonality, or just want modal music.
>>64087997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM9Gk1_ZEMU
I'm only now discovering classical music lads. Went through the "Best of"s of all the greats whose names even I know over the past few days.
Brahms and Haydn were by a significant margin the most pleasurable of all. Am I a pleb for enjoying them far more than the likes of Mozart or Chopin? What others would you recommend?
>>64107128
Nah you're not a pleb. Though what have you listened to by Haydn and what have you listened to by Mozart? And why do you prefer Haydn over Mozart, out of curiosity?
>>64104851
Viola is a meme, but his two sonatas are some of the best for the instrument and utilized its timbres
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzbL7dUTS0s
Notice how it doesn't sound as good on a cello
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6v8yT_b720
![tim-hecker-love-streams[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zuF7I2v.jpg "tim-hecker-love-streams[1].jpg")
Thoughts?
>>64107207
I have only listened to:
Best of Haydn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmZF3kBZQ6E
Best of Mozart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb0UmrCXxVA
As well as similar extremely basic collections of Brahms, Beethoven, Vivaldi, Verdi, Liszt, Bach, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Schubert, Strauss, Handel, Dvorak, and Debussy over the past week, mostly while working.
I mostly wanted to sample a bit of everything to select a few I liked the most and get more in depth with those. I guess the contents of the selection itself might have as much of an impact on my reactions as the general character of each artist though. The fact that I was working at the time and the music was just background most likely had a huge effect as well.
Brahms and Haydn had a very enjoyable mellow flow throughout - I could hear, appreciate, and actually really enjoy the music, while at the same time being able to concentrate on other things without being distracted.
Listening to Chopin was the polar opposite of Brahms and Haydn, I couldn't focus on other things at all.
Mozart was enjoyable but didn't stand out particularly, most likely I've listened to too many different things one after the other. I should have taken notes.
>>64107560
You're right, I heard the transcription first and thought it was alright, but the original is noticeably better.
Are there any particular recordings you'd recommend for his stuff?
>>64107895
Well to be fair, that Haydn selection is way better than the Mozart selection.
Listen to the entirety of Mozart's:
>40th and 41st symphony
>20th, 21st, 24th Piano Concertos
>Requiem in D minor (you can stop after the Lacrimosa, the rest was written after Mozart died and pales in comparison)
>Sonatas K310, K311
Also listen to Haydn's 104th Symphony, I'm appalled that's not on the list.
>>64100510
Tod and Verklarung - Strauss
On the Town conducted by Michael Tilson Thomas
>>64106084
Shoo Poly.
>>64087997
What are the greatest non-Baroque fugues?
>>64108324
I would add the Clarinet Concerto and the Symphonia Concertante to that Mozart list.
If you liked the piano concertos, 23, 25 and 17 are also really good.
>>64101934
Classical as a term for art music - yes.
Classical period - a few centuries off
>>64103525
he was a communist in the early 20th century, but very soon turned 180 degrees
learn history pls
>>64108366
Shostakovich's Prelude and Fugue in D flat major
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lydTIHUvTk
Haven't heard his other 23 yet 2bh.
>>64108324
The Magic Flute is also an easily enjoyable piece of Mozart's. Then followed by Don Giovanni.
>>64108324
>>64108376
Thank you for the recommendations Anons.
>>64108324
>underrating the 17th piano concerto
>not even mentioning his chamber music
>>64108366
Hammerklavier final.
>>64095646
Roll for rachy
>>64100510
Have been listening to lots of Scelsi and Feldman.
Is MA Hamelin any good or is he just a meme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_KWZutFM-U
daily reminder to listen to shostakovich's 4th symphony
>>64095646
Roll for music fu.
>>64108597
he's good and a meme
>>64108366
maybe not the best but still worth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTuYoawjWA4
>>64108597
Yes
>>64108544
Why did Beethoven write unfathomably fantastic fugues?
>Grosse Fuge
>Hammerklavier
>Missa Solemnis
>9th Symphony
>Eroica funeral march
>Op. 131
>>64108407
>>>64102021
>art music
this sounds even worse. as if non - classical experimental music wasn't "art"
GOAT cello sonatas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDyUCK7K0mE
>>64100510
Beethoven first sting quartet interpreted by The Lindsays
>>64111314
I think the implication is that most would consider it a higher, more complex and upper class art form. I don't mean to imply it's inherently better but I'm saying from a common person's perspective.
>>64095646
May as well
Meme
>>64100883
I like western art music! Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, the list goes on!
>>64111314
The word "art" doesn't really mean anything post Duchamp anyway.
All music is technically art, but only classical is "art music"
plus its a fun term because it makes people angry
>>64109709
eh, he tried too hard. I prefer my fugues to be effortless and polished. Grosse fugue in particular is an abortion of a fugue. awful.
>>64108366
One of my personal favorites. Definitely my favorite from the 20th century, even above Shostakovich and Grosse Fuge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTpAIEp6DUo&ab_channel=Stravinskij0
>>64118201
Oops. Forgot where that sentence was going across only three words.
Who /ArturoBenedettiMichelangeli/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe6t826pMFZW29nH0ErBDKA
>>64095646
rollinggg
>>64095646
Come on, Lang Lang baby!
>>64117426
Fair enough, the appeal of Beethoven, to me at least, was the fact that he tried too hard. Much different than the (what sounds like) effortlessness of Bach and Mozart.
>>64100883
>likes beethoven
>no palestrina
Spiritually impure aesthete detected, purge yourself.
why Mozart's fugues are superior to others' fugues?
>>64121091
Because Mozart was quite literally channeling God himself
>>64121166
what if there's no God, then what was he channeling?
>>64100883
Arguably the most overrated composers of all times.
>>64121447
See Plato's Ion
>>64121526
>Mozart
>Overrated
Pick one
Been listening to these a lot lately, feels kind of like watching old war movies. Any Nielsen fans on /classical/?
>>64121621
Yeah, he's pretty good. My favorites are probably the 4th and 5th. The 6th is just weird to me.
He's also got a lovely short piece titled Saga-Drom.
>>64121585
Mozart might be overrated but it is Mozzart that is the one that is underrated
see pic >>64108544
>>64121678
Yeah, I was thinking of the 4th and 5th mostly, those are the ones that evoke the war movie vibe. I'm not sure what the 6th is supposed to evoke, but it sure is interesting, and I'm getting to know it better. I think it's a good one too.
>>64121447
Well, then there would be no Mozart of course!
>>64087997
Post a better triple concerto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xGoIx2BK-o
Pro tip: [spoiler]You can't[/spoiler]
>>64122330
Brandenburg 5, wow that was so hard.
>>64122281
He was expressing the cosmic depth where he came from, and it's infinitely deeper than any mythological inventions of men.
>>64121091
Bach, Reicha Reger and Froberger though
>>64095646
>implying I'd roll and risk having digits that let these filthy homosexual pianists play Bach
![[HorribleSubs] Working!!! - 10 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_11.07_[2015.09.06_15.50.12].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4KxieMS.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Working!!! - 10 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_11.07_[2015.09.06_15.50.12].jpg")
>>64122352
>mfw any of the Brandenburg concertos
Didn't I tell you you can't? Why even try and embarrass yourself like this?
>>64122384
>Bach
doubtful
>Reicha Reger Froberger
literally whos: the post
>>64122382
Yes of course, I agree that the mystery of the cross is infinitely deeper than anything that could be invented by men!
Mozart knew this more than anyone!
>>64122439
>implying Telemann composed anything of worth outside the two magnificats and the Paris Quartets
>>64122538
>I've never listened to Telemann
>>64122487
>mystery of the cross
but the cross was a torture device invented by the Romans
lmao
>>64122619
>I've listened to three pieces by Telemann, which is two pieces too many
FTFY
>>64103525
Yeah, fuckin' Democrats! Hitler was a Democrat too! Now they can never call us racist again!
Does anyone have the Varnay/Mitropoulos performance of Schoenberg's arranged Quartet No.2?
Rousseau was a quite good composer
are there more examples of people who were not professionals but composed good music?
>>64122689
Then tell me why your opinion matters?
Pic related, I'm the hare and you're the faggot getting decapitated.
>>64122867
Chaplin 2bh
>>64117426
>but only classical is "art music"
there's more than just classical that is art music, but you're mostly right
>>64123067
did he compose? I had no idea
>>64123110
pooinloo and sandnigger music is not art no matter how much relativists claim it to be.
>>64123146
He actually wrote the music to pretty much all his films.
>>64123153
I was more thinking indian tradition and free jazz
>>64123153
>pooinloo and sandnigger music is not art
you're full of pretentious bullshit
>>64122479
>doubtful Bach's fugues are superior to Mozarts
Not really. Bach is easily master of that domain.
>Reicha Reger Froberger literally whos
translation: I dont really know about fugue composers
>>64123170
kek. free jazz is not art music.
>>64122867
there are many examples
Unico Wilhelm Graf Van Wassenaer was a diplomatic dutch.
His concerts for a long time it was believed they were composed by Pergolesi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D38YGgGAFd8
>>64123170
I already mentioned pooinloo music.
Negro squawks are not art either.
>>64123180
Cucks get out.
>>64122867
Franklin of course :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR4mlR3laik
>>64122867
IVES
V
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S
>>64123219
>doubtful Bach's fugues are superior to Mozarts
>anything Baroque can be superior to classicism
hot opinions
>translation: I dont really know about fugue composers
jeez, I've just been playing Ariadne musica tunes, are ok, but nothing extraordinary. all these guys are slightly above average.
>>64123153
>pooinloo music is not art
>mfw
>>64123244
Damn!
>>64123303
Damn...
>>64122738
How did you get that from his post?
Anytime a bad person is Socialist it must be a Republican lie?
>>64123376
>Mussolini
>a bad person
>>64108324
My favourite sonata is probably 332
Just personal memories
>>64122867
Euripides
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn7jvHI2kU4
>>64123395
Let me guess. You're an edgy teen that also owns a Che Guevara T-shirt?
>>64123356
>>64122867
ubermusik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcvINsq1KSw
>>64123462
Che Guevara legitimately was a great man you cuck. I bet you think Stalin did anything wrong too.
What are some essential symphonies? Please post your recommendations or charts
>>64123333
>anything Baroque can be superior to classicism
>hot opinions
exactly
>>64123585
Mahler 5, 6, Shostakovich 7, Tchaikovsky 6, Haydn 104, Sibelius 2, Martinů 1 and 4, Schnittke 2.
>>64123657
https://rbt.asia/mu/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=fuck+off+poly
>>64123657
Thank you
>>64123585
beauty borges
>>64100510
loving the Weinberg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMPUSL30JqY
>>64123067
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=monaXOpmH1U
Which version of Tristan und Isolde should I watch?
>>64123921
The Furtwangler recording.
>>64123921
not too crazy about any of the ones on DVD to be quite frank. i think i watched one of the earlier Barenboim ones and then spent the rest of the time listening to CDs.
>>64123973
>watch
>>64123991
>implying you can't watch a CD rotate
>>64124075
wew
>>64123973
>>64123991
I'll just get a random DVD in that case, then look out for the Furtwangler recording if I can find it. Cheers.
>>64100510
>>64095646
>no zimerman
How does this place feel about Krystian Zimerman?
>>64125489
He's good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoU-iCT21fc
>>64125489
Good cheeky lad
>>64095646
roll
Today is Schnabel's birthday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcIdgp-vLgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvBFHsGWqTE
Matačić is underrated
>>64126931
Of almost all the conductor/performers who are also composers, his are some of the best compositions. Very cool modernist works rather than crappy neo-romatic 2nd rate Mahler pastiches that most conductors manage.
>>64127103
He wrote his own Mozart cadenzas too which are extremely good
>>64127123
Has anyone but him recorded them?
>>64127103
>Of almost all the conductor/performers who are also composers
Not exactly an uncommon thing, though. A good majority of the composers I know were also at the very least competent performers. Though it differs from composer to composer whether or not how actively they engaged in performing.
>>64127130
Not that I know of sadly
>>64127159
Schoenberg could apparently play just about every instrument and even wanted to join the Hollywood Quartet and do a Quintet recital with them sometime (with him on cello).
Only a few recordings of him conducting actually exist though, but they are interesting
>tfw no full Wagner opera recordings led by Strauss
>>64127245
>tfw no recordings of Mahler conducting
>>64127944
>tfw no Chopin piano rolls
>the last great classical composition was 1984
>the only good one since is just a Boulez tribute piece
why must classical die bros?
>>64109709
Eh. I think the Grosse Fuge kind of sucks. It's a very dry fugue in my opinion.
Rest are good.
>>64130611
tfw the meme machine of /classical/ is forever ded
>>64130611
Are you defending that RYM pleb?
>>64123973
Furtwangler is overrated, Solti is much better.
>>64131155
>Solti
>Wagner
Lol, I mean it makes sense that a jew would try to ruin Wagner.
>>64130611
What fucking school let's Ame teach?
This general is almost an anomaly on this board, and since the death of CLT it has been so uneventful and slow.
I suggest we gradually migrate to /his/ - history and humanities with a parallel general. /his/ is literally "high culture, the board". Already literature and art film are discussed there instead of remaining on the more plebeian /lit/ and /tv/.
Romanticism is trash.
Prove me wrong: you can't.
>>64131393
Prove yourself right first.
>>64131260
/his/ is mediocre. It's mostly threads about war/conquests and 19 year old's from /lit/ posting about philosophy and religion. Yawn.
>>64131546
It's not like this board is better.
>>64131260
Do you think any of the people there could provide discussion?
>>64131546
When I went there, it seemed like people who played Civilization larping about ancient warfare.
>>64131260
>>64131708
/his/ is slower than /mu/, so it would be even deader than here. Not to mention that they're only interested in marching band music and folk tunes. You may get something akin to the fine arts threads going twice a months with threads consisting of nothing but youtube link dumps, but it's unlikely you'd get any meaningful discussion going with the /his/choolers. You'd have better luck over at /lit/ desu.
>>64131849
/lit/ usually has an inferior catalog to /his/, imo. I think that's because it is for those who respect classics, have a scientific/historical approach to knowledge, and are multidisciplinary. The opposite of those makes for worse posting.
>>64131849
>/lit/
Yes, but this isn't literature. Discussion of poetry in Classical music might fit in but a /Classical/ thread would be baleeted.
>>64132027
>>64132152
I agree completely but I'm not surprised to see dissent ITT. Music has a much younger tradition and the masters of the art were in many respects tradesmen. Compare that to something like literature, ancient and aristocratic, and you might understand why music enthusiasts would be more against of joining a synthetic enterprise like /his/ than the other demographics.
I also think /his/ has more postgrads or higher, just going off the references used and amount of niche stuff.
>>64122867
Telemann was apparently not classically trained. Also Cantemir was a Moldovan diplomat that compiled Ottoman music in the western tradition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFPyO_BAK-I
>>64123244
Beter interpretations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8lzbFkrlUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhshUqfjMYY
Shame he composed so little.
>>64100510
>>64130611
>Max Richter
Are there any good composers whose sole talent lay in their good taste in music, which they used to basically plagiarise and combine snippets from other sources to great effect? So their knowledge of theory and performance would be amateurish at best in this case.
>>64122867
>>64134105
>whose sole talent lay in their good taste in music, which they used to basically plagiarise and combine snippets from other sources to great effect?
Telemann.
>>64134105
You sound really desperate
>>64134105
No, hiphop was the first to pioneer that.
>>64134809
>Telemann
>plagiarism
Subhuman gypsies should be grateful that their musical styles are being popularized.
>>64134809
I remember reading a biography ages ago, and I know he had some sort of difficulties at school but I thought that was the non-musical subjects?
>>64134972
Why? I'm not looking for inspiration. Just thought it would be interesting, the critic as composer. Schumann was really talented all-round of course.
>>64135320
>Why?
You sounded like a person that wants to compose, but realizes their lack of talent.Now you hope you can "make it" with knowledge alone and are trying to learn if that's possible.
>>64087997
The reichmeister in chief. I don't know anyone who knows of him other than people who did GCSE music
What's the deal with all the Bach self-recycling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nbn5g9vfSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2laUv3y7OfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMzQyzqiwn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98UjjwzJBFE
>>64135302
Just like you're hoping your posting is responded to.
>>64136013
Fuck off ESL
>>64135902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1maDHoAEV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scrT3jOE0Yo
>>64135902
He had to write a lot of music, it was his job. You try writing some thousand works without borrowing from older ones.
If it ain't baroque, don't fix it.
Why it's so hard to listen to the pre-Baroque music? I just barely beat pic related.
>>64136760
Try secular music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK3295_b8VY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7jM0JKthwo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5HaUrH0dp0
>>64137118
HMO songs are secular, actually: "mainly Franco-Flemish amorous songs from court of Burgundy".
>>64136760
what you mean with "pre-baroque music"?
>>64137362
music that was made before the baroque period? is this really that complicated?
>>64137938
absolute not!
is an universe inside another universe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aySwfcRaOZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvIEA2dBKGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQjdEbZH2wI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWLsLAujZzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnjLR5uN5Z0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGW2HL35kqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzloIi9UtVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INJbklr8BCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RBtL_-VpWs
>>64136760
>Why it's so hard to listen to the pre-Baroque music? I just barely beat pic related.
Historical distance? The fact that its values are completely different?
>>64109709
With the exception of the Hammerklavier fugues (both of them), those aren't his best or most original ones. I'd list Op. 101/IV's development, Op. 110/III and the penultimate variation of the Diabelli set instead.
Wow, some of Debussy's stuff sounds like modern piano jazz from over 70 years later. Amazing.
>>64136760
why? many renaissance pieces seem easy and fun, unlike most baroque
