Why is UK like Mecca of best musicians from 20th century?
>>64026899
Is it, or are you only aware of them because of the massive exportation of American and British culture that kicked off after WW2?
Does Ireland count as part of the UK? If so, I'd agree.
Let's see, where was Tupac born?
>Not Britain
Well there's your answer. It's not.
It's certainly some kind of mecca, though.
>>64026899
>why is UK like Mecca
top wee
>>>/pol/
I know what you're trying to do fagglet
>>64026899
WHATS IN THE BOX
>>64026982
ignoring the reference, it's space rocks
which simultaneously disappointed and excited me when I first learned about it
I almost wish there were no pictures or information about what's in there, just because the mystery about what it is was fun.
>>64026930
This post is startling and non-sensical because Tupac was a very, very bad musician.
>>64027195
If that's how you feel, you must not enjoy hip hop at all, which brings the validity of your opinions on music into question.
Regardless of your opinion, Tupac was a huge cultural icon and as close to a revolutionary that hip hop ever had. His impact on hip hop was massive and he'll be a household name in western countries for decades.
>>64027195
how so?
he made music about what he believed in and put his emotions into nearly every song, which I'm pretty sure qualifies as art in the form of music.
>>64027259
Not him, but his validity as an artist and the quality of his music are two entirely separate things.
For example, yes, Viper really is addicted to crack. But his music is still bad.
And, an example of the opposite: Dr. Dre rapped about being a gangster when in reality his was firmly middle class and Dre never got into the gang life, and had his lyrics written for him by others. But, his music was still good.
>>64026899
>Why is UK like Mecca
I know EXACTLY what you're trying to do here.
>>64027300
>And, an example of the opposite: Dr. Dre rapped about being a gangster when in reality his was firmly middle class and Dre never got into the gang life, and had his lyrics written for him by others. But, his music was still good.
i mixed up authenticity and validity as an artist
>>64027250
>you must not enjoy hip hop at all, which brings the validity of your opinions on music into question.
>dumb non-music reaction image
>tfw a b8 thread solely has music discussion and b8-calling in it
I'm impressed /moo/
>>64026899
Because UK radio actually plays music, as opposed to US radio that only plays maybe 3-4 genres.
>>64027423
>>dumb non-music reaction image
durrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>you must not enjoy hip hop at all, which brings the validity of your opinions on music into question.
Yeah, if you genuinely do not enjoy an entire genre, pointing out a single artist as bad, especially one so widely acclaimed, brings the validity of your opinions into question, at least as far as hip hop goes.
It'd be like me not liking rock and calling Jimi Hendrix a poor artist.
>>64027300
That doesn't answer the question: How was Tupac a bad musician?
A rapper's instrument is his voice and his lyrics, which Tupac has gotten widespread critical acclaim for.
>>64027489
>Yeah, if you genuinely do not enjoy an entire genre, pointing out a single artist as bad, especially one so widely acclaimed, brings the validity of your opinions into question, at least as far as hip hop goes.
simplifying this a bit:
if you don't enjoy an entire genre, you're obviously not going to enjoy artists that make music that fits into that genre. so why would your opinions on that single artist matter when you feel the same about every other artist in the genre? you have no standard for what qualifies good hip hop if you feel that all hip hop is bad.
>>64027489
>entire genre
>subgenre of electronic music
>equating hip hop to rock
>still posting dumb non-music reaction image
>>64027525
That isn't me. Literally the first words in that post were "Not him"
>>64027174
the black stone is outside dingus.
>>64027586
explain
>>64027538
>electronic music
>genre
also pic related
>>64027606
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Stone
let me tell you a secret. nothing's inside that shit.it's just a box where all muslims bow towards to 34 times a day.
>>64027643
THE MYSTERY IS ALIVE
WHAT COULD BE IN THE MYSTERY BOX?
>>64026982
Look it up, some rich dude shot video from the inside.
>>64027250
Post your top 3 albums from
Electro-swing
Calypso
Crunkcore
KPOP
>>64027668
kek
Name ONE musician of note from an Islamist country.
>>64027707
Muhammed
>>64027671
You're missing the point of what I said; if you don't enjoy an entire genre, your opinions on a specific artist are irrelevant.
For example, I don't enjoy Electro-Swing or K-Pop. So me singling out specific artists from either genre as bad would be silly. I don't like the entire genre, of course I wouldn't enjoy particular artists that make music within that genre. Which is why my opinions on Electro-Swing and K-Pop are irrelevant. I don't enjoy either genre.
>>64027707
The Beatles
>>64027731
>backpedalling
>>64027250
>you must not enjoy hip hop at all, which brings the validity of your opinions on music into question.
>I don't enjoy either genre.
That brings the validity of your opinions on music into question.
>>64027765
not either of them, this is really poor b8 friendo
try next time
>>64027765
I have no idea what you're on about at this point. I'm doing exactly what I described: I don't like either of those genres, so I'm not praising or criticizing artists within the genre. I'm not backpedaling. Music was too broad of a generalization, in hindsight, but I'm still correct.
He was criticizing Tupac when he doesn't enjoy hip hop; if you don't enjoy hip hop, the relevance of your opinions on specific artists from within the genre is questionable. That's what I'm saying. You're going to have to be more specific with whatever problem your finding in my statement.
>>64027785
>shouting ''bait'' when you lose and realise you fucked up
>>64027844
>not either of them
mediocre dubs
>>64027844
That's not me, and the first words in his post were "not either of them".How are you having trouble understanding what that means?
>>64027749
kek
Name 20 big 20th century musicians from the UK, I can easily name 50 from the US
>>64028154
>I can easily name 50 from the US
Bullshit.
>>64028260
Smashing Pumpkins
NWA
Loveless
Elvis
Jerry Lee Lewis
Chuck Berry
Scott Choplin
Buddy Holly
Bill Halley
Nina Simone
and more....
I'm tired right now so I'll let my fellow Americans fill in the rest
The UK has a few great bands sure but the US oozes talent from every goddamn corner
>>64028328
epic
>>64028328
>I can easily name 50
>do it then
>names 10
>"the list goes on...."
K E K
E
K
>>64027707
Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
>>64028582
i thought he was indian?
>>64028582
>A sufi artist that lived in London and died in the 90s
Try again cuck
>>64028711
fine then his nephew Rahat Fateh Ali Khan
>>64026922
>Does Ireland count as part of the UK?
Only Northern Ireland.
>>64027489
I like hip hop and I think 2pac was a talentless hack and his fanbase are usually retarded.
>>64027671
>Calypso
WILMOUTH
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>The UK music scene
>2016
lmao
>>64026930
>Implying Tupac was one of the best musicians from 20th century
HA!
>>64028711
There are plenty. None of which are popular in the burgersphere. Not my fault you're uncultured.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovoxnLqwaBA
Hey guys how about we stop having this retarded tumblr-tier discussion and actually talk about the point of the thread.
I wouldn't say the UK dominated music for the ENTIRE 20th century, but it sure as hell did during the 50s-70s, which was arguably the most important part by far. Anyone naming the top 10 most respected and influential rock bands of all time should have at least 7 from the UK and maybe 3 from the US. Why did the limeys kick our asses so bad? Is it because of our culture? Is it because our record companies ruined potentially great artists?
>>64029421
my guess was less than 100k, so I guess it exceeded expectations
>>64026899
They had produced nothing of worth for centuries despite being one of the greatest cultures of europe so it had to come sooner or later.
>>64027195
Stupid nigger. You wish you were white.
>>64028328
This is the most reddit-tier shit I've read here.
>>64029351
It's funny cause it's true.
>>64026899
Because the UK is culturally superior to the rest of the world, by quite some margin.
>>64030207
>culturally superior
>has reality TV shows about nightclub toilet attendants
>>64030275
Perhaps making culture out of real people leading real lives is more culturally significant than fantasy shit.
>>64030275
So what? Name another country which doesn't have a cultural dichotomy of some kind. There is more 'good' culture in the UK than anywhere else, and the best of our culture is the best of world culture.
>>64027259
>made music about what he believed in and put his emotions into nearly every song
>CALL THE COPS WHEN YOU SEEE TUPPPAACC
>GRAB YOUR GLOC WHEN YOU SEE TUPPPACCC.
Nah m8 it's just some nigger noise.
>>64027250
His impact was for the worse though.
RunDMC was fun and not cringe enducing.
Now hip hop is missing all of it's musical aspect and is all about being useless fucking degenerate criminal.
>>64026899
Nirvana was american OP
>>64030716
>Nirvana was american
Nirvana is so over-rated. Also we were talking about the BEST artists of 20th century.
