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What is so great about this album? Pitchfork just gave it a ten.
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What is so great about this album? Pitchfork just gave it a ten.
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it's fun

don't tell me you don't get any feels from fade to black either
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violence

WE ALL SHALL DIE
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>>64020316
i have never been a metalhead. but ive spinned a couple times. And i prefer liturgy and deafheaven. i am total pfork metal tier when it comes to this genre of music. i feel bad for that
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>>64020294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ6gA9ZkG9A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AisV4KL6hw
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It's the best Metallica album by a long shot, that's probably why. A top ten thrash album imo
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>>64020294
>p4k drones
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>>64020386
>by a long shot
no
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>>64020349
you should, frankly

read up on musical development and structure
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>>64020437
i really dont like metal
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>>64020437
this is my goat metal song desu
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>>64020294
It's a 7/10 I'd say. A bit back loaded.
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>>64020472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58MsAmbQURM&nohtml5=False
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All metal feels constructed to me. Completely artificial faux edginess.

Am I wrong? I've never listened to much metal but it all feels like angsty teens rebelling in a very calculated way.
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It's probably still the best thrash metal album ever made. There are some other greats too but I'm hard pressed to say they're better. Master of Puppets is basically RTL part 2, which is still great and all, and Reign In Blood is blistering, but it's also super short and almost devoid of melody.
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>>64020294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewRjZoRtu0Y
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>>64020533
this is what happens when you let /mu/ memes think for you
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Metallica is really respected for a reason. They may kind of be dadmetal but they have some great shit. Thrash metal really isn't my style these days but I can still get down with some Metallica.
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well MBDTF also got a 10 if that gives you some perspective
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>>64020573
I don't. I just never have gotten into metal.
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Can't believe no one's mentioned creeping death yet. That song is easily in my top 3 metallica songs.
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>>64020533
Listen to grindcore or mathcore, those subgenres sound less-constructed.
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>>64020533
Try out some Black metal and Stoner metal

They're generally the two subgenres people who feel that way still like
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>>64020648
That's actually my least favorite song on the album.
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>>64020648
>Creeping Death
>Trapped Under Ice
>Fade To Black
>The Call of Ktulu
>For Whom The Bell Tolls

Fuck, love this album
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>>64020648
Mah nigga
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I mean AJFA is objectively better but...
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>>64021256
>AJFA is better
Explain yourself you filthy slut
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>>64021279
aside from one being over played like crazy? better riffs, heavier tone, faster, more pissed off. It's the end product of three albums worth of progression

But...

i'd go AJFA, then MOP, then ride the lighting.
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>>64021347
>better riffs
Are seriously choosing Harvester of Sorrow over Creeping Death? Or comparing the two title tracks?

>Heavier tone
>faster
Did we listen to the same albums?

>more pissed off
you have one point
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>>64021383
Well i should have added that i don't much care for the production either. Shits super tinny. My opinion though, i'll state that here.

Fight Fire With Fire is god tier though.
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>>64021347
>>64021383
And another point

>overplayed like crazy
Seriously? You're arguing that point with One on that album
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>>64021256
No, it isn't. It's not even close. AJFA is a boring, bloated mess.
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>>64020294
nothing

>>64020349
deafheaven is alright sometimes. liturgy is gross. come on m8.

>>64020437
>structure
you sound like a conformist pig.
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Ride The Lightning contains everything that was ever objectively good about Metallica. The production on this album is also the best they ever had - the sound is juicy and steely, something they lost later.
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>>64020563

It's really not. It got a ten because it's a pioneering work of the genre. It's one of the earlier seminal albums from the genre and it got a ton of people into the genre.

There are better thrash albums. Loads of em, but this one was earlier and arguably did more for the history of the genre.

Megadeth's Rust in Peace is better.

Slayer's classic 3 album span from Reign to Seasons.

Arguably Master of Puppets and Justice.
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>>64021574

The production is nowhere near the best. It's before they tried to make their albums "loud" to the point where they lost dynamics (Black to present) but it's still somewhat cheap sounding 80s production. The sound quality does not match Master of Puppets.
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Ride The Lightning was a pivotal point in thrash metal. Before there was only meat heads playing at 180 bpm singing about fighting people. But with Ride the Lightning Metallica proved that thrash metal could be a legitimate art form.
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>>64021575
>Megadeth's Rust in Peace is better.
Megadeth's best probably, but nah

>Slayer's classic 3 album span from Reign to Seasons.
I might agree with South of Heaven, but that's about it.

>Arguably Master of Puppets and Justice.
Puppets maybe but definitely not Justice.
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>>64021591
The production on MoP may be a next level technically, but the album sounds too synthetic and dry.
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What other metal band retained that thrash metal feel once they got a budget?

Generally there aren't many metal bands that survive production. When they do it's a glorious thing. This albums being one of the blueprints on how to not fuck it up.
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Actually it's the best memetallica album. Better than mop and kea, don't let anybody tell you different.
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>>64020533
>Am I wrong?
Partially. You could say a lot of the gore or satanic imagery in death metal isn't really serious. Even if there are """""real""""" """"satanists""""" ( muh Behemoth, muh Deicide ) in metal, Venom who popularized the "evil hellish satan fucks you" thing said it was all for the show. I don't get the gore but i like the bands so whatever.

On the otherside metal was at his birth more a poor people, outcast thing ( don't begin to talk about mallcore it's not remotely true today ) if some ways to display emotions or opinions were hidden or indirect the genre overall, outside of headliners or marketable mallcore isn't really artificial.

In the case of thrash metal, hardcore influence often lead to the genre being very down to earth and all that edginess being quite sincere. But again Slayer made an album called "god hate us all" and have ( had? i don't remember if it was the one who died ) a christian in the band. In general being over the top is a common and general feature of metal.

Anyway i like that music so the intentions of the people making it are quite secondary.

I'm not sure of what you exactly meant with artificial faux edginess but that designation shouldn't fit too much with these links
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONxJb8gjvs0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txxz4CzvKnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk9cwB2syB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT7Mpdzae-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrQPIOVwWoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEXGlnK1rw0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX92w-WEiQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDKaSJd3rMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSUQYzqXZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7THRPYKlJck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ZzqWhvOVA


>>64020762
Interesting
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>>64021912
HAHA

MEMETALLICA

I LOVE MEMES! XXDD
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>>64021942
LOL
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I damn love all the Lovecraft references on this album.
And overall, it's a great one.
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and justice for all is still the best

>tfw still have my Ride the Lightning shirt from when I was 14-15

damn I should put it up on the wall or something
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Rol
Mop
Ajfa
Kea
Black album

The rest of those garbage albums
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>>64021933
>But again Slayer made an album called "god hate us all" and have ( had? i don't remember if it was the one who died ) a christian in the band.
No, that's Tom Araya.
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>>64022382
And im pretty sure Tom has said on multiple occasions that he doesnt really care whats in the lyrics, as long as they will piss people off and sound good.
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Metallica bores the shit out of me, they need louder faster drums
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>>64022400
Yeah, I've always respected how cool he is about all that. He's very good at compartmentalizing his religious beliefs from the art of the band.
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>>64020400
Ride and Puppets are two best Metallica albums. Kill em all is pretty good
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>>64021188
>doesn't like Ride The Lightning on Ride The Lightning
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>>64020294
Master is the generally accepted best Metallica album, so p4k can't give it a 10.

It's good, but less polished then MoP. I think AJFA is actually the best, but the production is not great.
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>>64020294
Pitchfork is shit. That's a very good thrash album though.
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>mfw Ride the Lightning inexplicably becomes /mu/core
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>>64020379
Damn, I never even remembered that second Helloween riff. Just goes to show how much more of an impression it left on RtL, that guitar tone is unforgettable.
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people with good taste actually now that Master of Puppets and Kill Em All are better than Ride the Lightning. Kill Em All is so much more fun and Master of Puppets is everything Ride the Lightning is but better
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>>64023102
such a shame it couldnt have been recorded in the quality Master of puppets was
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>>64020294
it's ok desu senpai
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>>64021256
>I mean AJFA is objectively better but...
not even close
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>>64023295
I don't get it. Why would you want to make RtL inferior?
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this is better than anything metallica did
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both this and kill em all are amazing, the instrumental songs in both of them are FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKING 10+++++
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>>64023420
lel

no
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>>64020294
its good but really ive heard it so many times i dont really care anymore also whats the point of reviewing it now like wow p4k thanks for letting me know about meatallica
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>>64023420
>the worst Belladonna-era album is the best
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>great guitar tone
>great riffs
>Fade to Black

whats the issue here
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it's not even in Metallica's top 3 albums
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Creeping death is the best Metallica song
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>>64024775
Every song on MOP and AJFA is better than creeping death.
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