I've been kinda trying to get into hip hop for a while now, people told me it's great for parties and that it can easily cheer me up.
So far I've listened to the following rappers: Young Thug, Rick Ross, Gucci Mane, Desiigner, Waka Flocka Flame, Chief Keef, Kanye West, Drake, PeeWee Longway, Migos, Future, Young Scooter, Travis Scott, Lil Durk, Kevin Gates and some other people.
I also like to get familiar with the artists I listen to, so I watched a bunch of interviews with them, and I want to know... Why is Drake the only one that can speak a piece of proper English and sound completely intelligible at times?
He actually comes across as a rather eloquent person at times, but why? Why is he the only one? And why are others not like him? I mean, you're a rapper, you rely on your words, so aren't you supposed to be a great lyricist, be familiar with the language as much as possible and have a huge vocabulary, so isn't it a bit contradictory to be like this?
Then again, I didn't pay that much attention to their lyrics, they could be shy and awkward in interviews, but maybe their lyrics are better, I have to check them out yet on rapgenius because I can't understand them that much while listening to their songs. The majority like them sound like that incomprehensible character from The Wire that was maybe a female or something. Future is the biggest offender when it comes to this. But anyways, yes, I have to check out the lyrics.
rap is generally based on the culture and language of the rapper's upbringing. Never claimed to be the next poetry.
>Be, be, 'fore we came to this country
>We was kings and queens, never porch monkeys
>It was empires in Africa called Kush
>Timbuktu, where every race came to get books
>To learn from black teachers who taught Greeks and Romans
>Asian Arabs and gave them gold when
>Gold was converted to money it all changed
>Money then became empowerment for Europeans
>The Persian military invaded
>They learned about the gold, the teachings and everything sacred
>Africa was almost robbed naked
>Slavery was money, so they began making slave ships
>Egypt was the place that Alexander the Great went
>He was so shocked at the mountains with black faces
>Shot up they nose to impose what basically
>Still goes on today, you see?
trap artists (particularly from atlanta) are going to have thick southern accents
>My nigga you know we both came from nothin!
>I ain't 3hunna but I'm Sosa bitch!
>I'm so fuckin' hood, a nigga hood rich
>L-E-A-N-I-N-G
>Bitch, I ain't Barry, but I play with white
>Put diamonds in my teeth so talking ain't cheap
>Okay my girl ass fat, she got me geeking round this bitch
>No homo, two times, no homo nigga but I'm sure nigga
>I'm fo real, I'm fo real
>Jungle, jungle, I introduce that girl to my anaconda
>You a scaredy cat, I'm a scaredy cat
>You can't go near my style, you's a Young Thug imposta, lion in the jungle call me Young Thug Mufasa
>The difference my car your car, my car cost way more money
>I'll shoot at you and yo' ho like a porno movie
>Even at a concert, I'll show a nigga
>I wanna whole grammy, I wanna hit yo nanny
>I'm on 4 different drugs, shit I'm high as a loft
>Catch your bitch down bad, go on, suck some dick
>My diamonds, they say Pikachu
>My bitch gettin kind of chubby, she need to go on a fuckin diet
>I got this watch from Italy, but the current time say New York
>My trigger finger just itch
>Yes sir, my shit look like cameras flashin
>I got this watch from Italy, but the current time say New York
>Pussy nigga don't make a sound, don't make no sounds
>Boom, boom, boom, boom C4 bro
>TAKE YO PICTURE BABY TAKE YO MOTHAFUCKIN PICTURE BABY
>I want lick you, pubic hair, oh my gosh, I'm going there, where are you going, Thug? To her spot
>Feel like Donald Trump, I made Forbes List this month
>Can't shit on you, Thugger constipated
>If I had a group I'd go solo, my uncle still smoke blow
>I'm not Gucci, but BURR BURR, BURR BURR BURR, that's the sound of my trunk, I got birds inside of there
>I'M ON MY WAY TO BE ET BABBY
>I'm the boss so you can't recruit me nigga, can't move me, salute me and shoot me nigga
>KISS A NIGGA BITCH PERFECT NO CPR
>No homo, I love Alicia but I hate keys
>Now I speak five different languages even Guapanese
>She braid my hair, R motherfuckin Kelly
How can anyone listen to this nigger garbage? Even ironically?
You sound like a defener, honestly. Hip-hop/rap isn't about speaking perfectly its about feeling. Drake is also meme-tier. I don't know how you can't understand Kanye, dude speaks clearly. If you haven't already, listen to Graduation.
>>63914417
LOL. Even the smart kids can find the class clown entertaining, bruh.
>proper English
No such thing. English is the bastard child of Old English being a cum dumpster for every other language on the planet.
And ebonics (or AAVE) is an actually recognized dialect of English with its own conventions and everything. It isn't just random slang like a lot of people seem to think it is.
>>63914155
It's all about image you fucking autist. Hip hop isn't a music genre, it's profitable pop culture entertainment.
>>63914497
holy shit, this is amazing
i want to study languages, is there some science that deals with that
It's image. It's another reason why hip hop isn't taken seriously as a form of music or art, because most rappers cannot escape the thug mentality and Ebonics they desperately crave and put in every one of their tracks.
>>63914497
old english is completely indecipherable to me
>>63914627
I hope you're not being sarcastic or something but yes, linguistics.
>>63914682
It's because English was heavily influenced by Greek, Latin, and French. It's the reason modern English doesn't sound like German or Dutch.
>>63914155
I assume this is a bait thread, but all the rappers you named are not exactly known for their lyrical content. With those rappers it is more about the beats and the energy their vocals bring to the production than what they are actually saying.
Maybe listen to some MF Doom, Mos Def (Black on Both Sides), The Roots, OutKast, GZA, Nas (Illmatic and Stillmatic), Tribe Called Quest, etc. Not that any of these are the absolute pinnnacle of hip hip lyricism but they obviously arent trap.
>>63914634
>most rappers cannot escape the thug mentality
If Gucci Mane got so much money then why he robbin'?
Seriously, I don't get the mentality of these people.
Gucci, Chief Keef, Migos, etc...
Aren't they millionaires now, their gang life is supposed to be behind them, so why are they getting constantly arrested for doing stupid ****?
They have all the money in the world, why would they still associate themselves with gangs and that thug life ****?
>>63914293
>WE
>>63914774
because its fun. its in their blood.
>>63914627
yes it's called linguistics. you can major in it. not sure bout job prospects but yeah its interesting
>>63914497
So, say, if we went back in time to 1100, we wouldn't have much trouble communicating with those people?
>>63914835
>>63914627
But to be able to study languages you also need to know those languages, right?
Now, that's fucked up, and like double the effort than just majoring in one language.
>>63914882
Maybe, I don't know. Pronunciation would be really different though even if the words were more or less the same. A lot of English's silent letters like the silent e, the k and g in knight, etc were fully pronounced at some point in the language. And also at some point there was a shift in the pronunciation of vowels. I don't remember when that was but before that the vowel pronunciations would be pretty different too.
>>63914959
Not necessarily. It helps but when I was taking courses we were taught shit using languages just looking at the pronunciation of stuff and didn't really need to know the languages to come up with patterns that would help in whatever we were trying to do at the time.
If you go to some country to study some language though, more often than not you'll learn that language just by doing what you're doing though.
>>63914795
>WUZ
>>63915056
lol you've never had sex
>>63915081
>y-you must be fun at parties!
>haha you a virgin! look at me projecting
>its great because its retarded ignorant nigger shit
>you just have to shut off your brain to enjoy it! XD
See, this exactly what I mean. Why the fuck do I have to shut off my brain to enjoy myself at some place?
Yeah, it's ignorant nigger shit and boring, plus I can't understand 90% of the stuff this retard is saying.
>>63915048
>knight, etc were fully pronounced
Damn, pronouncing knight as "KNIGHT" instead of "nait" sounds so weird. Kind of like "k-nicht" and it sounds pretty German.
>>63914293
Timbuktu was over a thousand years after Greek and Roman conquest.
By the time colonial slavery was rampant Egypt had already been re-conquered by the Islamic empires.
>>63914774
Most blacks are raised from birth in areas that heavily promote this kind of activity, which is why it's hard for the educated well adjusted black people to escape this stereotype. It's even harder now with people saying "if you don't agree that we should act like this you're racist" which only hurts their credibility even more but people are afraid to speak up about it.
>>63914155
>trying to get into rap
>posts tons of shitty rappers
Dude you're not gonna get into it like that, here use this.
>picks an actor out of a group of mostly Southern, inner-city trap musicians
What were you expecting OP?
>>63915181
They actually say it like that at one point in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. But yeah, the k in knife was pronounced too, and the e at the end I imagine too. Plus before that vowel shift I talked about the vowel in the middle was different. Going by the wiki page it would have been pronounced k-neef-eh or something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift
And yeah, this happened after 1100 so every word in that image I posted for middle English the vowels sound nothing like the modern vowels we use for those words.
>>63915216
SO LETS CELEBRATE THE LIIIIFE OF TIMBUKTU
>>63914155
>The majority like them sound like that incomprehensible character from The Wire
Who? Omar?
>>63915299
This. These are essential OP.
>>63915299
yeah le illmatic only XDDDDDD us le deep sophisticated intellectuals XDD :D :D: :)) :) only le listen to le conscious hip hop XDD :)) XDDD
>>63915354
How can people know how certain words were pronounced 1000 years ago when no one from that time is alive today?
It's all just speculation I guess.
>>63915413
JUMP ROPE NECKLACE
HULA HOOP CHAIN
>>63915413
Anyone knows is that Super Saiyan trap project good? They have like 4 mixtapes under that name or something
>>63915523
there are references to phonetic pronunciation, going by similar languages, passed down vernacular, etc.
Connor?
Stop afro-shaming shitlord the white man invented grammar and prononciation to keep a brother down.
>>63915523
>>63915617
There's another trick I've read about that linguists use. They look for misspellings.
When people misspell things, they often do so phonetically, so the way a word is misspelled gives you clues as to how it's pronounced relative to others.
>>63915523
Kind of. It's comparison between various languages along with text from the period and I'm sure there's quite a bit of text covering pronunciation and grammar and such like we have dictionaries and other books. It's not really that different from any other science (if you want to call it science since it's generally considered a "soft" science) where many people will ask "well how do you know what things were like thousands of years ago" just because they're not familiar with the "science".
But there is still stuff we don't know. I'm pretty sure there's a lack of info on the actual pronunciation of Latin for instance even though we have tons of stuff about the written language. So while it's not blind guessing it isn't 100% concretely known either.
And Proto Indo European has basically no records so it's all basically guesswork based on comparing the decedents of the language and could be completely wrong for all we know. The further back you go the less you're going to find to go off of.
Linear A is another thing that we basically know nothing about other than it was a writing system. Egyptian hieroglyphics was another thing that we knew basically nothing about until the Rosetta Stone was found.
ITT white people try to understand black culture
>>63915526
>>63915550
Hey where'd my post go.
>>63915753
janitor only has a 20oz cup and thought you were viral marketing
But I'd fight if a nigga said that I talk white
And both my parents was black
But they saw it fit that I talk right
>>63915671
>Linear A
had to look this up tbqh
>>63915299
Every single one of these albums is trash
>>63915724
I understand black culture just fine, which is why I don't like it.
The only way anybody could possibly like black culture is if they don't think very hard about it
>>63915779
>both my parents was black
Should be "were"
How are people able to read this?
>>63915782
I love languages so I read about this kind of shit for fun. You should look up Basque too. Not too much is known about it but it's thought to be the only remnants of the paleolithic languages spoken in the Iberian peninsula.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suK34prc56o
The accent here sounds a lot like Spanish. Might be interference from Spanish since he probably also speaks it but could also be that that the way it sounds was originally from Basque and Spanish picked it up later.
Another interesting language related thing is that Japanese (or rather Japonic languages as there's apparently some islands with supposedly different but related languages) and Korean have no known related languages. Though I've read some stuff theorizing that Japanese is related to Altaic languages (like Turkish) somehow. Seems like some people also think Japanese and Korean are related. But no concrete proof.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_Japonic_languages
>>63915892
that's the point.
I just like lines where rappers comment on the fact of most of them not adhering to grammar.
Why do they sound like chipmunks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyhLtWcfMHs
>>63915666
That's cool as fuck.
>>63916001
>pitching the beat
kill me
>>63915940
Japanese and Korean are like 90% identical when it comes to grammar yet the pronunciation is like 100% different. It makes no sense.
>>63915940
post your RYM
>>63916080
I don't really rate too much stuff on RYM. Why do you ask anyway? I could post my last.fm.
>>63916114
>Why do you ask anyway?
Because /mu/ bases opinions on whether you have similar artists on LFM/RYM.
>>63916114
Post your last.fm then, I wanna be friends
>>63916205
I don't really do much social stuff on there but okay
http://www.last.fm/user/Sakonosolo
>>63914497
>And ebonics (or AAVE) is an actually recognized dialect of English
lol
>>63914155
listen to
Kendrick, Schoolboy Q, YG, J. Cole, Chance the rapper
all speak English for the most part
Rakim, Tupac, B.I.G. immortal technique, nas, Eminem, n.w.a.
Go back to actual rap and judge the lyricism then. New age 'rap' is just electric music with a terrible illiterate degenerates rapping about how great they are. New age hip hop is pop, not rap.
>>63916237
Thanks, I might add you if I remember
>>63916387
>actual rap
this term literally means "the rap I enjoy". also reddit, leave
>>63916364
GR I NO YU WAN DIS DIII
>>63914774
Got to "Keep It Real"
>>63914293
This bullshit is why i can't fully accept these fuckheads.
>>63916364
>kendrick
>LET ME AXE YOU A QUESTION
>>63916588
CELEBRATE FEBRUARY LIKE IT'S MY B-DAY
OR EAT WATERMELON,CHICKEN AND KOOL-AID ON WEEKDAYS
>>63915998
He's saying that his parents taught him to "talk right" but he doesn't "talk right"
He either doesn't know how to talk right or he's pretending to speak AAVE for rap credit
Basically what Iggy Azalea does
>>63916588
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=ask
>Modern dialectal ax is as old as Old English acsian and was an accepted literary variant until c. 1600.
>>63914634
>>63914774
>most rappers cannot escape the thug mentality and Ebonics they desperately crave
>They have all the money in the world, why would they still associate themselves with gangs and that thug life ****?
Because it's cool, or rather, a lot of people think it looks cool , is cool. there is also this alpha male shit that comes into play, as well as the usually large social group that many of these artists are a part of, imagine if one of your friends, who used to be a smart , square-no drug or alcohol kind of guy, and he went to college and came back a stoner... wouldn't you be taken aback and kind of let down? It's almost the same thing for some of these rappers in reverse, all of a sudden they get radio/tv play and some money, and now they don't come back, or act/dress different? They would be resented and they would become an outcast from their hometown or neighborhood, from where they grew up, sometimes this is all they had really, so I can sort of understand why they wouldn't want to lose this.
>>63916664
Kind of.
Black people are slowly trying to be more white, but at the same time they literally are afraid of getting made fun of for acting like it.
Atleast it's not as stupid as pigment bullshit though.
Black people are weird.
>>63916679
It doesn't matter how it was, no one speaks in the fucking Shakespearean English today.
The fact is that niggers can't speak properly.
>>63916863
Speaking "properly" is all relative. English has tons and tons of dialects, AAVE being one of them. The globalization of British and American English just made them the "standard" dialects. Other dialects aren't wrong anymore than modern English is wrong because it's not the same as old English.
>>63916984
Ebonics is not proper, it never will be.
>>63917015
Neither is American English.
>>63917028
Neither is British English.
>>63917015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_Vernacular_English
I'm sure you know more than the people who study the language anon.
>>63917043
Starvin' Marvin throat-clicks are more 'proper' than English.
>>63917057
It's literally just slang.
It means nothing.
It's not valid.
Everything blacks do is just special to liberals.
>>63916751
Trust me when I say, we don't wanna be more white. And speaking standard English is not white
>>63917141
>Trust me when I say, we don't wanna be more white.
Everything in current culture says otherwise.
>>63917129
>It's literally just slang.
If you would read the page you would know you're wrong as AAVE has consistent rules no different than any other language. Just because you say it isn't an actual dialect doesn't mean anything when trying to argue with objective facts found by studying the dialect.
>>63917129
I mean I think it's silly too, but you could say those things about any dialect or language.
>>63917183
What the fuck do you know about Black culture?
You know what you see online. Not what people who live and breathe it say.
>>63917194
>If you would read the page
Oh I read it.
Nothing on that page validates it in any way.
>with objective facts found by studying the dialect.
Like what exactly?
>>63914155
Music is entertainment, just like movies and video games. It kind of irritates me when people bash hip hop artists for not being lyrical enough.
I listen to music for enjoyment, not to analyze their lyricism. Just my taste I guess. I'd go read some poetry or find some angsty underground rebellious artist to listen to. I love "ignorant rap", simply because it's fun to listen to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-5F_7DwPpo
Do white people not care about English or what?
the question here tho is
>Why is Drake the only one that can speak a piece of proper English and sound completely intelligible at times?
>>63917254
Blacks are trying to be more civilized i.e white.
But at the same time can't let go of MUH CULTURE.
Everything about them is an embarrassing farce.
>>63917316
>drake is the only rapper this anon knows of that is intelligible
LMAO, opinion about everything discarded
"SPIRITUAL MIRACLE INDIVIDUAL CRIMINAL
FUCK THE GOVERNMENT, REAL HIP HOP. UNDERGROUND RAP. FUCK THE MAINSTREAM"
Papa is right, these are the worst kind of people. Enjoy the music
>>63917263
>Like what exactly?
Like the stuff on that page.
>There is near uniformity of AAVE grammar, despite its vast geographic spread.[23]
>Linguists maintain that there is nothing intrinsically "wrong" or "sloppy" about AAVE as a language variety since, like all dialects, AAVE shows consistent internal logic and grammatical complexity, and is used naturally to express thoughts and ideas.[78] Other attitudes about AAVE are less positive; since AAVE deviates from the standard, its use is commonly misinterpreted as a sign of ignorance, laziness, or both.[79][80] Perhaps because of this attitude (as well as similar attitudes among white and other Americans), most speakers of AAVE are bidialectal, being able to speak with a more General American accent as well as AAVE. Such linguistic adaptation in different environments is called code-switching[81][82]—though Linnes (1998) argues that the situation is actually one of diglossia:[83] each dialect, or code, is applied in different settings.
I'm not going to quote the entire page but the Defining Features part of the page explains the uniform features of phonology and grammar and how it differs from standard English.
>>63917340
I think he meant unintelligible.
Which I'd agree with because it took me a few listens to figure out I KNOW WHEN THAT HOTLINE BLING
>>63915137
A U T I S M
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>So far I've listened to the following rappers: Young Thug, Rick Ross, Gucci Mane, Desiigner, Waka Flocka Flame, Chief Keef, Kanye West, Drake, PeeWee Longway, Migos, Future, Young Scooter, Travis Scott, Lil Durk, Kevin Gates and some other people.
lol wut. This is like trying to get into anime and watching a bunch of kawaii garbage.
>>63917388
don't try to fit in , fag
>>63917351
>AAVE shows consistent internal logic and grammatical complexity,
>since AAVE deviates from the standard,
>Perhaps because of this attitude (as well as similar attitudes among white and other Americans)
Yeah, definitely not a pile of contradicting bullshit written by some art-school lib.
>>63916237
are you also this poster >>63914497
>>63917254
I watched The Wire and interacted with enough niggers online to know how they are.
>>63917417
I'm not seeing what is contradicting about that. The dialect has its own rules that differ from standard English. And because it differs from standard English people (like you) think it's just slang and speaking "wrong" when it's no different from any other dialect in English or in other languages. And those "art-school libs" are a professor at the University of Massachusetts and a professor at the University of Texas.
>>63917475
Yeah
>>63915642
sup reddit
>>63917506
>I watched The Wire
>gay drug-dealer with a scar and a shotgun fucking bottom slutz
what a true depiction
>Why is Drake the only one that can speak a piece of proper English and sound completely intelligible at times?
Outside of Kanye and Drake, pretty much all those guys grew up in bad, primarily-black Southern neighborhoods, with dialects very different from standard American English. You see the same thing in other places.
Like Scotland. I mean watch this shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_uNGdpa4c
>>63917542
>AAVE shows consistent internal logic and grammatical complexity,
it does not.
>its use is commonly misinterpreted as a sign of ignorance, laziness, or both.
Yay, subjective politics in my "objective" facts.
>as similar attitudes among white and other Americans)
And to finish off with confirming the bias and voiding all "value" this "article" has.
>>63917340
But really, compare this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTeZj19pAYE
with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-EHX0M7I-s
or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWi4MK2ojGA
or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ELPe947TZk
He definitely is right.
This whole threads /pol/ bait and your taking it in the ass
>>63917653
Do people forget that his first job was being an actor? Of course he can speak somewhat eloquently.
>>63917641
>it does not.
If you would read the page you would see it does.
>And to finish off with confirming the bias and voiding all "value" this "article" has.
Are you denying that "ebonics" is seen by white people are speaking "wrong"? I mean you're even trying to make this argument. I don't know if you're white or not though.
You are literally arguing with professionals on the subject because of of your own preconceptions. Might as well argue against evolution like a sheltered Christian. Sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling isn't a replacement for facts.
>>63917653
CHERRY PICKING
>>63917407
I got into anime by watching Code Geass and K-On!, so...
>>63917588
Omar is based on a REAL person.
>>63914155
Listen to IGGY AZALEA & NICKI MINAJ, theyre the queens!
>>63917720
>you would see it does.
How?
>Are you denying that "ebonics" is seen by white people are speaking "wrong"?
No, but that statement does not belong in a creo article or discussion.
>You are literally arguing with professionals
No I'm arguing with some random person on /mu/ citing wikipedia articles.
>You are literally arguing with professionals
Yeah, getting flustered and throwing out another irrelevant statement and assumption definitely helps your argument.
>Sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling isn't a replacement for facts.
And neither is citing a Wikipedia article over and over again.
>>63917593
ITS SHITE BEING SCOTTISH
>>63917817
>Might as well argue against evolution like a sheltered Christian.
Yeah, getting[...]*
>>63917817
Is an article from Stanford enough for you, anon?
http://web.stanford.edu/~zwicky/aave-is-not-se-with-mistakes.pdf
Or is it on the same level as Wikipedia? I mean you've already said you know more than university professors.
![5021392924298[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/A8MQwLq.jpg "5021392924298[1].jpg")
listen to more lyrically oriented artists. they are out there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTxDEu1mw68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at1NsedwGqM
>>63917859
There's a lot of false statements in there so not really.
And a lot of is just hollow exposition.
Did you just google creo articles and hope some .edu link popped up?
>>63917977
You should tell me your name so I can look forward to seeing your article about how black people are speaking English wrong in a scholarly journal.
>>63918025
It'll be finished just in time for you to have an actual argument.
>>63918025
but the sjw thought police won't let him until Trump builds the wall anon
>>63917886
Busdriver should collab with Death Grips.
No one's going to simply point out that Drake is Canadian?
>>63918122
Canada isn't real.
>>63914155
>implying English is the only lenguage in the world
>>>/pol/
r>>63918071
That'd be awful.
>>63918061
Fuck off, child.
>>63914417
>I wanna whole grammy, I wanna hit yo nanny
People pay money to hear these things
>>63918606
I SHOP SO MUCH I CAN SPEAK ITALIAN
>>63918606
What's with niggers and their obsession with Grammys? Everyone from Kanye to Future to Young Thug thinks Grammys mean shit and want them.
>>63918638
S T A T U S
That's why fashion is huge in hip-hop as well.
>>63914155
>Young Thug, Rick Ross, Gucci Mane, Desiigner, Waka Flocka Flame, Chief Keef, Kanye West, Drake, PeeWee Longway, Migos, Future, Young Scooter, Travis Scott, Lil Durk, Kevin Gates and some other people.
>no old school
>>63914155
wtf are you talking about? you are seriously autistic for typing all that out.
>>63914774
BITCH U KNOW ITS LIL BOAT
>>63914774
Sometimes they'll turn it around and say somethinf like "POLITICIANS BE ROBBIN YO ASS EVERY DAY AND Y'ALL IN AN UPROAR ABOUT A NIGGA STEALING CIGARETTES? BAKA"
I forgot where I saw that, but it's one of the stupidest ways of justifying ghetto culture
>>63918662
gtfo my 4chan nigger
OP, you have almost exclusively been listening to a specific subgenre of hip hop known as ignorant rap. Part of the appeal of these dudes persona is precisely that they sound all ebonical and shit.
All you have to do is listen to other subgenres of hip hop and you will see that many rappers are very articulate.
tldr billy woods milo etc
>>63918888
>milo
>example of quality
no
>>63915817
found the rampant nigger
>>63918888
drake isnt ignorant !
>>63916387
scrotted this for cringe threads tbf
>>63918920
example of being articulate in interviews
http://kindaneat.net/milo-2/
but since you are asking, unrelatedly I do think his music can be quite good
>>63918025
I'm actually impressed you were that patient trying to explain to that guy how AAVE isn't just wrong standard American. People won't accept it because it's one of the only ways they can try to be scientifically racist. Good effort though anon.
t. linguistics major
>>63920098
>it's one of the only ways they can try to be scientifically racist
Not true, there are many ways to be scientifically racist.
>>63914155
>listening to talking niggers
really anon?
>>63914549
Wow. I was going to call OP a big-time fedora boy but you stopped me dead in my tracks. You truly are the king.
ITT: racism and latent racism
>>63922238
Wow, did you teleport here from 2003? The last time I heard this argument I was in third grade.
>>63915137
Wew lad...
>>63914249
jfc you can write poetry in AAVE you fucking pleb
