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What does /mu/ think of vaporwave?
Vaporwave is D E A D
>>63867460
Define it. What are the musical characteristics. Be as specific and detailed as you can be please! I have never understood what it means as a style of music and would like an enthusiast or professional to explain it to me fully.
>>63867650
You take a song, slow it down, and make it sound like it's from a church vhs.
>>63867650
why do other people need to tell you what it is?
listen to it yourself and figure it out, it's pretty easy to understand you simpleton
cuk
Is Vaporwave the flagship genre of /mu/? Every time I look on the frontpage, there's a thread about it.
oversaturated, but pretty okay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM
The other thread died without a satisfactory increase in stats.
https://nmusic18.bandcamp.com/
>>63869412
Wassup
ultrawav.bandcamp.com
Shil like a vil fuk it id rather do this than "Buy Real Marketing"
worst meme ever desu. I'm not sure how this meme genre became so big, I remember back when Macintosh Plus came out and barely anybody talked about it and now I see people with fuckin vaporwave cover photos and everybody talking about A E S T H E T I C S. fmsu senpai
A friend showed me it in like 2010 i found it interesting that most of the recordings being slowed down were heavily midi sequenced.
>>63868069
It was at one point, it was practically half invented by mew. Now it's just overtaken by normies.
>>63867460
Here are a list of songs that should be used for sampling in vaporware songs in the future.
Love at First Night - Kim Hart
Sticky Music - Sandii & the Sunsetz
In Your Car - The Dugites
Walls - Icehouse
The Space Between - Roxy Music
Avalon - Roxy Music
The Main Thing - Roxy Music
Take a Chance With Me - Roxy Music
O.C.O.E (Official Cat of the Eighties) - Pages
I'm Free (Heaven Helps the Man) - Kenny Loggins
Right Next Door (Because of Me) - Robert Cray
Go Insane - Lindsey Buckingham
Should've Known Better - Richard Marx
Fame - Irene Cara
Flashdance...What a Feeling - Irene Cara
Why Me? - Irene Cara
I like it.
Nostalgic aesthetic.
It spawned a bunch of subgenres (mallsoft being one of them).
I like memes so I like meme music.
>>63867650
You know the music in the background of those 90s instructional VHS tapes on how to use the internet?
That.
>>63872602
What subgenres has vaporwave spawned besides mallsoft, seapunk, and witch house?
>>63872613
I dunno, but I'm sure there are some.
>>63867460
I love it, but there is one problem. Because its really easy to make music that can be called Vapourwave theres so much shit out there, and it mixes in with the good stuff.
made a first try out album yesterday, let me know what u guys think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7va5faeaNA
>>63872613
futurefunk, which is the best one
and hardvapor which is basically sample-based gabber with russian letters
http://dave-roland.bandcamp.com/track/vapordave
>>63872613
Witch House and Seapunk actually came BEFORE vaporwave.
Ocean Grunge however is a subgenre of vaporwave
>>63872778
Take a listen at my future funk https://clyp.it/jx2zsnxo
>>63872613
Hard vapour, chillwave, future funk, vaportrap, synthwave, mallsoft, the list goes on
>>63867650
It has no strict musical rules per se. One can use any form of music but it is the strong aesthetic and common imagery that links vaporwave artists into one genre. This aesthetic is a one of shallow 80s consumerism, specifically focused on Japan which was a country that was a strong economic and cultural influence in this period. The aesthetic is not merely a presentation of these themes, but an exaggeration and distortion of them to give slightly uncanny feeling. It is supposed to be looking back at this dead period if history, with its abandoned malls, and feeling perturbed and nostalgic about all that was lost forever, in all its shallow disposability, much like the sampled songs themselves.
That is not to say it is without tropes. It generally, sounds like and samples cheesy 80s elevator soul/funk/smooth jazz with multiple layers of effects such as treble reducing, heavy use of effects that make the music faded and ethereal. In addition looping and chopping are common.
>>63872962
Also, there are waves of vaporwave, the first being mostly based on plunderphonics, the second based on 80s advertisements and the third based on evoking a feel of nostalgia and eeriness using original music and samples. Since the MTV rebranding that's based on the seapunk and vaporvawe a e s t h e t i c s, it has entered the mainstream and became filled with emulations of the first and second waves of vaporwave, resulting in a rejection of the original principles of vaporwave, resulting in hardvapour, lead by non other than HKE (of 2814 fame), with the "vaporwave is dead" flag, probably caused by the fear that vapowave will become stagnant, and since it is a mostly experimental genre, it will become effectively dead
love it
i like it because they recycle old 80s and 90s shit and it has an amazing vibe to it
>>63872902
>synthwave
>subgenre of vaporwave
how retarded do you have to be to think that a 30 year old genre can be derived from a millenial trend?
>>63873020
>>63872962
great insights, I will add that vaporwave is in my opinion more than just a genre, and in all probability will be the defining art movement of our generation.
Those who grew up in the 80´s/90´s grew up in a world where everybody believed capitalism will buy everyone happiness over time. Now we are older and realize that these were all empty ideals wich are symbolized by the core vaporwave aesthetic, the empty mall.
I hope that vaporwave will not collapse on itself and manages to stay out of the mainstream for a while so that it may transform to a vast art form.
>>63873077
>everybody
shit no dude, did you miss out on all the counterculture from that time? I mean sure communism was basically a joke then but capitalism sure as hell wasn't seen as a panacea by the general public.
>>63873077
I must add that vaporwave is also not dependent on this subjective interpretation of its philosophy, the great strength of vaporwave is ofcourse its aesthetics. Thats why vaporwave will not only save music, but also visual art and film.
>>63873020
>>63873077
Favourite vaporwave you guys have listened to recently? Pic related for me
>>63873109
unironic 80s/90s aesthetics >>>>> ironic 80s/90s aesthetics.
>>63873075
Synthwave is a microgenre that takes the aesthetics from synthpop, the one you're talking about, and it is a 10s trend, and it takes ideas and concepts from vaporwave. Know your shit or kill yourself, senpai
>>63873095
yeah I missed out, because I was too young to understand. I mean I listened to nirvana and all this other alternative stuff, but had no idea what the songs were saying. I got conscious about the world in the early 2000s.
When I think of the 90s we just wanted to get these dank ass videogames and explore the old internet, our parents constantly telling us that we can be everything we want to be.
>>63873143
Dude, synthwave was already a word back in the 80s. You just read the inaccurate wikipedia entry and called it a day.
Know your shit or kill yourself, senpai.
>>63873113
新しい日の誕生
It's far from new, but i listen to it fairly frequentlqy
>>63873188
Dude, do you think they called baroque pop 'baroque pop' in the 60s? It doesn't matter the name back then, make it easier and kill yourself, fampai
>>63873113
I think the new day album is one of the most exciting ones.
also some of internet club´s tracks are amazing as well
>>63873215
Dude, synthwave revivalism started in the mid-2000s, before witch house (which preceded vaporwave) was even a thing, it's a separate trend.
>>63873109
Think of all the movies influenced by 80s aesthetics just from the past year, Turbo Kid, Kung Fury, Mad Max: Fury Road, and so on. The vapor is saving mainstream art already
>>63873244
I'll accept that. But you can't deny that it's taking ideas from vaporwave and future funk right now
>>63873251
vaporwave is a SYMPTOM of 80s revivalism, not its source.
>>63873196
Thanks will definitely check it out
>>63873231
Internet club are fun. I have only listened to pic related tho
>>63873280
Right now yeah but you'd have to ask Com Truise who was the first recent synthwave producer to include warped cassette effects in his sound where he got his idea from, cause that's where all the chillwave guys are taking inspo.
GLAM VAPOR WHEN?
I want something wild, fun and radical, not just chill and pretty
>>63873289
That's why I said 'the vapor' and not vaporwave. I can't help but relate vapor to the 80s revivalism, maybe because we're trying to do the 80s right this time? As if we're just taking the spirit of that decade and not it's values, we're just breathing the vapor
>>63873314
God i want to back to a time with pussy hair
>>63873337
I want fluffy hairdos to come back
>>63873337
>>63873363
pls no
>>63867460
I thought the genre was basically spawned/promoted from /mu/
>>63873379
Grow up faggot
>>63873113
Mind was completely blown when I first heard this
>>63873295
listen to redefining the workspace, especially system focus is great
>>63873382
no, from tumblr and bandcamp actually.
Jesus Christ, is Vaporwave really so old that we've already got newfags entertain misconceptions about it?
>>63873544
5-6 years, that's the internet for you
>>63873409
Well, I have to say, i find the idea of rating vaporwave stupid as fuck, but, this is pretty fucking good
>>63874218
I've been posting this album here and there since it came out and you're the absolute first one to even notice it, thanks man. I don't get why /mu/ just flat out ignores it and then bitch about vaporwave being uncreative etc
Vapormetal is the new big meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfkH8u-Ir8
>>63867460
Was cool for a while but now is took over by "A E S T H E T I C" spamming teenager redditors
there are a few good albums though e.g. Far Side Virtual
>>63874449
>vapormetal
ew
>>63874287
That's rather sad, but it's the /mu/ cycle of life. Something good comes to our hands, we over use it, deem as meme and then throw it away and shame whoever mentions it again.
>>63874582
Except in this case /mu/ never gave a fuck about it, although this album has insane meme potential with numerous crazy screwed up vocals and weebcore samples
>>63873143
man synthwave is earlier than vaporwave
i hate it, i see people listen to it "ironically". fuck that noise.
i prefer synthwave
>>63874449
That's just shitty djent with a vaporwave style image.
>>63874745
the original song was some shitty djent/IDM he made, he's been vaporwave remixing songs from his previous albums
This is the best Vaporwave album, I know that much
>>63874287
I ignore anyone that rates it or Vaporrer. I listened to some of that album and felt that, other than being creative with samples, it was a very boring, soulless album.
>>63874792
The best on the t r a p i n f l u e n c e d side of vaporwave I'd say
I'm interested in the genre, but I haven't heard much I like. Whenever I listen to it I think I'd rather listen to com truise.
>>63874825
I understand how you could not enjoy it at all, but i'm interested to hear why you find it soulless
Most people who rip on this kind of music never take the time to find something they like. They just listen to the first two songs from floral shoppe and dismiss it as a meme. Theres plenty of better stuff out there...
One example of a quality vaporwave album would be Virtual Dream Plaza. Colossal ambient album over 16 hours long, which just blew me away. I have been listening to songs off it for a long time now and its just simply breathtaking.
https://telepathtelepath.bandcamp.com/album/--32
I think a lot of people have issues with the name "vaporwave" and just dismiss it as a silly post ironic meme, when in reality its just like every other genre with no black and white definition of what fits inside it.
For me it has a very emotional quality, I was born in 1992 so I was basically raised by the internet. Now that im an "adult" vaporwave has a very sorrowful nostalgic sound that I really enjoy.
>>63874827
I can give you that, since vaporwave is so wide-ranging. I really think Mana Pool just accomplishes the goal of vaporwave really well. Pure vibe
>>63874969
yea, plus you can kinda dance to it which is cool because that means I can play it at parties and normies will dance with that slight "is it just me or this shit is fucking weird" concerned face
>>63875005
Kek but you and I know they won't say shit. They never say shit. Do you DJ a lot?
>>63874840
>I'd rather listen to com truise.
>>63874840
Com truise is shit anon
>>63875016
Not really, just at friends parties and I always claim the after 2 am slot where everyone is too shitfaced to care if I play fucking ISIS theme song over shitty trap beats
>>63874882
thanks for this post.
keep the thread alive.
I felt the same when a friend told me about vaporwave around 2012, I looked it up once and then dismissed it as some sample based meme, but now I suddenly all these great new albums are coming out and it appears vaporwave is here to stay.
Along with the music the aesthetic is also becoming less ironic and altogether the vibe is just getting a lot more sophisticated.
vaporwave, seapunk all that is dead
>>63875069
is that a real album? google can't find it
I wish some of vaporwaves releases were shorter and I wish some other were more polished/fleshed out. This makes it hard to go through with/appreciate a lot of them.
However when it works like >>63873409 the genre makes me very happy.
>>63875126
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i7va5faeaNA
Fuck google, fo
>>63875186
thanks, giving it a listen
>>63875052
ah gotcha, I work at my college radio station and sometimes at functions at bars I'll just be like fuck it and play some fuckin Carpenter Brut or Machine Girl, people usually just don't give a fuck or assume it's popular
>>63875186
thanks man this sounds fun
>>63875234
thats cool, I wish more DJs stopped caring about trying to please the most people and just play what they really feel is appropriate for the situation. chances are people will enjoy it more than just hearing some tune for the 15th time that week even if they are absolute plebs
>>63875209
I made it yesterday just to try to get the sound.
>>63875299
agreed. It sucks though because honestly a lot of times they really do just wanna hear the song they've heard 30 times a week. It's damn shame because there's so much music in the world and now that it's all right our fingertips, at the click of a button, it's like the masses are more blind to it than they've ever been. One night I got 12 recommendations to play Hotline Bling.
12
>>63875069
You tricked us, that's your own album, fampai! 15 views? Nice one
>>63872604
This nigga.
>>63875327
certainly feels unpolished, that being said the concept is cool and cracks me up for some reason. can definitely feel the boring office vibe, good job
fav track : slowday@theoffice
>>63875370
haha yes I did
There are actually only 2 real songs on there, the rest is filler, can you tell wich ones?
>>63867460
a meme
>>63874792
not a fan of this album desu
>>63875462
what did you not like about it? Was it too simple?
>>63875385
Thanks
Yeah its very unfinished. I am waiting for a drum machine, when it arrives Im gonna try seriously to make original vaporwave. But I thought I just share this cause it has some pretty decent moments. and cause meme magic
>>63875349
when a normie insists you play his favorite shitty banger cut the lowfreqs right when the bass drops, that'll teach 'em
>>63875496
lol I'm definitely gonna do that sometime outside my job. I'll just snap
>>63867650
aesthetic=meme
>>63873469
Working in an office made me appreciate Internet Club. Redefining and WEBINAR are GOAT corporate vaporwave
>>63875428
What is lunchbreak?
Started out as a serious concept, became a joke, became a meme, revived itself and is now something resembling a serious thing again.
People who still think the genre is all about Macintosh Plus are so far behind they think heelies are still cool.
i don't even know what it is please explain it to me /mu/ (without sending me youtube links)
>>63875698
Started out as slowing down and chopping up music with a late 80's early 90's aesthetic and a lot of nostalgia. Also occasionally includes albums that are conceptually about subjects like capitalism, spiritualism and the virtual world.
I am probably so, so far off.
>>63867779
s t o p
>>63875690
B-But I like heelies.
>>63875428
Just finished it, I will say lunchbreak and anotherday
>>63875822
Didn't you hear? Those will destroy your skeleton!
>>63875680
just a sample
slowtraffic and anotherday are original compositions u can hear the diffrence in production i think.
I don´t know if you´re the person commenting about bandcamp, but yeah I might make a bandcamp if I make some more
>>63875870
Yeah, I am haha
It won't cost you anything, or maybe a soundcloud
>>63867460
Is a nice meme
>>63873041
>>63875711
Isn't that an infringement to some copyright laws? I'm interested into do that kind of shit but I want to know if I would be able to upload it without problem
>>63876459
As long as it is heavily modified, you should have no problem.
>>63876479
Some examples senpai?
>>63876479
Also as long as you don't make people pay for it or don't generate any kind of money with it, the owner would have to be a real pain in the balls to claim copyright infringement
>>63876495
リサフランク420 / 現代のコンピュー
It's just diana ross' it's your move looped and slowed down and also the most famous vaporwave track.
>>63876502
Well you got me there
>>63876556
>>63876562
Ive listened it before, somebody know if the author ever had some law problem or made profit with it?
>>63876601
Not that I know. It would be best if you contact a label like dream catalogue or so. just ask them
https://soundcloud.com/datphoenixbrown/sets/sst001
vaporpunk
>>63877329
>vaporpunk
Vaporwave is already punk, chap
>>63867460
now that its a normie thing its cringe
>>63869660
if you recorded that to a tape and then left it in the sun for a week and then put more effects on it it could be neat. as it stands it's just some average synth stuff put together with presets. vocals samples sound good but they're the only thing holding it together and when they're gone it sounds clean in a bad way. keep at it though
>>63877471
using "cringe" as an adjective is normie as fuck.
I like Future Funk more
>>63873409
love the vibrato anime screams
I'm picky about the Vaporwave traps I like with my noise sensitivity issues. But I really love this album.
I've became a fan of relaxed Vaportrap music like 「fluence」 and Blank Banshee.
>>63877329
this is like youtube poop punk. good on you for trying something new i guess
>>63877471
it's been normie since dream catalog and tumblr killed it
If you avoid the meme side of the genre, there's actually a lot of worthwhile material worth hearing. Pic related is a fine example of doing the genre right, while also taking risks, keeping it original and fresh.
>>63878489
thanks for this, sounds pretty good
THE ACTUAL SOURCE OF VAPORWAVE IS "EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE"
It's a site that archives all kinds of weird and quaint VHS videos from the early 90s.
in the late 2000s they released two feature-length films, the latter having a strong occult vibe to it, which probably inspired Witch House a lot (not sure how much). But the former ended with a very lengthy and silly instructional video about the internet.
That shit was all over livestream in the late 2000s, right when he youtube poop format was at its height, and I'm 100% sure that this is what inspired Eccojams and the first vaporwave projects.
>>63872613
>witch house came out of vaporwave
pls stop my sides can only take so much
>>63867460
its like chill wave for trannys
>>63872778
if you believe that, you probably are trying to sound cool. which is lame/ dont lame out. future funk is also a lie and has been in terminology for like 30 years so fuck off in a hole
Fuck Vaporshit. Chillwave is where is at 2bqh. ridin dat 2 0 0 9 chillwave
>>63875752
Why? It's the best vaporwave album of last year.
>>63867460
I take all the criticism and all the hate on board. But I fucking love it and I can't explain why.
ECO VIRTUAL - Atmospheres 2 is a masterpiece
>>63878644
I also thought DXM and robotripping had a heavy tine in to vaporwave.
ITT: Comfy af vidya songs that evoke the feeling of being in an elementary school computer lab, and may deserve a Vaporwave remix of some kind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nkDXUq9wEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpNizOzXXUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6k4c8ECt3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8At7BAYrSSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDbBMh71J38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx-DJM274-Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjb2uQ8ARik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgEOsfeLVac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVtk5Vda6Aw
Can someone do a Vaporwave remix of these maybe?
>>63867460
>>63867500
Vaporwave has just morphed back into Ambient Music
nothing wrong with that though
>>63879277
Fuck off HKE
>>63867650
IMO Vaporwave is a sampling subgenre.
>>63879274
>Not collision chaos good future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi3gGwuA4Qk
The best song in the whole franchise
>>63879287
>its bad because its popular
I dont even like HKE by itself but 2814 is fucking amazing
Imo what separates Vaporwave from all the things people claim it "ripped off" or "derives from" is the aesthetic. And I think it's pretty new an idea to have a music that exists on the aesthetic level more prominently than the sonic level.
What I find more interesting is the aesthetic seems to alter how I listen to the music. I can't imagine some of the Vaporwave albums without their front covers imprinted in my mind as I listen. It's an interesting experiment on how aesthetic can warp music.
>>63878413
it was normie since macintosh plus and 4chan killed it imo
>>63879480
It's not normie, it's post-romanticist
>>63867460
It makes me feel like I'm walking around a toys r us in 1997 while feeling sad.
>>63878489
well whats the fucking name of pic related then
I dont speak nintendo
>>63873337
Go to asia
>>63873409
It even made an end-of-year list compiled by some, IIRC, pretty well-respected music magazine
>>63878943
You mean tumblrwave? :^)
>>63879287
>>63879277
I don't get the appeal of it
It's just random noises and bland atmospheric music with no insturments
>>63880106
If you think there aren't any instruments then you're deaf
Here are a list of songs that should be used for sampling in vaporware songs in the future.
Love at First Night - Kim Hart
Sticky Music - Sandii & the Sunsetz
In Your Car - The Dugites
Walls - Icehouse
The Space Between - Roxy Music
Avalon - Roxy Music
The Main Thing - Roxy Music
Take a Chance With Me - Roxy Music
O.C.O.E (Official Cat of the Eighties) - Pages
I'm Free (Heaven Helps the Man) - Kenny Loggins
Right Next Door (Because of Me) - Robert Cray
Go Insane - Lindsey Buckingham
Should've Known Better - Richard Marx
Fame - Irene Cara
Flashdance...What a Feeling - Irene Cara
Why Me? - Irene Cara
>>63872772
This was very good.
Can you recommend more like this? I really like your aesthetics!
This may sound odd but does anybody want to die in vaporwave? Everytime I view vaporwave art I feel a warm desire to die. Anybody else share this feel?
Loved it but it has been outplayed and is now being transformed into meme rap by niggers. Honestly.
>>63883775
does it feel good? its called nostalgia
you are actually longing for the time before you were born, when everything was a chillwave this is essential to vaporwave, the emptyness, non/existence wich is symbolized through the empty mall.
>>63873020
T H E R E I S N O W A V E T H E R E I S O N L Y T H E O C E A N
>>63884479
>you are actually longing for the time before you were born
personally vaporwave embodies the tone and atmosphere of the first ten years of my life
I like it because it reminds me of walking around shopping malls with my parents and watching late 80's/early-mid 90's toy commercials, only aware of the sights and sounds around me with none of the context
>>63873323
>>63873323
lmao what are you talking about man
>>63873544
that's not quite correct either
obviously albums were uploaded to bandcamp and the aesthetic imagery independently got big on tumblr but MUCH of the initial music discussion took place on here and reddit.
>>63867460
Youve been posting this thread for 7 years.
>>63884892
it might be the vision of today, percieved by the children of the past.
Love it
>>63872785
Oceangrunge is not vaporwave.
>>63867650
it's screwed and chopped 80's/90's music
can't believe it took 7 posts for somebody to say this
>>63875039
>com truise is THE shit
there, fixed it for you
>>63879819
>what is reverse image search
fucking newfags
It's OK. I like Future Funk more though.
>>63873409
this is actually pretty good, not cringe at all
stupid
late 90s/pre 9/11 Futurism is where it's at.
Y2K Aesthetic is the best
>>63890680
bubbles, metallics, and see-through tech
>>63872772
I think I like vaporwave but everytime I can instantly recognize the sample I'm just reminded i'm listening to a different song so maybe I actually don't like it. Thanks for reminding me Yellow Magic Orchestra exists though.
>>63867500
HARDVAPOUR KILLED IT
>>63867834
that's basically "chopped and screwed"
>>63867650
sloppy, almost satirical, production is it's main gimmick. Think "cheep" sounding.
>>63872962
I would argue that the 80s motif is not a characteristic of the genre. In vaporwave I see commentary on the internet, and also on the manufactured interactions and sensations found in modern America.
