What are your thoughts on Progressive Rock /mu/?
I dont see prog rock very often on this board.
More and more it becomes clearer that Tarkus is the crown jewel of prog, and, perhaps, all of music as well.
>>63836294
Yes, KC, and Genesis > ELP
Annoying music
anyone got a chart for getting into prog?
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>>63836294
I have a rotating list of profile pictures, but it's funny this happened to be on one side at the moment.
>>63836402
fuck forgot image and I meant wallpapers, tired today
My favorite genre
ELP is only good for their long songs like Tarkus and Karn Evil 9
>>63836378
honestly the rym top prog is actually really good for getting into prog
start with what is considered the classics.
Prog helped me expand my musical tastes and is probably the genre that jives with me the most
ELP in particular is close to my heart. Tarkus (song not the album), Trilogy, and Brain Salad Surgery are all 9/10s for me.
Prog has its fans here, but a lot of people find the whole scene and movement to be pompous and overblown, but to me that's part of the fun
to me, prog rock makes a person looks intelligent because that person listens to music beyond verse chorus verse chorus. except, is that all that prog rock means? i think its dumb
>>63836656
To me, prog is great because you get to hear a lot of cool things that don't come up in regular music often. Prog musicians are usually very skilled and know a lot about music theory. I'm also a big fan of 20 minute long cheesy "epics" about ridiculous concepts like an armadillo tank.
Prog is a lot more fun if you don't think of it as "an intelligent evolution of music" and more as "good old cheesy wank rock"
>>63836455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrzyd8R8YWs
>>63836294
It's definitely a fantastic album, but nowhere near the best prog album
That's Close to the Edge :^)
>>63836378
Just listen to Genesis or Yes to start with, it's relatively easy to get into and they have some of my personal favourite albums ever. I think there's a chart on the wiki if you want to use that
>>63836870
Was honestly thinking about that after I posted, why was Emerson such a keyboard god?
Also listening to this for the first time familia, fucking amazing
Why is italian prog so god damn amazing bros
>>63837027
666 was the album that got me into Prog rock.
My dad used to play The Four Horsemen a ton when i was growing up, stuck with me. Incredible album
Does anybody like Italian prog? Italy had a really unique prog sound in the 70s and I've been getting into stuff like PFM and Banco del Mutuo
This album in particular is fucking fantastic! I am blown away! When I close my eyes im taken to a beautiful grassy meadow watching the sunset with a classy Italian lady... I love it
>>63836511
Way too much Porcupine Tree on that list. Deeply upsetting
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>>63837082
Ayyyyyy! Melos is great too! The beginning of the first song brings me to an ethereal realm...
>>63837124
I havent seen the RYM list, dont tell me it ignores all their good pysch/pop influenced albums for the shit that is their prog metal years.
>>63836213
It's cancerous
>>63837090
yeah man, both Italian and French prog are amazing.
>>63837124
If Porcupine Tree isn't up your tree, then just ignore them. Lot of good stuff in that top 100 for sure.
>>63837146
I see what you mean, Melos is an incredible album IMO
>>63837210
I haven't listened to any French prog (unless prog metal counts lmao) Can you recommend me any that are like PFM?
>>63837194
It's mostly the prog metal stuff.
>>63837246
Listen to Magma right now
>>63837090
Arti E Mestieri has some god-tier drumming
>>63837246
Arachnoïd is good, imagine a very darker version of King Crimson.
Oh and obviously Magma if you haven't already.
Ange
Atoll
Clearlight
are also great bands
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>>63837325
Shit, I didn't know Magma was French. I thought they were german because everybody seems to think they're Nazis
I've only listened to their most famous album (mekanik destruktik kommando?) Is there other stuff good too? I quite like that album. It's oppressive as fuck
>>63837387
All of their albums are good, even Merci is good in places.
Just go through in release order, it's honestly worth it.
>>63836213
Muh Pink Floyds
If Muse is considered prog then Radiohead is punk
>>63837475
who is this aimed at?
>>63837475
Echoes is really good Floyd prog though
I should really listen to more Prog. At the very least I should finish listening to KC's and Yes' discography (though Yes has put out so much stuff and I'm pretty sure their releases from the 90s onwards are bad)...
But from what I have listened to, it's a really great genre. I prefer King Crimson over Yes.
>>63837090
>Italian prog
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADOLGapvl_E
>>63836378
If you play a lot to JRPGs then you can directly go listen to ELP and whatever group you fancy. A lot of the composers of JRPGs OSTs are serious prog fans.
For example: Motoi Sakuraba, of "Tales of", " Star Ocean" , "Golden Sun" and "Bravely Default" fame had a group in his younger years. https://youtu.be/eM9Jj2qP_kk
And Dancing Mad, by Uematsu, sounds like a tribute to Tarkus.
What I dont know is if there are also animu composers influenced by prog.
what is your favourite prog albums that is considered a contrarian pick?
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>>63836213
I thought Brain Salad Surgery was better tho
>>63836378
and don't waste time listening to elp, they're shit
>inb4 angry fans
>>63837548
You should give a try on mike oldfield specially the taurus 1/2 and tubular bells.
My personal favourites
>>63837687
pretty decent chart, but is that really what you'd consider the Frank Zappa album to get someone into prog? Not Hot Rats?
>>63837687
>not KC's best album
>not mike oldfield's best album
>not pink floyd's best album
>not PFM's best album
holy hell
>>63837730
I think the chart is based off of universal acclaim/common opinion, not your specific opinions.
>>63837730
Just asking, what is mike oldfields best album? Tubular bells was one of his major hits
>>63837752
if that were true then wouldn't Dark side of the Moon be the obvious Pink Floyd choice?
>>63837778
Dark Side of the Moon isn't proggy enough
>>63837687
i think there needs to be some krautrock on there as well.
Maybe Agitation Free or A.R & Machines
>>63837808
Thanks man i will give it a try
>>63837778
Still not based on your opinion though.
>>63837722
in my opinion hot rats is less prog and more jazz
>>63837730
>not KC's best album
this is so contrarian it hurts
>not mike oldfield's best album
objectively wrong, ommadawn is widely inferior to the perfect symphony that is tubular bells
>not pink floyd's best album
pink floyd's best album (the piper at the gates of dawn, or tdsotm if you're a pleb) is not prog
>not PFM's best album
per un amico is more or less as good, didn't know which one to put in
>>63837838
i chose not to put it in because it's just too different from "typical" prog
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>>63837880
except that "universal acclaim" disagrees with your chart on basically every example I listed, except maybe king crimson
LTiA would be a better choice for KC
Ommadawn would be a better choice for mike oldfield
Pink floyd has like four albums that would be better than ummagumma, even the live side is garbage compared to live at pompeii
per un amico would be a better choice for PFM
>>63837796
>defining album of genre
>not genre enough
>>63837765
ommadawn
>>63837838
am i the only one who was really bored by malesch by agitation free
die grune reise was p good tho
>>63837914
except universal accclaim still disagrees with all of your opinions
you still wrong af
>>63837687
You forgot pic related
>>63837880
>Falling for the "Contrarian Piper" meme
Meddle is the best you fucking nerd
Also Tubular Bells & Ommadawn are almost equally as great, just depends on wether you like folkier prog are not.
I like Canterbury-inspired stuff like Supersister and Cos
good genre
>>63837924
Compared to 2nd it's very much inferior imo.
Their live album At the Cliffs of River Rhine is alittle better as well.
>die grune reise was p good tho
really great album i'd agree, Echo is my favourite A.R release i'd recommend listening to that if you haven't, really great stuff
>>63837914
>LTiA would be a better choice for KC
it's not even the second best kc album (that is red)
>Pink floyd has like four albums that would be better than ummagumma, even the live side is garbage compared to live at pompeii
tell me what albums are these, please
i didn't consider the live disc btw
>>defining album of genre
>>not genre enough
i don't know what the fuck you are talking about
how can you be so ignorant?
it is overblown garbage that came out ages after most prog rock masterpieces, it didn't define shit
>>63837973
>thinking meddle is the best pink floyd album
>calling anyone contrarian
>>63838012
maybe it's cuz im just getting into krautrock (die grune reise was the first of the genre i listened to, unless you count black monk time lmao) but i didnt find much memorable about malesch. ill check out the recs once im more into the genre, thanks!
>>63837673
It's my favorite album of all time. Really wish it was more well known. Petri Walli truly had a gift with the guitar... RIP ;-;
>>63838088
If you're just getting into Krautrock make sure you check our Future Days by Can and Faust IV by Faust! Those are my two favorite Krautrock albums!
>>63838111
Gonna check that just because of those trips
>>63838088
2nd for me is an outstanding album.
Enjoy Krautrock friend, really fun genre to explore
>>63838111
When you say Soft machine people instantly think Volume two & Third. Sucks that no one really listens to their later releases in the 70s, just those first few releases.
Oh god yeah the guitar work on Hazard profile still astonishes me, especially the intro on part 1. amazing
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>>63838246
thanks you guys! im gonna add 2nd and the can+faust albums to my list
>>63838246
Oh god yeah the guitar work on Hazard profile from Allan Holdsworth* still astonishes me, especially the intro on part 1. amazing.
whoops
>>63838300
CAN and Faust is a great place to start.
>>63837924
No, it's one of my least favourite albums as well. It never seems to go anywhere. Maybe I just don't get it. Krautrock and progressive rock are some of my favourite genres so I should like it. 2nd isn't much better either.
>>63838195
Tell me what you think!
>>63838511
that's interesting, Malesch for me tries way too hard to be acid rock and it kinda as you mentioned seems to go no where.
2nd is one of the more unique Krautrock albums out there, you may just not get it. try it a few more times
I like a few Yes (The Yes Album, Fragile, CTTE) and King Crimson (Larks Tongue, Red, Discipline) albums but outside of those everything else that I've heard has been mediocre/a letdown or worse.
>>63838785
listen with an open mind. If you expect everything to be like Yes and King Crimson you'll be dissapointed.
>>63838785
which albums have you heard?
>>63838823
Its not like I went into Yes or King Crimson expecting them to be amazing or anything
>>63838856
A bunch of different things? I tried out Genesis and all the other big names most acclaimed albums, and every once in a while I'll listen to something random that someone on /mu/ is raving about. Every once in a while I'll come across something proggy that wasn't released as such and love it though. The Japanese band People In The Box fits the bill. Weather Report and their latest EP (can't remember the name) are pretty great.
>>63838938
Prog takes time to sink in, there's no way anyone can "get" an album on the first listen. You need to take a prog album in fully. Two maybe three listens usually does it for me.
>>63838938
genesis is overrated pleb crap
try listening to the top row of this >>63837687
>>63838598
Soory man cant give a try atm just tomorrow but this shit looks good though
>>63839014
You're why prog rock died.
>>63839149
yeah okay, don't come into a prog thread complaining about not understanding it then with stupid excuse if you don't want stupid responses.
>>63838111
Good choice
Does anyone know what the best pressing of Tarkus is? I have a Cotillion pressing of this album, but it sounds pretty awful.
Octopus is best Gentle Giant senpai
>>63837090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTHT_xgsz-U
>>63839186
You're still doing it
If you're looking for something you haven't heard yet, you should give this a listen.
>>63839188
Hell yeah man! Ozrics are the best, they deserve a lot more love on here. I mean, a lot of their music sounds the same, but at least it's consistently good
My favorite albums by them is either Pungent Effulgent or Technicians of the Sacred
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>>63837971
So, god-tier albums for people who need some exploring?
>>63837687
>no 'I Robot'
further proof than Alan Parsons is underrated
>>63836656
That's pretty much it. It started out as pretty much a mix between psychedelic rock and classical, one of the first popular albums to make the mix well being the Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed. By my understanding, most prog rock tracks have more emphasis on the musicality and complexity of sound than traditional pop tracks, and have more of a classical format than a typical pop format (verse, chorus, bla bla bla). A prog track is typically a bit longer than other genres, often spanning a whole side of an album (about 23 minutes).
Additionally, prog rock lyrically talks about a broader range of subjects than most other genres, and it's not uncommon to hear a nice story from an album or track.
>>63837687
You know I never would have thought of Ummagumma as 'prog,' but i don't see why it isn't. I just always saw it as experimental psych rock.
