Dead edition
Production Resources:
>Pastebin - Under construction
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q (embed) (embed) (embed)
>/prod/ wiki
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com
>/prod/ IRC
http://www.rizon.net/chat
Channel: #/prod/
Remember to use clyp.it to post your tracks/WIP: posting a clyp.it is just providing sound for a question, posting a Soundcloud link is making self-advertisement and the thread doesn't need that.
Generic Vaporwave for shits and giggles
https://clyp.it/juryt1bs
200bpm retro thing.
Each sound is a different free VST and the drums are taken from the Kawai R-50
https://clyp.it/c1h5ckij
what order do you guys eq and compress in? do you do it to all your tracks in a song? what about on the master or grouped tracks or buses or return channels?
also any good resources on compression would be appreciated, it's definitely something i've been neglecting for too long
>>63779179
>what order do you guys eq and compress in?
depends, for example if the compressor pumps too much because of low frequency stuff you obviously shelf that down in front and pull it back up after, often you need both pre and post eq
>do you do it to all your tracks in a song?
when needed. some signals need dynamic processing, some don't. you can't generalize that
>what about on the master or grouped tracks or buses or return channels?
compression on busses is the main thing you need to do to 'blend' certain elements together, for example a bus for all rhythmic elements, another one for all harmonic elements, another one for all vocals ... compressing each of them to taste can do wonderful things
compressing the master is an obvious thing needed for many genres, you can't get enough clean loudness from a main bus limiter most of the times, shit needs to be carefully compressed first
i just started today I think this a pretty good start. I don't know where to go from here. I just followed javcee's instructions and this is what I got.
https://clyp.it/yho31y1m
>>63779179
>what order do you guys eq and compress in?
On the master track I usually put the EQ first to increase the high frequencies, then use a compressor, then limiter.
>Komplete
>ReaKtor
>KontaKt
>TraKtor Kontrol
Is Native Instruments secretly KKK?
Rate my synthwave
https://clyp.it/fzeihdu5
reposting from dead thread
has anyone here installed cracked Arturia stuff? I keep reading that if fucks other plugins up
>>63779534
KKKek
Why is /prod/ dead all of the sudden? Something seems fishy to me. It had its moments of not being too fast but ever since I started going on /prod/, it hasn't been this bad.
https://clyp.it/yg5f1eob
i maek music
>>63780317
People must be busy actually producing?
>>63780802
All of the sudden at once pretty much?
>>63779061
Oops, higher bitrate https://clyp.it/yg3cypgg
>>63779660
8/10
Lower the gain on the drums.
Simple (I think) question here.
I've been recording on a 4 track cassette recorder for the past few months. Along with it I have a simple behringer mixer, and a laptop. Now when I mix the tracks on the 4 track it sounds great but when I try to record it on the laptop it sounds like shit. I'm guessing its cause my laptop just has 1 1/8 inch input for mics so the stereo sound is being recorded and smushed into a mono jack.
So i guess my question is how do I record stereo tracks on my laptop so that the left and right channels have the same dynamic as it sounds on the 4 track. I figure I would need some sort of usb interface but have no idea which one or what type.
>>63781334
>no idea which one or what type.
whichever one has 2 inputs and isn't some super cheap piece of crap from some brand you've never heard of
>>63781441
What is considered "cheap" in this range? Spending less than $100? I'm not too sure what the normal price range is here.
Do you recommend any in particular?
>>63781493
tascam/focusrite/roland/steinberg/m-audio/zoom/presonus
anything by any of those brands will be fine. also i didn't know about these but i guess yamaha makes these now, no idea about the quality but they look like a good deal for the price
https://www.long-mcquade.com/54338/Pro_Audio_Recording/Audio_Interfaces/Yamaha/Multi-Purpose_6_Channel_USB_Mixer_and_Audio_Interface.htm
>>63781646
All right I'll look into it, thanks.
>>63781493
>>63781711
you should also look for used ones if you're trying to keep costs down
>buy record called "plant music" in hopes of mort garson ripoff
>actually just a bunch of bullshit classical
boo
If I make good enough music, someone will eventually want to be friends with me, right?
>>63783039
Yeah, and you'll get some sex out of it too probably.
Hatemail comes with it too, so be prepared.
sup prod, been commissioned to make some music for an indie game. it's a bit of an XCOM clone. working on some rough bits and i'd enjoy some feedback.
level cues are supposed to be dynamically adaptive and quite lengthy so you don't get bored, which something i agree with, but there's quite a bit of work to do.. just trying to get at the right feel so far.
activity in an earth city:
https://clyp.it/z0iwotn0
exploration for the alien world:
https://clyp.it/hhdxd1or
menu music and some briefing ambient strings:
https://clyp.it/ge5rpm52
https://clyp.it/r4a24bh4
bamp
>>63779534
lol
>>63783382
I get what you're going for, but the tracks don't really sound ominous. I'm not sure what they're lacking. For one, they might be in a too high key, and on the other hand, the instrument don't really have the most authorative character to them.
>>63779660
>https://clyp.it/fzeihdu5
this is neat! keep going
>>63783382
how do you get a commission like that? do you have to know someone who's at the beginning stages and also have some talent or is it pure luck? I make some stuff that'd be perfect for vidya but cant into commissions. good work btw, I dig the vibe
just finished this, I think I fixed the distortion/compression:
https://clyp.it/p0eekfma
I'm looking for my first DI Box. I'm running Ableton through a Scarlett 2i4. What's the best DI Box for what I'm using?
>>63785357
What do you need a DI box for? They're usually for live sound reinforcement scenarios, not recording, unless you're doing some amp cabinet simulation, or oddball stuff like that. They're basically problem solvers for long ass cable runs
I hope it's okay to ask this here.
I'm about to start recording a podcast worth a friend of mine. Of course we'll have a long way to go before we ever get to a studio quality show, but we have to start somewhere. I'm looking for any recommendations on programs that are good for recording and editing audio? Ease of use, since we're brand new to this. Hell, finding something that will let us record two mics at once (usb) would be a start.
Any advice or suggestions would be great.
Edison question.
https://www.image-line.com/support/FLHelp/html/plugins/Edison_4.htm
Says here "Shift+Right-click on a marker to invoke temporary zoom for precise positioning."
Sounds convenient af, but I can't get it to do this.
Is the OP-1 worth the price?
>>63786518
If that's your setup, I'd recommend some cheap acoustic paneling, it's not hard to find it used if craigslist is active in your area. It makes a world of difference in vocal recordings, especially podcasts.
If you're just learning to record and edit audio, I recommend looking into Audacity. It's easy to learn with, and gets people started, plus it's free.
To record two mics at once, you'll want an audio interface. Most these days have two mic inputs on the front panel, they look a bit odd because they accept both XLR (mic) and 1/4" (instrument) plugs. Simple 2in/2out audio interfaces are in the $100-150 range.
>>63786518
For recording software, just go with Audacity. It's free and gets the job done. Lots of people use it so you'll have plenty of guides etc. online.
Now as for your USB mics, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe it'll werk?
The /prod/ way would be to get an audio interface with two audio inputs (Focusrite scarlett 2i2 is a really common rec) and two cheap condenser mics. I can understand if that's too much for you, though. Maybe someone else knows better.
>>63786518
Audacity is freeware and pretty much covers everything you need
to my knowledge you can't run two usb mics over your onboard soundcard.
You'll need an audio interface but that won't work with usb mics unfortunately.
>>63786786
So sorry, forgot "pic unrelated" - not my setup at all. Mine's in a large living room with a PC, a USB headset and a boom USB mic (cheap). And I'll look into audio interfaces. Though, my mics both run through USB?
>>63786802
>>63786866
Audacity is so great, but can't do 2 inputs. Also, I took a couple hours last night trying my best to "edit" some audio from my mic to get a good sound (trying to remove some constant whining that's present, "cleaning up" the audio, making it sound nice - but I have no idea what I'm doing and nothing seemed to work). I think I need some help just taking a voice recording and making it "good".
>>63787164
yeah, I missed the USB port
you should be able to select more than one device to record with in audacity
I'm not new to music production, but I'm definitely new to electronic music (bought KORG Volca Keys in January, got my Volca Beats about a month ago), and I wanted some advice: should I pick up a solid mixer or an arduinoboy/something else to help with sequencing? I've rapidly outgrown the 16 step sequencer(s) on my volcas.
For reference, I don't typically record DI into my DAW. I don't know if it's the quality of the cables incl. with the KORGs or whether they're just going to be noisey without an external mixer but it's always a pain in the ass to De-noise/EQ out the shitty high freqs that I capture going DI. Could it be the interface itself? I have a scarlett 2i2 & a TASCAM (forgot the model, but it's what I use to record my band, it's with the drummer atm) .
For the Beats, at least, I vastly prefer running the box into one of my guitar amps and recording it into Cubase with a mic or two. It sounds so much...fuller.
Any tricks to getting the drums in my DI mixes to sound better? I know that I'm sort of limited with the single output on the Beats...
here's a quick thing that I recorded yesterday so that I wouldn't forget the idea: https://soundcloud.com/maxwojo/so-so
I couldn't really figure out how to EQ the drums without them being overbearing in the low end.
and now a recording of some babby's first house music w/ the beats through my peavey classic 50 / think I recorded this with an SM57, I vastly prefer the sound I get on this track: https://soundcloud.com/maxwojo/whos-to-say
Is it just practice?
>>63788012
What is EQ anyways? Is it just filtering software? Like cutsoff certain frequencies
>>63788170
? I can't tell if you're trolling my post or not but on the off chance that this post is made in good faith:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalization_(audio)
EQ refers to the process of cutting & boosting frequencies to achieve the desired sound.
My first try at future funk https://clyp.it/jx2zsnxo
Fun genre.
I wanted to do hip-hop, but nothing really came together so I tried minimal techno instead.
https://clyp.it/qnbwsepf
Bass/kick/pad are really lazy, but I think the sample is okay?
I feel like I should have 23423 automation tracks, but I don't even know where to start and the mix is hardly sublime as it is.
Suggestions?
Can anyone comment on their experiences with Ableton tutorials or recommend some? I know Sadowick and Tom Cosm are highly recommended.
how do i create a lead sound using voice samples that sounds like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb4cSGw3H5A where could i find samples that sound like this?
>>63788535
how is it future funk if you made it in the past?
worth the money?
>>63788376
Thanks, was not a troll
>>63788829
Bruh.
Seriously though, thoughts?
Should I continue on it?
It's just a sped up sample with drums.
>>63788580
>>63788535
heard
I like both
>>63789403
I'd like it if you did, I don't know what you should do though
>>63788958
depends on workflow. Generally I would say no. It doesn't do anything that can't be achieved using softsynths and thorough automation. it offers a large diversity of sounds, and is quite flexible, but it offers no novel form of synthesis nor particularly impressive audio quality. digital hardware is always tricky because so much of it can be replaced with VSTs. that said, most of the hardware synths i have owned have been digital, and i usually went after them because of weird audio textures or their workflow. Elektron is super powerful, especially when combined with other gear, and when playing live, so just weigh how it would fit into your set up. But otherwise, the monomachine offers nothing super special in my opinion, other than being compact, flexible, and i guess packing a lot of stuff into one device.
anyone here have opinions on distortion/overdrive processors for synths? a lot of distortion processors for guitars are just WAY too heavyhanded and explosive to apply to synths. softer fuzziness and adding grit and sharper edges is sometimes what I am looking for. I've used cassettes as distortion units, but it's a but inflexible, both in terms of studio signal flow and actually control over the tone. I've considered tube distortions, because you can saturate nicely without necessarily going 100% on it, but yeah, any thoughts on synths + distortion pedals?
>>63789508
thank you, perfect answer
>>63789583
Synths and mic'd amps are great together.
>>63789583
I haven't found a distortion pedal for my synths that I really like yet either. I have a couple of boutique (read: hand-me-down one-off pedals made by some dude in his garage that my uncle gave me a few years back) distortion/fuzz/OD pedals but they always compress the signal from my synths into shit. Honestly, I get the best distortion running my gear through my Orange Micro Dark terror...but then it's a very specific sound that I can't really setup live.
My friend swears by the Boss DS-1 but he makes a much different sort of music than I do, and even then I think he hypes it up more than he actually uses it. Reminds me, I should go get my pedal back from him.
>>63782066
try claude larson's 'plantlife'
>>63789465
I got a couple of ideas.
My goal is to get on Moe Shop's level.
Want to do Vaporwave, Future Funk and other sample based meme genres as side projects to my ambient and progressive house tracks.
Though my biggest issue is overthinking things.
Maybe I need to take a break from music production for a couple of days.
Bumping my Vaporwave track >>63781210 because I'm proud that I managed to make it not sound shit.
>>63790005
the DS-1 is too... "cold" in my opinion. It has interesting qualities, such as a certain "bounciness" to the sound, but it's just not the kind of saturation and grit that I want. it scoops a little hard imo. i realize we are talking purely about taste which i can't really convey, but i feel like the DS-1 is too low hanging of a fruit to suggest, funnily enough. that said, the blues driver in the same pedal range is amazing. subtler with better low end response.
>>63790086
Yeah, I know what you mean, it's so common that it's almost a non-starter for anyone that's already attempting to apply their taste.
Interesting thoughts on the bluesdriver, I'll have to see if I can test one out. Never wanted one in my guitar's pedal chain, I'll laugh if one ends up after my synths.
>>63790150
this video gets me WET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF36l94pXig
>>63790195
Damn, that's so much more lush & versatile than I thought it would be. Another thing to add to the never-ending list of money drains.
I can get the Yamaha CP20 for $123.
Y/N?
>mfw ONE more subscriber and i can finally make a custom URL for my ütube channel
>>63790337
I dunno, will it be useful or enjoyable enough to justify that price tag to you personally?
That Is a decent price though, I was hoping they'd retail for around that much like the volcas before the price was announced
>>63790497
Oh wait, I was thinking reface cp for some reason. No idea about the cp20
>>63790337
>Yamaha CP20
the fuck is this dinky sounding plastic-ass toyboard
>>63790547
Cheap synth.
I was hoping there'd at least be one person in /prod/ that owns one or has owned one/used one.
>>63790653
to be honest it kind of sounds crummy enough to be unique. would actually consider copping because i doubt you would find anything quite like it, though i kind of hate it. still, an interesting device.
>>63788786
It's a chopped up Clannad [insert title of almost any song here] sample with a bit of flanger on it, best bet is to sample some Clannad (and probably Enya herself too) songs.
>>63790411
Just make another account.
>>63789969
Too right - Ultravox/Visage-era Billy Currie and John Foxx both ripped the fuck out of ARP Odyssey (and OSCar) synths through guitar amps. Magazine's Dave Formula and Tubeway Army's Chris Payne used a fair bit of that sound too, although they did all sound a bit on the hard sync/aggressive side.
Probably Tony Banks (early pre-Mellotron Genesis had nothing but a Hammond and a Hohner Pianet N overdriven through Leslie cabs) and JMJ are good references for more gentle variants.
>>63789583
Try Peavey ReValver for a more controllable sim of the above, or Amplitube which has Leslie cabs too IIRC.
I'm struggling to get any use out of my MIDI knobs and faders. I really wanna design patches with both hands, but even if I link up all the parameters, I can't actually remember what knob does what. I could dream up standards about always linking the cutoff freq with so and so and always linking the volume with etc, but that just fucks over any synth that does something special.
I don't really wanna get into hardsynths, but it seems unavoidable.
>>63790889
but that's cheating silly!
Thinking of getting a Wavedrum.
>can't think of any one acoustic instrument I'd want to use regularly.
>don't wanna go out for field recs for every project.
>completely don't understand the drum machine sequencer workflow
>don't have any vinyl to rip. Using FL with a hardware sampler sounds like a pain.
>minimizing CPU usage so I can shorten the audio buffer and tap something out in MIDI is a chore.
So it kinda sounds like my only option for spicing up my percs.
Still, it strikes me as a toy and the UI worries me.
>>63792180
i just watched a vid and that thing looks funner'n horsecocks! i'm sure everything they were demoing was prelaoded sounds and samples but with some elbowgrease you could do amazing original sound design with that thing. the fact that it's designed to sense pressure the way a drum skin does is pretty freakin' cool. and anything you actually perform is more fun than just sequencing a drum masheen. i might get one of these someday
Literal beginner here with no experience whatsoever. Do you guys know musical theory? Because I don't really and I feel like it might be holding me back
>>63792398
i do, but i starting writing music before i did. it's all about how well you can stretch your imagination. i wouldn't worry about it.
>>63792398
yeah I do, but I only learned it after producing for 10 years. I got to the point where I said "hey maybe I can get a job writing film music" and then decided to go to university and study music. Best decision of my life. I even get occasional paid film scoring work. Still work a day job though
>>63792371
> that thing looks funner'n horsecocks
>>63792651
>>63792371
>mfw horsecocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17rZTpoXVzw
https://a.uguu.se/etpexq_StickyDrama.flac
How did OPN make the synths from 0:00 to 0:30 sound very "authentic" stereo-wise, if that makes sense? They almost sound like acoustic instruments recorded from a room based on the headspace, but I'm pretty sure they're just synths.
I think it's more than just careful panning. Is there some sort of stereo imager configuration that's good for effects like this?
>>63793871
I ain't clicking on that shit nigga
>>63793926
It's just a link to a FLAC of the song (Sticky Drama).
For some reason, when I listen to it on Youtube, the effect sounds way less apparent to me with my playback gear and headphones. I didn't think lossy compression would affect panning, so not sure why really.
Here it is though:
https://youtu.be/td-e4i2BL_Q?list=RDtd-e4i2BL_Q&t=38
>>63793972
Also in case the timestamp link didn't work, the synths I'm talking about start at 38 seconds here.
>>63793972
I hear 3 things going on, acoustic piano, synthesized marimba, and some sort of synth zither sound. With minimal panning, you can get a lot of motion out of these voices
>>63794292
See, I couldn't quite tell if that was really an acoustic piano or not. If it is, that makes a lot more sense.
Any advice on how to make a hardware or soft synth sound kind of natural and acoustic like that piano? (Not necessarily with actual piano string sounds, though.)
Looking for some help on how I would go about processing my drums to get a similar sound to this
https://clyp.it/3f4qjwom
Been looking up drum tutorials everywhere but they mostly seem to cater to "edm"
I feel like I need to learn a bit more about eqing and compression but I'm not sure where to start.
>>63794483
Well it probably wasn't an actual acoustic piano, it was probably just some soft synth piano that does only that, acoustic piano sounds
https://clyp.it/4d1r4x1v
how get cute arps like this, other than the obvious bit crushing
>>63794501
I'm an amateur myself so this may be totally wrong, but the kick sounds like it has a fair bit of compression, with a not too short attack to keep the transient. Probably parallel compression, but not sure.
There's definitely a synthesized component to the kick, since the sub-bass seems pretty powerful and tight. Might be 100% synthesized, or maybe a sub-bass synth layered over a real kick sample.
The kick also has a little bit of a decay/tail to it, which gives it more of a groove.
And I'm pretty sure everything is sidechained to the kick. The other instruments are panned (except maybe the hat, though it may be panned slightly... not sure), and the kick is in mono.
>>63794722
It's a square/pulse wave with portamento. I think there may be an LFO giving it a bit of pulse width modulation, and there might be a tiny bit of detuning, though not sure about both of those.
https://clyp.it/0pdf1gxk Does it work senpai?
hey senpai
put a little bit of time into this WIP, should i make a full track? thoughts and feedback?
>https://clyp.it/0sslh5tf
https://clyp.it/2b5kvz2v
where do I go from here? Not really asking production-wise, more just song wise. Is there anywhere really I can go?
>>63796262
vox would fit
https://clyp.it/12nd0tdp
Its in very very early stages but thoughts?
