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Why does everyone act like Eminem is bad when he's one of the only technically and poetically impressive rappers out there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooOL4T-BAg0
>>63743482
because his songwriting sucks
flow is good and technique but he makes shit songs
a murderous freestyler but not a good songwriter
Because he's white
>>63743534
TRUMP 2016
>>63743534
TRUMP 2016
>>63743534
SANDERS 2016
>>63743482
>one good song
wow
>>63743595
Trump meme magik is strong f4m
>>63743534
you're motherfucking welcome
>>63743482
>white
>produces his own hooks
>doesn't sample like unsophisticated nignogs
>rhymes better than every other rapper out there, most are horrible rhymers i.e. MF DOOM, Camron, Rakim and have horrible ABC bullshit rhymes
>Dark and mature subject matter that he had to make to differentiate himself from every other nignog
>fantastic battle rapper
>outshined every rapper he ever collabed with
>brought Dre back to the forefront and out of irrelevance
>doesn't shill his house like celebrity nignogs in MTV cribs
>is actually funny
>has his own cartoon
when will ppl accept him as the one true goat
>>63743631
thanx
>>63743631
Trump schlonged the immunity cat. You must reply 'TRUMP 2016 MAGA' to this post or you and your cat will die in 2016
>>63743610
you mean three albums worth of songs and unreleased material and an ep and his shit with d12, as well as the arguable classic relapse. Better than any other rapper's disco.
>>63743723
TRUMP 2016 MAGA
>>63743723
you win this time
>>63743723
TRUMP 2016 MAGA
can anyone actually name a better rapper than eminem? memes aside
>>63743534
TRUMP 2016
>>63743635
When MMLP2 had sampled "Life's Been Good" by Joe Walsh
Listen harder faggot
>>63743893
MMLP2 is by far his worst album, worse than encore. we dont count that. His masterpiece TES is made from his own melodies and he doesnt jack music from other artists.
>>63743893
Shut up nigger.
White America and Soldier
>>63743534
TRUMP 2016
>>63744316
>Brain Damage
>Stan
>Murder Murder
>Kim
>97 Bonnie& Clyde
>As the world turns
no1 can name a better storyteller in hip hop, and no slug from atmosphere is a boring storyteller for dropout art students
>>63743723
TRUMP 2016 MAGA
>>63744377
Scarface, nas , and Lupe you dumb bitch
>>63744527
Lupe is an awful storyteller, nobody has the sense of narrative mastery that Eminem has. Closest are biggie and ghostface, but ghost uses retarded slang to get his point across. He's like an even more dense James joyce (and i dont mean that in a good way). Whereas eminem is rap's hemingway, rap's anton chekhov. His insight into the human condition and ability to say so much with so little is outmatched. No one can even hope to match his candid realism.
He also has more theatrical concepts, nas is a poor storyteller, barring Blaze a 50 (underrated song). Lol @ listening to scarface.
>>63743534
TRUMP 2016
>>63744697
Damn nigga. You are retarded.
Because we are at the point where most people on this board weren't even alive at his peak.
>>63743534
trump 2016
Eminem does not make music that is relatable to the common man
This is why Eazy E is the goat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FWHdiF1IOg
>>63744697
fucking kill yourself
>>63743534
Fuck you, feel the Bern.
>>63743635
Word up. Other than 2pac no fucking body rivals shady. Remember this dude came out swinging in an era where you had to be hard and real to succeed. This pop bullshit these days is a joke, it's A&R and hype. Nigs sucking dick. Em the only rapper I've listened to who's skill has gotten better, more complex. Even the top rappers skill fall off after the first or second album
If you think he's one of the only "technically impressive" rappers, he must be one of the only rappers you've listened to. Because there are a lot of rappers who do verses full of multisyllabic rhymes and all that. And I don't think forcing multisyllabic rhymes for a lot of your career puts you any higher on the "poetic" scale.
>>63746721
like who tech n9ne? Rofl, also eminem's rhymes are hardly forced. I bet 90 percent of his rhymes go over ur head actually.
>>63743635
>>doesn't sample like unsophisticated nignogs
he sampled bach on mmlp2
>>63746946
Dipset, Bone Thugs, G Rap, MF Doom, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Earl Sweatshirt, Big Pun, and a hell of a lot more but I don't even listen to that kind of rap much anymore.
>>63743860
nas
>>63743635
>doesn't sample like unsophisticated nignogs
http://www.whosampled.com/Eminem/
>rhymes better than every other rapper out there, most are horrible rhymers i.e. MF DOOM, Camron, Rakim and have horrible ABC bullshit rhymes
Rakim is a far superior MC top Eminem. Since you're predominately using east coast rappers I guess I'll name several who are better than him: Nas, Big L, Big Pun, Guru, Ghostface Killah, Pharoahe Monch. That's just off the top of my head.
>outshined every rapper he ever collabed with
That's entirely subjective. We can argue who's more skilled but favoring verses is pointless.
>brought Dre back to the forefront and out of irrelevance
This is key for showing how delusional you are. He owes his entire success to his stewardship under Dre. He has acknowledged several times that Dre. is the primary driving force behind his success, but I'm guessing some autist on /mu/ knows him better than himself.
>accept him as the one true goat
He's not even the best white hip-hop act, that title goes to Beastie Boys. Nothing he's made tops Paul's Boutique.
East shit.
>>63744527
>scarface
My nigga.
>>63743482
european rappers are much better
>>63747170
None of em are as close to rhyming as Eminem, eminem rhymed a helluva lot more and had better lyrics to boot. His rhymes were so gud, you don't even notice he's rhyming half the time, they were so subtle. Earl is just a dumbed down SSLP eminem. Dipset just rhyme lafft taffy with Daffy scrappy esque shit. G rap was gud but was rendered irrelevant by eminem. MF DOOM is meme version of Camron for hipsters. Rakim is for oldfags who literally just raps about rapping, wow so meta! Big Daddy Kane is the worst old school artist out of Rakim and G rap. Big Pun rhymed just to rhyme and repetitive subject matter.
Lol @ not mentioning Big L, who was the only one who could match eminem (when he's on his absolute A game) in terms of creativity, wittiness, and coherent rhymes. Listen to Devil's son, Dangerzone, or All black.
>>63747227
Nas has one good album that's a meme album, boring beats, terrible hookmaker, pretends he's the second Moses, Allah, Jesus. Got cucked out by Jay z. Made two attention seeking albums ala HHID and the Nigger album, both which flopped hard. Collabs with some shitty Australian group cause he's out of work now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebyr-mZ2iNo. I could literally go on & on. Lol at ur hero.
Trump 2016
>>63744890
Eazy E didn't write his verses while in N.W.A.
>>63747236
literally mention one verse by ANY of those rappers with rhymes as dense as his lose yourself verse. EVERY word in that song rhymed with something, it was a complex web of rhymes, like a rhyme diamond, yet despite that NONE of it feels forced at all. Why are u naming Guru or Ghostface, both are horrible rhymers.
Eminem has more mic presence than Nas and Big Pun. Had more versatile flows, better delivery, WAAAY better story teller than anybody on this list. Would rip them to shreds in a battle (both on wax or on stage) and in the booth. Had literally more creative stories than Nas (lol at rapping as a gun, show me a rapper who has humor that can match As the world turns or Brain damage, his humor was so subtle, like a simpsons episode. Ghostface is good, but he's hurt by having to use slang for his raps, since he knows if he rapped like a regular human being, his veneer of depth would be marked as shallow.
>That's entirely subjective. We can argue who's more skilled but favoring verses is pointless.
Not rly? He demolished Jay z in renegade, redman put up a decent fight in that song but lost, royce was the only one who could be argued to have a better verse in BME (sslp lol). Wayne sux donkey dick.
>This is key for showing how delusional you are. He owes his entire success to his stewardship under Dre. He has acknowledged several times that Dre. is the primary driving force behind his success, but I'm guessing some autist on /mu/ knows him better than himself.
He's just being humble, lol. Yes Dre did put him on, but it was aboslutely ALL eminem's talent that made him blow up, most ppl hate eminem's beats lol. His own eccentricity and uniqueness amidst the jiggy era was a breath of fresh air and was what put him into the rap stratosphere effectively ending Puffy's reign. Literally once ppl saw wow this white boy can spit, they latched onto him. Dre's own detox album only has any relevance cause of Eminem's appearances init.
>>63747312
>people this retarded exist
That "meme" album is better than anything Eminem has ever or will ever make. How does it feel to know that a 19 year old has made an infinitely superior record as a teenager than anything your idol has created.
>>63747609
word limit, but yeah beastie boys suck. Edan, Copywrite, Apathy, Diabolic, Vinnie Paz, RA the ruggedman, Blu (he's a token white rapper) are the best white rappers
>>63747609
dude it's not that complex. rhyme 6 syllables for 2 beats. do it again. do it 2 more times. do the same the next line with a different set of rhymes. listen to fuckin JR writer if that's all you care about.
>>63747624
not that guy but Illmatic is shit.
boring beats, monotonous flow, lame style, rhyme schemes aren't even that impressive, shitty sounding teenager voice, thousands of other rappers have rapped about the same thing, etc.
>>63747624
how does it feel to know that album completely flopped and forced nas to start his mafioso posturing and effectively bury his career along with it? Also SSLP is better, much better. Illmatic is super bland and has no soul to it.
>>63747640
It's not like that though, lol any moron could do that. Vinni paz does that. Eminem doesnt just rhyme like that lol, he has way more complex rhyme schemes. Also did u miss me praising his storytelling, flow, delivery, humor, mic presence? Literally his rhyming is just a cherry on the top
>>63747609
Nas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unpNsXFNTVA
Guru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBadu4K-QkI
Big L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAfhCsdw9Zg
Ghostface Killah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_JhD0HUGYQ
Big Pun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2RcnnV3cBQ
Pharoahe Monch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4LfwVyoI1o
>>63747747
name one eminem song thats better than NY state of mind
>>63747711
>rhymes schemes that aren't even that impressive
Are you telling me that the one take of NY state of mind is not impressive. It's funny how when he rapped in Large professor's studio as an amateur nobody he left the entire booth and studio speechless in a room full of industry and musical giants but not you apparently.
You're complaining about his rhyme schemes arelacking when he dropped shit like the world is yours and it aint hard to tell. I would love to hear what you would qualify as an alternative that you enjoy.
>>63747255
Name good European rappers.
Is there a single good German one?
>>63747775
>dickriding Eminem's "storytelling" and lyrical skill (muh stan)
>when nas literally rapped a song backwards
I would love to see a song he thinks tops Get down as well.
>>63747825
90's hip hop as a whole is shit so it's no surprise other 90's rapper found that trash impressive
listen to Oh Boy by Cam'ron & Juelz Santana and tell me that isn't a better song than anything on Illmatic
insane clown posse without the facepaint
>>63747775
Stan, When I'm Gone, Kim, Rock Bottom
>>63747868
Not at all. Eminem's music has much more depth than most realize. His early stuff was mostly a satirization of the zeitgeist and modern culture of the early 2000's. He acknowledged it was only a character in his songs and he also covered controversial topics and showed the world a new ruthless punk-leader. He also matured a lot and a lot of his personal, introspective songs are simply genius and nothing short of breath-taking. Listen to the music deeper before you put it in a box.
>>63747862
>listen to Oh Boy by Cam'ron & Juelz Santana and tell me that isn't a better song than anything on Illmatic
>Thinks he's above classic hiphop albums by trying to compare it to one of dip-set most poplar club bangers, which isn't even their best lyrical work
You're not entitled to an opinion here.
>>63747763
Ok lemme counter each song with a better song
Rewind is a gimmicky mess and not even close to nas' best song or even storytelling song (blaze a 50 takes that throne)
but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCX8qS70hII
literally the opening rhymes to this song is perfect, rhymes are fluid, crisp, NOT forced. AND it's hilarious, eminem's humor was top notch
He banged my head against the urinal til he broke my nose,
Soaked my clothes in blood, grabbed me and choked my throat
I tried to plead and tell him, "We shouldn't beef"
But he just wouldn't leave, he kept chokin me and I couldn't breathe
He looked at me and said, "You gonna die honkey!"
The principal walked in (What's going on in here?)
and started helpin him stomp me
>moment of truth, boring song
much better song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3CmKofKTU
>lol at that big l song, christ. Boring imagery, awkard slang, bad pacing, repetitive choice of words. Do ppl rly think that's on par with a song like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8WWaZMboAo
much better song about a depressed person, and gives u insight into the mind of what it takes to be a stick up artist. This is what i meant by eminem being peerless into viewing the human condition
dope GFK song won't deny it, but lol @ not linking shakey dog
>beware, loool. Not even Twinz? Come on mayne, step ur game up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9FBhlL3NZE
eminem did hardcore music better than ur nignogs u worship
Pharaohe monch is a meme rapper btw
>>63747775
all of sslp and half of MMLP but fine role model
Eminem is basically irrelevant to hip hop music right now. I am being 100% genuine when I say that Young Thug is my favorite hip hop artist right now. What he's doing is infinitely more interesting than anything eminem has done since 2004
>>63744037
this
but mmlp is his masterpiece you dope
>>63747922
yeah okay but you didn't dispute the fact that it's better than every song on Illrecyclebinclassic so your meme text is pointless
>>63743482
I see the google+ crowd showed up.
>>63747170
>Dipset
Are you actually fucking joking me? Lmao
Love Dipset tho
>>63743482
Hes a murderer
>>63743482
Rhyme is not the end-all of rap, it is only a single facet.
MF Doom and Dälek are both extremely good without too much focus on consistent rhyming.
>>63747832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cvjZEQ2nP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA2Pa7GP0EU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knOD9LtuFd4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhrYQrLBiTQ
Not him, am the em fan reking everyone in this thread
>>63747849
he also made a gimmicky rap song about being a gun, which 2pac did much better of all people.
Get down is only gud cause of the beat, not gonna list eminem songs better than that gimmicky meme fest
>>63747908
word
PASS ME THE DEW
>>63747908
this is a fine example of being brainwashed by jimmy iovine
Even the God MC himself recognizes Eminem as GOAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I53vWm8dJGk
>>63743482
shes 18 i swear
>>63743482
All he represents is Middle America white trash.
He's talented but has no taste when it comes to beats and music anymore. He's best over more minimalistic production. It forces him to be more interesting. His pop shit he just whines it's annoying.
>>63747609
>lose yourself
>dense
Do you even know what dense means? How the hell is that song dense?
I can't take this people seriously.
>>63748203
i was talking about rhymes, lol. Not the actual content, although there's nothing wrong with the song at all (its a perfect song). Song is easy to understand and grasp narratively, though that's due to eminem not relying on dindu language.
>>63747954
If you honestly believe Oh Boy is a better track than anything on Illmatic you're not worth an argument. It should be self explanatory. It's a complete style over substance song with basic bars, flow, or general meaning. It's feel good shallow banger made for clubs.
You're retarded if you're trying to make it anything beyond that.
>>63747941
You are whats so wrong with hiphop
Young thug is a horrible rapper and a fad thats going to die out just like crunk fad.
If you honestly like Young thug seriously not like throw it on at a party then you are a huge hip hop pleb
>>63748162
MMLP2 and Hell The Sequel both had some good beats
>>63748219
It had some good bars, but it used simple rhymes schemes for the most part. The fact that you're heralding as some sort of untouchable parable of mc'in just makes you seem delusional.
>not relying on dindu language.
/pol/tard detected.
If you want dense GZA blows him out of the water with Liquid Swords. The intro track alone is more dense than your feel good movie single.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bsl44gJAPY
>>63747938
>moment of truth, boring song
Kill yourself.
not even close bud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQQZi-MhF7Q
What's going on in this thread?
>>63744697
>Lol @ listening to scarface
The diary and The Fix are masterpieces. He has never released a bad album, same can't be said for Eminem. I'd argue that I seen a man die is one of the greatest hiphop tracks ever made. Busta detected, eat shit.
>>63747941
Eminem is definitely irrelevant but Young Thug is shit, and no where near as interesting as Em in his prime, which funnily enough wasn't even hugely interesting.
>>63748336
Mmlp2 did have a few yes. But it has more than a few shit ones too. Idk why he makes those pop songs. It's not like he needs the money. Do you think he really likes the music he's making?
>>63748736
To be fair, he only did a few on his last two and I mean, I guess he makes different types of songs for every type of fan pretty much. And sometimes I think he just likes those style of tracks for motivation/uplifting certain individuals in specific situations.
>>63743723
TRUMP 2016 MAGA
>>63747979
do you know what a rhyme is?
>>63743529
He went through some really tough shit though. Any hip hop head can't deny his incredible talent from 97 - 2001. Low Down & Dirty off Slim Shady EP is one of my fav songs from him. The vibe is dirty and underground as fuck.
>>63748879
Drug Ballad, No Apologies, If I Had and Stimulate are all his best.
>>63748945
If I Had is one of the worst on the SSLP, agree with No Apologies though
This guys history of rap at the beginning was way off.
rakim was doing complex internal rhyme structrue in 1987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEdEcxyxiU4
And obviously there has been rappers that have a rhyme structure just as complex, most notably big pun.
But whatever song is still good, and em is still good.
>>63748945
drug ballad is goat
>>63749041
Worst? what
I mean yes, Rock Bottom is better but If I Had is goat nqqa
Eminem has 2 personas. DUDE INSANE LMAO and Stoic SO DEEP White guy. He's corny as fuck
>>63743723
TRUMP 2016 MAGA
>>63749571
>implying most white people arent the same
people are diverse individuals nigga. gosh. hes not a cartoon character. and i enjoy both sides of marshall.
>>63743482
damn....
>>63749619
Is em the hottest rapper? I think so
>>63749646
he looks like he underwent severe botax surgery
>>63749655
To be fair, he did a shit load of drugs for like 30 years and he's in his mid-forties. Not to meniton, that's a bad angle + bad expression + too much makeup. I think bad pictures are simply that, bad pictures. I doubt he'd have surgery. It's so unlike him. He's a cool dude.
> that song about sticking a gerbil in his ass.
> the one about the bully at school.
> "i smoke a fat pound of grass and fall on my ass faster than a fat bitch that sat down too fast"
Such poetry man. What a skilled lyricist.
>>63743745
Id like to see eminent do disco
>>63749686
He performed FACK live and it was obviously never meant to be taken seriously. Plus for such a crazy, disgusting song it's remarkably catchy. Plus, he was high as fuck... come on.
The one about the bully? I assume you mean Brain Damage. No issue with the song. It's comical and sarcastic in nature. Great song.
That last line is yet again more classic Shady humor.
Stop cherrypicking, faggot.
>>63749707
Doesn't matter if Fack was meant to be taken as a joke, it's a horrible song. Brain Damage is great though not sure what that guy was on about with that one.
>>63748045
> gimmicky meme fest
Dude no one is more of a gimmicky meme rapper than eminem. This thread is cracking me up with all of these eminem fanboys.
>>63746946
> thinking eminem is deep
too edgy and his sound is weak
People on /mu/ are obviously going to hate Eminem, he's a shit musician. He produces horrible beats, he writes the worst hooks. It's been like that since TES, pretty much. I think it's either because he started taking more control over the musical production of his albums or because the drugs fucked up his hearing/sense for music.
Go to communities of hip hop heads, people who are into rap specifically - Everyone knows Eminem is GOAT and that his albums are all amazing except for like one.
>>63749907
Anyone who calls themselves a hip hop head is pretty much guranteed to be an idiot who listens to whats popular. Also most people I've seen who call themselves a hip hop head go for Pac or Big instead of Em.
>>63749907
>admits eminem is shit
>"he's goat"
STOP SMOKIN THAT SHIT
Undisputed list of best rappers by carefully calculating their discos by their grade point average. No dont ask me why Death Grips or Dalek are there, I don't listen to meme rappers
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/ClassTK/top_rap_discographies/
>>63743482
he is to rapping what eddie van halen is to guitar playing.
>>63750017
Looked at Top 20, that list is horrible.
>>63749961
Nah, those are just teenagers who discovered "real hip hop". The big Facebook communities, Genius, and even reddit's board are filled with intelligent rap fans. Eminem is good at rapping you can't really deny that.
>>63749991
Shit musician, good rapper. It's not the same. If you consider rapping as creating music (I don't), then Eminem is a good musician when it comes to rapping only.
>>63750017
>7: Kanye West
closed the tab
>>63750166
>Genius
Shouldn't have taken me this long to realise the bait
>>63750177
You're lucky you closed it there, they have Blu at number 18.
>>63750166
whats the point in judging rappers by their skill in rapping alone if they make shitty albums
skill in rapping doesnt mean shit if you cant utilize it properly
>>63750182
>le everyone is stupid except for 4chan
Very few people here know jackshit about hiphpop, whatever enjoy your memes.
>>63750222
If you're being serious then facebook is the worst place to discuss anything pretty much. I've seen people on Genius say Wayne has 14 classics, I've also seen a fair bit of hate on there for Em. Reddit is just as bad as here for discussion but at least here you can't have people downvote you. With all that said Eminem will never be GOAT with albums like Encore and Recovery.
>>63750165
it's a still work in progress obv. Redman is sure to move down as i venture further into his disco. Kendrick is sure to retain his number one spot tho.
What, pray tell, did you find wrong with this list?
>>63749907
>Go to communities of hip hop heads, people who are into rap specifically
>>63750251
Em is very divisive. He always has been. A lot of people on Reddit, 4chan and other sites love him. A lot of them hate him. A lot of them like the old Em. A lot of them pretend to hate him to be cool. Etc
>>63750201
Yeah... Eyedea at 2 already pissed me off.
>>63750210
I mean, enjoy lisetning to rap by itself. I appreciate the rhymes, the flows, how it's written. It's obviously better if the album is a whole musical project with the beats being an integral part of it - but I can put up with Eminem rapping over some wack piano beat if he's going to rap the way he does.
>>63750252
It takes into account how good the discography is not the influence each artist has had, which is probably this biggest part of a greatest list as most other things can be pretty subjective.
>>63750289
What's wrong with eyedea, he's one of the few to really succesfully blend rock & rap. He also has one of the most philosophical and deepest minds in hip hop.
>>63750017
MF Doom is literally the only deserving top 10 there, and even that is debatable.
>>63750289
I can at least understand Eyedea being high if you're into that kind of rap. He wouldn't be in my top 10 but I can understand why someone would put him there.
>>63750288
And how much of that divisiveness comes from 12 year olds or straight up fanboys? My guess would be a lot, most people agree that Em dropped off.
>>63750301
I don't particularly care for influence. i mean it's good, but I judge more on quality (obv this is subject), but there are tons of things that are influential but are boring to me. Most 80s hip hop for example or rakim, meanwhile masta ace may not be as influential as his peers, but in the 00s was a better rapper than the ever were.
>>63750323
name ur ten favorite rappers than.
Black thought definitely earned a spot through consistency alone, plus he got better over time (well he declined in 2010) but yeah, in 06 he was the best rapper in the planet. Biggie only had two albums worth of material but both were classic, cant fault him for dying early, he didnt produce trash. Outkast needs no explanation. Ice cube is gonna move down once i go further into his disco. And i guess i can get not liking spoonfull, he's not for everyone.
>>63744697
>Whereas eminem is rap's hemingway,
This post is strange. Why would you insult Eminem in the middle of a bunch of praise?
>>63750251
Facebook obviously depends on which groups you take part of. Many are terrible, some are great. Genius has some idiots I guess, but I had many great conversations there as well. I don't really go on Reddit but I know more than a few people with great taste who do.
Recovery is decent by the way, but I have to agree with Encore being bad.
>>63750334
You have to be into a VERY specific kind of rap to put Eyedea on your top 3....
>>63750335
You should really try some of that 80's rap again, Rakim is easily top 10. Even based purely off of skill how can you compare rappers who've released 10 albums and stayed consistent to rappers who've released 2 and thats it.
>>63750367
Funnily enough both those replies are to me. Facebook has most of the discussion on pages, the majority of the people who like a page will like the thing that is being discussed leaving little room for proper discussion. Take Em for an example, go on his page and say something bad againsts him and you'll have 50+ fanboys talking shit against you within an hour. Everytime I've been on Genius (admittedly not a lot) the discussions been the same, if you don't fit into that hivemind you're going to be downvoted constantly, making it so you can't reply to shit, Same with reddit. As for Eyedea, the guy who made the list obviously fit into that, there was atleast 3 Rhymesayers rappers in his top 20.
Eminem has some high highs, but his lows are fucking brutal.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9dcVOmEQzKA
>>63750017
You ever checked out Aesop Rock? With guys like Eyedea and Slug I think you would love Aesop.
>>63744697
I'm sorry man - the autism on your post is off the charts.
>>63750407
Dude who is having discussions on an artist's page? There are close "forum" groups dedicated to hip hop, some of them are great, you usually have to find them through friends or something.
>>63750431
It's been such a long time since I last watched this clip... Oh god.
>>63750458
Yeh he's in the list
Em is good rapper but I have his whole edgy, cringy slim shady act
>>63747832
https://youtu.be/ouiN6yGvGic
Greatest flow i've ever heard T B H
Man, no matter how you feel about Em you can't argue that this isn't great. I can see why people didn't give a fuck about him with this style though since it was too common at the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtRbEgoTqQs
Man, I can't believe there's no official instrumental of this anywhere. What a top tier beat.
>>63744697
>>63743635
>>63746134
>>63750654
I'm with you on that, love Infinite. Ever checked out Eminem's even-earlier shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fXdTPl5suw
>>63747255
>>63747832
>european rappers
hey european bros, post some rappers from your country would like to check em out even if i dont understand what they're saying.
Here's some Portuguese shit
we have some generic trap hip hop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiVSrGXgQQo
some with a more classic feel to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbkiSrlY3r8
also some obscure weird shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9j8wyORyMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ijP12g71F4
Tell me what you think.
>>63750431
literally a meme rapper
>>63743482
plenty of rappers do this, i dont think its very impresive
>>63743482
No one said he was a bad lyricist, but you need more than just that.
Like SSLP - MMLP - The Eminem Show was one of the GOAT trilogies and Encore is alright but then he just fell off in terms of everything else except lyricism.
rip eminem
>>63750647
>going fast
>good flow
thats not how it works buddy
>>63743723
TRUMP 2016 MAGA
The Marshall Mathers LP (Columbia, 2000) refines that approach. Eminem's salacious fantasies of Britney Spears and other assorted "bitches", "sluts" and "faggots" are crowd-pleasers (if the crowd is morbid enough, as crowds tend to be), but the art is elsewhere: Stan (whose rude male rap alternates with an angelic female lullaby over sounds of a storm and a Neil Young-ian rhythm) and Kim (whose thundering, symphonic score punctuates the screams of two arguing lovers and contrasts with a romantic melody a` la Francoise Hardy) are psychodramas (not only songs) that force hyper-realism into rap music the same way the Doors forced drugs into pop music.
It is not a coincidence that Mathers' tragic peak comes with the post-Morrison Freudian nightmare of Kill You, a rap (paced by brutal pauses) that sweeps away any remaining taboos about sex and violence, a conversation piece in which vulgar language becomes "the" poetic language. To emphasize the melodrama, The Way I Am employs even death bells and a Beethoven-ish piano figure, and its rap is as visceral and desperate as Eminem music can be.
When it works, Eminem's pantomime is a force of nature.
On the other hand, The Real Slim Shady is a farcical rigmarole with a vaudeville-esque rhythm, I'm Back is virtually a cabaret number turned rap, Drug Ballad employs a stomping beat, a strummed piano and girl-group backing vocals, Criminal sounds like a mockery of Eminem's own hit My Name Is, and Marshall Mathers is a parody that borrows from Broadway musicals and western soundtracks: Mathers has no respect for his own art.
Mathers is a calculating pop phenomenon (songs alternate with brief spoken interludes of people commenting on Eminem's attitude, of he having oral sex with two guys, etc, the ultimate form of self-glorification) that viscerally exposes calculating pop phenomena.
>>63743635
he sampled aerosmith, dido, and lots of people lol retard
Eminem sux
>>63743482
Because /mu/ are wannabe hipsters and eminem is pretty mainstream.
His lyrics could be better but his flow and technique are among the best you can find.
>>63751032
>implying his metrics aren't GOAT too
>>63743482
This has to be a troll.
>>63743635
>Doesn't sample
This is a disgrace to hip hop.
Hip hop music was built on Turntables and sampling.
Without people like Marly Marl and Afrika Bambataaa hip hop sampling on turntables hip hop wouldnt even exist...
Why would someone who doesn't like black people even want to listen to Hip Hop, Jazz or funk music anyway?
Shouldn't you be listening to skinhead music instead?
>>63752495
skinhead music is black too, by the way.
>people on /mu/ are unironically defending Eminem
how did this board fall so far?
>>63743635
>doesn't sample like unsophisticated nignogs
Most if not all of his good stuff is produced by Dre
>>63743482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA8n5NvacYc
>>63743635
>Hating on Killa Cam
>>63743635
agreed
except the sample thing, everyone samples, but the majority of his songs are somewhat original
but he has been really bad these last few years, his last great album was relapse.
this board never talks about Eminem, glorious day for /mu/
>>63750868
THIS
fuck man I have this song on every playlist, I wish he would remaster this song.
[spoiler]EVERY PLZ LISTEN[/spoiler]
>>63743723
TRUMP 2016 MAGA
>>63743723
>TRUMP 2016 MAGA
Great entertaining rapper that is very unique. Better than 90% of those Future imposters nowadays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMhN-hfMtY was a really cool and song, matter of fact most of his old songs are still referencable like moms spaghetti.
Hate his fan base, and he is seen as a god by kids. He is a great musician but people hate him cuz of his fanbase.
>>63743723
TRUMP 2016 MAGA
>>63743723
joke's on you i don't have a cat
>>63753955
Muh nigga. This thing is straight fire. Funny to see how he went from having an incredible taste in beats (his fucking work with Skam...) to his godawful taste nowdays.
>>63743723
TRUMP 2016 MAGA
>>63743482
because he's popular
>>63747763
>>63747938
Rewind is pretty good actually. I never listened to any Nas albums in their entirely except illmatic because almost everything I heard that wans't on Illmatic I hate.
>>63752495
Someone can dislike blacks but enjoy musical genres they helped being about.
>>63750017
>I don't listen to meme rap
>List includes many shit and/or meme rappers
>Posts this is a thread about the largest meme rapper to grace the genre
>>63743723
TRUMP 2016 MAGA
>>63750870
Por favor... para. A sério. Ninguém quer saber do Sam à anos. A sério, deixa-o morrer. Melhor, não fales de Portugal.
