ITT: Defend why you like your favorite album using technical terminology and music theory
If you can't do so without veering into buzzwords ("Textures, composition, the list goes on..."), then:
>Go back to RYM where your stupidity circlejerk won't be called out
>Be honest about your taste and listen to the Top 40 music geared for uneducated anti-intellectuals like yourself
>Start studying up on music theory and don't come back until you have five years under your belt
>>63742172
So hows middle school band going for ya kid?
making the same thread again isn't suddenly going to make it not retarded
>>63742196
>ad hominem argument
Typical anti-intellectual. What's your favorite composer? Can you even name one? What about your favorite time signature? Favorite classical style cellist, pianist, and violinist?
Let me guess, you enjoy Coil, Comus, and This Heat because they're "influential, interesting, experimental, and strange"?
>>63742172
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>63742256
idk this sounds like projection
I know music theory because I learned it by ear. I don't have formal training but I have been playing guitar, bass and singing for 10 years, I've been in several bands and have played for years professionally.
I honestly don't know what my favorite album is right now.
>>63742560
this whole meme is projection
>>63742172
my fav album is talk talk's laughing stock
i like it cause the music and the singing is well good innit
>>63742577
It actually makes perfect sense. I don't blame Op for trying to make a thread where people actually know what they're talking about.
In the aeroplane over the sea
>>inb4, best meme ever
>>63742172
I can't believe your real
>>63742172
>trying hard to be superior
>has a "favorite anything"
I see you just joined the conservatory, come back when you're less arrongantly proud of it, kid.
>>63742614
Lol your favorite song is a 4 chord song by a hipster with mediocre singing abilities. Congrats pleb.
>>63742614
IIIII LOOOOVE YOOUUUUU JEEEEEESUSSSSSSS CUH-RRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISTTT
its good
>>63742603
i don't think op actually knows what he's talking about
>>63742710
I think he does. The use of the word textures to describe different instruments on /mu/ always makes me cringe. I get where he's coming from and /mu/ would be a lot better if everyone played music and/or knew theory.
You'll never understand unless you learn, you really all are fucking plebs.
>>63742172
alright then lets fucking hear it OP whats your favorite album cuck?
i love the cure to death that is my reason
>>63742757
>you can't enjoy music unless you know theory
>>63742757
Nice try OP :^)
>>63742805
lupe the sorrow morrow
>>63742562
>i learned music theory by ear
that's... not what music theory is
you learned melody, rhythm, or have learned a sort of instinctual musical intelligence..
music theory is read off of paper, things like the circle of fifths, or reading a scale written into the treble cleft
>>63742809
Not what I said, I see you're bad at reading comprehension as well.
>>63742819
Nope. Not wasting my time screenshotting and everything for you. He's not the only one here who actually understands music enough to create it and do it well.
>people are STILL falling for this
>>63742842
Yes, that's the visual representation of it. If you understand these concepts enough to apply them, you have learned music theory to some significant extent. I understand the circle of fifths, can play several scales, time signatures and apply them.
>>63742861
aren't you the smug "muh intellectual legacy" guy
shouldn't you agree?
>>63742846
>Not what I said, I see you're bad at reading comprehension as well.
except that's what op thinks
>>63742889
He didn't say you couldn't enjoy it, but that your taste is inferior and so is your understanding of music.
> This entire thread
>>63742937
Good. Do it or learn about music before you post.
>>63742930
>He didn't say you couldn't enjoy it, but that your taste is inferior and so is your understanding of music.
>op is telling anyone who doesn't know theory to leave /mu/
>>63742172
What if I just don't want to?
There is no charm left in music when you break it into so many composite parts.
>>63742930
Still as equally pretentious and cringy
>>63742172
If you don't like it here then what the actual fuck are you doing. Just create a website where you and your music theory pals can jerk your microdicks to how glorious and superior you are.
>>63742256
you're trying really hard to come across as the more intelligent one but you just sound like a kid in 11th grade music theory who listens to new dream theater albums.
>>63743003
It's not pretentious if it's true. If you were a mechanic for 10 years and some asshole who can't even change his oil tells you what works best when it comes to cares, you would laugh in his fucking face.
>>63743086
would it be better if people here just said what they liked the most?
why can't you have a subjective opinion on something without knowing any theory? no claims of what's the *best*, just what they prefer
>>63743086
Aaand you're wrong once again. Car systems are not subjective like music.
>>63743106
No man, you're delusional if you don't see a bunch of pretentious little faggots insulting people for their taste in music when they know close to nothing about music.
>>63743128
>this
>>63743136
>a bunch of pretentious little faggots insulting people for their taste in music when they know close to nothing about music.
Oh, so kinda like what OP's doing then?
>>63743136
yeah, the people who insult and demean people for their taste need to fuck off
but that doesn't mean that you have to know theory to have a favorite album or have preferences
just because there are some pretentious twats here doesn't mean you have to overreact and call out practically the whole board
>>63743148
But you don't get it anon! He knows music theory. He's really really super smart!
>>63743128
Decent point, but music isn't entirely subjective either. It's not difficult to determine the relative complexity of two songs. I constantly see music being praised as great when it's a 4 chord or less pop song disguised with different sounding instruments, vocals and effects, while that same person will bash someone else for liking a significantly more complex song, directly attacking the complexity of the music.
>>63743148
You don't know what pretentious means.
>>63743136
It's just a bit of banter, why are you taking It so seriously?
>>63743177
>I constantly see music being praised as great when it's a 4 chord or less pop song disguised with different sounding instruments, vocals and effects, while that same person will bash someone else for liking a significantly more complex song
...Do you realise that this is EXACTLY what your whole little "poseurcore" movement has been trying to propagate this entire time?
>>63743192
> Pretentious: having an undeserved sense of superiority
Yep that's exactly what's going on
>>63743177
complexity does not equal quality. just because you can use xenharmonic microtonal n-waves in a song doesn't mean you should, or that it'll sound good. the reason people like 4-chord songs? they sound good without needing unnecessary complexity.
>>63743177
Are you saying complexity is the only thing that factors in to music bring good?
>>63742172
>Start studying up on music theory and don't come back until you have five years under your belt
Memes aside what's the best way to do this besides going to college? The sticky has some nice stuff but I assume there's more out there
>>63743204
well, in theory those people have been bashing the kids that like that music without any understanding of it and the people who like that music and stigmatize less "complex" music
but those people practically don't exist here anymore as far as i can tell, and they're certainly not enough of a problem to warrant the kind of shitposting that's been killing this board slowly
>>63743177
The mistake you're making this time is that you're equating complexity with quality.
>>63743177
I understand where you're coming from, but recording and mixing are half of what makes music, two songs that may look identical in a music sheet can be completely different, it can completely make or break a record
The three pieces all sound different but are identifiably by Cerha. Neun Bagatellen is romantic and brambly like Schonberg but austere like Gubaidulina, so combines my two favorite composers. Nothing sounds derivative though, or has typical contemporary cliches like overusing the harmonic series or knocking off Ives. There are tons of nice and recognizable harmonies, the pieces seem structured, have an "arc" where appropriate and don't last too long, and generally some emotional component. Recording's good enough.
I don't know theory but at the same time, I don't know what you're even looking for if the theory you're name dropping is the circle of fifths and time signatures. That's very middle school. Everyone knows theory is descriptive anyway.
>>63743256
>falling for it
>>63743265
Bait posts provide an opportunity for serious discussion though
>>63742172
>ITT: Defend why you like your favorite album using technical terminology and music theory
Defend from who?
You?
Sorry, I don't see any real need to.
>>63743177
what makes complexity better? it seems like you've spent some time thinking about music theory, and almost no time thinking about music.
this thread is cancer
>>63743344
if the OP(s) of these threads could be reasoned with maybe they would stop
but as is these threads are nothing but garbage and insults
>>63743204
>>63743225
>>63743233
>>63743242
>>63743245
>>63743310
Jesus christ you clowns, I specified people directly addressing the relative complexity of songs.
>>63743054
This desu senpai
>>63742256
>favorite time signature
i've never cringed so hard
>>63743235
musictheory.net goes p in depth for normie uses
I learned theory in college and it's the best way IMO
but I also think learning theory is dumb if you aren't planning to be a musician
I feel like theory has more to do with playing and understanding music than just casually listening to it and it sure isn't going to make you suddenly explain why you like harsh noise or whatever meme magic
>>63742951
epic
