Bach cantata edition
Post your favourite.
Post favourite interpretations
Is there a better collection of works than the Leipzig cantatas in the western canon? Post suggestions.
Mega Links (-CLT and Calcium's charts since the folders no longer work, charts available upon request)
>General folder. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General folder #2. Mostly Romantic up to 20th century/modern, but also includes Bach and Mozart subfolders
https://mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
>General folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>Debussy Folder: Recordings of Debussy's most important/famous works
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Opera folder: Construction in progress. Features recorded productions of various operas
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Renaissance Folder: Paired with a chart.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
Is it even worth listening to any performance other than Suzuki?
>>63689884
Bach Cantata= Bachata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw8_Rnu9QxM
>>63690059
i absolutely love these. i like oldschool bach.
>>63689884
>Post your favourite.
:Are we talking strictly cantatas here? Nevermind, that doesn't seem to be the case. It's simply the name of the thread:
As for classical, my favorite "style" is the baroque. You probably already know my favorites (surprise right?). Here is one that might not be that well known outside of Scandinavia though, and who is one of my favorite composers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9rzix8BtJY
As far as opera is concerned, this is easily my favorite rendition of Nessun Dorma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT09SI0LAjg
>>63690905
are you braindead
>>63691042
>are you braindead
I hope not, did I misinterpret the purpose of the thread? I am a bit drunk. Perhaps it's time to go for sleep.
>>63690059
Harnoncourt's are very good, but unfortunately he never got to do a complete cycle. It was split between him and Leonhardt, which, while good, isn't as convincing.
bump
>>63692185
>tfw SDF will never upload that Busch/Serkin stuff he has
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5ohobcKb8
who listens to Bach for pleasure, honestly
>>63693244
which release was it in particular
>>63689884
Best Bach Chaccone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjYQlmpS69k
So fucking good. I love Ehnes
>>63693244
pretty sure that stuff exists on the internet already
You guys like Salonen right?
>>63695203
yeah
>>63691179
OP probably meant post your favourite work of Bach.
>>63693244
Why do you need it specifically from him? It's probably all over the internet.
Come listen to classical with us
http://mutantradio.org/player
Should be classical for the next ~24 hours unless if something fucks up
can anyone recommend some obscure beautiful late-romantic piano pieces?
Want something different to learn
Anyone know the name of this piece?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-KNMYLs86L6d3FiZ205MkhJcTA
>that sudden shift to G minor in the second movement of Dvorak's cello concerto
What are some other moments like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m9z6tOj5ds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AByhhZAYwuA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFat-8HOOgs
Can anyone recommend some challenging, avant-garde modern or pre-modern classical?
>>63701300
>>63701318
by pre-modern I mean Debussy or later
>>63701300
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7M0MZ424g0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Gzrake8nI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hhe2aWKxXU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4EIx0XzPzg
>>63701363
Fantastic, thanks.
>>63701458
Plenty more where that came from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7b21f4-pW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD73U4x9Tgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQgLU0gjPtI
>>63701361
>DeBussy or later
Strauss?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFSLw2UWdB8
>>63701537
>challenging
*buzzer of failure sounds*
The Engulfed Cathedral ftw.
>>63701361
Schoenberg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFk7URhY6X4
Whats the name of the piece in the beginning of this video?
Most of contemporary classical is leftist pseudointellectual trash. Same happens in architecture, literature etc. I don't think Burke would approve the work of Ligeti.
>>63703412
Most of classical have been trash for most of its existence, that's nothing new.
I'm really liking the John Gardiner interpretations of the Bach Cantatas, seems like an interesting project in general. His Mass in B minor from last year is also quite good.
Can anyone rec me stuff with a choir? Doesn't really matter what, just really been loving choirs recently (especially Berlioz' Grande Messe des Morts by Colin Davis).
>>63703511
>>63703434
By most, my friend, I mean most of what is considered extremely good by critics. Most of the current 'great composers'. I find Ligeti distasteful. I have little taste for atonality also. People tend to think that, just because there is a 'theory' behind it, then it must surely be good, which is not at all true. There are countless theories behind the blocks of concrete which you see everywhere in the streets, but that doesn't make any of them aesthetically superior to a common British country house of the 16th century.
>>63703511
I feel like the new B Minor Mass from Gardiner is too frantic at points. The Cum Sancto Spirito is evening faster than the last time around and it just feels frenzied instead of joyful.
I think that Gardiner's Bach is good on the whole though. Sometimes I feel like Gardiner puts a bit too much 'ego' into his performances, to the point that the piece itself becomes secondary to whatever Gardiner is trying to convey. It's really only when confronted by Bach that this seems to diminish and that's why they're actually pretty great.
>>63703306
So, does anyone know it?
I remember hearing it some five years ago but I don't think I ever listened to it again. I don't even remember if it's really classical or just some tune from a movie or anything. It sounds like it could be the beginning of a Bach aria but I'm not sure.
>>63703798
It's the opening of the 'Christe Eleison' from Bach's B Minor Mass
>>63703762
yeah I can definitely see that happening, I haven't heard anything but his Bach stuff though, maybe I'll check some stuff out soon. I agree with you on the Mass in B minor (that's mostly why I said 'quite good').
>>63703541
Thanks! This seems helpful.
>>63703838
Oh Jesus, how did I not remember it?
How many recordings do you listen to in a day?
I listen too little music, I think. Ten recordings a month at most. I am truly a disgusting little man.
>>63703762
I kind of liked those new extremes. Gardiner has unbuttoned over the past decade and come into his own more and more, in my opinion. You might not agree with what he has to say, but there's more interesting things there than there was say, in the 90s or 80s.
what up senpai?
chillin with Dvorák's 13th rn and waiting in an airport
memm
I want to learn about music theory and history but my current schedule and earnings (in addition to my autism) are not too good to start taking lessons at this moment
can you guys give me any resources (books, pages, videos) so I can try and learn for myself in the meantime
i figured i'd ask here since it's probably of the most knowledgeable places about music in mu and all
>>63705810
https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/S63664747
https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/S60908932
who has the best rendition of moonlight sonata?
>>63706087
Eh. Just get a Richter, Schnabel, or Solomom and be done with it.
>81 CDs of the best painist ever are now on Pippo
What're you gonna listen to for Haydn's birthday today?
>>63707399
Some Bach cantata to celebrate Bach's birthday instead.
>>63707399
The Creation obvs
never tires
Can anyone recommend some more great string quartet stuff? I'm obsessed with the third movement of Debussy's string quartet in G minor.
Can someone rec me something of a similar style as this? I'm not certain but it might be called Gregorian?
http://youtu.be/Z96I_LEGdGQ
So, I'm a newbie when it comes to classical and don't really know anything about anything. For whatever reason I don't really care about any of the big legends like Mozart, Beethoven, Bach and so on, but I'm really enjoying Bartók and Penderecki. I have two questions:
>Am I a lost cause?
>What should I try next?
>>63709580
No, you just like modern stuff. Listen to newer composers and compositions. We don't all need to like the same thing.
I am going to go and watch Verdi's Falstaff for the first time. So excited. Can anyone recommend a good (the best) recording?
>>63709828
The Herbert Von Karajan recording. Additionally, for the play I recommend the Orson Welles film. But Von Karajan conducted the best Falstaff.
>>63709580
Do you know Music Theory? Knowing how music works helps a lot, especially when listening to the oldies. You appreciate the complex nature and nuances more.
>>63710085
Thanks. Chimes at Midnight? I've only seen the battlefield scenes from the film, but they are great. I'll make sure to see it soon
>>63710111
I'm not the guy and this may sound weird, but can you give an example of how an understanding of musical theory helps you appreciate classical music more? I'm not trying to say that it doesn't, I believe that it does, but I just have no concept of what people mean by that.
>>63709080
Listen to Janacek, Grieg, Enescu, Bartok, Schoenberg. All have great quartets
>>63709080
>>63710272
Janacek's first quartet is legendary.
>>63705810
musictheory.net
>>63704716
smoke a huge blunt
then listen to shostakovich's 13th (sq)
>>63710238
For example, let's say you are listening to a fugue. A common practice in fugue is to repeat a central theme with variations in structure. Armed with this knowledge and an understanding of transposition, which is actually one of the simplest music theory concepts, you might be able to detect when a fugue's central theme has been repeated, transposed, diminuted/augmented (shortened or lengthened in timing), inverted (played "upside down"), or played in reverse.
>>63701361
>by pre-modern I mean Debussy or later
Debussy is modern.
>>63707188
>no Friedman
>>63710085
>But Von Karajan conducted the best Falstaff.
Toscanini.
>>63705810
What do you know already and what do you want to do with it?
>>63712300
I don't really care about the Moonlight Sonata that much so I barely listen to that many versions of it. Hofmann has a really nice one too, but it's in wretched quality iirc.
>>63705992
thanks friend, downloaded what was up
>>63711352
this is useful too, thanks
>>63712300
>What do you know already
very little, I took music for two years in high school but a lot of it was history or playing flute. got little out of it and most of it it's forgotten by now
i know reading basic stuff on music sheets (not sure if it's called like that) but I'm not familiar with scales or intervals
i'm not natively english and i was taught the chromatic scale as do re mi instead of with letters, does it make a difference?
>what do you want to do with it?
I wanna improve and learn more, I wanna play an instrument eventually anyway but also to get more out of music and know about the things I'm enjoying and why, instead of just 'liking it'
Ded
Death and Transfiguration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc2hjkMmtv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OmmC8SpIm0
>>63715753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1mHFNpuTvU
the bass chord at the end spells "DEAD"
>>63716118
Wagner a cheeky cunt
>>63716272
that's stravinsky
>>63716899
I think he meant >>63715753
What piano piece is this?
https://clyp.it/mvjnrp25
>>63717071
klavierstucke XI
>>63717277
that's not it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i5D4ZW8O9o