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>>63685898
He should start using power tools and change his name to Masami Makita.
Why that picture of Akita-san? You know he doesn't use his laptop anymore.
Have any of you seen Hijokaidan on their US tour? I saw them in Baltimore. Great show. People were moshing to the fucking JPop group that were with them.
https://special6death.bandcamp.com/
came across this yesterday
layered guitar noise
Did anyone hear the new Gero album?
>Genres: Noise, Post-Punk, J-Pop
noise thread
is there any way to make money as a noise musician? i aspire to be a noise artist full time
>>63686971
the only noise artists that I know of who subsist mostly off of noise all run record labels.
>>63686886
I think those are fake ratings
>>63686971
no
even the biggest names in the game have day jobs
the few noise artists who have found a way to make a living off of involvement in art either also run highly successful labels, tour all the time, own and run record stores or all of the above
>>63687026
>You will never be a salaryman that plays noise shows on weekends
>>63687005
>>63687026
so who are the ones who can live off their music? merzbow i guess, maybe prurient, anyone else?
>>63687167
iirc merzbow has a day job but that info may be out of date or just wrong. I was thinking of fernow and aspa. but especially with aspa he is also pretty big in black metal so he's not just making money off noise
>>63687167
akita writes for magazines and shit, he doesn't make a living off of noise
fernow makes a living off of it but he's not a good example to look at considering all the various other activities he's involved in or has been involved in(the hospital record store/distro, his time with cold cave, the freak success of vatican shadow and all the touring he did in support of it, hospital's several major crossover success periods and so on). if all he had going for him was prurient there's no way he would be able to live off it.
dilloway runs a record store and a highly regarded label/distro.
so does ron lessard.
so does mikko aspa(though in his case i'm pretty certain that his record store and the northern heritage label/distro are what allows him to not have to take up a "proper" job, not freak animal).
>>63686971
I remember trying to make harsh noise for some time. Never thought of making any money, I would be glad if I found some audience at least
>>63686886
I've heard about it. It's great that Juntaro is making music again.
>>63687017
That wouldn't surprise me if they were fake genre labels.
>>63687331
Mikko Aspa also makes mad bank in Deathspell Omega, right?
>>63686392
I was there. Had a good time. Birth Defects and Jeff Carey were great as well.
Those moshers were fucking annoying. I got bashed into by one of them who was wearing a face mask like some weeb. It was an interesting crowd.
>>63687669
>I got bashed into by one of them who was wearing a face mask like some weeb
Ha, I was right next to that dude.
>>63687552
i doubt it, especially considering that DSO never have and most likely never will go on a tour.
i can't imagine deathspell omega have sold more than a few dozen thousand records(and even that might be an overestimate) throughout their existence, and the bulk of that money usually goes to the people involved with the manufacturing and release of those records. split whatever is leftover for the band between however many members they have(and i doubt there's less than 4 of them) and you don't end up with much.
>>63687750
>and i doubt there's less than 4 of them
Only 3 dudes, actually
>>63687846
i stand corrected then.
>>63686886
is it just juntaro or are there other people involved?
>>63690748
As far as I can tell its just him
there's a new gero album? what's it called?
>>63692858
Moenai Hai (燃えない灰)
>>63693986
>Moenai Hai
damn....anyway i could download or stream this?
>>63694081
Nope. Comes out in just under 3 weeks.
>>63694087
cool
what're you guys listening to?
I got killing sound - s/t on, it's cool noisy droney type stuff similar to the least beat oriented end of what subtext puts out. I've been really enamored with stuff similar to this recently.
https://soundcloud.com/mike-garza-38/steeplechase-my-neighbor-satan-sensual-enjoyment
>>63695538
Been listening to Ain Soph's II as of late
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FIdNRZ_0g
>>63695599
fuck yes, excellent band. I was recently introduced to their work
https://soundcloud.com/nxyt
>>63695538
some really great industrial/rhythmic noise
>>63695555
>>63697745
fuck off
>>63697789
maybe you should fuck off, faggot
>>63698824
how about you start touring? play live? make actual ANALOGUE harsh noise? fuck off with your digital noise you faggot. the hometown compilation killed /noise/
>opens audacity
>records fart
>MAXIMUM VOLUME
>hey guys i'm the next merzbau
just fuck off omg
>>63699596
>being this mad on a music board about something that's not music
>>63699632
hope you all enjoyed the subtle joke
>>63699596
hi johnny, it's been a while
>>63699596
>>63699632
>caring about anything, ever
>>63699725
>caring about caring about others caring
>>63699761
touche
https://industrialhydrophobia.bandcamp.com/album/got-the-time
Guys here's my noise that's objectively bad because it breaks rules (On Bandcamp) in a genre that is meant to be anti-music and have no rules on what is what.
About to listen to this.
>>63685898
Can anyone recommend me albums where the noise works with the song structures like Psychocandy? I'm having a hard time finding noisepop/rock albums that appeal to me. I'm also kinda getting into Sonic Youth, EVOL sounds really nice so far.
>>63687846
disinfo
it's actually 17 guys
>>63703146
this isn't really the thread for this
we discuss noise, industrial, power electronics etc here, you should look for those noise rock/shoegaze threads
>>63686886
I contacted Lust Vessel and have a tape and cd copy on the way. If any anons down under want a cd, I can hook you up once I get some distro copies sent over.
>>63699596
I'm not convinced you actually care about noise as much as you do the image associated with it. The hometown compilation was fine and guess what newfag, we'd been sharing our own noise and discussing making comps since these threads started. You know what actually killed these threads? People like you who are insecure and think you know what noise " means" when you just sit here and jerk off about the same artists without any actual discussion. You don't care about noise.
>>63699842
>meant to be anti-music
Please stop with this shit. The people who think noise has a singular agenda are almost as bad as the tape label elitist s.
>>63704358
Well he's not wrong, though it is a fairly narrow view of noise. It has become more than simply anti-noise, or the musical equivalent of dadaism, though there are very much still people who thrive in creating this kind of reading of noise. It's not wrong, just somewhat shallow
>>63704538
By the assumption of the genre in general encapsulating this sentiment, he IS wrong. I understand the history of noise and I understand the initial motivations of some of Europe and Japan's key players. Regardless, attaching this label to all of noise narrows its value down and neglects to mention the aural importance of noise in its production, composition, and sound, thus giving the anti-bandcamp wannabes more fuel. I don't attach myself to this medium because of an art movement or a statement - I actually listen to the stuff.
>>63704999
Very true, this is what I was getting at when I said its become more than just anti-music. Those of us who actively consume noise generally wont care too much about noise posted on such sites. That being said, some of my favourite stuff has been found on random soundclouds and blogspot pages, or even just linked here. I've always maintained the position that a good visual aesthetic which compliments the music is paramount to getting your stuff noticed.
For the record I've never heard of any tape label elitists, though I definitely see a preference towards this medium among noise makers and listeners, for better or worse.
if you think noise has any philosophy at all you are a pretentious fuckwit.
>>63705814
Well, not actually, but whatever.
>>63705859
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ZbKAlu228
tell me about the amazing art college stuff they're doing, whoa i think that was a reference to ancient greece au contrair oo la la
>>63705302
>though I definitely see a preference towards this medium among noise makers and listeners, for better or worse.
tapes and home-recording noise artists/labels have a long history together, it's only natural
CD-Rs were getting pretty popular throughout the 2000s, up to the point where some people thought they might replace tapes as the go-to affordable DIY friendly format for releases, but they seem to have died off for the most part
>>63705814
if you think it doesn't have a philosophy you're absolutely clueless regarding the genre's history or the ideas behind it
>>63705918
>>63705859
this is what's wrong with noise, no there is no meaning and your parents will never like it. but yet you bring this bacon 4chan /mu/ posting style
>>63705974
show me the errors of my ways, o wise one
>>63706026
make another chart and ill proofread it <:^)
>>63705814
if you think any classical, traditional or popular music has any philosophy, you are pretentious shithead. kys.
>>63706036
what sort of chart
>>63705974
>there is no meaning
No, you're just ignoring whatever meaning is ascribed by the artist, as well as the fact that no meaning is a meaning in itself. One of the cornerstones of post-modern art is the rise of the audience in creating meaning
one of these threads' biggest problem is the insecurity of the people posting in them about how knowledgeable they are about this shit and the way that said insecurity manifests itself in the way they humor each and every epic memer or dilettante that comes through trying to irritate them or beg for spoonfeeding
learn to ignore these fucking people
>>63695538
>similar to least beat oriented Subtext releases
This sounds right up my alley.
>>63706384
Honestly I was thinking of a different album when I wrote that description because its been a while since I last listened to KS. Its still not far off and I think youll like KS, but Iethink I may have been thinking of peder mannerfelt - lines describing circles. That may not be right either, dunno
neat
>>63706738
Whatever a recs a rec and I'll take it
>>63708441
>>63708441
Look up fact magazine's article on "power ambient" if you want more stuf like that.
Is noise music the aural equivalent of conceptual art? I mean, come on, it just fucking sucks.
>>63709994
That's just like your opinion, man
>>63709994
yeah man its like so symbolic of life and liberty, pursuit of happiness just look at this lyric:
kssssshhhhhh
wow so deep there is a post modern meaning to that it means that uhhh
>>63695538
raksha mancham – the dance of the judgement of the dead
nice, rhythmic old school industrial.
>>63711155
forgot link, sorry
http://www.mediafire.com/download/j9pbsx6a50nhx2e/The+Dance+Of+The+Judgement+Of+The+Dead.rar
>>63686392
just saw them at the Austin Noisefest. Fucking incredible.
pretty embarrassing for all the local Austin acts to play on the same show, though. Kind of unfair, but anytime a Japanese artist would take the stage it would just completely blow away and destroy any of the locals.
>>63711304
is this you lol
>>63711517
Who was the fascist so I can buy all their merch
>>63711775
fuck off /pol/tard
>>63711791
Never been there, but stay mad.
>>63710077
Stop posting anytime. We get it, you don't like noise. That's subjective and it's okay.
>>63711845
i like noise i just don't like how people make it seem pretentious when its just sounds
>>63711517
what a fag lel
>>63711775
genocide lolita, maybe? i know he's part of that austin crew
his shit is awful though
>>63711791
RAISE YOUR RIGHT ARM AND SHOW ME WHERE YOU STAND
>>63711870
read a fucking book, you retard
shit, you don't even have to read a book, just read an interview with any prominent noise artist
>>63711517
>is this you lol
no
>>63711775
i dunno, I got there kinda late to avoid all the terrible local acts so I'm assuming its one of those. there was some guy professing his support of donald trump and doing white power shit in typical boring noise fashion, dunno why anyone cared (unless that facebook post is a joke too)
>>63686392
Just saw them last night in NOLA. Amazing show.
>>63711304
>but anytime a Japanese artist would take the stage it would just completely blow away and destroy any of the locals.
i'm having a hard time believing T.E.F. and the ramirez projects wouldn't at least match hijokaidan live
>>63713045
my boy's still got it
did you attend this?
>>63713231
no i wish
>>63695599
>Ain Soph
I have their album Aurora but it's just french chansons or something, what's up with that lol
>>63713559
Listen to their albums I, II, III, Ars Regia, and their split with Sigillum S. Classic ritual industrial. In the 90s they turned to folk and rock music.
>>63713661
aight thanks, I have 1 already but never heard it.
Any love for Hybryds? Pic related is pretty noisey/ritual.
This was good. ;)
Willie B. just tried to announce something in Facebook, but his link was broken. Some people are claiming it's new Whitehouse, but I don't know how true that could be.
>>63715014
fuck, i'm curious as hell about this
>>63714311
is that winky face supposed to indicate sarcasm? i loved that album and was at the release party yesterday
frederikke put on a fantastic show, first time seeing her live but hopefully not the last
what's the best noise label?
>>63716552
Hosp
>>63716552
Noise labels vary so much in time between releases and quality of music that it's nearly impossible to discern which ones are the best.
For my money, I would say RRR, just for sheer influence.
>>63716552
there's this real good one called "eat shit, tripfag"
why did the BRR video get deleted? dumbass mod
>>63717343
Because you keep spamming your stupid uninspired shit here and nobody wants you around.
>>63717370
lol do we have an avant janny now.
>>63717396
BRR's bullshit's been getting deleted from these threads for a few months now. Someone up there knows about his idiocy
>>63717370
johnny is austin's favorite son when it comes to noise though
pedestrian deposit, ramirez, rodger stella, gx larsen, crumer, all paid their respects to the boy at one point
>>63717450
Nobody cares, he's an idiot who spams his shit on every noise blog and acts like a faggot and gets banned from them all as a result. He doesn't care about his work and creates shitty covers and uninspired titles for his generic output.
>>63717449
so posting a video of him posting a historical noise fest is "bullshit" now? maybe that guy "up there" should mind his business.
>tfw birdseed is fucking great
>tfw no one compares death grips to whitehouse
>>63717511
Go get stabbed again, Johnny
>>63717546
make a tripcode janny, i'm not even johnny
>>63717523
>tfw no one compares death grips to whitehouse
thank fuck for that, these threads are going through a rough enough patch without faggot death grips children cluttering them
>>63717635
The threads are going through a rough patch because they aren't trying to include others and expand the potential fanbase of noise
>>63717703
No, nobody posts about anything. Nobody discusses anything. It's share this, I like this artist that we've talked about before, and a random bandcamp link once in a blue moon without any identification of who they are, why they're doing what they're doing, what they like, etc.. When people here actually start talking about noise, these threads will be "good".
>>63717751
>noise fans not being social or talkative
color me shocked
>>63717751
>Doesn't talk about noise
>>63717786
I do plenty of times, but nobody here seems to be interested in anything but posting share links and saying "yeah, that's cool. Did you hear the new X?"
>>63717703
the way i remember it, the most decent phases of this general were when it was just the same bunch of people talking noise with nothing else
the more complicated things got with activities beyond chat or with people beyond that (now largely departed, unfortunately) crew showing up and asking to be spoonfed or asking the same questions which a google search would answer for the 50th time or to shove their first time fucking around in audacity in everyone's faces, the more tense and shitty these threads tended to become
>>63717876
of course they are all gone, you made a compilation and let anyone get in. most of those people were probably like, "lol, i bet they'll take anything"
>>63718015
So you didn't listen to the compilation then?
>>63718015
i had nothing to do with the compilation and was mostly absent from the threads during that time but yeah, that seems to have been the beginning of this problematic period
i remember the threads being made and somewhat active all throughout autumn and early winter and being pretty okay, then starting with january they went to shit
>>63713231
>i'm having a hard time believing T.E.F. and the ramirez projects wouldn't at least match hijokaidan live
hahahaha no
>>63714311
definitely one of her best releases so far
>>63715390
fuck im jealous. anything crazy go down at the show?
>>63717450
for what he does in terms of putting on shows, organizing shit, making things happen for noise-based things in Austin, yeah he deserves some credit. but his music output is complete garbage.
>>63719014
i wouldn't fanboy so hard, their set wasn't exactly that crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSLM99tYpRo
>>63703146
HEY! YOUNG MAN!
YA BETTER LISTEN TO ME!
IF YOU WANNA... HAVE A GOOD EXPERIENCE
WHEN
YOU
LISTEN
TO
SISTER
YOUNG MAN!
DO YOU HAVE THE MP3?
YOUNG MAN!
WELL THEN YOU BETTER DELETE
THE
SONG
CALLED
MASTER-
DIk
*BAM* *BAM* *BAM* *BAM*
CAUSE ITS NOT PAAAART OF THE ORIGINAL
TRACK-LISTING
No, it's not PAAART of the original track-listing
AND it'll ruin the album as a closer
>>63719014
i know how much glorious nipponoise tugs on your weeb heartstrings, but BLJ is the quintessential live noise unit(at least as long as there's people onstage who know what they're doing, which i'm sure was the case this time as it was an austin show) and TEF can bring it like not many others in that particular field of noise
>>63717811
still better than meta posting.
>>63687104
That's not even that ambitious of a life goal. Just do it.
>>63719217
>talking about Austin acts
>mention BLJ
not austin
>mention TEF
not austin
good work.
>>63719380
Not really. You're just in blissful ignorance as you recycle the same posts. That's why generals are 99% garbage. At least talking about problems stimulates something and ostensibly gives room for improvement if you're willing.
>>63720066
>talking about Austin acts
no? just other acts who played the fest
>>63720134
was comparing local Austin acts to the Japanese acts.
and i caught the BLJ set, it was okay.
Anyone else make their own instruments via circuit-bending?
If not, I highly recommend it.
Any classicalfags have PDF to CPE Bach Harpsichord Concerto in A major H. 437 W. 39? Great piece, want to learn it, no fucking sheet music to be found.
Here's a recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H67mwVbTxQA
>>63720413
I think you may have the wrong thread mate
Would you go to Japan to see The Gerogerigegege?
>>63720674
i wouldn't go to my town pub to see the gerogerigegege, much less japan
comedy noise is shit
>>63720718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50-I3eSL9uw
this is what real noise is all about
>>63720674
Gero 30 is like 70 years old, so I don't think he really can do the stage antics he used to. Yamanouchi looks like a burnt out shell of a man these days.
So, no. Maybe if we went back a few decades.
>>63720951
are they both back together? i thought gero 30 was in a mental ward and never heard form again or something
>>63720951
Yamanouchi doesn't even crossdress anymore. What happened?
Does anybody have anything on this? A link? Digital files? Anything???
I remember about a month or so ago somebody posted a youtube video to this and I really enjoyed it. Now, I can't find it anywhere. Not on what.cd, ss, rutracker, anywhere.
It sucks how it's an old release limited to 100 copies, but if someone knows where I can find this that'll be greatly appreciated.
>>63720895
nah, it's shit
it's not entertaining, it's not intriguing, and with the ascent of filesharing the big mystery element of never knowing what to expect when you buy a gero record is totally flattened and gone as well
the gerogerigegege is one of the dullest noise cult bands ever
if they weren't weeb-bait nobody would give a fuck about them
>>63721288
idk man i think that performance sounds really true
>>63721288
this is the opinion of someone who only has listened to tokyo anal dynamite, which is their most overrated release to date. good job being a fucking idiot and not exploring the rest of their discog, you fucking clown.
>>63685898
https://badnoiserecords.bandcamp.com/album/infernal-pain-of-the-soul
God tier noise
>>63721288
get out
>>63720895
I love this album, by the way. Tatsuya Yoshida appears on one of the performances and plays a vibrator.
>>63721660
I don't know. It is my favorite album of all time, but I can see why Gero fans would think it's overrated.
>>63721660
i've listened to plenty of it
their novelty music is shit that gets old after one listen at best
their "serious" music or "sound art" is beyond banal
it's a shitty band that gets by more on its mythology than the quality of its output, i don't know why that's something worth getting so upset over
for those of you who produce your noise using synthesizers: what synths do you use? What is your process like? I'm looking for synths $500 or under.
>>63723635
i use a rock band keyboard and a free VSTi i downloaded, 3:OSC:8
>>63723705
>3:OSC:8
link plz?
>>63723635
Minibrute run through effects, then that result edited more meticulously in a DAW.
>>63723801
i have a microbrute and i have no idea how to get it to work with renoise.
>over 100 posts and more than 24 hours in the catalog
>not a single good post in the whole thread
increíble
how can a general exist for 2 years and have its posters remain just as ignorant as they started out as being?
how can a general exist on the basis of like 10 people posting the same 10 albums over and over and never saying anything worth saying about them?
>>63725213
not famous enough to post my album X(
>>63685898
I love Rush!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wezdatnTE-c
muh favorite kind of noise
>>63720951
I haven't seen any recent pictures of him. What does he look like now?
>>63721139
Oh buddy trust me, i've been there
Mohr stuff is practically impossible to find, except for a split with Maeror Tri and a 90s 7" record
I remember that the other stuff i could find was on rutracker.
Someone compiled all the releases from an 80s industrial label and uploaded there, so to find it you need to go on discogs, find mohr's labels and research then on rutracker
It's your best shot, good luck
>>63725213
Same old impotent complaining with no effort to make things better. Congratulations on making /noise/ 10 times worse with every post.
>>63727720
This, idc if you said "you made efforts before", honestly all the "noise is shit" posts are shitposts at this point.
Does somebody have the new Jason Crumer?
If I'm submerged in a sea of noise am I really noided?
>>63728739
Is there anywhere I can buy this shit online without ordering the CD ? The shipping is double the price of the CD.
Who /poshisolation/ and /northernelectronics/ here?
>>63729851
you european?
>>63729982
>/poshisolation/
not a fan
there was always something about them that felt weirdly careerist and manufactured, not to mention way too heavily focused on building and maintaining an image
the way they seem to operate solely by latching onto one temporary trend after the other based on the audience which they're trying their best to attract(raw black metal and power electronics in the early days when the fans of those genres were the only ones paying attention, techno, synthpop and Wire writer-baiting"academic" electronic music now that they're going for some sort of haphazard crossover into more profitable and "respectable" waters) always really bugged me as well
their output is pretty middling as well, technically well-made but way too derivative and devoid of an individual flavor. just the new puce mary(and puce mary in general) sounds like a record that could have come on tesco or CMI back in like 1997
i can't imagine anyone giving a shit about any of these releases 20 years from now.
>/northernelectronics/
that's a techno label though, innit?
most of the things that bug me about PI bug me about NE as well though i admit to not being nearly as familiar with their output as i am with PI's
the shit varg is doing feels like a chinese knockoff version of dozzy
>>63730500
Any label/compilation recommendations?
>>63730553
more recent ones or in general?
>>63724721
Should be as simple as running it through an interface into your computer
>>63703876
Can you rip the cd and bonus tape when it arrives? I wanna hear both but I'm flat broke.
How do i release my musix? I dont want to go down the bandcamp sound cloud path, and im not sure performing noise is a thing so idk
>>63730976
>and im not sure performing noise is a thing
huh
>>63731103
well mainly where i am, i have no idea what sort of place you'de perform noise. If its acoustic, folk etc you go the local bar / tavern, if its edm you ask the clubs if you can dj etc. Im not sure about noise though, uni campus maybe?
>>63731138
>Im not sure about noise though, uni campus maybe?
The basement of a local degenerate
>>63731423
Exactly my point Cynthia, it's a very abstract genre, that even though my compositions have proper form I feel as if they would fail to attract any crowd. Thats the problem with noise, I think the stuff I made you need to listen to what isnt there.
I think Ill go back to dj'ing at the club and playing my shitty tracks and big name tracks.
>>63731581
If you're only trying to attract a crowd, you're not getting into noise for the right reasons.
>>63731616
No of course not, Joe.
It's not about attracting a crowd, my concern is with getting my music out so that people have the opportunity to listen to it. I still have the issue of not knowing where to perform live.
I think Ill just upload to mediafire and drop the link somewhere
>>63731714
why would you use mediafire? just use bandcamp/soundcloud like a normal person and figure out which city nearest to you has noise shows and start going to them
>>63730169
yes
>>63731138
Art galleries and record stores sometimes put on Noise shows.
>>63735141
who know who else do? people with soundclouds and bandcamps or facebook
