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http://guitarshredshow.com/main.html - Edition


>Post gear
>Post desired gear
>How long have you been playing?
>Fav guitars?
>Fav guitarists?
>Projects?
>Talk about and play music
>General guitar and bass discussion

Beginner information and FAQ:
>http://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/wiki/index

Music Theory:
>http://www.justinguitar.com/

Guitar chords and inversions
>http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php

String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
>http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/

Floyd Rose Setup Video Tutorial:
>[YouTube] Floyd Rose Setup Part 1 of 7: Introduction (embed) [Embed]
Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar

Impulse Response Pack
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/svtfxjtillrdwt8/Gods+Cab+1.3.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/4n28zkjw0zgmdj9/ASEM+RECTO+V30+L2.wav (embed) (embed)

Free VST downloads (amps and effects simulators):
>http://www.vst4free.com/

ASIO drivers (essential to use VSTs while playing):
>http://www.asio4all.com/

JACK Tutorial for Linux audio production
>http://libremusicproduction.com/articles/demystifying-jack-%E2%80%93-beginners-guide-getting-started-jack

>Advancing Guitarist Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8

>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg

Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd

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>>63636044
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First for Mustang
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>>63654641

that trem handle looks tasty
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next for Marshall MGs are shit tier
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>>63654786
Second.
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What's your favorite pedal, /gg/?
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Any RG Bros here
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>>63654839
yeah

>>63654838
strymon el capistan
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In one thread someone posted something about a shortcut to memorizing the fretboard and it had to do with patterns that repeated every four frets by two strings or something along those lines. All the information was laid out in a way that was easy to remember and move around the fretboard. Ringing any bells?

I've read through everything I saved from the OP and I couldn't find it so I'm pretty sure it's not there.

>>63654838
Either my Paul. C Timmy or Fuzz Solo Junior by VFE

I can't really get any sounds I like out of my Big Muff Pi so I'm going to probably return it. It's also too big for the board I built.
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Been talking to a friend about starting a band and I've already got some material for songs together, i hope she likes them.

I'm also going to start playing with my noiseband again, that should be fun.

>>63654838

I don't know! I love all my pedals but the ones i use most is the OD and MM. I love the sound i got out of my OD though, so probably that.
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>>63654896

what is that knob thing on the power supply? a starver? also who's playing on your laptop lel

good luck anon i hope your friend and you have much fun
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Sup /gg/, I'm a beginner looking to buy my first guitar, would a kit be a good choice? Would probably buy from here.
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/
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>>63654873
it's this pattern

E-0
A-x
D-2

>>63654915
Yeah it's a 'dying battery simulator' which I'm guessing is the same thing? It's actually really fun to have and extremely easy to build, highly recommended. Oh, and thanks!
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>>63654915
Oh and i was watching that fugazi doc when i took this picture
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>>63654896

what the hell is that soviet union pedal
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>>63654948
That sounds cool. What exactly does a DBS do? In terms of how it affects the sound of course
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>>63654948
It wasn't this, and it wasn't just a diagram, thanks for the help though.
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>>63654926
A build it yourself kit as your first guitar? Please don't do that. You're going to probably give up before finishing it (it's a lot more work than it looks like), and you won't be satisfied with it. It'll probably also be a gigantic piece of shit.

Start out with a Squier or something (Classic Vibe, preferably; those aren't the cheapest Squiers, but they're pretty good and most of all: unlike most beginner guitars, they don't send crazy noise to your amp if you plug it in, and they don't break on their own).
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>>63655007
Not that guy but running less power into an HM-2 dist pedal makes it fuzzy yet still as thick as the HM-2 usually is.
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>>63655036
So basically it's an extra tone knob for your pedals?
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>>63654968
It's a failed attempt at a mushroom echo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALRGz-f6Pyc

>>63655007
It depends on the pedal. I've found it works best with the OD. If i just roll it back a bit it gives me a more like mellow tone. If i roll it back a little more with all the knobs on the OD to 11 the pedal just screams unless i play something on my guitar. If i roll it back almost all the way it gives me a kind of broken amp sound. It's pretty fun overall but I've only tried it on my distortion, OD and tremolo so i don't really know how it affects other pedals
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>>63655051

yes, pedals turn weird when they get less juice, especially fuzzes
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>>63655059
Nice, that sounds cool. I have an excessive number of distortions and fuzzes so I ought to try this out
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>>63655059
>>63655051
Mind you that this basically only works for analog pedals. Most good power supplies have this feature on it as the "sag" knob, which causes the power supply to send less juice to your pedal.
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mein shit

where can I buy a "cheap" LP Recording?
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>>63654873
Learn to read sheet music, It's a two for one deal.
By learning how to read sheet music, you become well acquainted with the fretboard.
I don't recommend this stuff every time for shits and giggles(though they may be had anyway)
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Why are you niggers so obsessed with gear anyway? Are you really that bad?

Look at this humble man with his $300 guitar selling out shows around the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSul_gvpCI4

>Gear's nice and it's fun to experiment with but the sound comes from a person

Whatever, enjoy your telecasters hope they make you feel like a real good player ;)
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>>63655180
Obvious b8 2bh
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>>63655180
What are your hobbies? Ours is collecting, playing and talking about gear. :)
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>>63655180
salty :)
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>>63655085
just get an epiphone
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>>63655180
Mate his amp alone costs like $2000
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>>63655215
I like to play guitar.
Playing guitar pedals and amps just doesn't sound interesting desu senpai.
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>>63655437
You have an accoustic then? What model do you have? Pics?
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>>63654641
Any other /gg/uys able to rec any other great guitar mag PDFs other thn the steve vai ten hour workout?
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>>63655595
Currently checking out the chord chemistry one from the description.
Already discovered some dank voicings
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>>63655378

Well he kind of needs to sound loud when playing live...
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>>63655679
There are loud amps out there for way less than $2000. But he chose that one because it has the tone he wants, i.e the exact thing everyone in here enjoys obsessing about.
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>>63655020
Do you mean the CAGED system?
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>>63656086
Learn the 5 basic chord shapes: C,A,G,E,D then the barre versions of them, then minors and their barre versions, then 7ths, minor 7ths etc, etc.

Voila, you know all the chords
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>>63656125
>Voila, you know all the chords
yeah no
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>>63655328

no, what?
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>>63655085
China
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What are some Sonic youth songs in Standard tuning?
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>>63656460

A real one
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>>63656564
guitar store
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is ukulele-posting allowed here
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>>63656607
Please do
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>>63656627
neat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wzsE67O5tE
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>>63656642
What?

Where is your gear? Or are you the dude in that video?
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>play for 10 years
>fail to try to get a basic understanding music theory because of all the autism in guitar land
>learn caged system
>start to get a basic feel for minor pentatonic across the neck
>find a lot of hate on caged
>stop learning caged

Thats it. Im just going to learn piano theory and apply it to guitar.

Also
>>63654641
Who is this semen slurper?
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>>63656784
You're far better off learning how to build chords and doing it as fast as possible as opposed to learning boring voicings everyone uses imo.
Also learning actual music theory and not "guitar theory" as some people put it will help you play in any kind of tuning as long as you know how to find back the notes you want.
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>>63656924
Yeah I was thinking this. At least through the years I've learned that most guitar players are idiots that have no idea what they are talking about.
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>>63655085
Pretty sure one of the lawsuit companies made them. If you want a Gibson one, pretty sure cheap ones don't exist. DIY like Les Paul did.
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>>63656784
It's a Ruokangas guitar. It's a small finnish custom shop guitars manufacturer
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>>63656956
Do you know of guitars with a similar body? That are actually decent and more widely available?
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>>63657022
...a Stratocaster?
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>>63657022
Uhm i don't know. The body reminds me of a Music Man/Sterling, perhaps
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>>63656924
How do I start learning music theory? Are the links up top good?
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are there any good guides and sources for acoustic playing other than Justin Guitar?
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ok guys, i currently have a multi fx unit for guitar but am looking to try and switch to a pedal board.
What's the best way to do it?
What kind of board?
how is best to power the pedals?
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>>63656944
Eh, that depends on the player, but if you're speaking about people around you, generally yes.

>>63657140
I recommend the Guthrie Govan book in the OP and a lot of his videos, because he also shows how to "break the mold" and fool around with stuff like the chromatic scale without wandering around aimlessly.
Learn how to read and play sheet music too, it'll help you place notes on your fretboard (read : place, not just memorizing them and not being able to do anything with other tunings)217

>>63657465
>tfw trap music has nothing to do with traps
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>>63657546
also, if any guys have any ideas, i'm looking for a good cheap delay and reverb pedal
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What are the pros/cons of effect loops in amp heads?
Like, why would I put all my pedals on there instead of the classic 'instrument -> effects -> amp'?
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>>63654641

I just reread a conversation in the last thread. That solid state guy totally baited like 6 of us. Best troll I've seen in a while.
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>>63654641
>http://guitarshredshow.com/main.html

This is kind of cool.
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>>63657583
There are no cons, FX loops are basically the place right after the preamp, so if you're using the amp's gain but want a reverb, you put the reverb in there so it doesn't sound like a jumbled mess of distortion.
Unless you want to do exactly that.
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>>63657583
Normally the fx loop comes between the pre and power amp stages, which I think, gives you a better balanced signal. It also adds the 'amp tone' into whatever you put in the loop.

Time and modulation effects are considered to work 'better' out of the loop. Often they sound different, but it's up to you whether you like it or not. I think it's also advised not to run gain pedals through them because it messes with the poweramp input.

Personally I run most of most my effects thru the loop because my bass distorts them if they're in front of the amp. That's not normal tho, my bass just runs stupid hot.
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>>63654838

Maybe my earthquaker Hummingbird.
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>>63657590
>totally baited like 6 of us
>they all fell for the tube meme
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Anyone familiar with Bury the Hatchet by Protest the Hero?
I'm trying to figure out how to learn some of the first parts that are in 3/4, and using a metronome to do it is hurting my brain as none of the clicks fall on any of the notes
Pls help
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>>63657870
figure out what bpm that song plays at
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>>63657870
Is your metronome at the right BPM?
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>>63654838
HM-2 for life.
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>>63657867
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>>63657046
The body of a strat is smoother. Though it might just be the picture.. I'm not an idiot.
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>>63657890
I've been using a gp file, but I'm finding it hard to play along to the click when I turn off the instruments, as the click doesn't seem to fall on any notes
You or anyone else ever dealt with this kinda problem?
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>>63657927
It's basically a superstrat tho. If you want really similar proportions it's probably not gonna happen tho. Custom shops like that probably do it they're own way that would be hard to replicate.

>>63657932
Is alot of it in triplets or something? Triplets fuck you up. That, or the project is borked.
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How is the EHX bass big muff for guitar? I'm interested in it because you can mix in the dry signal, would be nice to have one pedal that I can use for both guitar and bass.
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>>63657932
Have you tried changing the 3/4 into a 6/8 ? That's a dumb trick but it might help.
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>>63657932
Is it the one on Ultimate-Guitar?

Because I just downloaded it and whoever put it together doesn't understand time signatures.
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>>63657870
Have you dealt with 3/4 before this?

Maybe try learning something nice and easy in 3/4 first of all, a simple waltz or some shit, until that signature feels more natural. Then come back to whatever garbage your trying to learn.
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>>63658022
Yeah, that one
>>63658121
I'm super familiar with 3/4, but I'm agreeing with other anons in that I think the transcription's measures may be off

I may try the 6/8 thing when I get back in, thanks anon
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>>63658177
Otherwise just cut every instrument but the drums
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>>63657590
>>63657867
>>63657926
Do you absolutely NEED the sound of an overdriven tube amp? --> get a tube amp (or a hybrid amp, it does the same thing, or a tube pedal, yes those exist)
For literally any other application just stick to SS.
It's that simple.
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>>63658205

I think of Pic Related every time I see solid state memers in /gg/.
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>>63658205
just fucking save money till you can actually buy the thing you really want. If thats a solid state, buy the fucking solid state, if its a tube buy the fucking tube. I don't see the problem here?
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>>63658227
>solid state memers
It's literally the superior amplifying technology. It can do 100% linear, 1:1 perfect amplification of the signal. It just behaves differently when you overdrive it, that's it. "muh tube warmth" is actually an imperfection of the technology and can be dialed in by EQing or by designing a circuit that behaves like a tube would.
Ancient, big, heavy, easier to break, can't function without a load, expensive, maintenance intensive, those are all the caveats that come with tube amps.
SS is literally better in every single way, except for overdrive. In which case you get a hybrid amp/tube pre-amp which you can overdrive and then just amplify.
>>63658292
I have what I want, it's just a general discussion on the topic.
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>>63658329

You're telling me that everyone is bought into marketing and you're the only one that sees the truth?


Or you just own a Marshall MG and are desperately trying to validate your gear.
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>>63658329

The bare guitar signal sucks, you put it through different amps and pedals to color it on purpose. A 100% perfect amplification of the bare guitar signal sucks.
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>>63658329
I'm just saying that people should buy what they want in general. There is no such thing as 'better' or 'worse'. Different people prefer different things. I have heard absolutely phenomenal shit from both Valve and Tube amps.
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>>63658407
He's absolutely right. Solid State amplifiers are better at handling normally driven signal objectively.

If you like a tube amp that means you just prefer the sound. But its objectively worse.
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>>63658329
>>63658434

samefag hard.
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>>63658425
I mean Solid State and Valve/Tube amps.

>>63658434
kill yourself
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>>63658205
>the majority of tube pedals aren't complete crap
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>>63658424
Your amp shouldn't color the sound. You should use a pedal or circuit for that.
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>>63658469

that's some dumb shit right there.
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>>63658469
Good luck getting a JCM 800 distortion sound with the same gain on a Twin with pedals. You are clueless aswell.
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>>63658469

Do me a favor, take a picture of your amps. Don't pretend like you're not home considering the rate of your posts.

No pics confirms butthurt MG fag.
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>>63658469
Just plug into your tv or some computer speakers then. Problem solved.
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>>63658469
By design, the power amp shouldn't and the preamp should, but since everyone is used to power amps breaking up when being pushed to their limits, no one sees it as a problem.
And it honestly isn't really a problem anyway, no one wants a completely flat tone coming from an electric guitar.
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>tubefags
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>>63658537
m8 there's both a VOX and a Jazz Chorus in there.
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>>63658537
JC in the background. Great job faggot.
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>>63658537

>JC's in background

this fucking guy.
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>>63657590
The guy who started with this image? Or the MG shit talker that cropped up in response?
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>>63658407
>You're telling me that everyone is bought into marketing and you're the only one that sees the truth?
I'm telling you that most people don't understand the technology and just buy into marketing, yes.
People are also heavily influenced by what their idols used back in the day and maybe by what their dad or older, more experienced people play/use. Which happens to be tube amps because that was the only thing that was available back in the day. People also grew accustomed to the imperfect sound that they listened to for literally decades, which makes sense. And yes, the big brands heavily use marketing ti make sure that everyone thinks that way, simply because they csn charge a premium for tube amps and other bullshit like p2p wiring.
Also keep in mind that barely anyone does direct side by side comparisons and that most people compare and amps in vastly different price ranges. Many people think of their first cheap practice amp when they hear SS without thinking any further.
>>63658424
Tube pre-amp, your favourite array of pedals and effects, etc. Just do the final amplification via SS. Power tubes are incredibly stupid in this day and age.
>>63658425
The problem is that people don't compare things properly or base their decisions off of false information and bias. Sure, there are 3000$ amps that sound amazing and they're all tube, but chances are you'll be able to recreate that exact sound or at least 99% of it for significantly less.
>>63658434
This.
>>63658465
You're not buying "the average" tube pedal or pre-amp, that is literally irrelevant. Just buy a good one.
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>>63658578

The latter, familia.


>>63658585

>100% accurate amplification!
>Use a tube pre-amp

>backpedalling this hard
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>>63658329
this is true.

"m-muh warmth" is literally a meme and is never used to describe an amp until after they know that it is a tube amp they are hearing.
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>>63658585
Who cares about false information and bias. As long as you are happy with your purchase you made a good purchase.
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>>63658633

>samefagging this hard
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>>63658630
That's literally what I said the entire time. You want tube distortion? Get a hybrid amp or a tube pre-amp. You want tube warmth? Again, either a tube pre-amp or EQ/a circuit that does exactly that.
See my very first post: >>63658329
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>>63658498

Where they at?
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>>63658659
If I sell you a Squier for 2000$ it's okay as long as you like it? Even if I tricked you into buying it with misinformation?
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Reminder bassists have been using hybrid/ss heads for decades without caring about what's inside.
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>>63658743

Reminder that guitar/bass amplification are different beasts.
Reminder that bassists are all poorfags.
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>>63658721
Yes. Guitar value is completely meanless anyways.
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>>63658743
It's almost as if bassists are more open to modern technology, also see active instruments as an example.
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>>63658743
>>63658808

See
>>63658661
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Tubes are inefficient, but the distortion sounds different to SS. SS distortion is normally 'bad', because it's hard clipping, whereas tubes are soft clipping.

'Warmth' is half bullshit, and the rest of it is the inefficiency of the tube. Alot of it is compression and the response that comes out of the tube. You can't add warmth with an EQ. You can replicate it if you know the bandwidths. It will never sound the same to an audio engineer. Most normal people can't tell the difference though.

Also there's several types of SS, and certain ones sound different then others. MOSFET doesn't really sound like tubes, but it sounds alot 'better' then most commonly used SS amps.

/gg/ is shit.

>>63658743
Most bassists want clean hence the use of SS/hybrid, and some of them are complete wankers about tubes still. Personally, using both I notice less of a difference with the distortion though.
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>>63654838
Fulltone OCD
or Xotic EP Booster
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>>63658795
Okay, for real now: you don't know anything about guitars, I tell you about these amazing guitars called "Squiers", they sound amazing and are very rare. You happen to believe me because you just don't know better and I paid jack and Ernie to tell you the same thing if you ask them.
I sell you a basic Squier for 2000$.
You like it, but you also start doing some research. You find out that I was lying to you and that these actually cost 250 bucks.
You still like the sound of it. But are you seriously going to tell me that you wouldn't be pissed off at that point?
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>>63658808
Nah that's just because active basses have an actual use other than MORE GAIN as opposed to active guitars.
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>>63658921
Active Guitars can do the same, but because guitarists are mongoloids they can't use them.
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>>63658921
You know, you could do the exact same thing to a guitar. It's just a simpls pre-amp with an EQ inside the instrument.
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>>63658964
>>63659008
I'm not saying they can't, but most of the time they don't offer the option too, look at all these EMG equipped guitars with just volume/knob, where the fuck are the guitars with a 2/3 band EQ ?
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>>63658585
Show me an above average tube pedal and tell me why I'd want to buy it when good tube amps are 200 dollars used.
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>>63658808
so progressive
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>>63659037
>when good tube amps are 200 dollars used.
Yeah maybe 5w tube amps
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>>63659025
EMG sell that stuff, same with Bartolini etc.

Because guitarists haven't used them, most companies don't make off the shelf guitars that have them. Pretty sure BC Rich and Musicman made them in the past. Some of the Japanese companies might have too, definitely Aria Pro II (pic related). I think Godin and Kiesel/Carvin still make them now as well. Also, Alembic, but fuck paying 8 billion dollars for that.
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>>63659093
whaaaaaa I don't know how to shop online whaaaaa
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>>63659025
You could very easily make those yourself, just saying. Or implement a 3-band EQ for acoustic guitars in your instrument, etc.
Yes, they don't really exist, but that's not because nobody was ever making them. I'm sorry but: >>63658964 is kinda right, they didn't sell because guitarists are obsessive traditionalists.
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>>63659093
get a job
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>>63659155
>>63659197
I know they sell preamps, but you still have to mod your guitar to accomodate for that, I don't want to risk fucking up the whole finish because I did something wrong when drilling.

>they didn't sell because guitarists are obsessive traditionalists.
I think so as well.
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>>63658888
no, but in this case I'm getting scammed. So the example is kinda bad.
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>>63658743
I don't think it's that they don't care what's inside. They get a better result with SS power amps, and for clean playing pure SS. Bass is more demanding from an amp and people actually want something hi-fi. Nobody wants a hi-fi guitar sound, though in my opinion it's better to start with a good signal and make it shitty.
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>>63659183
I'm sorry I don't live in a magical dream place where I can buy a head and a cab for 200$

>>63659253
>implying getting a job will change the price from 200$ to something else
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>>63659263
I guess the best way would be to get a tech or someone to do it. I want it done to one of mine, because I have no real use for it, and it's not worth selling it for what i've been offered. Don't really have the money though.
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>>63659263
Yes, the point is: you don't have proper active guitars because guitarists rejected them and they didn't sell. Saying that nobody plays active guitars because you don't have proper active guitars is kinda the wrong way around.
>>63659284
True, then let me rephrase it: I sold you a guitar that I made for 2000$, you like the sound of it, later you find out that it sounds exactly like a Squier affinity. My guitar does not have better build quality, it's not prettier and it sounds just like a 250$ Squier, would you not be mad that you paid 2000 for it?
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>>63658874
You can't generalize this clipping issue, because you're only looking at it comparing a single tube to a single diode. SS amps have more complex circuitry and actually design the sound from the ground up. Feedback, multiple stages, different diodes applied to different frequencies, multiple diodes in parallel, etc are used to create solid state distortion. Many tube amps make use of this as well. The point is that there's nothing magical about tubes. They can be emulated as far as the basic properties go.
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>>63659391
This. And, again, if you really must have perfect tube distortion then overdriving a tube pre-amp and then using an SS power amp is a totally valid option.
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>>63659391
To clarify; I meant more complex circuitry than a single diode, not more complex than a tube amp. Poor choice of words.
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>>63659340
True, but that's even more money down the line
I guess I'll try drilling holes in my shit guitar first maybe.

>>63659385
I must have mis-expressed myself then, I was just pointing out the fact most guitarists only use active pickups to get a hotter signal as opposed to bassists using them to EQ themselves.
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>>63659454
To clarify: you meant more complex than a single transistor. A diode doesn't amplify shit m8.
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>>63654839
Recently acquired rg420
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>>63659391
>They can be emulated as far as the basic properties go.

No they can't. I understand enough of the science to know that ur wrongu~~
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>>63659454
such difficult, much complex
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>>63659518
no, I meant I diode. I'm talking about the distortion transistor distortion does sound bad, which is why it's avoided in most solid state amps.
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>>63654838
EQD Spires
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>>63659536
Please son. They can't be emulated is a ridiculous overstatement.
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>>63654641
can anyone here play wonderful slippery thing
if so post video
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>>63654838
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>>63659648
There is an animu picture attached to his post. You can safely assume that he's shitposting.
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>>63658546
>>63658549
>>63658574
is this some kind of ruse?
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Am I going to find a nicer amp than the Micro terror + the cab (PPC108) for under 170 pounds? Also, is the Microdark worth springing the extra 20 for? It's in my mind that I'll largely be playing in a shared flat and occasionally jamming with some friends.

Also, whats the deal with combo amps vs Head+Cabinet?
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>>63659720
One of them is a bonus for consecutive attacks and the other you connect with a "speaker cable"
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>>63654896
the position of your laptop and the drink under it is giving me anxiety jesus christ
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>>63659720
>Also, whats the deal with combo amps vs Head+Cabinet?
It's similar to headsets vs headphones + microphone.
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>>63659720
Don't get the 8" cab, it apparently sounds like garbage. Get a proper 1x12, that way you can push the amp and jam with a drummer. The Micro Dark has an FX loop, so if you plan on using reverb or delay pedals then it's worth it.

>>63659657
You mean the guitar slapping intro ? That thing is insane, never really managed to do it.
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>>63659720
Head and cab is more versatile and generally will sound better because the speakers have a better enclosure and can be larger.
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>>63659774
Sorry man, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by consecutive attacks.

I get how heads+cabinets work physically, like in my mind the upmarket stuff would be Head+cab but I see a lot of people using Twin Reverbs and those seem pretty expensive

>>63659789
Yeah that was kinda my thinking, just to be clear, you are implying that head+cab is better value for money compared to combo?
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So anyone have good pointers for dealing with fret-buzz on an acoustic? I got a really good deal on this guitar because it had fret buzz. Last guy had the wrong strings on it, way too light, and sold it cheap. I was hoping the right strings would fix it right up, and they almost did, but I still have an annoying bit of buzz around frets 9-11, particularly on strings 1 and 2. The neck relief looks perfect, if my electric did this I would pull out a little screwdriver and just raise the action on those strings by about a millimetre but on an acoustic I can't do this and I'm a little lost as to what to do next. Any pointers?

Pic related.
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>>63659829
Alright, sounds good, I was playing on a micro dark today which sounded good going through a 1x12 I think.
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>>63659835
>because the speakers have a better enclosure and can be larger.
there are tons of combos that have a good enclosure and 12 inch speakers.
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>>63659668
>>63659648
This entire argument is a shitargument. Tube distortion can't be emulated by SS. But neither can tube replicate SS distortion. It's not magic, it's just the fact that you can't replicate the inefficiencies of a tube. It's bizarre to think you can.
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>>63659852
Well I got one with a 12" cab loaded with a Celestion V30 and it's probably among the best cheap amp (speaking about retail, not used).
Be advised though, the controls on it fucking suck, having only one knob to do shaping is annoying.
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>>63659856
Tube emulation circuits are a thing and they work.
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>>63659854
Name some
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>>63659904
They work functionally, but they don't sound the same~~
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>>63659891
Yeah, I can understand that, didn't get a huge chance to play with it because the volume was so low when I was trying instore, also had someone who was playing well near me which always makes me feel a bit nervous.
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>>63659906
holy shit how retarded are you? any of the full size fenders like the deluxe reverb or super sonic etc, marshalls combo version of thier big heads like the DSL, the full size mesas, pretty much any larger brands full size combo that isnt a shitty starter amp, shit, even blues juniors have a 12 inch speaker
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I know absolutely nothing about gigging, if I'm going to start do I need a good amp?
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>>63660032
not really. just something above a starter pack crap amp
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Traded my 68 Bassman stack for this reissue Princeton Reverb. I love this new amp more than the Bassman; the reverb and trem are just amazing.

Unfortunately, most of the pedals I own don't seem to sound the same on this new amp...I'm guessing the reduced negative feedback? I'm not saying they sound bad, just different to what I'm used to.
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>>63660052
I presume you've already reconfigured the settings on the pedals? If not, play with that.
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>>63660032
Depending on your band, you need a certain amount of volume.
Clean, jazzy gig at a bar with a jazz drummer ? You're fine with a clean 15w amp.
Dirty gritty doom band with a drummer about to break his kit with every hit, and a huge wave of low end frequencies ? You're not getting there without a huge 100w 4x12

As for the amp's sound itself, you can get away with an amp that doesn't sound so great, remember you're a band, you're not the only one playing, other amps can fill in for what your amp lacks.

The most important thing is motivation, technical ability and cooperation between bandmates. Nobody wants to hear a band off beat, that doesn't do anything on stage and with bandmates that are about to rip each other's head, but where each one of them has a Mesa stack so their power chords sound chuggiest.
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Thinking of buying a BOSS ME-25 for 100€ for bedroom playing. How bad will I fuck up?
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Still haven't gotten a response,

anyone try out the Seymour Duncan Vapor Trail? Thoughts?
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>>63660211
It's shit.
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>>63660211
It's meh, MXR Carbon Copy is better in every aspect unless you want to see the tempo
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>>63660211
no but it sounds fine in demos. you were trying to decide between that and a carbon copy right? you cant really go wrong with a carbon copy. really solid little pedal
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>>63660194
For that price I'd rather buy an interface and use plugins/IRs to get a better sound, the only advantage a multifx is going to have is the ability to move it around for gigs/rehearsals, so if you're planning on bedroom playing I'd get an interface.
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>>63654641
>24 frets with an overhang because you can't build a fucking guitar
>HSH
>that retarded candybar headstock
>charred or baked maple fretboard without a completely matching neck
>Ruokangas so it's incredibly overpriced

fuck outta here
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>>63660279
What the hell is an overhang ?
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>>63657976
IMO it doesn't work very well for guitar. The frequencies that the pedal uses are made for retaining the low end of a bass, so guitar ends up sounding muddy and undefined. If you absolutely need one pedal to do both though, it's not a horrible option, just not gonna sound as good as a guitar fuzz.
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Whats the best silicon fuzz pedal about, I asked this guy the other day about tones like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii-CmhGJbxo
and he recommended silicon fuzz pedals.
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>>63660220
why?

>>63660243
What makes it better? I like seeing the tempo, and the VT also has modulation controls.

>>63660252
yeah deciding between the two right now, sound really similar in demos so i was wondering if there was any reason to choose the CC when the VT is loaded with so many more features
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>>63659848
got to a guitar shop and ask them to replace the saddle?
sure, you can do it yourself too, but it's kind of time intensive and boring.
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>>63660316
the last couple of frets hang over the neck because these mongs can't build a guitar

Warmoth does the same thing
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>>63660421
An overhanging fretboard is not a big deal, stop sperging out over small insignificant details.
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>>63660358
An OCD would treat you well for that sound. The grittier big muffs and clones are a good look too.
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>>63660421
The fact the neck stops but there's still some fretboard and frets ?
Yeah I can see why you're bothered by that on a custom guitar.
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>>63660388
It's the factory installed bone saddle and there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with it. If that's the issue then I have no problem replacing it but it just doesn't make any sense it should need replacement. I prefer to fix these things myself so I know how they work.

>>63660316
>>63660279
>>63660421

Where the fretboard extends down past the end of the neck, and the last couple frets 'hang over' the body of the guitar.

Not completely sure why this is such a bad thing myself, frankly.
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>>63660461
Alright thank you very much, I'll have a look at them.

Also, how difficult is pedal building/soldering, I've been thinking about giving it a shot because I've been spending money I don't have on name brand effects pedals.
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>>63654838
Eventide Space makes me feel a nostalgia like I've never had.
>>63660362
Mxr has modulation as well, the sound is much less impeeded by circuitry in mxr, and it is much closer sounding to a tape delay than the vapor. I sold my vapor, I still have my mxr
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>>63660612
it does have modulation, but no accessible controls like the vapor does.

Do you think the difference is notable enough for the loss of those features to be worth getting the mxr over the vapor?
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I don't whether to buy an acoustic o a semi hollow.
I want an acoustic sound but I want to play more funky stuff too.
Is a semi hollow with acoustic strings (wund g string) a good idea?
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>>63660459
>insignificant details
even companies with $200 24 fret guitars don't do this, it's just sloppy shit that looks terrible, impacts neck pickup placement in a huge way, and makes it look like this $4000 guitar was just made from parts that don't match. Warmoth at least has a reason for doing it(so your neck will match without any problems).
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>>63660612
>>63660677
not to mention, the vapor is much cheaper for me
so I'm just hung up about whether the difference in sound is worth what I lose?
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>>63656527
>sonic youth
>using standard tuning
You know who sonic youth are, right?
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>>63660718
>impacts neck pickup placement in a huge way
How exactly? At the same scale length the frets would go there, whether the fretboard is overhanging or not.
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>>63660567
It's fairly simple, but there is a learning curve. You'll need to get some tools too. Harbor freight can get you most of the way there. Anybody can make dirt boxes.
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>>63660772
Cheers, what level of Watts will I need, in the UK so looking at Maplins and seeing anywhere between 18 and 40 Watts
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>>63656642
Or you could just get a real guitar...
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>>63660837
I use a 60 watt iron with independent temperature control, but you can do it with a wood burner if it gets hot enough. Wattage on a soldering iron has an effect on how fast it heats up, and how quickly it heats back up after melting some solder.
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>>63660876
Alright, thank you very much, I'll probably try and find some schematics and buy some stuff later this week, so you might see me asking what I did wrong later on haha
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Any recommended books on classical guitar technique excercises? Most of the stuff I see being talked about here seems to be oriented for electric guitar players.
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Thinking of getting a modern player tele used. I like the feel of a telecaster and thought this was pretty cool sinse I also prefer humbuckers. Any thoughts.
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>>63660528
The saddle has to be filed to adjust the action on that instrument. If it's buzzing, the action is (presumably) too low, and since you can't make the saddle taller, you need a new saddle.
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>>63661153
I don't get why they removed the bits around the edge of the bridge and bridge pick up, those looked like they'd be useful for muting.
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>>63661153
why do you prefer humbuckers?

humbuckers on a tele will sound very different from those on a Les Paul or other guitars, please try it out beforehand.
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>>63654838
Version 8 Big box Black Russian Big Muff, one of the best bass fuzzes I've ever heard, also mine has a clean blend mod that's also pretty killer.
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http://www.kijiji.ca/v-amp-pedal/markham-york-region/hand-wired-boutique-pedals-overdrive-delay-fuzz-chorus/1146682233?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

How do these look?
Store is literally a 5 minute bike ride away so that warranty sounds pretty convenient for me.
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>>63661297
>those shoes

Please tell me those are your gf's or something. Those look like a mix between crocs and pic related.
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>>63660837
I try to get irons with convenient replacement tips. Lower wattage is manageable by resting the iron more vertically so the tip is above the heating element. Your iron will be on for hours and hours and the tips will corrode to dust.
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>>63661526
Rest assured they aren't mine, might be my sis' shoes
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>>63660528
Perhaps the frets need to be levelled.
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>>63660732
If you can get it for close to half the full price of MXR, go for vapor, but if it's a $20 difference, just get the mxr, it's worth the difference (I got mine new for flat $80, so I'm real happy.)
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>>63661203
>>63662190

Yeah I hate to be that guy but you're telling me what I already know and I guess I just needed to hear it from someone else.

Either I can solve it by leveling frets or I'll have to replace the bridge. The frets sure *look* good but that doesn't mean anything. Guess I'll strip it down and start measuring the frets after work tonight.
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>>63661445
If you get better quality than Boss, sure, but check to see you aren't getting bare bones pedals
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>>63661772
High wattage and replaceable tips are what I'm looking for then?
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>>63662261
At least you can do it yourself and won't have to pay through the nose. I'd be inclined to just go with a new nut but if it's going to mean shitty action then a fret level will be worth the effort.

Good luck anon.
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>>63662241
Really?
From what I can tell from demos, the differences are so slight that I think I can justify even paying a bit more for the Vapor Trail for the extra features, (wet output, modulation controls, flashing LED)

Have you had a good amount of time with both of them? Don't worry, I know how well loved the carbon copy is and have only heard amazing things about it, but I also haven't heard anything bad about the relatively less popular Vapor Trail.
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And on today's episode of Retarded Shit I Found On EBay......
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>>63662535
Moomin?
that's fucking dope, please buy that shit
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>>63662535
seller name: totallylostit

yup, and you totally lost money by fucking your guitar over
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>>63662535
>Excellent condition

yeah, actually no
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>>63662535
>starting bid: 5 pounds
It should stay that price
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>>63662535
let's all ask him questions about it
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>>63662703
If it stays at £5 I'm buying it.
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lets play a game

I'll post a rig, and you guess the guitarist
no googling allowed

I'll start off easy
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>>63662888
my dad
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Just got this beauty :)
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Rate my girls.
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>>63662953
It looks like the White Falcon's retarded brother
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>>63662978
6.5/10
7.5/10
6/10
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>>63662447
Also it might be possible to relax the neck slightly, but I'll be damned if I ever noticed a truss rod lol.

Thanks.
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How much should i spent for my very first bass and how much for a small amp , just for small practice as a hobby , already have a classical guitar but im more into bass
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>>63662978
Kill - middle
Marry - top
Fuck - bottom
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>>63663014
400+200
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>>63662978
nothing special/10
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>>63662953
what the fuck is that
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>>63662742
>1.2k postage
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>>63658469
Thanks for the keks. Have a (You).
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>>63663009
i wonder whats 10/10 for you
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>>63659920
>>63659904

If you know math or engineering you can tell why emulation of a non-deterministic system won't be exact as the real thing. Tubes have many variables on how they work and sound.

The argument should be, can you actually tell the difference? Is it infinitessimally small so it cannot be noticed by 99% of unbiased listeners (without knowing it's a tube or ss).

It all depends on the model used to approximate the system you are trying to emulate, that's why stuff like Axe-FX has some serious DSP power.
They can get the closest practical approximation because they can use the computational capacity to approximate with a very minimum differential of error.
It will improve as the algorithms improve and fortunately the Axe-FX II has enough power to allow better computations.

With all that said, a shitty pedal will not be able to accurately replicate the sound, don't delude yourself. Unless it has some serious DSP power or super optimized algorithms it won't.

If you enjoy solid states by all mean do so, but do not justify your preference as better against technical facts.
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>>63656784
there's literally nothing wrong with the caged system if you use it as a template and mix it in with major and minor scales/pentatonics/modes. it's just a reference point for chord tones
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>>63656784
Don't give them piano cunts the privilege matey.
Keep the good fight.

>Anyone else remembers the keyboard shitposter?

Also CAGED can be a resource, do not get shackled by it tho. A good advice I watched on a Josh Homme interview is that he likes to take out notes of a scale pattern just to spice things a little bit. You can try and modify things to your liking, all it matters is that it sounds good to you.

Ear training really helps a lot with pretty much anything.
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>>63663793
There's such a thing as analog solid state too though
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>>63662535
i'd buy it.
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>>63661153
I have one myself in the same color. fucking gorgeous guitar but the stock pickups suck. in hindsight I wish I had bought a baja tele but Id still recommend it if swapping out pickups isnt an issue
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>>63662978
nice blanket
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Music theory doesn't have anything in particular to do with pianos. Well I guess they are the instrument that was most planned out ahead of time, based on theory.

But strings are where theory was learned from. Working directly with strings is in no way inferior to a keyboard. Just different.

This is a diddley bo. It's easy to make from less suitable materials, but if you already have a guitar you can make one by removing some excess strings anytime you want. Learn one string, and then put on another.

Here's the neat thing, every string is exactly the same! The only thing that changes is where they are tuned in relation to each other, but in relation to itself, one string is exactly like the next.
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>>63663878

i've never seen a chord chart or taken a class on chords in my life, i learned them all from songs and from fucking around with the scales, adding and taking off notes from the chords and playing them in different positions

don't ask me their names though i just know the root lmao
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>>63664004
Sure but what about chords?
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