For once there are no bandcamp threads in the catalogue, but like 12 soundcloud threads.
So, Fresh Bandcamp thread. Rate, comment, listen. I'll stay around to comment on other people's music
Here's my band
https://dirtywaves.bandcamp.com/album/folk-songs-for-guitar-and-accordion-in-the-key-of-c
Dirty Waves - Folk Songs For Guitar And Accordion in the Key of C,
Lo-fi folk, bedroom folk, sorta pop-ish. All acoustic except for fuzzy bass and instruments
>>63653145
bump, here's my album artwork because why the fuck not
https://dirtywaves.bandcamp.com/album/folk-songs-for-guitar-and-accordion-in-the-key-of-c
>>63653159
bump again
check this sick harsh noise
https://yifftitties.bandcamp.com/album/rock-n-roll-with-the-yifftitties-vol-1
Ohhh it's late in the night, what's up gang gang.
You can listen to my debut full length here:
https://strawberrys.bandcamp.com/album/what-if-i-told-you-nothing-is-quite-what-it-seems
You can buy me cassettes here:
https://midnightmoontapes.bandcamp.com/album/music-for-drowning-songs-about-dreams
>This album has been compared to film scores, R Plus Seven, and even Ricky Eat Acid.
>Ambient,dreampop,chillwave,vaporwave,leftfield
>FFO: Oneohtrix point never, Foxes in Fiction, Ricky Eat Acid
>IF YOU LIKE IT RATE IT RYM, DOWNLOAD IT AND SCROBBLE IT ON LAST.FM
Seriously I can't stress that enough it real helps me gauge fan base
>>63653159
This is solid, you have a very folky voice. The cover art doesn't fit the music though.
>>63653232
This noise is indeed harsh. Idk harsh noise isn't for me.
Other /MU/sicians:
https://dmtrec.bandcamp.com/album/into-your-eyes
https://ikwyaayan.bandcamp.com/
https://corvoandthecorvettes.bandcamp.com/releases
https://highsunn.bandcamp.com/album/wishes-2
https://abelian1.bandcamp.com/
https://tennischamp.bandcamp.com/releases
https://yukoyuko.bandcamp.com/
Good bandcamp core:
https://novacationgrrl.bandcamp.com/
https://wishing.bandcamp.com/releases
https://in-dreamview.bandcamp.com
>instrumental
>post-rock / Math-rock
>jazz fusion
also check out
>>63653378
>>63653398
Digging this, great stuff
http://vtimdon.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-lantern-curls
>drone metal
>first wave post-rock
>noise
My debut release, I spent a long time working on this. Enjoy.
I appreciate feedback more than you can imagine, so please do provide me with some.
Album No. 2 will be quite different.
Bandcamp doesn't keep track of plays or allow comments, so music hobbyists aren't interested in it.
https://spectreeyes.bandcamp.com/album/forevermore
>experimental
>noise
>drone
>post-rock
good SHIT:
>>63653159
>>63653378
>>63653429
https://beefalo.bandcamp.com/track/ivory
>Indie Rock
>Chill
Just released a new track for this year.
https://cavbrew.bandcamp.com/album/suicidal-ideation
>Dark Ambient, Plunderphonics, Depression
>>63653643
Glad to see you're back at it, it's been a while! Digging the new track! I'm really loving those weird whistle like sounds you have going on in there, what are they (if you don't mind me asking)?
>>63653378
I've only listened to one track so far, but damn, I can see why you've been getting all this praise lately. It sounds like what I imagine cotton candy mixed with cough syrup would sound like. I'm really liking it! I'll have to listen to the full thing soon.
>>63653768
Thanks man. The whistle like noises are an electic organ ran through a modulator and a phaser if i remember right. Spooky tracks man. I've been wanting to put some stuff out on cassette
>>63653768
Fuck, I meant to link it to the track recurringdreams specifically. I still think it's one of the prettiest tracks I've ever made. (https://cavbrew.bandcamp.com/track/recurringdreams-feat-rebecca-turmel)
>>63653827
Thanks man! My label manager is actually the one who presses them and I'm eternally grateful for that. And that's really cool how you managed to manipulate that sound so nicely, most of my sound is designed around how much I can manipulate sounds to make them something I like/find seriously interesting, so serious props to you!
https://retrieval.bandcamp.com
>indie
>alternative
>rock
Recs
>>63653643
>>63653398
>>63653378
https://badsleep.bandcamp.com/
>ambient
>experimental
>atmospheres
dope shit:
>>63653398
>>63653378
https://dearlaika.bandcamp.com/
>singer-songwriter / ambient / dream pop / minimalist / experimental / lo-fi indie / math folk / glitch
>comparisons have been made to Grizzly Bear, Sleep Party People, Sufjan Stevens, Baths, Justin Vernon and The Antlers
Habitual reccs:
>>63653378
>>63653398
>>63653604 (doesn't post as often, so take a chance to listen to this!!)
https://epiglottis.bandcamp.com/track/beleaguered-by-sound-2
>Dark Ambient, Modern Classical, Drone-y
>Based on making a lot of noise on one piano and synth
>Like a movie, I guess
https://epiglottis.bandcamp.com/album/selfish-rituals
>Ritual Ambient split with Odd Fellow's Rest (http://oddfellowsrest.bandcamp.com/)
>Dark ambient mixed with elements of IDM, noise and beats
Love me these:
>>63654479
>>63653768 <3
>>63653604 <3
>>63653398
https://alldrig.bandcamp.com/
one man band, each release is different.
>depressive black metal / post
>piano based
>narcotic rock
>experimental
THANKS GUYS! FOR THE 1.100 DOWNLOADS ON BANDCAMP!
(its an small number, but still huge for me)
reccing
>>63653378
>>63653398
>>63654770
Nice ironic music if you like irony:
>>63654869
Dude, nice cropped painting album cover, also I like the file name XD
>>63653159
>>63655142
It's me, Abelian
https://thelatticecollective.bandcamp.com/album/nick-plante
>experimental hip-hop
>post-punk
>dub
>cloud rap
https://thelatticecollective.bandcamp.com/album/plank-ratha-yem
>experimental hip-hop
>producer/rapper duo
>new lineup with more rappers soon
I'm Soma and Abelian
https://onatonol.bandcamp.com/album/the-city
NEW ALBUM OUT NOW!
>lo-fi indie
>influences from ambient,avant folk,shoegaze and emo
>two post punk tracks
>for fans of Giles Corey,HANL,Teen Suicide,The Microphones
>also on Spotify and other markets
Easily my best work yet and I’d say it’s way better than my previous album,Tired of Me. I hope you enjoy and I’d love to get your feedback.
https://christmoz.bandcamp.com
> Jazzy vibes
> World
> Ambient
IT-XPO - "30 for Seoul"
https://itxpo.bandcamp.com/album/30-for-seoul
>ambient-drone, experimental electronic, cyber goth
"A Sensual Visit from God"
Whether or not you bleed
doesn't make a presence known
If we both bleed to
gether I will call you
Mother
Picture a nail being slammed into a piece of wood.
Bar codes on humans.
Every single one.
Please trace me.
Scan me.
I am a machine.
Scan me.
Red Light.
https://aloosehair.bandcamp.com/
>Last album kinda ambient
>Others rock inspired
>>63653159
I used that in an album already lol
>>63655164
>I'm Soma and Abelian
You aren't a tripfag though, so I don't believe you
https://lookmaze.bandcamp.com/
D E P U D J A L D H A
https://fore-ver.bandcamp.com/
>lo-fi
>electronic
>plunderphonics
>post-nightcore
>deep web
https://nonplayablecharacter.bandcamp.com/
>indie/post rock
>ambient
>female vocals
The video visualization playlist for each track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SHtwR6zo7s&list=PLoEQjrxn7Smy7BgShvQrZPNKi7vYgoUBE&index=1
A must listen if you are new to the thread:
>>63653378
>>63654479
>>63654770
>>63654869
Why do bandcamp threads don't survive as others?
>>63653145
https://soundcloud.com/bagels105oranges-elpu
best songs
i am the electronic lobster prophet unleashed, or elpu, a crunchwave electronic group with an intense and experimental style.
>crunchwave, you ask, what's that?
you'll find out, give it a listen, a few songs. you'll be hooked!
check out the free albums on bandcamp and the newer tracks on the soundcloud
there's also an blog, website, youtube channel, religious cult! you'll find it from the links on the soundcloud
>returning all feedback <3 enjoy the music!
check out the newest music video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq1ZP_41C-8 [Embed] [Embed]
https://soundcloud.com/bagels105oranges-elpu
or elpu.bandcamp.com
>also check out rap side project https://soundcloud.com/thsavages/
recs:
nub scrub
hyper specific
cis scum boys
tony chu
toilet friend
SONP
UNX
TROPX
>>63653159
>>63653398
>>63653429
>>63655142
i can't get around to listening to everyone's stuff, i delve into certain channels after finding them
by sight. post good graphics!
https://tidepoolsmusic.bandcamp.com
Released a new single called dominoes and working on a new EP that should be out this year. Would love feedback :^)
>dream pop
>post punk
>shoegaze
https://chanixnaither.bandcamp.com/album/boodfliv-original
I'm looking for a bandcamp release that has parody covers of viper sung in the style of morrissey but i can't seem to find it. Does anyone happen to know the title
>>63654770 here
>>63653643
I agree with >>63653768, the whistles are an interesting. The way that the guitar is not quite in sync with the percussion kinda throws me off, but I don't know whether it was done on purpose. I guess it sorta works with the quirkiness you've got going on...
>>63654554
I really like the ambiance. The crackle and warping can feel a bit gimmicky at times, but I guess it works. The bass in "thieves" is very TGP.2.
>>63655277
Glad you're trying out irregular time signatures and more chromaticism, but please please please get real instruments and use chords that aren't I IV or V. Only then will your project gain credibility.
>>63655537
Already recc'd and given feedback on a previous thread. Good stuff!
>>63655777
Likewise. Nice digits!
>>63656082
*an interesting touch. (Didn't get much sleep last night.)
>>63655799
Not quite sure what to make of this...Your tags are certainly accurate! I'm not quite sure what you're trying to get across here... It just seems a bit aimless and messy.
>>63655425
At first I thought it was just another glitchy noise project... but then the beat dropped. I dig this in a weird way. The bass is subtle but heavy, the glitch provides good texture.
This project is understated, but that works very well. I didn't even mind the vaporwave bits because they were complemented by the beat and were interestingly manipulated enough. Recc for you!
projectxanadu.bandcamp.com
>noise
>power electronics
>drone
>field recordings
>dark ambient
alexdonley.bandcamp.com
>acoustic guitar and piano, instrumental
>field recordings
>>63656217
>>63655799
>>63655777
>>63655480
>>63655425
>>63655282
>>63655277
>>63655221
>>63655138
>What is giving feedback and reccing
baka family, you are what kill these threads
>>63656610
na I think bandcamp being shit is whats kill these threads :^ )
https://droopies.bandcamp.com/releases
what do you guys use to record?
>>63656963
audacity desu
requiemforvenus.bandcamp.com
>neo progressive, neo ambient, sampling, piano, some alt pop (?), plunder phonics, post vaporwave, etc
>ambient, noise, recorded on a phone
https://echotail.bandcamp.com/album/fields-of-vision
>post-rock, shoegaze, post-metal, prog
Thanks for the great support so far, any feedback/plays or CD purchases is massively appreciated!
>>63653145
I thought the tracks had an interesting theme to them, quite liked the accordion and the energy from the songs. Interesting that you guys are from a place called Peterborough. I live 15 minutes away from Peterborough but in the United Kingdom xD
>>63653604
Great atmosphere coming from your tracks man, sounds like a demented Pink Floyd at some points which is a good thing for me!
>>63653768
Damn this is intense stuff, the low frequencies kill me in a good way. The mood is perfect for what you are going for.
>>63654479
This is great stuff, solid songwriting and the riffs and drumming on Spanish Kid is fantastic.
>>63655537
Some beautiful moments on here, like the guitar tone you have with the reverb. Very dream like and has a nice theme to it.
Recs:
>>63653398
>>63654770
>>63654869
>>63655164
>>63655777
http://jacobhutto.bandcamp.com
>Experimental, Various Genres
>New Release
>Paw Paw's Songs
>Ambient, Comedy, Dixieland, Field Recordings, Folk, Folk Pop, Jangle Pop, Lo-fi, Musique Concrete, Sound Collage.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. :)
https://phoenixbrown.bandcamp.com/
ECCOPUNK
>>63655537
Returning rec! This is sure some amazing music right here folks! Gimme more soon peeps!
https://datingsystem.bandcamp.com/
>singer songwriter, post punk, sad
https://officialdtb.bandcamp.com/releases
>Indie
>rock
>Post rock
>>63653604
Been listening to this all day. The atmosphere is captivating. The screams and yells on the track Frostbyte give me shivers. Saving this for the future to help cope with panic attacks and anxiety issues
>>63656675
Listened to the album a few days back. Really great instrumentation and overall feeling of the album. Got a bit samey at times but all in all the visual aesthetic illustrates what to expect perfectly. Certainly a rec.
>>63657357
Really like the variety in the song writing and mood and the mixing of spoken word. Gonna give a through listen in a brief moment! Also thanks from >>63655537
>>63655480
First track and I'm hooked. If you'll hang around in other threads will return feedback!
>>63658467
Wish there was more. Strange mixing tho. The vocals seem to be so present it's kind of uncomfortable. Your voice reminds me of the guys from Modern Baseball or The Hotelier. Great emo dude!
>>63656610
Kid, I've already BOUGHT the music that I like here.
allpalaces.bandcamp.com
>metal
AOTY?
https://thememes1.bandcamp.com/album/an-ode-to-mu
Recorded mostly throughout 2014 and 2015, this is a compilation of demos of songs which will eventually end up on my second record "Homoti" later this year in much better, complete finished form.
Partly recorded on various cassette tapes (pre-recorded and blank) on a boombox in various shitty group homes in Ontario, and partly recorded at home on a laptop and cassette recorders, this is just a very long foray into my creative mind and how I love hearing and creating music. Almost cluttered but still cohesive and listenable at over 90 minutes, here is Homoti Demos 1991.
https://simoncameronfletcher.bandcamp.com/album/homoti-demos-1991
>bedroom pop, sad lo-fi folky pop stuff
>FFO: Elliott Smith, Daniel Johnston, Alex G, Ween's 1992 album Pure Guava, Sebadoh - III
https://juxtpose.bandcamp.com/album/tsugu-06-the-materials-december-beaches
>Lofi house and techno
Existential Dance Music
>>63658788
holy shit man thank you
>>63656610
I've recced and given feedback multiple times here,every once in a while i'll check back for new albums that I haven't heard and give them my thoughts or rec them. So please,stop whining.
https://highsunn.bandcamp.com/album/wishes-2
new dream pop lp
>>63653378
best fucking ambient/dream compositions
>>63654554
odd and beautiful
>>63655480
love
pregnant2gether.bandcamp.com
Some fresh screamo coming at ya, just released today.
FFO: Calculator, Snowing, self-doubt
>>63653398
This is fucking cool as hell.
>>63653429
Movement 5 is really neat. All your stuff seems like a slow burn, which I like.
>>63653604
Shall Be Lifted - is that mostly field recordings and samplings? I love the little bits of organ, and the delay/reverb on the strings. Seriously cool tone you're getting. Love it.
>>63653643
Like this a lot. Got some great vibes to it. Really like when everything sorta crashes into you at the start. Delicious chorusy goodness.
>>63653768
wow that made me uncomfortable.
I'm suicidal enough already and somehow your tracks sound almost exactly like my existential dread feels. Good job capturing that.
>>63654770
Holy shit this is great stuff. Really loving the backwards recording bits. Great voice, too.
>>63653378
Thanks man, yeah I guess it doesn't necesarilly fit, but I like it. I have a strange way of showing my depression. It usually manifests in writing happier sounding music.
http://bronzekneecaps.bandcamp.com/album/fun-is-infinite
raps.
Reccs
>>63653398
>>63653604
>>63653768
>>63654869
>>63655138
>>63654554
I'm really digging this! Although short times aren't good for radio, this is fantastic. The jazz sampling makes sense, but it's a little much. Besides that, this is wonderful.
>>63653378
Digging the new album! I really enjoy your stuff.
I may play something from Music for Drowning on my show this week.
https://theambiguity.bandcamp.com/album/in-muted-colors
>ambient
>drone
Thanks to all the fantastic ambient and ambient-ish artists that are in and have been in these threads, a number of you get airtime and recognition on alternative radio.
>>63661243
Thanks man! I'm this guy >>63653768
I'm sorry to hear about the suicidal tendencies, I really hope everything gets better for you. At the same time, I hoped there would be some people that could kind of feel the shit I made on a more personal level because I was making that album in between my second and third time I was put on suicide watch. Again, I hope everything gets better, man.
>>63657357
Thanks man! I know some people really didn't care for how heavy the bass was, but I was really trying to create something very dark and overwhelming and I'm glad you liked it!
https://elemantraband.bandcamp.com/album/flower-bored
>alt rock
>indie
>shoegaze
>emo
>90s
We're one of the few actual rock bands that frequent /mu/ so if youre into that give it a shot.
https://hangingtreealgorithm.bandcamp.com/
>instrumental hip hop, electronic, lofi, scifi
check out my most recent album!
rec:
>>63655592
>>63655164
>>63653398
>>63653378
>>63662267
I'm another artist in this thread. I'm a big fan of Cav Brew and Shaun Hathaway, but I only listened to that release once and I don't plan on it listening to it again, as good and accurate as it was. My discography up until the winter of last year was one convoluted suicide note. To most everyone it was just pretty music, but if you explain the ideas behind them, it spelled out some pretty dark things. There was one person who I used to be friends with that figured it out and told me to go get help before anything bad happened. I didn't go get help until I had already tried once. It's the darkest place I had ever been in my life and I don't want to go back.
>>63661243
>Shall Be Lifted - is that mostly field recordings and samplings? I love the little bits of organ, and the delay/reverb on the strings. Seriously cool tone you're getting. Love it.
Thanks..
And yeah, the opening part were a mesh of field recordings but everything after that is original recordings.
>>63662288
Fantastic emo right here! Be sure to check em' out while the thread is still alive.
>>63662222
>I may play something from Music for Drowning on my show this week.
Oh shit this is really sweet, I'm really surprised an album I made in a fit of depression and social anxiety has resinated so well with people.
>>63655480
I'd also like to say that this isn't bad but "post-nightcore" makes it very hard for me to take it seriously.
>>63662436
Totally! My best work has come out of extremely depressive episodes. It's almost like you get disconnected from the world and yourself and producing becomes less about what you're doing and hearing and more about what you're feeling.
https://l-rai.bandcamp.com/
https://tekobsessed.bandcamp.com/album/toar022-roots
>Glitch, IDM, Ambient, Breakcore, Acid, Jams
Second link is my newest album
http://baseball-cards.bandcamp.com/track/houses
>house, dreamy,
>>63662393
I know that feeling a little too well. All I can really say is I'm really glad you're with us and I hope that you never have to go anywhere near that place ever again. On a lighter note, this is Shaun and I'm very grateful to have you as a fan and a fellow artist. Sending love from all of us at Cavern Brew.
>>63656963
Wax cylinder desu
>>63661243
Hey man, thanks a lot! I'm glad you dig it!
Your stuff is interesting: it's not often you hear an accordion in rock music (although I guess your stuff is more folky so it's more to be expected). Your voice is also very nice, especially in the upper register. Overall though, it's not my thing, unfortunately. The lo-fi doesn't have that satisfying tape feel and the accordion playing isn't brilliant. I like the fuzzy bass on the second track though!
>>63656963
I used the iPhone voice memo app and Audacity to make my EP, but now I've got Ableton and my friend should be giving me back my proper recording device.
>>63662964
Oh, and I forgot to say, my favourite moment on the album is when you laugh and count in 1,2,3,4 on the second track. You have a charming voice and it shows you're having fun! Plus it leads into that heavy bass. Have you considered having percussion? Percussion coul have worked really well here!
Captleviticus.bandcamp.com/album/vignettes
>ambient, drone, lofi
>>63656217
The coolest
>>63662924
Grow House sounds like wax cylinder ;)
>>63661175 here. Would love to hear some thoughts, but here are my recs for now.
>>63661118
Really fun, great tone. Made me dig up my old Literature record and that's a huge complement.
>>63654554
This is what chill sounds like.
I'll keep listening to the thread but those two are my favs so far.
ROÄC
http://roac1.bandcamp.com/
>Crust punk
>Influenced by Amebix, Axegrinder, Deviated Instinct, Misery, Neurosis
We have a self-titled LP and a demo tape called Rites Of Ostara out on Profane Existence and Less Art Records. Tape is a 4 song preview of our upcoming second LP. Both releases are available directly through us or on Profane Existence's webstore.
Modok
http://modok303.bandcamp.com
>Power Slop
>Influenced by Autopsy, Entombed, Possessed, Gism, Bolt Thrower
Just released a 7 song self-titled cassette demo. Limited to 100 Copies, hand numbered. Available through our bandcamp.
Hey anon, is it too hard to start a little label? I want to release limited-edition recordings of my shit, but I'm too insecure to contact a little indie label.
Any tip?
>>63661175
The music is good but the aesthetics are shit.
It feels like one of those awful emo revival post-ironic bands. If I want to listen to screamo, I'd prefer an overdramatic band with melodramatic names instead of something called Pregnancy Pact. It feels like a joke.
https://mrbonespdx.bandcamp.com/
>>63663368
cavern brew guy here. all you really need is something to press tapes with and the expectation to not sell very much at first.
also it doesn't hurt to try and contact small review labels for hot shilling action. (try and read some of their reviews though first. it's free publicity, so it's only common manners.)
>>63663447
At least you like the music! That's my primary concern. Thank you for listening.
>>63663368
>>63663249 here, tapes are the way to go. 100 tapes cost us 250 bucks, we invented a label just for the release of this tape but I'm thinking about doing cassette releases for other bands due to how cheap it is
https://desordre.bandcamp.com/releases
>hardcore punk, crust, d-beat, noisey
https://deadhournoise.bandcamp.com/album/bad-things-are-going-to-happen-to-good-people
>extreme metal, crust, grind, powerviolence, sludge
https://nickyflowers.bandcamp.com/album/anomaly-of-self-awareness
ambient synthwave B)
I dunno I just made it.
https://mmmmmisterrrrr.bandcamp.com/
>>63664744
listening to this out now, and it's the best I've heard today. really exciting stuff.
I also released my record this past Friday, and I'm also a Michiganbro. if you're into black metal, check it out at allpalaces.bandcamp.com
LIVE THREAD LIIIIIIIVE!
https://kristophergeorge.bandcamp.com/album/ghosts
>>>New album!
>>>Progressive Indie Electronica
>>>New Sounds
>>> Guitar, Rhodes, Electronic drums
>>> Dark Themes
>>63665283
>allpalaces.bandcamp.com
Thanks a ton man, glad you're digging it.
Listening to All Lies right now, very well done. This a one-man project?
>>63666340
yep, I think I work best alone.
thanks for listening. I'll def keep you guys on my radar
>>63666553
Seems to be working for you, this is awesome.
And likewise. If you're around the Detroit area at all we'll be opening the Magrudergrind / Yautja show at The Sanctuary on May 23rd if that piques your interest. Should be a really good show.
>>63663490
>>63663660
Interesting. I am planning on doing limited releases (25 copies), but I don't know a lot about managing and shit.
How do you promote your label apart from bandcamp threads?
Also, how does selling tapes through BC works?
>>63666931
nice, I'll plan on it. I've been meaning to check out the Sanctuary for some time now, and this is a good opportunity
>>63667035
for ads, again, send it to review sites. add your music to sites like discogs and rate your music to build some interest. put up some ads around your town. maybe play a few shows. if you want to be a dick, you can spam it on /mu/.
when you add an album, there will be an option to "add merch". click that. it will lead you to a page where you can fill out info on the physical release, be it tape, cd, whatever.
https://ditchdays.bandcamp.com/releases
Here is my band. We released our first single today. Tell me what you think of it! I´ll be listening to your stuff, anons
https://yaboyknyt.bandcamp.com/album/tears-of-teal
>Electronic
my promo album.
https://lookmaze.bandcamp.com/ .
>>63653145
Nice, I like the singers voice. Is that you singing anon? You should invest some money in a good condenser microphone, although I do like the fuzziness on the second track, and I suppose if the lo-fi thing is what you like than don't let me stop you. What is that fuzzy instrument playing the basslines?
Okay here are some bands I like to listen to on bandcamp...
https://spermdonor.bandcamp.com/ Weird noisy punk rock with crazy time signatures and quietly mixed scream vocals.
https://aaronmaine.bandcamp.com/album/the-sad-album Emotional rock and roll. But its not emo though.
