Prog rock master race, reporting in.
Men
Men
bossa nova
girls
Female
Birds
fluid
We live in a world where people sexually identify as prog-rock. The SJWs have won
>>63642552
My heart beats in 15/8 time, shitlord
IDK probably green or The Amazing Spider Man 2.
Agender version 2
>>63642552
fucking social studies warriors!!!
>>63643949
>>63644176
Beat me to it
>>63644176
top kek
>>63644176
3rd row 2nd column
In transition
>>63644176
holy kek
>>63642531
yeah also
>>63642399
If you meant genre then ambient
>>63643949
I consider myself to be non-binary and this is a fucking mess. This is one of the reasons why I don't like to associate myself with Tumblr.
>>63644424
>non-binary
I want to know what you think that means. Tell me.
>>63644672
It means he/she/it is a special snowflake
>>63643949
Is this real?
experimental post female
>>63644687
I didn't ask you.
Speak when you're spoken to and not a moment earlier, piece of shit.
>>63644736
damn...
>tfw unty shit talks someone
>>63644672
It means that I don't feel like either a man or a woman in terms of who I am. I also occasionally experience body dysphoria, but not to the extent that I'd want to fully transition. It's just frustrating for me.
>>63644687
Nice meme.
I identify as power electronics myself.
>>63644736
Holy fuck, man. Chill out. :/
I like progressive cock
>>63644755
>I don't feel like either a man or a woman in terms of who I am
That's nice.
What do you think it means to feel like a man, and to feel like a woman?
>>63644784
People that butt into my conversations irritate me, especially when it's for the sake of some intellectually dull drivel like that.
>>63642399
Girls. But I am interested in some girly guys.
>>63644811
Ok but how has your day been?
>>63644736
Sorry, I forgot to check my privilege
>>63644736
>unty gets triggered again
Why am I not surprised?
>>63644855
Don't play this fucking game with me, you cunt.
You know what you fucking did, and I do not tolerate that shit. I was having a discussion with someone. This discussion did not concern you.
Do not fucking supply answers to inquires that were at no time, in no sense, presented to you. It's nice that you have an opinion, but I do not fucking care, and you will not fucking use my private discussions as a platform for spouting said opinions. I will not fucking tolerate it.
Do not make me fucking repeat myself.
>>63644811
I don't know. It's hard to actually say what you'd think it wood feel like to be in a state you've never been in.
Suffice it to say, some people definitely feel male, some female, some neither.
>>63644941
>I do not tolerate that shit
>It's nice that you have an opinion
someone took a shit in unty's cereal today
>>63644963
wew
>>63644941
>>63644963
Uh oh, he repeated himself. I'm scared to see what the retarded nigger will do now!
>>63644978
*would
Sorry, it's late where I am.
>>63644963
Go off, unty!!
>>63644963
>>63644963
just relax have a dorite
>>63644998
asshole
>>63643949
lmao is this for real
isn't epicene the same as androgynous? isn't 'third gender' just non-binary? is gendervoid any different than just agender? is 'pangender' really a thing like how the fuck can you be all the genders? and what the fuck is 'aliagender'?
i'm pretty sure that more than half of the non-cis people in tumblr aren't really gender dysphoric and just use this as a ridiculous way to feel different and 'special'. they do the trans movement more harm than good.
>>63644424
You're defined by your genitals, get over it.
>>63645059
that's subjective, no idea why you care about what the dude calls himself
>>63645031
I'm tired of this shit. I just want him to kill himself or shoot up a school already.
>>63645097
I don't care that much. I'm just trying to make the world less complicated than it has to be. People didn't have to deal with this subjective gender stuff in the middle ages.
>>63644989
>>63644995
>>63644998
>>63645024
>>63645031
It's sad what 4chan has done to you people.
Seriously, have you any capacity for self-expression? Have you any communicative talents to exercise, or is it just vapid memes at this point?
What a sad condition.
>>63644978
So you can't explain it?
You can't tell me what, to you, distinguishes feeling female from feeling male?
>>63644963
he said, while reaching into his backpack
>>63645131
it's even less complicated not to care about trivial shit
>>63644963
is this that one dude who had all those cringe posts where he was like "KILL THE NORMIES" and shit like that
>>63645044
>>63644424 here
I agree that a lot of them do the trans community more harm than good, especially as they make themselves look ridiculous to everyone else, leading to even more hatred of the trans community by, for example, people on here. I think a lot of them are just confused youngsters who feel the need to categorise themselves really precisely, to the point of madness. And yeah, a lot of it has to do with wanting to feel "unique".
These are also people who don't haven't realised that socialism, while admirable in its intentions, is doomed to failure.
>>63645145
4chan didn't do this to me. I was like this before I started using it. Just like how you were retarded before you started using it.
>>63645131
People didn't have to deal with computers, clean water, or living past 60 in the Middle Ages either.
>>63645193
If I'm retarded because I've a gift for rhetoric and written expression, so be it. I'll gladly spend this lifetime retarded, and a dozen lifetimes thereafter.
>>63644811
Filtered
>>63645238
>a gift for rhetoric and written expression
That's a weird way to spell "thesaurus"
>>63645059
Probably bait, but it's unavoidable that trans people exist and are valid. Gender does not equal sex.
>>63645145
I know that you think it sounds sketchy, but can you imagine what it would feel like to be female? Not in the sense of having a female body but a female identity or sense of self? I hope I'm explaining myself well....
>>63645255
>Filtered
Meaning, of course, that debilitating challenges to the intellect prohibit you from understanding my posts and you're too scared to face that fact that I'm simply your intellectual superior.
Noted.
Have a nice fucking day.
>>63643949
the internet made millions of people go Completely Insane. It's like the 60s all over again
>>63645145
>>63645238
>Unty posts some ridiculous pseudo intellectual nonsense
>again
It's not even funny at all anymore
>>63645237
Those are positive developments of society. Creating more minority groups to divide groups of people into is hardly if ever good.
>>63645296
>it's unavoidable that trans people exist and are valid.
nice cultural marxism, shlomo. How exactly is it unavoidable? there weren't any transgender 50 years ago. Now everyone and their grandma wants to become transgender, its propaganda I tell you
>>63645296
I could imagine it to a much greater extent if you'd describe in earthly terms what constitutes a female identity or sense of self.
I'm asking for your subjective definition.
If you can't fucking explain what constitutes a female identity/sense of self, why should anyone bother with the idea that you possess one?
>>63645357
>saying that I'm a talented writer is akin to "some ridiculous pseudo intellectual nonsense"
Your existence is a deterrent to language and with every utterance you further diminish its weight.
>>63644963
You are embarrassing yourself, GayNigger McGenderQueer.
Back to tumblr with ye faggotry and pseudo intellectualism
>>63645455
The thing is that you aren't a talented writer. Anybody who graduated highschool could write the drivel that you post here. The only reason they don't is because they aren't self absorbed autists, like you are
>Its an "Unty ruins all the fun and spergs out on unsuspecting anons" thread
>>63645384
>there weren't any transgender 50 years ago
wew lad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Prince
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen
>>63645476
>You are embarrassing yourself
Really?
Do you really want to do this with me right now?
>>63645508
I am a talented writer. In my few years of writing I've already collated several accolades for both fiction and poetry, and writing isn't even my focus.
>>63642399
agender-maverick with hints of leukogender
>>63645537
>>63645306
>>63645386
>>63645238
>>63645145
>>63644963
>>63644736
>>63644672
>>63645537
>>63645537
Show me proof. And what is your focus, getting a gf?
>>63645384
>Who is Wendy Carlos
That is but one example, but there were trans people 50 years ago. Back then it wasn't as nearly widely accepted as it is now and so more trans people hid their feelings. Again, I know this is bait for an argument, but I've humoured you.
>>63645386
>If you can't fucking explain what constitutes a female identity/sense of self, why should anyone bother with the idea that you possess one?
This is actually an interesting point. If your state of being or identity is not related to your physical sexual characteristics, then what is the point of gender anyway?
But, it is clear that some people clearly feel that they do not belong in their body.
Nobody would undergo a lengthy and uncomfortable transition only to put up with intense discrimination if they weren't completely desperate to be the opposite sex (not taking into account biological intersex conditions).
>>63645384
>there weren't any transgender 50 years ago
I think trans folks are mentally damaged and even I know that's wrong. Fucking stupid millennials who don't know shit.
>>63645615
Dude, I'm quite literally done with you. Consider our conversation terminated. Beyond this point, my interest in this thread rests strictly with this non-binary person, and this person >>63645476 if he ever conjures the courage to reply to me.
>>63645623
>it is clear that some people feel that they do not belong in their body
I do not doubt that. I'm asking this particular person what makes them feel alien in their body.
>>63645723
>>63645723
>literally done with you
As opposed to being figuratively done with him? Great writing skills, Chomsky.
>>63645623
society needs rules or otherwise everything starts to collapse. If everyone could just choose their gender like it was just another flavor of ice cream at the soda fountain, then what is it that makes us truly human? god made adam and eve not adax n stev@. besides its undeniable the media is corrupting youths mind with unwholesome content, I believe anime played a large role, steven universe is stasi tier propaganda... in NYC one can get sent to jail for 'misgendering' these are trully the last days...
>>63644176
amazing
>>63645723
>someone asked for proof of the rewards he's won
>"I-I'm done! Conversation over!"
this is embarrassing
>>63644963
>unty
/r9k/ pls go
>tripfag trying to make a name for himself by shitposting
>people respond
>>63644176
my sides
>>63645384
look at how most of the 20th century was (well, and the centuries before too), specially the first half when women couldn't vote in most parts of the world, men using long hair or dressing effeminately was unacceptable, coming out as homosexual was total social suicide and until one point illegal, and just in general gender roles were much harsher and not diverging from them wasn't accepted.
obviously if someone didn't feel 'cis' back then they would not have dared make it public.
>>63645889
Nice damage control unty
>>63645889
He was known on r9k before he even started sperging out all over /mu/
im genre non conforming but if I had to choose definitely hypergrunge
>>63645723
I don't know who this person is, but they're ridiculous
your haughtiness seems to betray a sense of insecurity, and flaunting your accolades without proof on an anonymous discussion board is suspect
If you want to know more about non-binary people, look it up instead of trying to tell everyone on this thread to shut up so that your majesty can have a one-on-one with some anon who obviously wasn't soliciting such discussion.
Calm down, for fucks sake
You sound like an angry grandmother
>>63645723
I guess if I had to say what makes me feel like I'm not male or female...
I'd say that I don't feel a real connection with any typical behaviour or whatever of either gender, nor do I feel comfortable with my body being so male. If I could change it, then I would want to be more androgynous. Shorter, less hair, higher voice, differently proportioned. Genitals are tricky, considering a halfway house would be a micropeen or an enormous clitoris, neither of which is particularly appealing...
>>63645815
Amusing to read, a competent parody of the average /pol/ user.
>>63645889
>he's not familiar with unty yet
educate yourself senpai
>>63645723
Is there ever a time where you're not a gigantic faggot?
>>63645972
not sure if i should laugh or cry right now
>>63645623
>If your state of being or identity is not related to your physical sexual characteristics
This isn't entirely true though, trans people have been known to exhibit dimorphic traits of the gender they identify as.
EG certain structures in the brain that differ between sexes, absence of phantom limb pain.
I really hope we research further in to this sort of thing as a society, I mean, homosexuality was considered a psychotic condition for a very long time.
Hopefully with greater understanding, the treatment of trans people will improve, but this thread has enough evidence that we are far from that point.
>post yfw youre not unty
>>63645972
>he's a black tumblerina
>my sides
>>63645909
>look at how most of the 20th century was (well, and the centuries before too),
it must've been hell. Just look at these people. they seem really oppressed and unhappy
>>63645723
this is why everyone hates tripfags
>>63646221
That's a drawing, it's not even a photo. What the fuck are you on about
>>63645815
>these are trully the last days
Thanks for getting that song stuck in my head, assweasel
Gender disphoria is a mental illness and like all mental illnesses should be dealt with a therapist rather than a surgeon.
>>63646437
People with depression take antidepressants.
People with anxiety take Xanax.
People with gender dysphoria take hormones.
>>63646517
The underlying cause of that disease is chemicals and the mind not you not being a woman
>>63646517
>implying hormones dont make the problem worse a lot of the time
A lot of transender people are in their late teens. Something tells me adding more hormones to the mix of shit we call puberty isnt a good idea
>>63645834
>Talking to UNTY
>Ever
Really they did it to themselves.
>>63646517
But it's like undermining the whole notion of it you know? It's a vicious cycle, people are told its ok to choose whatever gender they want. It's normal to be a girl with a penis a boy with a vag This fucks with people's minds, specially kids, kids are very vulnerable, it confuses them, creating more gender dyspeptic. I believe nature is very wise and it's wrong to mess with it
>>63645145
>trying to ask someone who cannot comprehend what it's like to be a certain gender to explain what being a certain gender is like
>>63642399
any music by created by black people
jazz blues rap rock
>>63647632
>I can determine that I identify as neither female or male without knowing what constitutes a female or male identity
>>63647792
>caring THIS MUCH about some total fucking stranger's interpretation of themselves
unty stop being autistic
>>63647792
It's an extreme example, but you don't feel like a Koala do you, but you don't know what constitutes a Koalan identity do you
>>63648030
No I don't, and I never asserted that there existed a Koalan identity either, so the entirety of that argument falls flat and you can take it and that shit-stained analogy and shove it back up your ass from whence it came.
>>63648116
how is it possible to be this mad at all times
>>63648116
The existence or lack of a Koalan identity is irrelevant. It's the point
>>63642399
Attack Helicopter
Cringe thread? Cringe thread.
>>63648192
>the existence or lack of a Koalan identity is irrelevant
You're missing the fucking point.
This person >>63644424
said they consider themselves non-binary. When asked what that meant, they replied saying they felt like neither female nor male. Such a statement necessitates that you, in at least some subjective sense, have conceptualized the female identity and the male identity.
I did not mention a Koala. I did not assert that there exists a Koalan identity. If such does exist, I can say nothing regarding whether I identify with it, because I know nothing of it. That is the fucking point. It is illogical to say you identify with something or do not identify with something without some subjective conception of said thing.
Reply to me again. I will gladly continue this rhetorically curb-stomping, little shit. I get goosebumps from educating my lessers.
Mods, can we delete this thread already? I think Unty is going to push some helpless girl off a balcony if he gets any madder.
YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS, OP? YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T PROOFREAD YOUR POSTS?
>>63642459
A very good choice
>>63648432
I WARNED YOU ABOUT AUTO CORRECT BRO! I TOLD YOU DOG!
>>63648348
My point was that there's no way in hell that someone would say that they don't not identify as a koala
>>63644176
Was thinking the exact same thing lmao
>>63644963
how does it feel to be the resident sperglord?
>>63648432
all poor OP wanted to do was talk about prog rock
>>63648586
Because most people do not observe the existence of a Koalan identity.
Your point is shit.
>>63648548
On that note, Homestuck updated today, so that's pretty hype.
>>63648733
Oh really? They don't?
I said it was an extreme example, with my point being to make my point very clear that you can tell you don't identify as something without nescessarily knowing what it is
you guys realize that unty is just a layered post ironic performance piece right?
>>63648836
there's no fucking way someone can be THIS ironic. we've caught him sperging out when nobody was even looking, that'd require EXTREME dedication to pretend to be a faggot when nobody's paying attention.
>>63648766
homestuck is still fucking around? i thought it died like, 3 years ago
>>63648825
So your plan was to propose a situation so extreme that it is in no sense comparable to our present dispute?
You would not be allowed on my debate team.
>having a favourite genre
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>63648825
>>63648888
Correction: You would be allowed, but strictly as a gimmick acquisition. We would send you out whenever we wanted to lull our opponent into a false sense of security.
>>63648888
>debate team
hahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>63648888
>>63648943
fuck off back to hell tripnigger
>>63648888
It was my plan to use a rediculous scenario to make the idea behind it clear
>>63648943
stop sperging out you fucking attention whore
Hip-Hop.
legitimately scared that unty might become a threat to national security one day
>>63648888
>my debate team
Didn't know they allowed autists on debate teams
good thread
bravo unty
>>63649462
Holy fuck this guy is messed up.
>>63649506
well, he's black and autistic
that's like the worst combo possible
Ambient
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv8dArBfU4Y
>>63649549
He looks like the afroamerican version of this gentleman
>unty decimates yet another thread
MY BOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>he doesn't all of unty's spergouts for copypasta
>>63648888
Chill man, there is no sense in arguing with people on 4chan.
>>63649759
*save all of
>>63642399
Kill all trannies.
> 1. Human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait: “XY” and “XX” are genetic markers of health – not genetic markers of a disorder.
> 2. No one is born with a gender. Everyone is born with a biological sex. Gender (an awareness and sense of oneself as male or female) is a sociological and psychological concept; not an objective biological one.
> 3. A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking.
> 4. Puberty is not a disease, and puberty-blocking hormones can be dangerous.
> 5. According to the DSM-V, as many as 98 percent of gender confused boys and 88 percent of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty.
> 6. Children who use puberty blockers to impersonate the opposite sex will require cross-sex hormones in late adolescence. Cross-sex hormones are associated with dangerous health risks including but not limited to high blood pressure, blood clots, stroke and cancer.
> 7. Rates of suicide are 20 times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex reassignment surgery, even in Sweden which is among the most LGBQT–affirming countries.
> 8. Conditioning children into believing a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse.
See, if it’s truly possible that a male body can be born with the wrong brain, or that a female body can be born with a male brain… it forces the left to concede that gender is not merely a product of societal construct, but biology. If, in order to avoid classifying transgenderism as a psychiatric disorder, we’re required to recognize the inherent biological, scientifically measurable differences between genders… that creates incredible contradictions for feminism, gay rights progress and ultimately, yes, transgenderism.
With that said, Men.
It is us men who have shaped civilizations out of the bare earths
this explains everything
>>63649683
kek it's uncanny
>>63649832
shut up bitch lmao go yank your cock
>>63644963
lol why are trip fags always so dumb
>>63645238
"gift"
I'm impressed. This is probably the most rotten thread I've had the joy of reading in a long time.
>>63650090
I didn't ask you.
Speak when you're spoken to and not a moment earlier, piece of shit.
>>63650090
>>63650105
All because of a typo too, hahahaah
get in here lads
>>63647445
>>63650125
It's almost kind of sad at this point...
>>63650105
This is a meme now
>>63645537
If you're so good at writing fiction tell us about your sex life faggot.
I sexually identify as Starless
Unty?
more like
CUNTY!
>>63650524
>>63650556
dude. nice.
>>63648825
I read this whole argument. If you're still around in this thread, I think I could possibly explain why you think you're "non-binary" and make you change your view a bit.
>>63650734
Nah I'm not the person who was non binary, I'm just a random person
>>63650855
Ah sorry.
>>63643949 is who I meant.
>reading this whole thread
if anyone still has actual questions about non-binary stuff, i'm non-binary as well.
>>63644978
I don't feel male or female, I am male. I was born with a penis, and not a uterus. I'm pretty sure if I was female I would feel the same, but would be in physical pain once every month. It's not a matter of how I think I should be, it's a matter of how I am.
>>63642399
men
>>63650734
not the nonbinary dude here but why even try to "change their view" if they're comfortable with it
the only reason i can think of is that it brings you some personal discomfort, which really requires introspection rather than changing the other person
>>63651358
Christ, this. Some people are really obsessed with trying to prove someone "wrong", as if some flimsy argument could do that much at once.
>>63651358
not him but this transgender stuff really disturbs me for some reason, don't hate them, just seems really screwed up
>>63649832
>>63651491
i don't even think you have to understand it fully, to just accept it and treat trans/non-binary people as equals. of course understanding helps, but it's mostly just being respectful that matters.
>>63651565
you really showed that thought-criminal who's boss. Who does he think he is, coming into our safe space with his damn Truth Bombs(tm). Hes definitely a neckbeard and most likely a white male
>>63651491
no worries man, it's understandable to be disoriented by this type of shit (not trying to patronize)
being disturbed isn't something you can easily control. i'd say not hating them is a good enough of a basis.
>>63651491
its good enough that you dont hate them
>>63651127
Do you identify as an attack helicopter?
Bringing this thread back on topic, I'm a big fan of women.
>>63651851
any recommendations? i've been gargling dicks for a while now, trying to get into something different
>>63651704
nice dude
>>63651797
good joke did youre mom tell you that
I'm mtf but identify as genderqueer. To answer your original question, though, atmospheric black metal.
>>63644687
Nigger, when it comes to people, the proper gender neutral third person singular pronoun is "they." Don't refer to people with "it," that's dehumanizing.
>>63651878
I like getting pegged by tall short-haired women with flat chests, so I don't think that my world is much different than yours.
>>63652011
short hair / flat chest is patrician to be honest
>>63652036
Thanks, man. I'm only attracted to the female body from the waist down, so I don't fuck around with extra embellishments, you smell me?
>>63651973
No, "they" is grammatically incorrect. The only way we ever had to refer to a gender neutral entity was "he." As in the way all Latin-based languages do it.
It's like how "man" refers to humankind, not just male humans.
>>63652330
who actually has such a raging hardon for traditional, literal interpretations of grammar that they refuse to use terminology that the rest of society uses regularly
>>63652330
>>63652375
Yeah, using he is pretty archaic at this point.
Unless you're a high-school English teacher, "they" is in pretty common usage.
>>63652330
There's a difference between prescriptive grammar (how language ought to be, according to some arbitrary standard) and descriptive grammar (how language is used in the context of everyday life. People have been using "they" as a singular for hundreds of years.
t. linguistics buff
>>63649832
>4, 5, 6, 8
I agree to some extent. I believe if the transition is biological (hormones and surgeries) it's dangeorous to do it while they're still children since puberty brings a lot of confusions with it. At that age not liking to be their gender doesn't necessarily mean they're really trans or have serious gender dysphoria, so changing their body could end up fucking up their life. In some cases it's okay that it's done on a teenager but a LOT of things have to be considered and they must be sure their dysphoria is for real.
If the transition is just letting them dress, look and behave as another genre then it's fine..
>7
Interesting. 20 times greater tho? Source on that?
It wouldn't be that weird if the suicide rate is higher (but prolly not 20 times higher). If the hormone treatment or surgeries aren't done correctly or the results just aren't very satisfying it could actually further that feeling of 'this is not my body' and therefore make the problem worse. But I
traps
