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Lads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z53O4IJnYe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9-AW5QPBSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATsQUZ9BP9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-E-n3dyyxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LTJQXJz0eg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDD5BTFM2hA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDD5BTFM2hA
>NEW PUCE MARY LP STREAM
>https://soundcloud.com/poshisolation/sets/puce-mary-the-spiral-lp
>>63559801
Can anyone rec some other stand out releases from Hanson Records besides the better know ones? This one in the op seems pretty sweet so far.
>>63560494
Raionbashi - Kollekte
Envenomist - The Sixth And Seventh Key
all the Underground Series tapes
John Mannion - Slice Through Or/In Glassmetal
all the Nevari Butchers shit
Hollow Bush - Negative Line
is there a chart for noise ? I want to get into this but i'm lost
>>63561021
Look in the archive for the last thread there were a bunch posted
>>63561021
Fuck charts, honestly.
Get these. Pay attention to record labels and connections between artists. Go from there.
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Journey-Into-Pain/master/240405
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Noise-War/master/1365
https://www.discogs.com/Various-White-Eye-Of-Winter-Watching/master/386694
https://www.discogs.com/Various-California/release/704439
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Viva-Negativa-A-Tribute-To-The-New-Blockaders-Volume-I/master/30629
>>63561056
>>63561111
great, thanks
>>63559801
>>63561111
Damn I really need to get into The New Blockaders.
I think I remember Fernow talking about them in an interview somewhere as being one of the first noise groups to pioneer "reverse" acousmatic listening, in the sense that you were supposed to be picturing them banging hammers on a metal floor; they were kind of exploring this idea of physical actions being captured as audio, and the process of visualising a narrative that would change depending on the interpreter. As in, the metal was being struck in different places which produced different tones or timbres and a listener would be trying to work out what's actually going on to make those recordings.
I hope that makes sense. To me that idea is really fucking cool. It has definitely been done is electroacoustic music, but I love the seedier and more violent spin that noise has on the same practices.
>>63561111
nice digits, and White Eye of Winter Watching got me into Hospital Productions. Great for driving home at night after a spring time snowing
Currently listening to this for the first time. It's amazing.
>>63561917
Yeah, seeing and hearing those sorts of gutter-industrial visions applied to ideas pretty heavy on the academic angle is really compelling.
TNB are tops in every regard. Both in their concepts and the way those concepts translate into sound and object.
When you do start getting into them, don't miss out on Nihilist Assault Group, especially the Aural Retribution LP. One-off(not counting the NFF live performance captured on the Silent Movie DVD/12") collaboration between Rupenus, Lessard and Fernow. Up there with the best work in any of those guys' bodies of work and one of the best noise releases of the last decade.
>>63562106
It's one of the all-time great noise compilations for sure.
Just the way in which it's constructed and the roster of artists featured on it is a mindfuck, and that's not even getting into the sounds themselves.
>>63562492
>(not counting the NFF live performance captured on the Silent Movie DVD/12")
Wait, I just remembered that the NFF performance wasn't even a collaboration between that lineup, as Lessard didn't perform and could actually be seen watching it from the side of the stage and Rupenus most likely didn't show up either. Fuck, I wonder what the actual lineup was.
Richard Dunn was credited with "live support" on it, I guess he was one of performers?
>>63559801
What is the album in the picture?
>>63563166
Kevin Drumm - Malaise
Boo
>>63563667
wondering who's behind the costume
>>63563720
The flickr album tags both Dominick and Matt Folden of Dual Action. Nothing on the third person.
>>63563784
>Nothing on the third person.
My money's on Kris Lapke.
Was the 24 Hours Of Showers performance the second-ever EJ live appearance? The only other one that I'm aware of is one he did when the PTC box came out(pictured here).
>>63563865
No idea. That image is the only other bit of information about a live EJ performance I've ever found. I know nothing of when exactly that performance took place.
>>63563865
>>63563945
Do you guys know if Dom has ever performed as RSE? I'd throw all my money towards a show for that project. It pushes all of my buttons and then some.
>>63563945
>I know nothing of when exactly that performance took place.
2010, according to an Instagram post I stumbled upon once. It was to commemorate the release of the Trans Industrial Assembly box-sets.
>>63564025
I don't think so. Same with CC. VS is the only of the trinity he's performed as.
Also
CC > VS > RSE
imo
>>63564025
None that I am aware of. Of the RSE/VS/CC trilogy, only VS functioned as a live act.
>>63564051
>CC > VS > RSE
No way, I gotta agree with the other dude about RSE being the best of the lot(though I'll admit to having a heavy fetish for that sort of thick "heavy" ambient music and generally not caring much for techno).
RSE and CC are the keeper projects for me.
When it comes to VS the only release which has had a long-lasting appeal to me is Death Is Unity With God.
>>63564199
Really? Not even the early hypnotic loop based VS stuff? Or Washington Buries?
>>63564199
>Death Is Unity With God
Some of the best work to his name is in that thing, I fucking swear. Hugely overlooked.
what is all this gear and how do i become aaron dilloway? pls help
>>63564299
I thought that the first VS tape was alright and that it had an interesting atmosphere, but I think that he took that "pure" transcendent religious mood and did more interesting things with it in CC.
It was a long time since I last listened to the Washington... decks but I remember not liking that material at all.
>>63564352
>Some of the best work to his name is in that thing, I fucking swear.
Agreed. It's what I hoped that project would be all about when I first heard it on the White Eye... comp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAxJJQml5e0
>>63564637
He talks about his approach and gear use in this video. Good listen from start to finish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rtBvK8nNAI
>>63564786
And wasn't there some dude who periodically posted in these threads who's going to college in Oberlin and regularly makes visits to the Hanson store? I remember him saying that he talked with Dilloway at length about his equipment and how he uses it.
>>63564786
thanks, i'll check it out
>>63564352
One of the most hypnotic albums I've ever heard, truly fantastic
I wanna make more /noise/ OC. What album should he be listening to?
>>63564786
thanks for posting this!
>>63566160
On A Business Trip To London, and edit him to be in heavy drag or something.
>>63566450
I tried
Make some noise, anon
Are underground Japanese Noise shows as lame as western ones?
>>63567316
I haven't been to a noise show, but they look either fun as fuck or boring as hell.
Not exactly underground (for noise anyway) but Incapacitants put on a hell of a show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdiWGq8955M
>>63567316
>>63567454
>what is attentive listening
If the only reason you have for going to a show is getting drunk and spazzing out you might as well just go to shitty punk shows instead. Not every noise artist is Incapacitants.
someone got a dl for new Puce Mary?
>>63567566
noise literally came out of punk/psychedelic culture in Japan
>>63566845
nice
>>63568175
No, noise came out of Futurism, Dada and (primarily European-led) experiments in electroacoustic music and musique concrète during the second half of the 20th century.
>>63568175
>>63568343
Guys, guys! You're both correct.
>>63568369
Japanese noise was just one strain of the early formation of noise into a concrete culture with its own specific methods and audiences. Saying that it was entirely the beginning of noise is hella dumb.
You think Boyd Rice or Richard Rupenus or the Come Org/Broken Flag/Controlled Bleeding crews had any idea about Japanese noise(which was at the time still in its infancy and had no concrete unified identity) in the late 70s and early 80s?
>>63568139
GIVE ME A FUCKING DOWNLOAD YOU ATTENTION WHORE SLUTS
NOT PUTTING OUT AND KEEPING IT TO YOURSELF WONT MAKE DADDY LOVE YOU
>>63568343
Yeah but in Japan it started differently, I wasnt saying all noise started in Japan you autist fuck
>>63568452
>or the Come Org/Broken Flag/Controlled Bleeding crews had any idea about Japanese noise
Yes because Whitehouse was big in Japan, they toured there
there are Japanese records from from the 80's talking about William Bennett's penis. They bought all those records coming out
>>63568175
>>63568343
This guy's right that you're both right >>63568369
Personally I still like the Dada stuff more than the Japanese stuff
what sort of time period did japanoise as a phenomenon take off, anyway? late 80s and early 90s?
>>63568602
mid 80s
>>63568550
>Yes because Whitehouse was big in Japan, they toured there
>there are Japanese records from from the 80's talking about William Bennett's penis
Nice way to ignore
>in the late 70s and early 80s?
Of course they came into contact eventually, but in those formative early years these were still isolated cliques carving out their own paths.
If anything I'd say that the UK, European and US people were more important in the formation of the whole thing in those days because it was simply easier for them to communicate with each other than it was for them to communicate with the Japanese or vice versa.
>>63568452
>Saying that it was entirely the beginning of noise is hella dumb.
Congrats, you discovered why I said both posts were correct! Well done.
>>63568757
>early 80s?
Yeah, most of those records were there by then. 20 Jazz Funk Greats had a Japanese release in 81 and that's not even counting imports and bootlegs.
my point was that noise music in Japan grew out of punk and psychedelic culture which is why Incapacitants shows aren't going to be the only ones where people are "getting drunk and spazzing out"
>>63569068
Yeah, there's a time and a place for getting drunk and spazzing out (while noise). Going nuts during an excellent cut-up or PE set is wonderful. Doing the same during a LAFMS or Damion Romero set is not.
>>63568175
And that makes every noise artist a branch of that i their motivations? This is the problem with you guys that want to lump every noise artist under the same category. There's value in noise other than a "statement".
>>63570703
>And that makes every noise artist a branch of that i their motivations?
nope I didn't say that, just that noise music in Japan grew out of punk/industrial and psychedelic culture
>>63571141
Then you shouldn't have replied to a post with something irrelevant. Please don't blame people for interpreting your posts incorrectly if you're not being clear/replying to an argumentative post with one that goes off on tangent to make a random observation.
>>63571248
are you fucking autistic?
the person said
>you might as well just go to shitty punk shows instead
my point was noise shows are punk shows in Japan by and large and the reason they are is that noise music in Japan grew out of punk/industrial and psychedelic culture. Psychedelic music in Japan also being a large part of what is considered "punk"
https://clyp.it/2onb1qk2
>>63570703
>>63571141
>>63571248
>>63571385
Are you dudes 12 or some shit? Move on already.
>>63571429
i'll do what i want
>>63571385
Yeah, and that has nothing to do with the main point of what that poster was saying, but regardless carries contextual implications which will cause another poster to mistake what you're trying to point out. Idiot.
>>63571534
kill yourself
>>63571676
Great rebuttal
>>63571697
Thanks
>>63571474
>>63571534
>>63571676
>>63571697
Yeah, there's no way you two retards aren't underage.
These threads really should be less inclusive.
>>63571724
Fuck off HBGay
>>63571745
Good job ignoring it you fucking retard. What are you adding by whining about it again?
>>63571754
rude tbqh
Anyone here excited for the new Gerogerigegege album? https://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Moenai-Hai-%E7%87%83%E3%81%88%E3%81%AA%E3%81%84%E7%81%B0/release/8236319
>>63574047
sorta, it's cool that they're back but I'm not really a fan of that style. also:
>style: parody
is discogs trolling or is this album actually a parody of something?
>>63567566
The best noise shows I've been to have been the ones with insane crowds. There's only really shitty video of it on youtube (it was nearly 10 years ago) but the Wolf Eyes set at Supersonic 07 was the wildest gig I've ever been to and so much fun.
>>63568453
I NEED A FUCKIN DOWNLOAD
>>63574047
So i take it that the preorder tapes are sold out? I can find the CD on a few sites
Saw Abjekt and Händer som Vårdar a few hours ago, it was good.
