Is he the most significant musician of our time?
does /mu/ seriously not fucking recognize him
maybe next time I should post a thread with Kanye you fucking children
I prefer Henryk Gorecki.
>>63554939
How is he more significant than Arvo Part?
>>63554847
not a lot people in here or outside of /mu/ listen to music outside of rock. eletronics is perhaps the furthest most people in here go
No.
>>63554752
Boulez FTW
He's not that significant.
Haas is far more significant. Same with Lera Auerbach, Lachenmann, Ferneyhough.
Rautavaara should be mentioned as well.
Part writes very nice music, but "significant" isn't really the word I'd use to describe him. Schoenberg was far more significant for 20th century composers. even Arvo Part started out as a serialist, and thats all thanks to Schoenberg.
>>63555391
Schoenberg and Stravinsky are easily the two most influential musicians in the 20th century
>>63555291
Wuorinen isn't anywhere near most significant.
>>63555292
He's dead tho.
>>63555391
>HAAS LACHENMANN AND FERNEYHOUGH ARE MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN PART
Go back to RYM kid. None of them made music as radical and as captivating as Part.
No one likes you avant teen faggots, because you don't know shit about the genre(s) you posture around.
He's shit.
>>63555509
Well the critics as well as the populace disagree with you strongly.
Saying some minimalist hack is the most """significant""" of our time is laughable.
Seriously though, significant to what? Music? What would be one of the bebop/free jazz or electronic music pioneers, since they substantially innovated and changed music forever. Culturally? Well, that could be anything. The Beatles and a fuckton of other artists are way more significant to our culture.
I'm sure you can find a way to irrationally disagree with me, but I'm not even going to bother wasting time over something so pointless.
I think that Carly Rae Jepsen is captivating more people to a higher level than these contemporary art musicians will ever reach.
>>63555484
Part never wrote anything "radical" though.
for your information I've never been to RYM, and your dismissal of those composers (or any composers) based on which sites they're popular on isn't really a very good idea.
Haas actually writes very interesting music, same with Ferneyhough and Lachenmann. I would argue that much of their music is more captivating that Parts. Once you get Part's tinntinabuli / renaissance inspired feel, he doesn't really go much beyond that. Its just one melody against a tintinnabuli triad. Pretty music, sure, but not as "captivating" as a Lachemann piece, where every moment is important. Likewise with Ferneyhough.
As for "kid" and "avant teen... dont know shit about the genre(s) you posted" my bet is I'm older than you (born 1986) and know more about these genres than you do (music degree, have been into Arvo Part for 6 years at least)
>>63555391
it is Pärt, not Part
>plebno part
>significant
>>63555528
>something popular must be good
I see that Britney Spears is the greatest composers of our time according to your ideas
>>63555617
it's too fucking hard to put the umlauts in
>>63555611
>>63555627
see >>63555617
also delet this thread
>>63555617
*le tip*
>>63555617
no shit, I just cant be bothered copying and pasting the umlaut.
You dont write Dvořák every time do you?
>>63555599
>some minimalist hack
If you don't acknowledge that Part is legitimately talented then you are not educated in modern music.
>>63555611
Either you've been to RYM, or you go to /daily/ where RYM shits post, or otherwise through 4chan were memed those composers through RYM posters. Haas and Lachenmann are a boring evolution of Ligeti and nothing more. Ferneyhough's gimmick ran thin after he peaked with La Terre.
Part has shown to a generation of music lovers, particularly classical listeners/performers, that there is a way forward for classic beauty.
I love Wolfgang Rihm and Harrison Birtwistle but they are not significant compared to Part.
>>63555629
What do the art critics think of Britney Spears?
>>63555633
>>63555656
>>63555657
kill you are selves
part and pärt are not the same things you f*aggots
>>63555636
>umlauts
>expecting me to type meme pronunciation guides on my keyboard
>>63555682
>minimalist
>talented
Pick one.
>>63555704
See the previous reply.
>>63554752
>most significant musician of our time
>white man
/0
>>63555736
hey aids skrillex
>>63555617
>>63555688
>this autism
>>63555682
I just think you're fangirling Part a bit much. He writes nice music, but its not really "significant" or even interesting. Listen to Symphony No. 4 and tell me you were "captivated" the entire time, without a single second of boredom.
I actually knew about these composers before I came to 4chan. Learned about them during my music degree and the various annual composers workshops I attend.
Also what about other tonal 20th C composers? Tavener? Jenkins? Adams? etc?
Personally I think Lera Auerbach is one of the most interesting composers of our time. Kind of the spiritual successor to Schnittke
>>63555766
you're damn right i'll be autistic about it
he's our national musician and our pride and joy so just le fug off
>>63555791
>Listen to Symphony No. 4
Oh wow, a piece 40 years after he started composing in a minimal style.
Great shitposting, poor qualityposting.
Adams' approach is just Neoromanticism with minimalist bent.
I never heard a masterwork by Tavener.
Jenkins is by far the worst modern composer I have ever heard.
>>63555854
Nice try poser but I said OUR GENERATION.
Maybe next time you'll learn something about classical music before posting.
>>63555873
>>63555836
Exactly, tonal composers are kind of dumb in the 21st century. You can see Part no longer produces anything of real value, as opposed to guys like Stockhausen who kept pushing the envelope until the day they died.
Part was cool in the 90s, with Fratres, but his tinntinabuli is a bit stale now. If he was a great composer, he would still be producing great works.
I don't know. Good question though. Maybe Hilary Hahn, but I'm trying to think of a composer too.
HE'S A NO TALENT!
>>63555873
>OUR GENERATION
Part was born in the 1930's, and you were probably born in 1999. Lol.
>>63555921
>Part was cool in the 90s, with Fratres
Man I'd hate to be a literal retard who doesn't realize Fratres is from the 70's.
Did someone say most significant musician of our time?
>>63555972
The piece may be from the 70s, but Part's fame didn't really happen until the 90s, with said piece.
I'd hate to be the retard who didn't really know about Pärt's career.
>>63555990
Meh Spectralism isn't that important a mvement. Very few great works from very few people.
>>63556022
>but Part's fame didn't really happen until the 90s, with said piece.
Man I'd hate to be the literal child who confuses Gorecki with Part.
>>63555810
*You're damn right I'll be autistic about it. He's our national musician, and our pride and joy. Fuck off.
(kys)
>>63556064
>said piece
>fratres
>by gorecki
At least the kpoppers can stay in their containment thread. Fuck off to /classical/.
>>63557237
>Pärt
>/classical/
>>63557237
lmao
>>63557297
>>63557312
>Arvo Pärt (Estonian pronunciation: [ˈɑrvo ˈpært]; born 11 September 1935) is an Estonian composer of classical and sacred music.[1]
>>63554752
Is that Tarantino with a beard?
>>63557383
I'm lmaoing at you being a mega pleb.
>>63557446
Lmao in your containment thread
>>63557461
Can't force me. I can do what I want.
imo he is ugly
fuck off boldfaure
>>63557383
The only person in /classical/ who like Pärt is poly and no one likes him.
Thomas Adés will be vindicated by history and remembered as one of the underappreciated greats of the current era in the same way Bach is now regarded as the greatest of his era
he was born on 9/11 kek
