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what the fuck

https://twitter.com/shallowrewards/status/713023736610484224
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what
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If you're associated with Pitchfork you deserve to be beaten to death too
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same because if he is actually paying someone to do marketing they should be killed for the atrocious job they are doing. can you say literally who
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Same
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Even Chris Ott is telling Will to stop viraling here, go away Will.
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>>63539712
this faggot is angry about anything fuck this fooled dip shit
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I'll even pay for the legal fees
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>>63539712
who is he?
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>>63539712
Who?
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>>63539712
>what the fuck
are you implying he's wrong?
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Christ Ott, infamous former p4k writer and perpetual midlife-crisis-haver
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>>63539957
hi father john misty
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>>63540012
meme
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>>63540012
>mfw beardcore
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>>63540012
father yawn pissty
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>>63540012
papa juan brumoso
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>>63540012
pere jean brumeuse
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why is he such an asshole?
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>>63539712
i agree with him
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>>63539712
>>63540930

This guy seems like a right cunt and I don't even like csh or slint
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>>63540930
>john darnielle is a tbhposter
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>>63540930
>>63541371
>implying women can understand Spiderland
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>>63539712
Chris Ott has a point
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>>63541556
Fuck off Jezza
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>>63541432
>women can't into sad whiteboy virgin music
shocker
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>>63539712
>it's a chris ott tweeted something edgy thread
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I appreciate him as a counternarrative/dissident voice, but he goes way left field sometimes.
>Ott calling anyone a piece of shit
How can he lack so much self awareness?
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>>63543420
you would think calling underage music bloggers faggots on twitter would make people just forget about him already
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edgy
although yeah, his marketing isn't excellent, even if his music is
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>>63543495
did he call Marcel a faggot? What the fuck
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>>63543514
Yeah.
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>>63543495
Why is he so bitter? Why do you think he's so angry all the time?
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>>63543568
Idk. I guess there just needs to be the renowned washed-up grump of music journalism and he just fits that bill.
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>>63543514
Well Marcel is a faggot, so
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>>63543603
yeah but thats like a grown adult (married with a kid) on twitter saying that shit. it would be different if it was just an anon on here.
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>>63543632
Plural kids. The dude's like fucking forty Twitter beefing with literal twelve year olds.
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>>63540012
PAPA JULIET BR
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>>63540012
FATHER JOHN PR PLANT
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>>63543420
god, this is what I hate most about Ott. He just posts this "duhh, everyone knows this!" with no evidence, acting like some no-proof conspiracy theory is general, accepted knowledge.

There is no proof that Father John Misty is an industry plant.
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>>63543593
Does he just not want people to forget that he was involved in the initial creation of Pitchfork? I mean he's obviously intelligent but all he does with his time is make sarcastic edgy remarks against other people in the music scene on Twitter and rail against pitchfork. He should spend more time with his kids ffs
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>>63543817
you are highly over-estimating how much time it takes to write tweets. it's like minutes out of his typical day.
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>>63543817
I mean the only music writers still following him on twitter are most likely only doing it ironically, just following him for laughs and just enjoying watching him dig his hole even deeper. I really don't understand how he can go so far with this.
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>>63543514
>>63543603
Brooklyn Russell did that. Chris has no clue who he is and asked "is this a /mu/ thing?" when presented with it.
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>>63543790
>There is no proof that Father John Misty is an industry plant.
I mean, have you heard his music?
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>>63543882
I don't particularly care for it, but he has literally tens of thousands of fans. if not hundreds of thousands.
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>>63543790
This

I love him but he's a huge shitbag. Dude has some serious self-loathing issues to work out.
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Will Toledo from Car Seat Headrest is a furry
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>>63541432
PJ Harvey is on the record saying Spiderland was an influential record for her.
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>>63543959
He makes good music
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>>63543867
Chris knows jack shit about anything. See proof: the FJM debacle. He barely knows anything about the music industry anymore so he's not gonna know anything about new and up-and-coming blogs/writers.
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>>63543867
I think BR and Chris are the only people I've ever seen bad-mouth Marcel in public.

There was that chick from Joanna Gruesome who called Marcel an idiot for not understanding the 'Unbearable Whiteness of Indie' p4k article. But that's different.
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>>63543959
proof?
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>>63544045
But Chris hasn't said shit about him except express confusion.
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>>63544045
>I think BR and Chris are the only people I've ever seen bad-mouth Marcel in public.
zoe camp called marcel a nerdy loser who she'd never date
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>>63543829
Yeah I realise. It was probably stupid of me to make evaluations of his family life and how much time he spends with his kids etc. I suppose I just wanted to end with some kind of statement of better stuff he could devote his time to
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>>63544076
Yeah. Each time I read a Marcel thinkpiece or review I tend to express confusion too.

*ba dum tiss*
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>>63544106
No. She literally just said "I'm not dating Marcel." If you look on twitter you can see that they're still good friends who talk to each other.
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>>63544122
he's getting lots of attention online. this is the absolute best thing he can be doing from any perspective. do you think your time is best spent being nobody and having no influence or effect on anything? good for you
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>>63544106
zoe is a fucking lesbian so yeah no shit
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>>63539712
Are you him? No. So fuck off with your shock about someone else's opinion.
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>>63544147
hello marcel
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>>63544230
hi zoe
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>>63544230
hi zoe
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>>63544246
hello marcel
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>infighting among and between people no one gives a shit about
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>>63544298
hi chris
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>>63544342
hi fructose corn syrup
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i would have told you Ott was my favorite music critic until very recently.

i mean look at this shit.
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>Chris Ott
DUDE BITTER OLD MAN LMAO
>Car Seat Headrest
DUDE SIGNED TO MATADOR LMAO
>Marcel
DUDE OBSCURE MUSIC LMAO
>Father John Misty
DUDE FLEET FOXES LMAO
>Zoe Camp
DUDE /MU/ LMAO
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>>63544417
honestly I'm tired of this board talking about Spiderlan tBh
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is there anyway to contact him? do you think he would respond on Twitter? I'd like to ask him for career advice.
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>>63544622
almost everyone below 100K followers sees all their twitter mentions and often reply
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>>63544640
I guess I gotta make a twitter now. thanks.
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>>63544622
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

if your question is anything to do with "how to music journalism", my response is always "don't".
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??????
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>>63544934
wtf is wrong with him.
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>>63544934
how the fuck do you have 2.9K followers?
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>>63545033
used to write for a music blog that had a pretty big following then went full on establishment into the world of finance
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>>63545111
which music blog?
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>>63545121
pitchfork.com
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>>63544934
please shut the fuck up
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>>63545142
Do you have links to your work anywhere? Please?
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>>63544433
>DUDE SIGNED TO MATADOR LMAO
This explains everything.
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>>63544934
>organically gained praise
>artisanal Bandcamp page

I fucking love this guy.
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>>63545519
what because he's an idiot?
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>>63544934
>>63544417
>>63543420
>>63540930

simply what happens when you give retard autists writing jobs

his existence is an episode
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>>63545592
the dude has such an ego-boner
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>>63539712
I agree 100%.

>>63544934
I fucking love this guy.
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CSH is boring as fuck and he can't complete a single coherent musical idea
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>>63545590
>what because he's an idiot?
Because he's mocking his stupid lingo.

Talk in sane person language without throwing in meaningless and inappropriate adjectives to describe something.
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>>63543420
but this actually is common knowledge, Gira was an abusive ass to damn near everyone for years
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>>63545721
Gonna need a source on those scurrilous lies.
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>>63544045
>There was that chick from Joanna Gruesome who called Marcel an idiot for not understanding the 'Unbearable Whiteness of Indie' p4k article. But that's different.
yeah, because she's fucking mental. Chris doesn't have that excuse.
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>>63544681
lol is this real?
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>>63545745
there's literally a recording of him verbally abusing jarboe on one of his own damn songs

I can't remember the title but srsky you're a clueless retard if you think he's not a dick
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>>63545831
Nice source, you self-righteous cunt. Fun fact, verbal abuse is part and parcel of marriage, but you don't have to worry about that as a fulltime keyboard warrior and huge and piece of shit. Spend more time with your kids, Chris. Jesus Christ.
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>>63540930
i feel like the fact taht john responded was the funniest part
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>>63545888
http://youtu.be/GeNc4tI5km8

an argument is not the same as verbal abuse you fucking idiot. this is verbal abuse.
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>>63545994
Hello, tumblr!
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>>63544934
What a free-range idiot
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>>63546011
go back to your containment board retard
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I got so fucking pissed when they deleted his reviews, by far the best writter they ever had
>b-b-but indie isn't dead 16 yos on tumblr still think it's a thing
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>>63544073
we furries have claimed him. he is ours.
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>>63546033
>an argument is not the same as verbal abuse you fucking idiot. this is verbal abuse.
H E L L O

T U M B LR
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>>63540930
That mountain goats guy is a pretty big faggot turns out
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>tfw Will keeps rising no matter how salty /mu/ gets

Bretty gud actually
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>>63545888
No he's right, Gira was a complete asshole during the 1990s when he was a major alcoholic edgelord.

I say this as someone who has listened to Swans for years. The man is extremely egotistical and is prone to berating others.
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>>63546058
Go to bed cease
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>>63546129
dont dont dont
please
who moves mountains and kicks heroin?
the goat!
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>>63546145
I agree but citing that specific example is asinine. Literally everyone has told their spouse something they've regretted at some point.
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>>63546224
The trouble is that this is on tape and that people put it under a microscope to analyze for eternity.
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>>63546224
the whole point of the song is that this shit was a regular occurrence and it was more than just saying mean shit. He berated people into submission and manipulated those around him
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Looking at his other tweets it seems he is prejudiced with Bandcamp in general, and since Will's one of the biggest artists coming out of there at the moment it seems he gets the stick. Just comes across as a bitter old cunt to be honest.

Car Seat Headrest is an undeniable talent, compared both to other Bandcamp artists (who are often quite simplistic or short) and original musicians in his age group generally (given he created most of his tracks alone with little to no help). I hope he keeps getting recognition. There are people a lot worse that have gotten a lot higher in life.
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>>63546284
[citation needed]
From his own mouth, it's an apology to Jarboe in particular.
See >>63546275
You sure are a presumptuous cunt.
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>>63546073
Neither it helps that you're just acting stupid.
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>>63546058
I'm a really tolerant guy, i really hate pol, and I'm in favor of gay equality and trans equality, but being a furry is fucked up.

You should not be proud of yourself.

You should get help.
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>>63546310
csh blows and people who like him know dick about actual underground music
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>>63546313
People like Gira do stuff like that to get where they want to get, and to get what they want out of people.

Manipulating people is an unfortunate necessity towards gaining success or achieving goals. The price of that is potentially harming your relationships towards others and harming yourself. We're all used in some way by each other.
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>>63546406
>I like real mature underground music for real mature underground music listeners like myself
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>>63546370
My point is that taking a random exchange between spouses out of context and using it to characterize their entire relationship like this guy >>63546284 is trying to do is ridiculous.
>>63546427
Agreed.
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>>63544230
Zoe i love you

marry me WHEN?

idc if you cuck me with girls
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>>63546449
>Agreed.
If we didn't use each other, we'd get nowhere in life. As cold and Machiavellian as it seems, it's correct. You can't truly be pure at heart, you'll get fucked.

And to add to that, there's a difference between using people towards mutual benefit, and exploiting people where they get nothing out of it and you gain everything, which is pretty fucked up.
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>>63545169
he's talking about chris ott

and p4k removed all of his work when he started saying conde naste owes him money for it now
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>>63546510
Agreed; pt. II
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Chris is an angry 40-something who has tweeted 33,000 times. He is the definition of a loser.
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>>63546431
no

I'm saying this kid just blows ass and people only like him because they're impressionable. his songwriting is awful.
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>>63546605
>I'm saying this kid just blows ass and people only like him because they're impressionable. his songwriting is awful.

Agreed, and people only listen to him because he viraled to hell and back and got promo from a label that picked him up.
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>>63546605
No, you're saying you're a boring, pretentious cunt.

You sound like one of those Tumblr feminists who think people only disagree with them because "they don't understand" the knowledge they have, and not because - insane, I know - people have their very own thoughts and opinions.

Given that he's a solo guy who started recording in a car, this is a totally appropriate situation to say this, though: What's your band?
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>>63546402
furry is all about tolerance! slip into the hottub with us.
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>>63546632
>and got promo from a label that picked him up.
That's the point of a label though.
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>>63546637
his songwriting is lazy vapid crap. His origins mean nothing when the ebd result is mediocrity. Everything he writes sounds like a really basic idea that he never bothered to finish.
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>>63546665
NONONONONONONONONO
I won't tolerate that
Tolerance applies to a wide variety of things, many of which I disagree with
But
I will never tolerate your unhealthy sexual habit
Honestly get help
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>>63546685
https://carseatheadrest.bandcamp.com/track/the-gun-song

I agree, look at this. It feels like he didn't put ANY thought into it at all!

I'm gonna say this again: Where's your band? Where do you write acclaimed, respected reviews? Please link me to your poetry page full of complex rhymes and word arrangements.

Do you have any proof at all you're not just pretentious and full of shit?
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>>63546681
yes and will toledo got to that point without actually doing anything to deserve it

his initial buzz came almost entirely from his own viraling and his music never has and never will be able to back it up
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>>63546685
Well he's working with Chris Lombardi ay Matador Records and is one of the top selling artists on bandcamp in his early twenties. What have you been up to lately?
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>>63546402
>being a furry is fucked up
Grow the fuck up, its not 2005 anymore
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>>63546681
>That's the point of a label though.
Yes, but he was only noticed by a label in the first place because he spammed his shit with absolute impunity, and gullible teenagers actually liked it, and this is what got him signed.

What labels look for is someone who is easy, a cow to get milk out of, you can see this for how he's been marketed lately.
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>>63546765
Holy degeneracy, Batman.
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>>63546742
>if you don't do thing you can't criticize it!

I tour in a band but that's beside the point. His music is tepid garbage, all it has going for it is """lyrical depth""" that is barely there to begin with
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Reminder that Car Seat Headrest has always been trash and if you like his music you should kill yourself.
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>>63546806
>>if you don't do thing you can't criticize it!
Goddamn right you can't criticize it if you don't have some degree of experience in the same regard.
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>>63546806
Yes, if you criticize technical aspects like songwriting and pose around as if you're a knowlegeable veteran the burden of proof falls on you.

Please, please post your band. I beg you.
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>>63546806
>all it has going for it is """lyrical depth""" that is barely there to begin with

He is not on a label because of this, he's on a label because he's generated "buzz" around himself, regardless of the quality of his music.

If you have buzz then labels can milk you, doesn't matter if you have talent or not.
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>>63546765
I've been in favor of gay rights since I was 13 in 2007. I've marched in support of the Black Lives Matter movement and spent many hours volunteering at the phone banks for the Sanders campaign.

Furry behavior is degenerate.
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>>63546849
>Furry behavior is degenerate.
It truly is.

Your twisted fetish isn't a civil rights movement, stop pretending it is.
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>>63546844
I am aware. People acting like his music is worth anything are the gullible teens matador is trying to extort
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>>63546765
m8 there is nothing ok about fetishizing beastiality. If you have the financial resources, check yourself into a mental Institution immediately. You're likely in need of medication to function like normal person.
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>>63546756
>his initial buzz came almost entirely from his own viraling and his music never has and never will be able to back it up
You believe he got signed to Matador based on /mu/ viraling?
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>>63546822
>If you like things that I don't like you should kill yourself
Hello, /mu/!
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>>63546742
I don't need to be a 5 star chef to know when I'm eating shit m8
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Think of how little music journos contribute to the world. Now think of how little a former music journo who just tweets all the time contributes. That's Chris Ott.
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>>63546756
lmfao /mu/ has way less pull than you think it does. Lombardi probably doesn't even know who we are.
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>>63546806
>>63546876
>completely ignored it and didn't post his band

And here you have the prototype of the /mu/ Car Seat Headrest hater: Salty fuckers with their own shitty, small bands hopelessly angry that this guy got big and they didn't.

Nice talking to you bud.

>>63546935
Actually, you WOULD need to be a good chef to really, actually appreciate good food and the care and artistry that went behind making it. Otherwise you'd have no clue.

Your hollow argument sounds deep af though.
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>>63546939
>Think of how little music journos contribute to the world.

Chris Ott actually contributes more than most music journos do because he acts less like a spoilt brat and more like a bitter old man that tells people what he actually thinks.

The circlejerk that music journos find themselves involved in is an extremely disgusting thing to witness from an outside perspective.
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>>63546541
no i was talking about myself, asnwering his question as to how I have so many followers
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Criticism against Will almost always boils down to people bitter over his success lmao. You guy realized he recorded and self released albums relentlessly for six years before he got on the majors radar, right?
>>63547016
This. Ott is bad but Zach Lipez and friends are way worse.
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>>63547078
>This. Ott is bad but Zach Lipez and friends are way worse.

What dirt do you have on Zach and his friends? Do tell.
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>>63547016
Entertainment journalism is pretty much just glorified advertising. It doesn't really matter who does it best, it's pretty much as useless as shitposting on /mu/, except they get paid for it and think their opinions matter. Chris is as pathetic as the rest of them even if his opinions are contrarian and appeal to /mu/.
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>>63547130
I mean, nothing you're probably already not aware of. Twitter brigading against people that don't fall in line with their political narrative, the diminishing public standard of the right to be offensive, alienating people that challenge this preexisting worldview. It comes down to a circlejerk.
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>>63544934
>organically gained praise
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>63546685
ur being so aghainst furry is misguided
the core value is tolerence
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>>63547196
I guess so.

I thought you know, had actual dirt between some of them.

I follow a lot of these people myself in order to analyze their patterns and behaviors, and figure out which ones I could push and influence if it ever came down to it.

It's a useful card to have.
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>>63546989
"chef" isn't a colloquial title for food hobbyist you fucking clown
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>>63547063
oh
sup craig jenkins
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>>63547279
Are you freelance?
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>>63547280
What are you even trying to get at here? It makes no sense.
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Nah. Will broke through without going EDM. He did it without a lame Twitter "beef." He didn't cater to the TMZ crowd with desperate antics amd shenanigans. He didn't leak a sex tape even though it's all his fanbase really want if I'm being honest.

Everyone's just projecting because they know 10 better bands who deserve it more than CSH. So do I. They'll just have to take notes and master the art of the new way of achieving rockstardom. Touring your ass off and recording a buzzy lp is not enough anymore. Nowadays artists need to be able to multitask like Youtubers, who are also underrated btw. They're not all good but the best youtubers can write, film, light, mic, block, cast, edit, compute and promote their shit on a daily basis. Being a one-man army is practically a requirement these days.

Also in case Will's lurking I love you baby. ;) don't let the bastards get you down.
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>>63547313
>Are you freelance?
Nah, I'm not a scummy journo, just priming myself in case I ever had to make dealings with some of these critters.

I want to know who's ear is easiest to twist if it ever came down to it.
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>>63547394
I hope he's lurking, CSH naysayers got BTFO into silent mode in this thread
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>>63547418
Under what circumstance would you have the opportunity to do so? I'd like to fuck with Lipez if I had access to him.
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>>63547394
>Youtubers, who are also underrated btw
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>>63547455
For me it's more about knowing the particular inclinations, tastes, and biases of particular journalists and knowing which ones aren't worth wasting your time on, and which ones are.

And why do you want to fuck with Lipez?
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>>63547484
leave anthony alone
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>>63547520
Because I don't like him and want to see him get fucked and no one is doing it for me.
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>>63547394
Hi Will.
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>>63547553
Then become a slimeball journo, fuck one of his friends, or get them very drunk and get dirt on him.

The only way to fuck with slimeball journos is to get down in the mud with them.
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>>63547622
Yeah... I don't have THAT kind of commitment. I struggle with taking care of my own tiny ass blog.
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>>63547668
What do you think of Ned Raggett?
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>>63546939
Chris works IT for major banks. He probably makes more money than you ever will.
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>>63547739
IT is not difficult work and it benefits nobody.
Source; me, an IT major.
>>63547723
I don't, typically. A lot of the stuff he covers I don't really care about.
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>>63547813
>IT is not difficult work and it benefits nobody.
>Source; me, an IT major.
Yeah, it really isn't something to brag about.
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>>63539881
>>63539904
Chris Ott, some Pitchfork reviewer who got kicked out
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Chris Ott is better than Scaruffi

Prove me wrong
>Protip: you can't
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>>63548297
>Do you have an opinion on Piero Scaruffi's work as a music critic?

If you look at his Top Artists that tells you a great deal about his taste:

80s:
1. Foetus
2. Tom Waits
3. Nick Cave

90s:
1. Tortoise
2. Morphine
3. Bardo Pond

00s:
1. Acid Mothers Temple
2. Xiu Xiu
3. Animal Collective

These are absurdly "difficult" artists to suggest as primary examples of great pop/rock music in any decade, and though I suffer for not being able read Italian or Latin fluently, a lot of his writing is the sort of florid, adjective-laden empiricism that really should have stopped once we had the rich-media Internet. Which is to say, once it became the case that anyone - anyone with Internet access, which is hardly Everyone but relative to the number of people who could afford to buy pop music, is a higher percentage than you might realize - can listen to almost anything, your job is to make a convincing case for why a particular record or artist is more worthy than another. I don't think he's accomplished that in many cases.

We share one aspect of taste, borne of overexposure to pop music: an affinity for music that is at once cacophonous and diaphanous, which is meaningless purple nonsense, but, records like Mercury Rev's Yerself is Steam and Jon Hassell's Dream Theory In Malaya are of that sort. On the other side of the spectrum, Diamanda Galas is about the biggest red flag you can put in front of me, in terms of approaching another critic's taste. I respect her technical skill as a vocalist, but she wrote a book called The Shit of God, which is about the direst form of self-serious Goth nonsense yet unleashed on the world. Xenakis, Zorn, the entire DARK SCARY INTENSE INTELLECTUAL ART put-on bullshit funded by rich patri- and matriarchs who need to prove they "get it" is the worst cul-de-sac pop music ever ended up in.
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>>63539712
WHO THE FUCK IS SHALLOW REWARDS??

LITERALLY WHO
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He also thought that Nicole Dollangagner was not a real person and just a pseudonym for Grimes. He kept talking it up like he had inside info and that it was all just a way for Grimes to release music without the pressure of it being a Visions follow-up. All his tweets were like he was revealing this profound truth and that her lack of online activity was "evidence" of her not being real.

Then when she was, you know, a real person went on tour, took pictures with Grimes, he never said a single thing about her again.

Literally the South Park of music critics. Plays contrarian to everyone in place of any serious informed arguments then gets a bunch of mindless drones all to proclaim "we are not mindless p4k drones"
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>>63548367
Chris Ott, ancient flame pile from p4k
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Ott's been completely off the rails since hipinion collectively turned their back on him.
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>>63548472
oh so bitter old writer making shit posts for attention
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>have no fucking clue what this thread is about
>look up car seat headrest
>it's fucking terrible

welp there goes that, who gives a fuck?
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>>63548794
this is a good recap of everything ITT:
>>63544433
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I also want to fight will. He has such a punchable face
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>>63544433
>>63548824
>signed to Matador lmao

I guess this is a bad thing to some people? Matador has great musicians now and again
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>>63544417
It really is overrated as fuck though.
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He follows me on Twitter and it makes me nervous

Can someone redpill me on the FJM thing pls
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>>63544417
Wow, you guys are really such fanboys of that album that you can't even handle that perfectly reasonable point. He doesn't dislike the album, he dislikes music publications clinging onto it for content
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>>63547263
you alright?
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>>63546765
>THE CURRENT YEAR
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>>63544934
>organically gained praise
if he is a /mu/tant then that is the epitome of delusion

if he isn't then that is the epitome of ignorance
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Chris Ott is great, he's completely right on music-related things most of the time. He just says shit without the pussyfilter most people have these days.
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>>63544417
What a fucking asshole.
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>>63552379
people literally say the same thing about trump. just because you're blunt about your opinions doesn't mean they aren't shit
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>>63552523
Except Ott's opinions aren't shit. I'm not praising them just for being blunt, I'm praising them for being both blunt and correct.
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>>63552523
>tfw Chris Ott is music journalism's Trump
who are the others?
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>>63552576
everyone at p4k is hilary clinton
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>>63552548
He just seems to post his edgiest opinions to make people mad and is real bitter that Pitchfork dropped him, pretty boring honestly
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>>63552617
>and is real bitter that Pitchfork dropped him
they didn't drop him. he quit
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dude needs to chill
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>>63552638
then why does he post about them so much
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>>63540012
jesus that twitter fight was hilarious and stupid as fuck
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>>63552576
>Whenever somebody makes a blunt statement of truth that hurts another person's feefees they get strawmanned as a trump supporter/wannabe

Remember to watch yourself for potential trigger words, people.
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>>63552692
That's a weird question
Do you only think someone could post about them as much as he does if they were fired?
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http://tktk.gawker.com/i-never-thought-we-d-find-someone-more-annoying-than-pi-1736990431
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>>63552717
it's just weird to be so obsessed over a place you worked for in the past if you willingly left
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>>63541432
fun fact, ben gibbard played spiderland for Zooey when they were together, and being the simple minded musician she is, didn't get the record at all and called it boring

it was ben gibbard's favorite record since he was a young teenager. he said all this on his nerdist podcast
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>>63552744
he just really cares about the ways people access and introduce themselves to new music, not that many people do
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>>63552759
why does he care though? just let other people find their own way to find new music and grow the fuck up
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>>63543790
Yeah, i like him and loved his videos, but sometimes he's such a self-righteous dick that sometimes looks like he's having a bad day and tries to spread it aka today with Father John Misty.

Oh and yeah he gets a bit too far along on his industry conspiracies, although sometimes he's right or he's exaggerating
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>>63552757
Wouldn't care at all if she still let me smash tbqh
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>>63552791
I'm sure he has his reasons, but you got your answer so there
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>>63552722
I like how that article makes out like Pitchfork chose to delete his work of their own volition. he harrassed them incessantly and demanded they either pay him or delete the articles so they chose the latter
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>>63552795
What happened today with FJM?
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>>63552929
He sent them like 2 tweets
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>>63552615
kek
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Hey Will, great thread, looking forward to your new album.
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>>63552757
>not getting skinny white male suburban angst

can't blame her
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>>63540930
Darnielle so based. Also a girl introduced me to Slint way back when. BAKA.
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His podcasts are so fucking good though. Why does he waste all this hate on fucking Twitter
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