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new /bleep/
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why is tom & jerry so good senpai
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is this a dig at mall grab
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>>63483543
no it's a dig at skepta
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>>63483394

Nah safe space definitely doesn't mean no raunchy ghetto house lyrics allowed. You just made that shit up
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>>63483543
lol u don't actually like his tunes do u
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>>63483556
dont play me for a FOOL anonymous poster

>>63483570
theyre nothing special but theyre not bad
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i cant do it, im out of the loop

how do i get me into the ledge lads
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first for s/t
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CAN'T GET U OUTTA MY MIND
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>>63483632
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>>63483691
Not gonna e-fuck you tonight Summer get lost lol
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>>63483567
if i remember some sjw safe space peeps were triggered by ghetto house, i mean i can understand with how triggered they are by hiphop lyrics.

But desu fuck their opinion ghetto house is cool as fuck.
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Can't get you out of my mind to be completely honest lads :^)
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>>63483701
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>>63483567
safe space mean a safe environment for whatever oppressed minority/gender of the day. Arguing to which extent is retarded.

but that isn't the point, the point is that whining wanting safe spaces free from chauvinistic culture that while at the same time listening to tunes that call women bitches and whores is absolutely retarded and hypocritical

of course, unless there is a healthy dose of "well they are uneducated ghetto blacks, that's how they express themselves" patronizing bullshit
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>>63483488
CAN'T GET U OUTTA MY MIND
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how many calzones have u guys had in your lifetime
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>>63483769

quite a few.
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roflcopter
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>>63483811
>french cars
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>>63483789
hope they were good
ive only had 3 and they were sub-par
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What's is she spinning?
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>>63483937

judging by the shir, probably this lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUe6qsRz9g
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shouts to my leeds men
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>>63483724

>but that isn't the point, the point is that whining wanting safe spaces free from chauvinistic culture that while at the same time listening to tunes that call women bitches and whores is absolutely retarded and hypocritical

It's not though, that's my point. Women can listen to and enjoy that music and still have the right to not get groped by drunk weirdos on the dance floor. There's a massive difference between chauvinistic comments and physical assault. Just because they are listening to that music doesn't make them the equivalent of the subject matter - just like listening to grime doesn't make you a roadman
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>>63484098
>[Deleted]

now this slays me
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and london man seeing dj sprinkles and gerd janson this thurs
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>>63484257
you think its gonna be a good crowd cause its a thurs?
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>>63484257
i want to yeah
tix already at £20 though yeesh
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>>63484167
they have the right to do so. I agree with you. I never said I didn't agree with that

Doesn't mean it isn't hypocritical as fuck. Listening footwork doesn't turn you into a creep.

I just have very little respect for people like Laurel who are always chiming in in talks about safe spaces and women issues in the bleep scene while listening to trashy ghetto tunes that literally call women whores and bitches, and glorify pimping.
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can we all agree women aint shit but hoes and tricks?
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>>63484377
they have a right to a "safe" (fucking hate that word but whatevs) dancefloor**

not to the right of being a hypocritical bitch. nuh uh. not on my watch
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>>63484314
yeah only 4 the heads not many randoms out on a thurs hopefully, one of my best nights out was move d on a weeknight
>>63484315
still well worth it
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>>63484377
>>63484421

I understood you. I'm saying that liking ghetto house and getting offended at chauvinism isn't really hypocritical or contradictory. It's possible to separate the music from the message, or even to have a sense of humor about things. When it happens in real life and entails actual consequences is an entirely different story.
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>>63483724
>>63484377
That reminds me of the time Philip Sherburne wrote an article on Pitchfork saying that "electronic music has a women problem" while there's a DJ Rashad video with women in neon bikinis shaking their asses in their Youtube channel.
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>>63484606
This. Angry man needs to go take an art 101 course lol.
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Not entirely related, but anyone know of any decent garage-house sample packs?

Most house sample packs are either just pure shit or sound like plastic modern tech house, and all the "garage" sample packs are usually just 2 step sample packs which sounds too "tinny" for 4/4 beats. (obviously speaking about drums here)

It's so hard to find decent samples that sound "meaty" enough without sounding too modern, if that makes any sense.
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Serbcore where?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fslhBpTbXs
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CAN'T GET U OUTTA MY MIND
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>>63484606
That's a tenuous justification but let's agree to disagree. I love Dj Screw but I don't go around sippin lean, so I see where you're coming from. I still think Laurel and the rest of rich white girls whining about chauvinism while listening footwork are a big fat phonies

>>63484757
the amount of black dick sucking at p4k is staggering

>>63484841
I said I wanted a double espresso, not a long espresso you stupid coffee monkey
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrZyEhRLamk
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>>63485093
what does that even mean?
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>>63483556
>I've always liked grime
what did he mean by this?
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>>63485093

If everyone that listened to rap music lived their life by its credo, the world would be an insane fucking place. Thankfully, there are people that can differentiate between performance, expression, and real life actions. The people that can't are the phony ones. There really is no other way to spin it.
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>>63485317
however, you're confusing "credo" with "influence". Footwork and the rest of raunchy music might not turn people into creeps, but telling yourself that growing up in the culture that footwork was created/is played in is naive at best. I highly doubt young poorly educated inner city blacks care a lot about differentiating "performance, expression, and real life". Those things are for educated white people. Don't kid yourserlf
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>>63485395
but telling yourself that growing up in the culture that footwork was created/is played in DOESN'T PROMOTE CHAUVINISTIC BEHAVIOUS is naive at best**

fuck I need a coffee
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>>63483724
>unless there is a healthy dose of "well they are uneducated ghetto blacks, that's how they express themselves" patronizing bullshit
>>63485395
>I highly doubt young poorly educated inner city blacks care a lot about differentiating "performance, expression, and real life". Those things are for educated white people. Don't kid yourserlf
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>>63485093
>>63484757
who gives a fuck about p4k

>>>/mu/ if you want to talk about that
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>>63485055

why not just make ur own loops.

its not hard.
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Any man ever see a dubman post and be like "weeeew lad let me just skip over this post real quick lmao"
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>>63485483
all the time LOL
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>>63485055
>sample packs
fuck off and learn to produce
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>>63485395

Listen to yourself. Poorly educated inner city black people are more than capable of doing it - expression through art rather than violence has been a huge cultural motivator for years. That's literally how hip-hop came to be - exactly that way. You've spent too much time on 4chan man, listen to yourself spouting this misinformed bigotry. Terrible.
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>>63485433
those aren't contradicting statements though

The first refers to the "Oh c'mon Professor, Quantavius and his 'GHETTO HOE ANTHEM' is just a celebration of his rich empowering culture. You just don't get it

The second statement is the fucking truth, and in fact, it supporst the aforementioned statement. Do you honestly ghetto blacks are writing their thesis about the Artist and His Art while composing Ghetto Hoe Anthem? Lmfao, it's just stupid party music with chauvinistic lyrics that reflect their enviroment. White people pretending that there's anythind deeper than that in it are the patronizing bit
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who cares footwork is terrible anyway

only techno is real
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>>63485483
this is my first post in the thread but honestly yes. always the same "argument"
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>>63485526
you like trance
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>>63485530
>only techno is real
sad but true
anything that aint techno is at best just a temporary distraction from techno
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>>63485517
>expression through art rather than violence has been a huge cultural motivator for years. That's literally how hip-hop came to be - exactly that way

riiiiiiight, except that the art that's coming out of footwork is MPC smashing combined with moronic lyrics demeaning women. It's fun, turn up music great for footwork battles, but here you are with your rosy tinted glasses pretending there is a parallel between it and the early days of hip hop haha.

kinda like people who think reggaeton is anything more that music grinding party music

>>63485606

trance is gud tho
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future garridge revival soon lads u heard it here first
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>>63485664

>footwork
>MPC smashing

Ok. This will be my last reply because it is clear to me that arguing with you was a huge mistake. I feel ashamed, like I just retorted to an 8 year old calling me names.

Anyway, all art from the ghetto all has the everyday struggle of the artist ingrained - whether it be hip hop, reggae, favela funk, ghettotech, whatever. As an artist you are influenced by your surroundings, and the pioneers of each of those genres had one surrounding in common: poverty.

It makes me sick when people have the mentality that ghetto music doesn't have the same value as whatever imitation it spawned. However, I really can't get too upset since that way of thinking mostly just has to do with ignorance. Often times, the same people who say that shit will tell you in the same breath how legendary and amazing Drexciya and UR are.
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Rodhad went all the way to Ameoba to get a Kings of Leon album
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>angry nigger isnt really a nigger

whoda thoght
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>>63485923
>UR

yeah that's exactly what I was thinking, how can u say underground resistance weren't amazing techno innovators with a real message and at the same time call contemporary detroit music like ghetto house and footwork (even if im not its biggest fan) trashy worthless shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDRfMxxGxlE
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>>63485923
>all art from the ghetto all has the everyday struggle of the artist ingrained

ASS, TITTIES, ASS-N-TITTIES
ASS ASS TITTIES TITTIES, ASS-N-TITTIES
ASS, TITTIES, ASS-N-TITTIES
ASS ASS TITTIES TITTIES, ASS-N-TITTIES
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>>63486021
*were
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>>63485932
impressed by his lack of pretense desu
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>>63485923

I never said ghetto music had no merits tho. However, having grown up in poverty (not a ghetto tho), I can tell you that there is a weird fetishism that happens in North American and Europe when it comes to "poverty music", as you call it.

I am not saying footwork has no value. I personally don't like it, but that is not what I'm arguing. It is a fact that the lyrics of footwork tend to be stupid, shallow, chauvinistic and moronic. Very few people would disagree with that. Let's not even discuss the other production values

The problem is the "free pass", "aww look at them the poor niggers making music isn't that cute" bullshit that happens when criticizing "poverty art". Don't beat around the bush: a lot of "poverty art" is shit. Saying is a reflection of their environment doesn't make it good, or gives it any value. It means their environment is shit, and so is the art. So is a lot of favela funk, and so is a lot of reggaeton. Absolute banal music meant to be played at max volume at some bloc party. You giving it any intrinsic value simply because it was made in "poverty" is patronizing, poverty fetishism. Pretending the lyrics aren't chauvinistic, misogynistic crap simply because Quantavius did it while he was on food stamps is poverty fetishism.

>>63485998
I'm black tho
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>>63486033
Techno escapism : futuristic spaceworld shit

Ghetto house escapism: paradise of fat asses and titties jiggling in your face while you smoke a massive blunt
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>>63486176
Who is fetishising the music, black people who consume it, or white critics, or both?
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>>63486176

lol bro most footwork tracks don't even have original lyrics you should stop cherry picking
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>>63486176
Nah. There's shitty ghetto music, obviously, but there is also ghetto music that is every bit as valuable as its more affluent counterparts. Your problem is you're just lumping all of it into one category.
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>>63486021
>underground resistance weren't amazing techno innovators with a real message and at the same time call contemporary detroit music like ghetto house and footwork (even if im not its biggest fan) trashy worthless shit?

Because *GASP* the music was good, and it didn't need an explanation about MUH GHETTO ENVIRONMENT MUH POVERTY ART as to why it shouldn't be discarded as low value trash

Do you think footwork would've been as popular if it had been made by middle class New Jersey Italians?
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tfw reading all dubmans post and a spicy trance lead comes on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Gu7CXfRdA
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>>63486237
Well that's an entirely subjective valuation then. You dislike footwork for its artistic value, i.e. a subjective valuation, when if you liked it then you wouldn't care about chauvinism or whatever. The misogynistic critique is a pure cheapshot.
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>>63486296
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man this argument is boring
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>>63486296
::okhand::

>>63486198
amateur production but MUH POVERTY so whatevs
and prior to Double Cup there was more lyrics but Rashad had to whitewash it by getting rid of most of the lyrics. Or so I've read.

>>63486234
I like some reggaeton so yeah. I might be going too heavy handed. I just get triggered by poverty fetishism.

>>63486194
everyone is guilty to some degree
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The fuck is going on in here
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getting a bit of a fetish for early 00s tech house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4NBlj1G-2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ID8clpb0Xw
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>>63485473
>>63485506
But I already know how to make my own loops and produce. I meant quality samples as in one-hits, not loops, wasn't that clear in my post?

Most if not all of your favourite flavour of the month producers uses them, you know.
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>>63486768

then compress your own loops ??

i dont understand the problem here famalam.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlJS_ZOdP0c

>>63486768
stock samples always sound thin, lrn2 compression/layering ffs

also >>/prod/ tbqh
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>>63486839

/prod/ is a shit show and you know it lol
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>>63486830
stop harrassing the poor boy
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>>63486864

true.

i guess if you want a good garage pack download the one el-b curated a few years ago.
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>>63486859
whats the problem with /prod/ though?DAW wars aside, it's a pretty good general imo

https://youtu.be/HBbpxesIAHs
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>>63486953

the last time i went in there like 2 weeks ago was ppl posting some edm-tier garbage. no thx id rather post here.
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>>63486351
true
any metaphysical man in?
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im going to post a WIP here one day so fr*aking lush, yall are going to beg me to release it
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>>63487345
haha whose the boy in the pic
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>>63487391

bill gate
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what labels accept demos? plz /bleep :/
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>>63487415

adtbg's choons ltd ; )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN1Na9O-jSc
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>>63487415
can someone actually answer this question
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>>63487542
post a whip my family
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What did you think of Terada's RA mix?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCutmdJDqdE

That little jap can do no wrong
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fucking hell Oval Space keeps putting out these amazing lineups, why does it have to be such an shit venue
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>>63487639
https://clyp.it/tppkafgp
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>>63487768
>https://clyp.it/tppkafgp
Don't send this out
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>>63487753
love it, been on repeat since it dropped
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>>63487768
sounds like a generic palm trax sampler tbqh
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>>63487768

send it to hurfdy seems like the sort of thing he'd stick on his channel
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hops RA mix got me like woiiiii gunfinger nice 1 breddah
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>>63487768
amazing, track oty imo

ripping it and putting on my soundcould
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>>63487768
mall grab here
mind if i release this as my tune
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>>63488023
go for it meme grab
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>>63488023
jk do it
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species death imminent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UngdoNSiBUg&index=554
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Can we all admit this was the best experimental drum and bass album ever?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zeHg3o-_tQ
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anyone use torrenttech and have an invite to spare?
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>>63488812
no
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CAN'T GET U OUTTA MY MIND
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>>63489146
baby are you feelin me feelin you
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