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Monophonic MIDI Edition
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>>63471699
first
What plugins should I download after installing Ableton? for hip-hop production
I'm looking for something with 72 (or more) weighted keys I could still play in 5-10 years of classical piano practice. But my main deal is techno and Kontakt has me covered for piano sounds, honestly. So I'm thinking something like
>MIDI keyboard within 600€
>Digital piano within 800€
>Hardsynth within 1500€
What do you think? Any recs? Am I under/overestimating any categories?
Any thoughts on this? I like Toxic Biohazard.
https://clyp.it/4soy3352
>>63471776
Massive and Serum are nice wavetable-based synths with tons of presets for them, both worth at least a try.
What does /prod/ think of the Akai Rhythm Wolf?
>>63471821
Bass synth is out of tune crap, drums sound cool though.
whats this thread about?
i've been workin in ableton live 9 for a good while producing mostly hiphop type shit so i got a few tips
>From the last thread
Anybody familiar with the ORCH5 sample? It's the one you hear on Planet Rock. I'm trying to duplicate what they did, but it just sounds like ass when I transpose the sample to the correct pitch. This is what I have.
https://clyp.it/thgsza3j
Any ideas?
>>63471943
We mostly just ask questions on how to attain what sound we're lookin for or what's good for this or that. Sometimes people just hype gear or plugins. It's a pretty open thread. Just don't act like your advice is a gift from god, and please for the sake of not derailing the thread don't make soundcloud format posts.
Welcome to /prod/!
>>63471943
I tried to make hip-hop and I struggled with sampling melodies. Specifically, sampling multiple in one track. I can find a great one and loop it and fool around on top of it, add drums, etc., but I can never find a second melody that jives with the first one.
How do I achieve the "fullness" (for lack of a better term that I know) of the guitars in pic related?
It's like they're loud on every frequency at the same time, would be great to get a synth like this
>>63472004
same dude. i just heard a song that made wanna rethink my approach though. I figure it might be easier to make an original beat first and then find a sample to match and chop them together.
I was thinking of checking out Seamless' videos making tracks from scratch. Does anyone else do that? Like, in FL? For other genres?
>>63472119
idk what you mean by fullness but try widening the wavelength of the instrument to spread the sound out and if it sounds too thin, duplicate it with normal settings
yup. . .
She's gone. She went last night
>>63472516
what?
>>63472524
as I said yesterday night, my grandmother was about to die. I thought a few guys, if they were here would want to know or something. . . I don't know
>>63472549
i'm sorry man
4chan might not be the best place to dump your problems though
>>63472549
Well saying "yup, she's gone" is a bit cryptic. I thought some girl left you until I read your reply to that anon.
>>63472549
hey dude great idea make a song and sample a sound of a grandma dying that might help with your pain but make sure you make it funky. good luck :)
>>63472557
nah, it's not a problem. Just thought I would tell the thread from last night. That's all. Well /b/ would be chill with it. But that's about it.
best sample-rate reducer/bitcrusher/waveshaper plugin?
currently fucking with Soundhack ++Decimate, which is alright, feels a bit limited though
>>63472549
sorry dude
>>63472570
flylo already did it
>>63472570
ass
>>63472568
I don't know what more to say about it. I feel like I should be more sad or I am and I don't want to admit to it/
>>63472581
thanks
>>63472573
>Well /b/ would be chill with it
what threads are you going to where anyone from /b/ would care?
Anyone else here tried to get their hands on the lunga lp? No luck for me tho (germany)
>>63472758
/b/ actually is got some pretty decent threads sometimes you just have to wade through the trap threads and shit
>>63471699
Good lunga
>>63472824
This, sometimes /b/ can actually be really good sometimes. Even their music taste can be good. Also they used to have the best porn threads on all of 4chan but those days are gone.
>>63472758
They care, you just have to post exactly what you're thinking.
Idea I posted in the last thread, feedback?
https://clyp.it/yze4kgvu
>>63472772
I'm headed over to a couple of record stores tomorrow, don't expect much though.
Always on the lookout.
>>63472885
>they used to have the best porn threads on all of 4chan
yeah, now it's just "Pics you shouldn't share" threads
>>63473003
They have porn webm and creepshot threads too, but they're always the same posts. And /b/'s taste in porn has reverted to formulaic hd mainstream porn like brazzers and shit, it used to be a spot to get the best obscure videos and get all the info on the people in them. It was almost like a database for the most unique porn out there, and not neccesarily weird fetish stuff just pornstars and videos that were completely unheard of.
How do I know if my headphones are working properly? My new sennheisers just were delivered, everything sounds so different that I can't be sure if it's better quality or some problem
>>63473092
I upgraded from 30 quid sennheisers to 80 quid and they're even quieter. don't think theirs a way you can tell
>>63471978
Maybe if I post cats I will get replies
>>63473589
Post a pick of your dick and I'll give you feedback on your song
>>63471699
>Monophonic MIDI Edition
this meme died already, leave it that way
>>63471978
>sounds like ass when I transpose the sample to the correct pitch
youre probably tryng to change the pitch too much and it sounds bad
>>63473610
I didn't even post a song. Just a sample of a brass hit. That I can't get to sound right.
And no, I have a bf now
Is there a free plugin that can take the low frequencies of a sound and turn them into mono but leave the rest untouched?
>>63473806
that's called mid/sid eq, most daws should have this built in
>>63472004
Chop up the sample and make a new melody.
>>63473806
or create 2 return channels, one with a lowpass and something to turn everything mono and one with a highpass and resample them
>>63473878
Wouldn't this create phase issues though?
>>63473806
voxengo mid side maybe
http://www.voxengo.com/product/msed/
https://clyp.it/xlyxdub4
fucking around with some time signatures, first part is supposed to be 3/4, second part is 5/4
>>63472119
well what have you tried? I mean that album is a masterpiece and took years to make and a lot of their techniques, I assume, are secret. but if you have absolutely no knowledge of it they use a lot of reverb and chorus (duh). old school pedals and shit also, look em up on google
>>63472549
Every day you namefagged in /mu/ subtracted one day off her life.
Tring to read the tl;dr music theory thing but god damn isn't it cancerous
>>63474679
meme theory
Is this worth doing anything at all with?
Just some synth stuff I did yesterday and I can't seem to find anything that goes well with it.
https://clyp.it/w1ac2nab
just noticed it's incredible quiet, you'll need to turn up the volume..
>>63474542
you should subtract all the days off of your own life right now
Total newfag here, couple questions for /prod/;
I'm planning on building my own computer this week explicitly for recording and just wondering what sort of specs should I shoot for? I'll be recording mostly acoustic instruments using probably a 4-8 input interface.
Would sort of processor, ram, and mobo should I aim for, for a good experience while being moderately priced?
>>63475276
At least 8GB of RAM (16 if it's in the budget), best proc within your budget, and a cheap graphics card so you don't eat up CPU power with graphics rendering. Also, a good power supply to tie this all together.
Optional (but totally worth it): SSD, more storage than you initially planned for, better looking case.
As for a mobo, I honestly can't speak to the benefits of using a more expensive one over a cheaper one. Just make sure it's compatible with your RAM speeds and socket type.
>>63475159
Nice 1, friend.
>>63475337
Thanks. I was hoping I could skimp on a graphics unit, but I guess I'll just go full gaming PC.
Anyone here that is decent at producing, but then fucking it up completely in the mastering process?
>>63475473
No man, you can skimp on GFX if all you're gonna be doing is recording.
>>63474950
>https://clyp.it/w1ac2nab
depends on what you wanna do with it but some light percussion like hi-hats etc and some supporting bass would sound nice imo
>>63472549
nope, don't care.
>>63475494
Why are you mastering your own tracks? 98% or more of the best producers don't master their own stuff. The very few who do always own extremely expensive monitoring equipment, specially designed studio rooms, and have extremely good ears and decades of experience.
You can pay for good mastering pretty cheaply.
>>63476149
What, like Fiverr?
>>63476143
You could have provided emotional support to a fellow community member in a hard time, but why do that when you can show everybody how much edgyteen apathy you have, right?
>>63476149
>Why are you mastering your own tracks?
You know most people here are amateurs right?
whats some diy /prod/ stuff I can make?
I built some guitar pedals from scratch already and will build an analog synthesizer with a kit later this year but I'm looking for some small stuff inbetween
>>63476690
phil?
>>63476285
>>63476690
you could put together a dsp-g1 if you don't mind having to buy all the parts seperately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84hkz7G-mXk#t=1m30s
anyone know what synth is being used here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W35kkSfzHWc
is it a Juno or a JP or something?
>>63476690
my lecturer got his hands on a 3d printer and has been using it to create the chassis for his 3d surround sound(ish) headphones
>>63477185
eehrm surround headphones are done in stereo with binaural DSP, sometimes incorporating rumble packs and gimbal head tracking, not with 5 speakers shoved into a headset...
>>63477284
i'm well aware. notice how i said surround sound(ish). that's just how he described it.
>>63477312
intéressant
Can someone explain the difference between exporting songs from a daw and mastering? Like if I get my mix sounding good and have all my eq/effects done, then export it, am I done? Is that the mastering process or do I need some other software to do it, and if so what will it add to my music or do differently from my daw?
>>63477405
No that's exporting your mix, a mastered track will have been limited/compressed/given the professional sheen, basically it's the final polish and overall leveling of the track.
most DAWs have the plug-ins required. to do it properly it's best to have an actual mastering suite. I've used one a few times at uni but for the majority of my work there's no point. I just master in the DAW.
>>63477460
Okay so, what if I make music with no compression used at all, and am able to set the levels of the mix for each song myself, then export the mix, am I good? If I were to master my music and compress it would lose something, or would it bring everything out? I'm sorry if these questions are stupid, I'm just a little lost on the concept of mastering, my exported tracks sound good to my ears but I feel like I'm skipping a step that most consider essential.
>>63477549
well if you don't do any compression on the track/mix at all then you're looking at weak and inconsistent levels. Compression is key.
You will be good, i guess, but the mix will be lacking impact and power, compression brings weight to some tracks, mainly bass.
>>63477549
Also I'm doing a bit of reading on mastering suites, and they seem to just be vst plugins, do I just put this on the master track then use it like any other plugin?
>>63476781
>he must be trollan XD we r all edgy kids here!
>>63477613
>>63477549
well yeah there's plug-ins that can act as mastering suites but i meant hardware based systems in a treated room at uni.
You could technically "master" a track just through putting a multiband compressor, nice clean limiter and a good EQ on your master buss. it would work but yeah, not specialised. it's what i do when i'm just doing small tracks that don't need to be super clean, otherwise i'd have to walk to the studios. can't be fucked with that some times.
>>63477631
dude no one cares about your grandmother
old people die all the time, why do you expect or even want internet strangers to care
since i did take the time to type this i am sorry for your loss
>>63477683
i'm not that guy, not caring isn't even a big deal but announcing it wreaks of teenage edginess
>>63477666
Thanks for your help, from what I gather I'm probably best off to keep doing what I'm doing. I might experiment with a free mastering suite for a bit to get a feel for it, but I have a enough nice plugins that should work just as well. I don't need my tracks to be very clean, in fact it might be better if they're a little rough around the edges. And as for the compression, I get by just fine without it, feedback on my work has been positive so far, and I've tried it on several sound source with no issues. Thanks again, you cleared something up that I've been confused about for quite a while.
>>63477815
don't mention it, happy to help. compression will help, links to your stuff? i'd like to give it a listen if that's alright.
You don't need a dedicated mastering suite.
what DAW are you using?
>>63477916
I'd like to share some of my music but I really try not to post it on 4chan, the stuff specifically without compression is my serious work and that I especially don't want to post here. I hope you understand. Honestly take my word for it, I get by without compression. It terms of my production style think of 60's albums and jazz, so a lot of compression isn't required. I'm not trying to make anything that has a radio sheen to it, I'm just going for what I like and so far other people seem to be liking it too. Also I'm using a combination of Reaper and Sony Acid for a daw, I'm doing separate things in each.
>>63478042
okay fair enough, i can understand that. if you want to share it privately i'm up for that. what style?
https://clyp.it/ldajyeza
>>63478090
I think I'll keep my music to myself for now, it's still a work in progress and the people I've played it to are pretty select. Stylistically, it's goes between folk and electronic music, deeply rooted in psychedelia but with prog and minimalism (i know, it's like the opposite) influences in composition. It's not really 100% in any specific style, conceptually in some ways it could be comparable to Dean Blunt, but musically it's a world apart. Influences include but are not limited to, Frank Zappa, Incredible String Band, King Crimson, Madlib, Steve Reich and folk Anco. I don't know what to tell you other than that, it's different but not foreign and so far it seems to be working so I'm sticking with it for now. I wanted to have a full length release out months ago but due to several unexpected setbacks and perfectionism it's delayed, currently working on putting together a demo with old material and rough versions.
>>63476973
this is sexy whatever it is
>>63478388
yeah that's fair man, cool stuff, if you want any production tips and such, i'm nearly finished with my dissertation and i'll be happy to mix/process or even just give advice. more than happy to contribute.
>>63478388
>Frank Zappa, Incredible String Band, King Crimson, Madlib, Steve Reich and folk Anco.
WEW
>>63478416
>>63476973
jesus christ THIS is Vektroid too?? how does she have so many fantastic productions, christ...
>>1142707
Where do I find drum samples? Preferably one's from an actual kit. I don't have mics to record my own drums yet.
give me something of your favorite vsts to abuse like a filthy whore
i want some new ones
>>63478735
Crazy Ivan is fucking fun for my sci-fi sound design. it's free, it's crazy and it's guaranteed to blow your speakers.
>>63472208
I cant find much for other genres. But here is deadmau5 making a track with plugins only. Youll get full ableton screen at around 3/4 hours. Thats when he starts making the track he uploaded to his soundcloud. Could be helpfull.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t49wBRVmi8
>>63478784
He actually starts making the track at 7:50:00 I fucked up
>>63478529
Is there something wrong with those artists?
>>63478042
Just want to add as a complete aside that I think it's smart to be selective who you share your art with, especially art that is still gestating in the mind and creative process and only partially formed. A few comments from those with an untrained ear or differentiating tastes can destroy your ability to fully realize your ideas. Even if those are positive comments, it could give you confidence to put out a product worse than you would have made without that encouragement. Ideally I let no-one hear anything I've made until it is 100% drop-dead finished and I am so confident in what I have made that any insecure criticism will completely unphase me. Whereas good criticism will come as a joyful surprise to make this good thing even better. Otherwise I have all these outside suggestions in my head fucking with and clashing against my own ideas that I absolutely never would have had originally, and I end up questioning and sabotaging my own , authentic inspiration with an insecurity based in pleasing people.
Do this enough and you either get deadlocked with indecision, end up altering your vision to please unknown people, sound like everyone else, or quit out of discouragement.
is there a visual equivilent for clypit? i'd like to get some feedback on some of my sound design but i'm hesitant to upload it to youtube.
>>63479028
Why not just take a clip of your sound design and upload it to cylpit? Why do you need a video?
>>63479108
because it's audio for a visual clip. i'm completely replaced the audio of a scene from Star Trek Into Darkness with sound i created myself. all audio is my own and i just don't feel good about uploading it onto YouTube right now. The sound supports the visuals.
>>63478784
>>63478890
I appreciate this, thanks m8
>>63479134
Well unless you want to upload it to youtube you're out of luck. Feel free to post some of your audio though and we can give you feedback.
>>63479176
fuck it, i'll youtube it. give me a mo. if i make it private, it can only be seen by those with a link right?
>>63479189
>>63479176
>>63479176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNqGUcq7rXU
>>63479273
Cool stuff anon, sounded good
What is (objectively) the best DAW?
>>63478953
not at all on the contrary should have typed wow i'm genuinely impressed
>>63479300
cool thanks. any comments?
>>63479572
the one that suits your needs
>>63479572
i use two for most of my work. sound design and audio for moving image in logic, mixing and mastering in pro-tools. i suppose ableton is used sometimes, when i do more live stuff.
>>63479873
This is the best answer, every daw from Acid to Protools serves a purpose and is best for somebody. There is no objective best because they basically all do the same things, give or take, what differs between them is the workflow and the quality of that is 100% subjective.
>>63480022
*workflow and look/feel
>>63480074
>>63480022
>>63479953
indeed, like i said, i use two mainly. it depends on what i'm doing. each DAW has it's strengths and weaknesses.
>>63472119
reverb, gain and post-processed compression
also you might like to read this: http://www.polymathperspective.com/?p=2997
>>63478608
>she
>>63478608
>>63480830
I didn't know Macintosh Plus is a transgirl, that's one piece of useless information for today.
>>63472119
no idea what that is but i'll just say layering, compression and panning.
'sup /prod/
we have a /mu/ whatsapp group going and would love that some of you fellas joined us
just whatsapp me @:
+52 1 (669) 106 0198, and i'll add you asap! see you there!
Anyone here good at making trap sounds/melodies and would like to help a brotha out? It'll only take a second.
Got inspired by Ultra
https://clyp.it/ew53u4jr
First time doing this kind of EDM.
Is it passable?
what's up /prod/
I haven't written any music in like 3 months and I finally overcame my creative block today with this:
https://clyp.it/ikubnj0d
Thoughts? It's not done yet, but I think it's promising
>>63481714
>https://clyp.it/ew53u4jr
The synth.. I don't like.
>>63481922
The saw at 1:22? Yeah... Maybe I'll detune it.
>>63481771
I like it a lot.
The kick hits a bit too hard compared to the snare though.
This is the style of music I'm aiming for.
>>63481101
bump
>member of this thread
>show as much support I can
>a few assholes here and there but nothing you can't handle
>tell them my grandmother died
>"Hey guys! I'm going to be an asshole to this anon cause I want to be edgy and look cool!"
>His mom or someone he cares about dies
>Wants support
K
Been lurking for a while, what do you guys think?
https://clyp.it/gfikjcuu
>>63481059
bumping for muh whatsapp group
>>63482531
>Wants support
>4chan
Pick one.
>>63481771
Dude, that was incredible. Wouldn't sound too out of place on an early Plaid album.
Keep up the good work!
>>63482973
/b/ is pretty nice about it.
Why are you so hateful?
>>63482023
Sweet, thanks for the feedback. Will make adjustments.
>>63483003
Thanks man, means a lot
Whats your favorite /prod/ related brand?
Whats a good synth for under 1000$?
>>63483284
Akai
>>63483284
There are too many in too many different tiers to make a simple answer.
God Tier:
Neumann, Apogee, Moog, Massenburg, SSL, Hammond, etc
Mid Tier:
Akai, Roland, Korg, Presonus, Avid, M-Audio
Value Tier:
Nady, MXL...
>>63483284
Probably DSI for me, though I can't tell the difference between their polys half of the time.
>>63483350
Akai a shit. I have an EIE Pro with (as far as I know) failed outputs. Their controllers are alright though.
>>63483429
I've got a MPK49 and it's pretty good and reliable.
>>63483429
>failed outputs
rreally? could you tell me the specifics? i have one too and i think it's t'riffic. there's one bug with the driver that's kind'annoying but it just means it doesn't communicate with one piece of software i use, and it's not a DAW. overall i'm super happy with it.
>>63471699
FL Studio is a shit DAW and I'm done with it
I used to use Logic but my macbook is dead
I want to make beats for a kind of ironic Cloud Rap project, what program should I use?
>>63482531
Jesus Christ you unbelievable asshole. You shouldn't go around expecting everyone to feel sorry for you, especially not on the Internet. Hell, I remember some anons even saying nice things to you. I hope you never come back to these threads with your unrelated shitposts, you ungrateful little shit.
>>63482973
No one wants you to be here if you're actively mocking the notion of a community you worthless fucking stain
>>63483584
He wasn't expecting everyone to care, but assholes who make a point to announce how much they don't care or make le epic namefag jokes about it are objectively worthless people
And fuck your "le internet is for giving ZERO FUCKS XD" attitude
God tier:
Ableton
good tier:
Xfer, D16, KRK
decent tier:
iZotope, fabfilter, valhalla, NI, AOM, LennarDigital
torrented-but-haven't-tried tier:
Waves
I guess I should also take the time to say rip anonymous.ogg's grandma and sorry that you're going through that instead of just laying into people feel being dicks about it
>>63483584
I was referring to the 2 anons that were being assholes to me you shit for brains. I appreciate the other people, but the others being mean and negative? No. Grow up and stop thinking you need to be edgy and negative to everyone. If we were talking irl, I almost about bet, you wouldn't talk the same way to me, in fear of getting a punch to face/gut. And don't even say, you would cause we all know most of us in these threads are scared little EDM kids who sit in front of their desks all day tinkering in FL and ableton trying to become the next Deadmau5
>>63483678
thank you anon
>>63483711
And thank you too.
Over the years, I've tried to find a community that, I guess remotely cares about me even maybe 1% is ok. I know a handful of people are chill with me. I've just come to the conclusion that some people are just jerks. Like the anon above you said it,"LE INTERNET IS FOR GIVING 0 FUCKS XD" I just want to ask if these people are teenagers or just really sad fucking adults in their 20s, because their life is shit, BETTER MAKE SOMEONE ELSES RIGHT?
It's whatever.
Hey prod,
I've been hearing a lot about producers having hearing loss/tinnitus which severely hinders their ability to perceive (and therefore enjoy or create) music-- i know to some extent it's inevitable, but I want to know what y'all think about it.
Am I worrying too much?
Have you had it happen to you or someone you know?
What's the best way to avoid it?
thx bruvs
how do I warp rap acappellas in Ableton? all I want to do is make fire beats but it's tough when I can't get the vocals in time
>>63483774
nice, why are you in a music production thread right now tho?
>>63483539
I find it hilarious you need advice and aren't even willing to expend the effort to research a joke project of a genre which is hilarious to begin with because of the lack of effort that goes into making it
>>63483946
Why are you?
Why is Alieno crashing FL? it use to work fine.
>>63483889
Yes and no. I think over the last 2 years of working in FL and with the headphones I have, have caused me to get tinnitus. I can't sleep with out music and I can't stand silence or my ears will ring.
I would recommend taking breaks from time to time and lowering the volume of your headphones but not your work.
>>63483946
Originally to lurk, help out with what I do know when I can. Also the community is normally pretty cool to talk to
>>63483774
>all the unconstrained butthurt
thanks for the evening entertainment m8.
for future reference we're here to talk about music production, not dead grandmothers.
>>63483993
It's not butthurt, I'm explaining something. For some reason some dumbasses like you can't seem to get the 2 separated.
>he's explaining something!
>better say he's butthurt
Thanks for being insensitive.
>>63483993
>being "entertained" by "butthurt"
You do know there's an 18+ rule, right?
>>63484021
literally no one cares, you should be banned from this website
>>63484048
I expressed my sympathy, so did some other people. You're demonstrably wrong you edgy little edgelord
>>63473806
monobass
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2013/12/20/free-mono-bass-vst/
>>63484048
>Saying I'm butthurt
>saying I wanted sympathy
>saying no one cares
>being this edgy
WOW anon, and you say I don't need to be here when almost all of us are adult? Are you REALLY this cringy IRL too?
Would there be any interest in adding a folder of Ableton Instrument racks serving useful common functions? e.g., >>63473806?
>>63481101
>>63482391
Damn, literally no one? Is trap just not anyone's cup of tea here?
>>63484150
Trap is basically dubstep that went full retard.
in all honesty you'd think 4chan would love it.
How do you guys go about working on things? I find I typically have ideas for whole songs so I end up doing that a lot. I get so excited about the new idea that in a very convoluted way, all the processes of sound design, synthesis, composition, all get tangled, and the whole project becomes very messy and manic. This tends to make actually finishing shit very hard for me. I have about a dozen "finished" projects that just need that "final touch" that I can't bring myself to actually finalize because that is such a boring process compared to rushing out an inspired idea, and tends to result in a lot of sitting and thinking and re-arranging things rather than actually making music. I also find I'll get very attached to a song or idea or element of a song and be unwilling to change it, and end up just staring at the monitor with this metaphorical elephant in the room that I know doesn't fit, but is basically my child at this point.
Given my creative process of being hit with a lot of ideas almost constantly, I've been thinking of getting all of my ideas down when they happen, then going back and trying to make something cohesive from them. Otherwise I feel like most of my production time is wasted thinking about how to change an old idea into something better rather than getting new ideas down.
I don't know; the process is fairly crazy for me, and I really want to streamline it into something less messy and Dadaist and insane. What do you guys think of this as a creative strategy, and how do you guys go about this? Work on multiple ideas at once or hyper focus one idea into perfection?
>>63484212
>How do you guys go about working on things?
I run with it.
I work on whatever sounds good to me
Everyone has a different process basically. Just runnin with it is the easiest
Do you guys ever get like music block where you can't complete anything or care enough to make a new full song?
>>63484181
I'm not referring to THAT kind of trap. I meant like trap rap.
>>63484297
good luck on that, I think it's mostly house and dub and some hiphop, then again, I've not listened to enough here
>>63484212
You probably just need to spend more time on it, I think we all do. Making music is a lot harder than anyone really expects, it seems. It's not hard to get something that sounds sort of decent, but then it becomes insanely hard to go from that to actually sounding good/professional.
i have a microkorg and when i use midi some keys always stick and stay on until i press them again. im using some usb to midi chord. is that the problem? it happens on fl and ableton so i dount its the DAW pls help
>>63471699
Can someone who does analog hardware recording help me?
I wanna know how compression works. Like can I run 4 microphones (bass/snare/overheads) for a live drumset into one stereo compressor?
>>63485453
Get another stereo compressor or record 4 tracks to daw and process them afterwords on a 100% wet send
worth the price?
Any /sound design/ here?
https://youtu.be/7tsCptf9a_I?t=20s
Anyone know a way to replicate that high frequency sine wave beep with the echo/reverb trail? It's a lot harder than it sounds.
Hey guys.
I'm working on this right now: https://clyp.it/uoozik4i
I am having a hard time deciding whether or not I should keep the intro or if I should cut it out entirely and go straight into the string sample.
What do you guys think?
>tfw anticipating a 15+ hour work day at the studio tomorrow
shits gonna suck. We got a big new control surface and a custom desk to put it on, so we have to strip down the entire control room, assemble the desk and the board, and put the entire room back together.
>>63486245
I torrent first and buy 2nd. That way I'm not getting something worthless.
>>63486389
Gimme a sec. I might be able to do it.
>>63486389
>>63486739
You talking about this?
>>63487018
Of course, forgot link.
>https://clyp.it/x10aafwv
>>63487045
yes, how exactly you achieve this? ableton's operator? max/msp?
>>63487169
I actually used Harmor. I can explain what I did but I dunno if it would translate to anything else.
>>63487238
Yeah, sure anything's helpful
>>63487271
It's just a high frequency sine with distortion bro
not that guy
>>63487271
I think the most important thing is to have an envelope on the unison thickness. I had the envelope set so that the longer the note is engaged, the thicker the unison gets. I made it to where there was no unison at all during the attack and made the unison slowly get thicker during the release, but not TOO thick. Super long release, no sustain, sharp attack, no decay. That's all I really did. And added some reverb, of course.
Note is a B.
I dunno if your synth can do all that though.
>>63487271
>>63487516
>>63487518
As the other guy said, some light distortion wouldn't hurt.
Does anyone here have that Korg 3ds synthesizer, Korg DSN-12? How do you like it?
What do I need to put all my songs on a cassette tape?
>>63487906
I love it!
I've used both the DS-10 Plus and the DSN-12, and from what I can tell, the DS-10 Plus is a lot better in terms of performance, whereas the DSN-12 is good for arrangement due to all the space they give you.
By that I mean you can't access the mixer while in song mode with the DSN-12, so if that's a problem, hunt down the DS-10 Plus. The sound generation is the same, you just get fewer effects and tracks.
Also, this guy kicks ass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Dogq8g35c
>>63481101
I'm gonna bump this bullshit one more time before the next thread.
/prod/ pls
>>63488177
well that depends, what are you looking to do?
where is the best place to get stems and acapellas? im just getting into remixing and im sick of thinking of a song I want to remix and getint [X] year old links to downloads that dont work anymore.
>>63482541
cool stuff but the sample that plays throughout makes your nice chops take a backseat and its a shame
sometimes less is more
Serum lags extremely when used in ableton live 9. I think it might be my ram, but really shouldnt be the problem since i have a lot of memory
>>63488206
I just need a second synth/instrument added in on some parts. I can't come up with one for the life of me. If you're willing to help, is there a place I can message you privately? Soundcloud maybe?
/prod/ I think I'm going deaf in my right ear.
https://clyp.it/gzh1dofm
Whenever I hear this, it sounds like it's panning hard to the left with every note, even though it's coming up monophonic in my mixer.
Anyone care to give a second opinion?
>>63481771
wat is tht sound at :22? u can make tropical house song with just tht sound on repeat and the current melody of the song.
a weirdoo like me would enjoy it.
>>63488416
uh sure hit me up at soundcloud.com/polyanthus
>>63486420
personally, id leave it in but just doesnt sound like it belongs with th rest of the song. if u get wht i mean. calm it down a bit
>>63471699
Alright /mu/
Pleas help me on this.
Basically I'm trying to create a vocal effect to make a voice sound electric. Think similiar to how they did Electro's voice in the last spiderman film.
Holy fucking shit though, I can't figure out HOW to do it. I've tried vocoders, effects, sidechains, the works, but NOTHING I do sounds even close to what I'm going for.
Does anyone, ANYONE, have any advice or tutorials or ANYTHING that can help me?
Please, I've been trying to do this for five days, and am losing my mind listening to the same audio clips.
>>63488423
>https://clyp.it/gzh1dofm
Try positioning your head somewhere different.
It sounded like it was stronger in my right ear, until I turned my head, then it sounded stronger in my left.
>>63488423
partially deaf in my right ear and ya it sounds louder in my left ear too.
maybe u are getting deaf
>>63488031
They're a bit less than 20 on amazon used, I'l definitely keep them in mind.
I was going to use the dsn 12 in a DAW by using a male to male 3.5mm and putting the end not in the 3ds in the microphone jack on my computer. Only problem is when I record there's static in the background, I don't know if it's the cord or the jack or something else.
But if it can be gotten to work well it really opens up possibilities for musicians who would like a synth but don't have a lot to spend, provided they already have a 3ds. If it can be used with a DAW or sequencer than they can get a fully featured synth for $40.
What do you guys think, could it work?
>>63488783
Sure, the noise is inescapable though as a consequence of the audio hardware on the 3DS.
It sure is a lot of power: 12 individual MS-10s with effects and a mixer. The only disadvantage is the lack of MIDI.
>>63488628
hmmm, by calm it down do you mean toning down some of the vocal chops and stuff?
I use a lot of those vocal cuts in actual melody with the strings and such, so I just made that little intro as kind of a lead in to the rest of the song, if that makes any sense.
I definitely see what you mean if you think its a little too hyperactive at the beginning though.
Dumb question.
Can you run a phono signal into two preamps at the same time?
Is $800 a good price for a moog prodigy with wonky pitch and mod wheels?
How about a yamaha s30 for 225?
I'm checking out all the synths on my local craigslist and I couldn't really find any price information on the prodigy, there were no ebay listings or anything. But from the little I did find ir doesn't seem like a good price. Couldn't find anything on the s30 either.
Alright. I posted this earlier, got some feedback, made some revisions and just now finished it.
https://clyp.it/lbgb1ocz
Thoughts?
>>63489058
Bro, in all honesty. You'd be better off buying a nice midi keyboard and using the rest of the money to get some good VSTs.
There's really no reason to own a Moog anymore.
>>63489189
>There's really no reason to own a Moog anymore
elaborate
>>63489205
There's plenty of VSTs now that can emulate perfectly well whatever you would be able to do on the Moog. Some, arguably better.
Some prefer having the physical model, others will argue that the sound just "isn't the same", but that's purely subjective.
Basically when buying a moog you have to ask yourself, "Do I really want to spend $1k on a new synth, or would I rather spend $500 on a good midi keyboard, and then the rest of the money on any number of VSTs that I can program to do whatever."
Personally speaking, I sold all my synths, switched over to a S series and never looked back.
>discovering ableton's drum rack's true potential
I was not ready for this amount of deep
>>63488922
Yeah, you're right. The 3ds sound quality is too bad to use on a legit song. Still a cool toy though.
>>63488957
nah i think the vocals are fine. i actually like the way you mix it up like that, wish i could figure out how to do it.
but yeah the beginning is just doing a little too much, the rest of the song flowed nicely though.
you probably wont be able to translate what im trying to say but at least itll give u something to think about lol
>>63489296
Pro tip man:
>open up your device list in drum rack
>right click
>you can group that shit
>drum racks, in your drum racks, in your drum racks
>shutting down my shit for the night
>for a second out of the corner of my eye i read "untitled - ableton" as "unableton"
dammit /prod/ get the fuck out of my head
>>63488314
I feel it, I wanted to use this as more or less an interlude or skit for the album. Just something different to break up the pace really. Thanks for the feedback man.
>>63489296
>>63489319
>>63489324
>tfw when you create your personal perfect template for new future projects
Literally all I did today.
>>63471699
im guessing there's no way around buying ableton.
not even a free trial somewhere?
>>63489316
I definitely get it man. Thanks for the feedback.
I'm gonna work on trying to un-clutter the intro tomorrow for sure.
As for what I did with the vocals, its really nothing special man! I took a really popular pop song that's out right now and chopped about 40-50 different tiny chunks out of it and re-arranged them by playing them out on a midi keyboard into the sequencer.
All of the instrumentation that you hear in the intro(drums, vocals, melody, etc) all come from little pieces of this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo35R9zQsAI
>>63489384
Ableton has a free trial version.
>>63489296
>>63489319
>>63489351
Let me drop some mad Ableton knowledge on y'all:
You know the instrument rack? The thing with the macros? Well open up a fresh one and click on the button that looks like a bullet point list.
You can put in AS MANY PLUG-INS, INSTRUMENTS, DRUM RACKS, and OTHER INSTRUMENT RACKS as you want into that bad boy so you can layer like a pro.
But let's go a step further: Say you have Live Intro or Lite and are limited to only 8 tracks. You can have WAY more than 8 thanks to this bad boy. Rack up a bunch of instruments, click the "Key" button, and you can set what notes are played by what instrument. This means that you can send specific MIDI data to different plugins so you can play chords with one and a lead + bass with another. Just make sure you track both in a single MIDI track.
You can even make your lead synth play down to C-2 and use the "Pitch" MIDI effect to bring it all the way up.
The possibilities are endless.
Hey /prod/ I'm having a problem with my ableton, mainly the VSTs. I recently bought Reaktor 6, but for some reason my ableton never installed a steinberg folder to store vsts. Normally I'm just using a custom folder to store vsts, but haven't had luck finding a way to get Reaktor to show up in live plug-ins, any ideas/help/suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Alieno wont stay open in FL, use to work fine, any one got any ideas?
>>63490030
Dont use FL
>>63471821
DAT SNARE
>>63483683
pretty much everything you listed is in the wrong place.
>>63483922
learn how to work those markers son
>>63488241
there are a couple of sites that advertise (and sometimes give away stuff) for remixes...
also try dj websites
and pirate bay.
>>63488647
help us help you... gib example.
None of us watch movies.
>>63471776
Guitar Rig Pro is really good for effects and messing with your synths, but it may be better to download one fx of each type (Valhalla Reverb, Izotope Trash (distortion), etc) and learn those through and through.
Sylenth1 is really basic synthesis, Flume primarily used it for his first album, unsure what he uses now.
https://clyp.it/a1ktu5tn
DnB, not sure where to go from here, also any comments would be great
>>63486245
Yeah, all Spectrasonics software is top notch. It's expensive but you get what you pay for.
>tfw south african and the op lungas keep tripping me out
I forgot where I keep my vst's
>>63492436
did you doublecheck your pockets? Even the ones on the back?
>>63471821
Not good
Remove
ju-60 when
>>63492241
good to know thanks, it's just that I already have Omnisphere and I'm curious as to whether Trilian is worth getting on top of that just for bass.
I mean Omnisphere has some bass potential in itself, but it does feel significantly lacking I guess
>>63479022
While I agree with you, I never follow your advice lol. I show everything I make at any point in the process to anyone who cares (except my actual audience, to preserve the magic). I usually have a strong idea of what needs to be done, and I'm good at dismissing other people's ideas when they don't fit. Sometimes there are some great suggestions I get though. Most people say your track is good, even if it isn't. Either to spare you, be nice to you or they just don't notice the difference. As long as you know where you want to go, it doesn't matter what they say.
best convolver plugin?
>>63494093
ur moms cavernous vag xDD
>>63494192
ledge
>>63494093
why not just use reverb idiot head
>>63471807
Get a professional MIDI keyboard and maybe a keyboardless (analog) synth like the moog minitaur
>>63479273
perfect, how long did you do it?
>>63494443
There are pros and cons to both convolution reverb and algorithmic reverb, and convolvers can be used in techniques that don't involve reverb at all.
>>63494093
>>63494566
I think the best convolver plugin is a bit subjective as they are mostly dependant on what Impulse you're using, or what samples you're using if you're using a convolver for something creative.
If you're on Logic, Space Designer is pretty good. As for external plugins, you could try Audio Ease Altiverb, but IIRC it's annoying to pirate or someting.
>>63494566
You mean like automation of certain parameters?
>>63494631
Yes, that's an advantage of algorithmic reverb.
A disadvantage of algorithmic reverb is that it generally doesn't sound as good/natural as convolution reverb.
Are the pirated versions of Ableton Live you can find on KAT or rutracker legit?
t. paranoid
>>63494650
no you will get a million viruses
t. not an ableton employee
