Will we ever see a new David Bowie (or at least a true successor to David Bowie)?
no
rock is dead
>>63449559
>David Bowie
>Rock
a trans singer will come out after she achieves worldwide acclaim as a female
>>63449559
you can kill the rockstar but rock n roll never dies baby
>>63449582
yeah he was a jazz musician
>>63449599
everything dies and we're seeing rock dying right before our eyes
>>63449544
Grimes
>>63449663
Who's Grimes?
>>63449708
ahahahah
>>63449599
Name 3 decent rock albums from this decade.
>>63449708
damn...
Bowie was a protagonist of his times, although a poor musician: to say that Bowie is a musician is like saying that Nero was a harp player (a fact that is technically true, but misleading). Bowie embodies the quintessence of artificial art, raises futulity to paradigm, focuses on the phenomenon rather than the content, makes irrelevant the relevant, and, thus, is the epitome of everything that went wrong with rock music.
Each element of his art is the emblem of a true artistic movement; however, the ensemble of those emblems constitutes no more than a puzzle, no matter how intriguing, of symbols, a roll of incoherent images projected against the wall at twice the speed, a dictionary of terms rather than a poem, and, in the best of hypotheses, a documentary of the cultural fads of his era.
>>63449811
Wondering when I'd see this pasta again after the Duke went down.
>>63449708
What did he mean by this?
Sure, there are plenty more faggots these days.
thugger is the next bowie
>>63449583
To properly match Bowie, it should be a male who first identifies as a male, then in the zeitgeist claims to identify as female, and then after a decade returns to identifying as a male and admitting they only did so as part of the style of the time.
>>63449731
toto´s XIV whatever X Japan published and the newest Iron Maiden, you can replace x japan with Miyavi if you want he´s the shit dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8nbgm-bPIU
>inb4 nice memecore fucking pleb etc
if you´re popular you suck if you´re indie nobody cares so i dont give a shit really, "haters gonna hate"
>>63449731
Protomartyr - Agent Intellect
Iggy Pop - Post Pop Depression
David Bowie - Blackstar
TWIABP - Whenever, If Ever
Druid - s/t
Zach Hill - Face Tat
Pile - Magic Isn't Real
Liturgy - The Ark Work
Incognita Sperans - s/t
from the top of my head
of Montreal
> genre hopper
> "flamboyant" but straight
> creates characters
no one can convince me oM isnt the modern DB, seriously try. go for it
>>63450585
Their music isn't especially interesting.
>>63450585
I would've posted him, but the problem with Kevin is that he's borrowing far too heavily on the past.
He's also much closer to Prince, down to the egomania and actually pretty much making all the music by himself.
>>63450585
they were better when they tried to be sgt pepper on every song and not just tumblr reincarnate
>>63450030
yes to Protomartyr, no to everything else
coming through boys
>>63450808
hahaha shit taste
>>63450649
>and not just tumblr reincarnate
The last five of Montreal albums are pretty much dedicated to Kevin hating his ex wife.
And the Georgie Fruit stage persona does not count. It's very clearly an over the top exaggeration of a transgender, and even if it was the portrayal of the character is not a positive one.
Just because its metrosexual does not make it tumblr.
>>63450863
this desu, inb4 racists and sexists disagree
>>63450808
Completely trash opinion m80
>>63450863
Pretty much if Sasha Grey was a popstar, only with worse taste.
>>63450615
Neither is bowies
>>63450923
but sasha grey IS a popstar
>>63450961
pornstar, not popstar.
>>63450030
Blackstar isn't really Rock N Roll. It's more Jazz influenced than anything.
>>63450585
agreed
>>63450585
>kevin barnes
>straight
pick one
>>63449544
>Will we ever see a new David Bowie
Trent Reznor is the closest thing we'll get to another David Bowie. He was Bowie approved.
>>63450585
Oh God please no
>>63449731
Peter Bjorn And John - Gimme Some
Field Music - Measure
Bowie - The Next Day
Easy, likely not even the best choices, just off the top of my head
>>63451087
Has Trent Reznor sold hundred millions of record, innovated in many musical genres and been a decent stage/film actor?
>>63451005
Jazz-influenced art rock is still rock. You could argue that none of those that I posted is "Rock n Roll" because that kind of music hasn't been made after the 70's aside for some really rare exceptions. Doesn't change the fact that those albums are still all rock music. I specifically even left out most of the metal albums too to avoid anyone crying over about them not being rock. (not true by the way)
>>63451074
He has (or rather, had) a wife and has a daughter.
He's said that being gay would make everything easier but he's just too straight and the most he's ever done is kiss dudes. Essentially straighter than Bowie.
Metrosexual =/= Homosexual
>>63451180
What is Bisexuality, Alex?
>>63451137
He's done some good game and movie OSTs
>>63451137
Apart from the acting thing, yes
>>63451137
>been a decent stage/film actor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM0MmNjy97s
>>63451202
He's not even bisexual.
Just a straight guy that makes out with dudes for attention.
>>63451338
>Tim I Wish You Were Born a Girl
>>63451137
Bowie has an advantage sold wise because he's shilled out a fuckton of compilations
plus not to mention tons of remasters
>>63450615
>>63451117
>>63450632
>>63450649
>>63451074
just because you dont like oM doesnt mean it isnt the best fit. their music is most similar to bowie . also bowie borrowed from the past as well. every band does it. just as i thought, not 1 single legitimate hole poked in my logic, just people that like bowie but hate oM. btw he does many more characters though the admittedly bad georgie fruit is the only one fleshed out to the extent bowie made his characters. the bedside drama was a concept album thats pretty good though. oh yea & bowie was every bit the egomaniac kevin is, anyone who disagrees must not have heard the majority of his music. i love them both though
>>63449544
He had been influencing artists for decades before he died, and was barely relevant in the 2000s and 2010s before his death. He'd been around for so long that his 'successors' have already been and gone - Prince, Michael Jackson, Robert Smith, Lady Gaga, basically any eccentric androgynous pop star.
>>63451566
i'm the last guy you replied to and om are my favorite band, chill budd-e
>>63451566
How much has oM influenced the mainstream music/art/fashion culture during their career? How far have they pushed the boundaries of music trends? Has each of their album had cutting edge production likes of never seen before?
Them playing "similar" music means literally nothing, and your post shows just how little you know about Bowie and history of popular music in general.
>>63451649
Oh and how many popular mainstream genres have they pioneered?
>>63450585
glad somebody in this thread knows whats up. om is on another level of genius. right up there with bowie imo
>>63451649
i assumed writing in similar ways & being counter culture icons to essentially the same kinds of people was what mattered. if oM was around when guitar music got radio play they would have been huge & likely toured with bowie. i think them playing similar music has everything to do with it. kevin barnes & david bowie have so much in common i cant help but smirk at your comment. anyway, we just have a different idea of what constitutes them being the same, i think their music what matters you think their popularity.... so.. we just arent goint to agree
>>63451605
you really just got tacked onto the post. just saying kevin is at least mostly straight. everything was much more for theother posts linked.
>>63451780
glad you agree. im not even saying in levels of genius or something, im just saying they have more in common than they do differences
>>63451886
If the only thing was mattered was similiar style as his then there would be an infinite amount of "next Bowie's" for the reasons I stated above. Like I said, you're extremely narrow-minded and know next to nothing about popular music and it's history.
>>63451972
> infinite next bowies
not really. i think reasonably popular, genre hopping, flamboyant stage presence possessing, character creating, front man narrows it down significantly. i agree to disagree on the criteria, you call me names. i think one of is is narrow minded and its not me.
>>63452126
>i think reasonably popular, genre hopping, flamboyant stage presence possessing, character creating, front man narrows it down significantly.
Yet again you keep proving me right. You should probably stop posting so you won't further embaress yourself.
>>63450585
came to post this
good work anon
>>63451566
I'm the guy that made the Prince comparison, I love of Montreal, I've heard all of it multiple times.
Bowie might have had an ego, but he wasn't like Kevin Barnes.
David went out of his way to collaborate with his fellows as well as people he respected, and even worked to help revive the careers of his friends.
Kevin has repeatedly simply dropped off people who were his friends because they were causing too much trouble for him and weren't jiving with what he was going for.
He is clearly much more a Prince than he is a Bowie.
>>63451137
lmao are you implying Bowie innovated in many musical genres?
>>63450030
these are all shit
>>63452344
>>63450950
this is true admit it /mu/
>>63452383
> tfw people use animefaces
>>63449544
The Closest Thing to David Bowie chart is out. Get it while is hot.
>>63452420
lol nice response
but he's right
David didn't really innovate in any genre
he just made them more popular
>>63452844
tell me a glam rock album that sounds like Ziggy, before Ziggy
tell me a soul funk album that sounds like Station to Station
tell me a new wave album that sounds like Low, before Low, and no Another Gree World doesn't sound like Low
I don't think so. Bowie came in at the beginning of mass media, and surfed it till his death. Every thing else after will be a rehashing.
>>63452577
NO.
Bowie said Madonna's music was too conventional to make an impact.
And Lady Gagag is nothing but a rip off of Madonna and Annie Lennox for the Iphone generation. Do the math
>>63452383
you are shit
>>63452968
>tell me a glam rock album that sounds like Ziggy, before Ziggy
All David did was regurgitate multiple styles into his own. He admitted that Ziggy was basically him stealing the sound of The Velvet Underground, along with some of The Rolling Stoned then essentially ripped off Legendary Stardust Cowboy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MhbCzTqFsQ
>>63452968
>tell me a new wave album that sounds like Low, before Low, and no Another Gree World doesn't sound like Low
>not knowing that Low is basically David Bowie borrowing from Neu and Kraftwerk...
and as for STS, I don't know because I don't really care for soul or funk music.
>>63451137
>bowie
>innovative
kill self
>>63452383
>anime
opinion dismissed
>>63452844
no one is inventing shit
Led Zep did Muddy waters, Beatles did Little Richards.
Is not about innovating, is about reaching out to the masses
>>63453303
no album of Neu and Kraftwerk sounds like Low, and no album of VU and RS sounds like Ziggy, that's just a fact. I'm not saying he wasnt inspired, also because he wore his influences on his sleeves. Point his no music exists in a vacuum. Neither the RS, or VU, or Neu or Kraftwerk elaboraed their sound on their own.
>>63452461
admit it
>>63453451
>no album of Neu and Kraftwerk sounds like Low, and no album of VU and RS sounds like Ziggy, that's just a fact.
No shit Sherlock, because he combined styles to achieve those sounds. To deny that is calling David a liar because he himself admitted it. Try actually watching a documentary like Five Years and see him talk about it for yourself.
And I'm not denying that David doesn't have talent. He has a talent for blinding styles and popularizing them. Even Tony Visconti has said that when David likes something, he wants to do it better than the person who did it first. Why do you think Jean Genies sounds like The Rolling Stones? Why do you think Queen Bitch sounds like a Velvet Underground track?
Th reason Bowie is legendary has a lot to do with the times he lived.
Today's generation couldnt produce a new Bowie because we live in a era where internet, tablets and smartphones get things done very quickly. Bowie's reputation started by pure word of mouth. Same as the Stones and Alice Cooper.
If Bowie came out today, he would be a youtube sensation for 15 minutes and then someone else would atke over and he would be gone and forgotten in a flash unless he resorted to be a dick like Lady Gaga and Justin Biebere have done to keep relevant
>>63449583
>>63449914
>reducing singer's artistic achievement to their sexuality
disgusting
>>63453613
What I'm trying to say is that if you put it this way not even Neu! or Kraftwerk, or Vu or RS are original as their sound is an elaboration of what came before, like every music on this planet.
Aside from the fact that athere are other artist that influenced Bowie more than Neu or Kraftwerk, like the Kinks, Mott the Hoople, Bolan, Jacques Brel, Scott Walker. Wanna know how many, even among these I just mentionedwere in turn infleunced by Bowie, well that's gonna take a while.
You're just regurgitating shit you read on Scaruffi who has a very limited cognition on how popular music works and what it should be.
>>63453708
>he would be gone and forgotten in a flash
then he'd come back with a new persona again & again
mixing pop music & light 'avant-garde'/experimental music
while introducing people to new ideas
... kinda like Björk, Bey or Kanye?
>>63453763
>You're just regurgitating shit you read on Scaruffi
Actually, I'm regurgitating what Bowie himself has said. You should calm down and stop acting like this is a personal attack.
>>63454436
also, as if this Neu album doesn't have some elements that sound like Low and Heroes with a bit of Station To Station.
>>63454495
oops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT0f1Tw3YXM
>>63454436
>>63454495
>>63454528
Dude, I said it before, I'm not negating Bowie wasn't influenced by some artists, how could I, what I'm saying is that those same artist were influenced by other music before them because nothing exists in a vacuum. NO artist is original if we go by this logic, I simply think that is the rielaboration of what comes before an artist, and said artist makes this infleunces his own it's originalty.
PS. Aside from Hero on Neu! 75 there's nothing resembling Low, and it only a passing resemblance Low sound is way more refined and more songy, while Hero is still a psychedelic Jam at it's core.
>>63453025
Isn't Lady Gaga a ripoff of Klaus Nomi?
>>63453708
>>63453016
yep. And he was good too, and he knew it. He said the whole bisexual thing got in the way with that he really wanted to do in America. That's someone that knows how good they are.
>>63454815
>bisexual thing got in the way with that he really wanted to do in America.
well no shit
look at the american cover of "The Man who sold the World"
Kendrick Lamar is about to become the David Bowie of Hip Hop. He already proved he's a good artist and that enjoys experimenting. He will take it further in the future.
