ITT: Best album in it's respective genre.
If it's a tie between two albums feel free to mention them both.
>pic related
Post-rock
>>63391641
Lift your skinny fists and spiderland are both better than that OP. I get where you're coming from though, early unpolished GSY!BE is fucking great.
>>63391641
art rock
>>63391683
Spiderland is garbage my dear /mu/drone
>>63391707
If you don't enjoy Spiderland you either just have fucking horrible taste or you don't play an instrument.
>>63391707
Objectively wrong.
>>63391741
>you just have fucking horrible taste
Typical /mu/drone response. I've been playing piano nearly all my life btw.
>>63391683
b-but spiderland isn't post rock anon
>>63391641
Nope
>TNT
>D.I. Go Pop
>Laughing Stock
Hiphop
>>63391707
>>63391766
>>63391812
Wow, didn't take long for /r/music to arrive
>>63391817
>Laughing Stock
>Post Rock
He fell for the meme, boys, he actually fell for the meme
>>63391741
>>63391683
>it's /mu/core so it must be better
Death Metal
>>63391843
>laughing stock isn't post-rock
Then what the flying fuck do you idiots over at /r/music think it is
>>63391892
>that's not an opinion I support
>he must bE FROM REDDDDDDIIIIITTTTTT
>>63391641
Best Post-Rock is Soundtracks for the Blind, followed by Upgrade and Afterlife
Plunderphonics
>>63391913
t. reddit
>>63391913
Laughing Stock is one of the albums that helped pioneering post-rock.
It's early first wave post rock
>>63391941
It's as much post rock as the Velvet Underground is punk, which is to say, it's proto, not the actual thing.
>>63391957
please explain to us in your own words what post-rock is anon, I'd love to hear you break it down
>>63391957
proto post-rock is spirit of eden. laughing stock is actual post-rock
>>63391975
crescendoes and navelgazing.
Ladies and Gentleman We're Floa, I mean, Laughing Stock has tons of navelgazing but lacks in the crescendoes department.
>>63391993
>he actually fell for the crescendos meme
>>63392014
I did not. I don't listen to post-rock.
>>63391993
why even bother having such blunt opinions if you know this little
>>63392025
Then why the fuck are you participating in a discussion about post-rock you toddler shitstain
>>63391993
is this bait or are you just genuinely this stupid
either way, stop
>>63392032
One day you'll come to accept the truth. Until then, live obliviously and enjoy these days free of cynicism.
>>63392036
I'm bored
>>63391993
Post rock doesn't have to revolve around crecendos, espicially not first-wave post rock
>>63391865
"no"
>>63391993
>he thinks post-rock has to have crescendoes
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT GYBE WHY DID YOU HAVE TO SAVE AND RUIN POST-ROCK AT THE EXACT SAME TIME
This is one of the word threads ive seen in ages
Synthwave
>>63392134
That's an odd alternative cover for TR/ST - Joyland
Where did you find it?
IDM
Post albums instead of shitposting about post rock you fucking shitheads holy fucking shit
>>63392072
Name me 5 post-rock albums that don't have crescendoes. It's okay, I'll wait
>>63391641
no way anything by that meme band is better than SFTB, The Seer or To Be Kind
>>63392190
>Listening to rape rock
shiggy diggy doo,
here's your (you),
and don't be late for school now!
>>63392186
Laughing Stock
Hex
The Stars are So Big
Homb
Millions Now Living
He Has Left Us Alone
Ocean Songs
DI Go Pop
Labradford
The For Carnation
Here's 10 instead
>>63392222
Those aren't post-rock
>>63392243
Those quads say otherwise
>>63392050
*tips fedora*
>>63392140
But anon that's the shitty kind of synthwave
Music.
>>63392222
Do you not know what a crescendo is you fucking nigger?
>>63392265
>oh shit, I'm wrong in every way
>better use the hat meme
>>63392274
Yeah, all 10 albums don't have them
I know you're b8ing but I want to see what nonsense you pull out of your ass next
>>63392295
*tips fedora*
>>63391812
Actually, it is. But only for about two thirds of the album.
>>63391892
/r/music would call anything post rock
>>63392052
That's because first wave post rock is an inconsistent term used to classify wildly different artists in the same bunch for completely arbitrary reasons.
>>63392222
Millions isn't post rock. It's krautrock revival.
Experimental hip-hop
>>63392308
>oh shit, I'm wrong in every way
>better use the hat meme
>>63392160
erratum
>>63392207
>listening to anti-western rock
don't you have Chomsky interviews to read?
Black-metal
>>63392322
It's not completely arbitrary. you cannot deny that the focus on the more atmospheric qualities of music has been consistent within first wave post rock artists
>>63392358
If you took a theoretical mathematics course you'd understand that your implication is not a natural negation and thus lacks the congruity necessary for your insult to have zest. As it stands, it's a limp accusation, lacking any verve.
![full[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/DkHB4oT.gif "full[1].gif")
folk-punk
>>63392322
>only for 2 thirds of the album
Wow, I bet you think Breadcrumb Trail and Nosferatu Man aren't post-rock. If you actually played an instrument you'd realize why they're considered post-rock.
They don't know jack shit about genres, that's why they call non-post-rock albums post-rock and post-rock albums otherwise.
It's because all those artists employ unorthodox song structures, use some sort of extended technique on guitar, and prefer texture and timbre over riffs and power chords.
It's both, it's also shit so who cares?
Also thank you for getting me into Zeuhl, avant-prog and Canterbury Scene. You're still a faggot though.
>>63392344
*tips fedora*
>>63392391
>oh shit, I'm wrong in every way
>better use the hat meme
>>63392370
It's not consistent because it excludes artists with the same intentions (genres even, like krautrock and shoegaze), therefore making it to be completely arbitrary.
And it gets even worse when people call Don Caballero post rock.
>>63392404
*tips fedora*
I don't want to have to constantly do this anon, just give up and go to bed
>>63392272
overrated
>>63392384
>tfw sleeping in the ditch tonight
one of the only really good things to come out of breakcore
>>63392391
I play an instrument, and that's ad hominem, so your first paragraph is wrong.
If those songs are post rock, then so is king crimson in larks tongues.
Agree
Yes, that's true. They all do that. But what about all the artists that do the same but aren't considered to be post rock? That's what makes the term inconsistent (among others).
How is it post rock in a way that isn't made redundant by krautrock?
Nice. Any favourites from those genres so far?
>>63392405
Would you also call the definition of post punk inconsistent?
>>63392447
Objectively wrong
>>63392423
>oh shit, I'm wrong in every way
>better use the hat meme
>>63392465
The definition? Maybe
The genre itself? No (unless it's being applied to stuff like Marquee Moon or the first half of RIL)
>>63392449
Ad hominem, big deal, I don't really care.
What? King Crimson used extended technique on guitars? You're joking right?
All right, name me a few that do fit all 3 criteria.
It uses heavy extended technique, especially with the guitars. David Pajo brought along all those natural harmonics from Slint into Tortoise.
Favorite zeuhl albums yet would be Mekanik Destructiw, Wurdah Itah, Les Morts, and Five Suns. Favorite Canterbury Scene would be Rock Bottom, You and Third. I'm still pretty entry level with RIO but I fucking love Univers Zero's Heresie and I really dug the jazz-rock parts of Henry Cow's Leg End
>>63392474
*tips fedora, sips mountain dew*
>>63391850
>everything /mu/core cant be your fav album or you are a drone
/mu/core has 2 of my fav albums but I guess I dont really enjoy them I am just a drone. Just stfu you fah
>>63392470
i like some other stuff, datach'i is really good, vsnares has some good albums, but ndad's just on another level. too much breakcore is just extremely derivative in my experience. but hey if you have some cool breakcore recs i'm interested
>>63391865
weak bait for such a strong record, mate.
breakcore
>>63392517
>oh shit, I'm wrong in every way
>better use the hat meme
>>63392640
*tips fedora, sips mountain dew*
Have we actually reached the point where people think other people enjoy Spiderland just because it's /mu/core? Who will cleanse us in these trying times?
Slowcore
This isn't debatable
>>63392336
This is also the best album of the 2010's
>>63392517
Glenn Branca used extended techniques in rock before post rock was a thing. Does that mean he's a post rock artist?
Even then, since when is extended technique a requisite for post rock? And didn't krautrock bands use extended techniques too?
Nirvana for Mice by Henry Cow is the best!
Oh, Henry Cow used extended techniques a lot during In Praise of Learning (from 1975). So, post rock started at that time with them?
>>63392694
it's all boring tripe so you win I guess
>>63392694
Possibly the worst genre ever so yeah ok
>>63392662
>oh shit, I'm wrong in every way
>better use the hat meme
And now I have to do my remote job. Hope I gave you some enjoyment
>>63392726
Alright, you win with Branca. I can't argue that.
I honestly think that Lesson No. 1 and The Ascension are the first examples of post-rock, despite technically being noise rock and no wave at the same time.
It never really was one but I consider it one of the criteria for an album to be part of the genre. It's also the reason I don't consider third wave to really be post-rock.
Oh yes that song is fantastic, especially the abrupt ending.
They did? Huh, did they focus on timbre and texture rather than melody and power chords? Obviously the power chords are practically nonexistent on that album but I do think the addition of Slapp Happy added a bit more of a melodic influence (especially on War, that crazy chromatic runup halfway through and right at the end comes to mind) to the group. I also can't really think of moments where they put really heavy emphasis on timbre and texture.
>>63392800
Yeah, those Branca recordings are the most similar to "actual" post rock before post rock was a thing.
Funny thing what you say about third wave, because it's what takes every element of post rock but without adding anything new or interesting.
The abrupt ending? That's weird, because for me it's the gradual increase of tension until it's eventual climax. Just thinking about it makes my eyes teary.
Yes, they did. Two songs from the album are exactly that. No melodies, no power chords. Just an abstract soundscape made with rock instrumentation.
The first two songs aren't post rock at all (maybe the second one at times), but did you even listen to Morning Star or Beginning? True Proto Post Rock.
>>63391641
The funny thing about post-rock is that the first two albums that supposedly established it (Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock) are better than anything that followed.
Here's some opinions:
>Tortoise is mind-numbingly dull
>Spiderland is not post-rock
>f#a# is not as good LYSF. I have no idea why this such a popular opinion. Also, GYBE is overall an underwhelming band
>Agaetis Byrjun is a masterpiece and better than anything Godspeed has ever done. Still not as good as Talk Talk's last two albums
>>63392949
Also, I forgot:
>Bark Psychosis is boring and non-dynamic compared to Talk Talk
>>63392934
Third wave completely lacks the extended technique, all they do is create poor ripoffs of LYSF, Mogwai Young Team, or both, without even giving a seconds thought into how and why GYBE or Mogwai created those albums.
You have all this fantastic soling and out of nowhere the vocals come in and it goes straight to Amygdala. Quite abrupt if you ask me.
Morning Star to me just sounds like a massive pile of sound, I can't really place any consideration to texture in there.
I think Beginning is arguable and is the most plausible candidate in this, the song does take its time in creating as many weird sounds as it can.
>>63392949
>>63392999
Here's your (You)
>>63393051
Well at least I got my (you).
I agree on your critique of 3rd wave but so does everyone else on this entire fucking board
>>63392949
>f#a# not better than lift your skinny crescendos
>math rock
>>63391915
I'd debate you on Ocean Songs being a pick.
>>63393107
That's not a fucking critique you retard.
>>63393107
There are some people (read: /r/music immigrants) that think otherwise but most people with any semblance of taste in post-rock have that opinion.
>>63393116
>crescendoes are bad
LYSF may have been a killing blow to post-rock but it was a kiss of death. It was an elegant album which unfortunately gave birth to cancer.
>>63393134
what would your choice be instead of Ocean Songs?
>>63393137
I always read it that way for some reason. I stand humbled . . . and retarded.
>>63393161
Id go with Fly Pan Am, but I'm biased as thats always been a personal favorite.
90s Alt Rock
>>63393267
no
>>63391986
Proto post-rock is rock.
>>63391928
That's not Since I Left you
>>63391683
yes
>>63391928
yes
>>63392160
id replace it with rdj album or saw 85-92
my vote for ambient
>>63393412
this. what the honest fuck is wrong with people that think Endtroducing is better?
>>63393505
they enjoy for it's increased emphasis on rhythm
although since I left you is way better
>>63392186
D.I. Go Pop
Laughing Stock
TNT
Spiderland
Soundtracks For the Blind
Those are the most famous examples
>>63393574
>Laughing Stock
Taphead
>Spiderland
For Dinner...
>>63393574
>no crescendoes
That guy is retarded but Spiderland and SFTB both are pretty heavy on crescendoes
art punk
>>63393326
someone forgot about HK Farewell existing
>>63392730
>>63392749
howcanubsowrong?
>>63393326
Congregation and Black Love are better.
>>63393574
>Soundtracks
Helpless Child
idm / ambient
this is basically even darker, more minimalistic geogaddi for more experienced listeners
>>63391707
shut the fuck up
>>63393553
>they enjoy for it's increased emphasis on rhythm
Err... no.
Endtroducing is a deeply spiritual and emotional listen. It's one of the most transcendental and immersive albums of all time. When I put it on I end up lying on my bed in my headphones just experiencing it completely until it's over. It amazes me that an album in that style can be so meaningful.
Since I Left You is a cacophonous explosion of samples which are masterfully put together but there's no substance behind it. It's upbeat and fun but that's it. I like music with depth which is why Endtroducing is superior.
>>63391828
wtf is wrog with you
>>63394111
you win worst trips get in a long time
>>63394197
lol my bad
>>63391641
Does "post-rock" include late 80s and early 90s stuff, or is it just shitty crescendocore? If it's the former, you're dead wrong.
>>63394111
>people like this are browsing /mu/ RIGHT NOW
>>63394262
>>63394197
Face it, SILY is completely empty, it's just purely technical. It's the Dream Theater of plunderphonics.
>>63394111
Eh, that's your opinion man. I always felt that while Endtroducing... put way more emphasis on the beat which I appreciated, the lengthier tracks on the album (Especially Napalm Brain/Scatter Brain) dragged down the whole experience.
On Since I Left You, despite it's lack of a deeper purpose, each sample was painstakingly chosen, and that a complete perfectionist attitude was put into making the best record they could make. Every track is essential.
>>63394312
I was joking here btw
>>63394327
That's basically what I was saying, we just prefer one over the other for those reasons. SILY is a masterpiece but Endtro is like a meditation. So because of that the lengthy tracks are my favourites.
>>63392190
>Godspeed is a meme band
>Swans is not
>>63391641
Pop
>>63394456
remember when /mu/ used to love fun.?
>>63392322
>Millions isn't post rock. It's krautrock revival.
I'm fucking sick of you guys
>>63392322
>>63394479
Tripfags love to derail any thread that mentions post-rock with this bullshit. Just don't give them attention and they'll go away.
>Progressive Rock
King Crimson – In the Court of the Crimson King
>Canterbury Scene
>Jazz-Rock
Soft Machine – Third
>Experimental Rock
>Art Rock
The Velvet Underground & Nico – self-titled
>Krautrock
Faust – self-titled
>New Age
Popol Vuh – Hosianna Mantra
>Psychedelic Rock
The Doors – self-titled
>New Wave
Talking Heads – 77
>Post-Punk
Pere Ubu – The Modern Dance
>No Wave
Glenn Branca – The Ascension
>Post-Rock
Talk Talk – Laughing Stock
>Singer-Songwriter
Bob Dylan – Blonde on Blonde
>American Primitivism
John Fahey – Fare Forward Voyagers
>Shoegaze
My Bloody Valentine – Loveless
>Alternative Rock
Pixies – Surfer Rosa
>Pop Rock
The Beatles – Abbey Road
>Blues Rock
Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band – Safe as Milk
>Hard Rock
Led Zeppelin – self-titled
>Martial Industrial
Laibach – Nova akropola
>Neofolk
Rome – Flowers From Exile
>Vaporwave
Chuck Person – Chuck Person's Eccojams Vol. 1
>Film Score
Ennio Morricone – C'era una volta il West
>>63391766
>I play an instrument so I can't have shit taste
>>63392322
Why the fuck do you have to come in and ruin every thread I post in
>>63394573
nigga no
>krautrock
neu or La Dusseldorf
>post-rock
g!ybe pre-allejuah! or seefeel
>post-punk
this heat
>shoegaze
ecstasy, nowhere or souvlaki
martial industrial hard-rock and neofolk are spot on though
>>63392694
the only thing i can think of that comes close is I Could Live In Hope by Low
>>63394622
seefeel isn't even post-rock
>>63394622
>shoegaze
>anything but loveless
objectively wrong opinion
>>63394704
have you listened to quique
they mixed electronic and ambient with post-rock
>>63394622
This Heat are great, but they're more experimental rock than post-punk
>>63394771
so did southpacific
>>63394783
i can see that
>>63394111
>>>/i dont even know where the fuck do you beling/
Prog Rock
>>63395029
>>63393469
It's a cross between this and Ravedeath for ambient I think.
>>63392361
That's not Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
silly anon
