Why are UK negros better than US negros?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3eHRrySwPo
Why do UK white people outdo the negros?
>>63347024
bar mike, name one good white rapper from uk.
>hard mode
no devlin
>>63347084
erm... fuck.
>>63347084
opening this one up to any other takers?
>>63347084
theres some good white rappers on high focus
everyone in this group is white
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPCCc1vPFFo
>>63348846
>DUDE WEED LMAO!
i personally hate high focus, lyrics about being a twat, eating pork pies and smoking bongs doesnt really cut it for me. also they all seem so angry. also leaf dog has possibly the most annoying voice in music.
i do get that people rate them, but i just dont get it.
But Future is patrician af m8.
FLUSHIN MCS DOWN THE LOO
>>63348899
no
>>63348936
But yah.
>>63348924
IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME BRING YOUR POSSE BRING YOUR CREW
>>63347024
That's not even his best album though. Original Pirate Material is
>>63347084
jehst
Dizzee Rascal is to grime what Slipknot is to metal.
Babby's first grime MC for tweens who get way to into it and think they're cool now.
MAN BAG BROWN LIKE NAILA
>>63347008
>>63349648
Boy In Da Corner is objectively the best grime album though...
>>63349648
ahahaha
>>63349721
You're delusional if you think Boy in the Corner is better than Street Crime UK.
grime is just brits trying to do trap rap
>>63349805
>Skinny Man come on Channel U
>switch to Antiques Roadshow
fuck that smack head
>>63349821
here's your (You)
>>63349832
I had never heard of this guy until about 3 days ago. He's a weird-looking motherfucker
BLOOKO BLOOKO
OH MY GWOOSH
DIDIBOKBOK
>>63349964
>DIDIBOKBOK
HAHAHAHAHA IS THIS WHAT AMERICANS ACTUALLY THINK HE SAYS
>>63348888
Nice numbers
There are some good lads on HF, edward scissortongue is good. This tune is about a space miner, which is a nice break from the "dude weed" shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb52KD6Q9_I
four owls are shite though.
>>63350087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f9NIOdiEEg
Ocean Wisdom is on HF and he's fucking good. Underrated as fuck.
I fucking hate UK hip-hop. The British accent is perfect for grime and doesn't work at all over hip-hop.
Wish people realised this. Wish actual good UK rappers would spit over grime beats. And I wish they used ACTUAL grime beats rather than the shitty trappy shit that's being passed as grime today.
>>63347084
> still sleeping on scroobius pip
>>63350255
I agree mostly but there have been some great UK hip-hop, Roots Manuva and London Possee etc.
The difference is they took hip-hop inspiration and did something original not copied American shit. When I see British rappers copying Chicago drill and talking about "opps" and "drilling" and calling themselves "150 rockblock" I cringe.
>>63350255
I thought Grime was hip hop?
>>63350403
>>63350403
You could argue that it's a subgenre of hip-hop (although there are many who will completely disagree with you), but overall it's a pretty different sound. A lot of modern grime beats are very hip-hop/trappy though with their loud bass and shit.
These are grime instrumentals.
https://youtu.be/wQlu_6Rhl9I
https://youtu.be/bU2dLHrpOlY
https://youtu.be/z0cV9p2-VOg
https://youtu.be/qHlx_duJnFY
Can you Britbongs explain the appeal of Nines to me?
He's got a lot of buzz in the UK, especially in London and shit, at the moment and I don't understand why. He's genuinely one of the most amateur sounding big name rappers around.
Apparently he's a really good lyricist or something, but I can't actually focus on his lyrics because he's such an awful rapper. I'm not even joking, he's that bad. Listen to this shit. This is very very popular in the UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIcQBFD6sb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFOFmSy04_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqtsHQQsIMc
>>63350468
it's not a subgenre of hip-hop at all, it evolved out of garage completely independent from hip-hop.
>>63350535
In London hip-hop being "real" is more important than being talented. In other words, having a reputation as a real gangster will help your career more than having rap ability. Nines is a real gang member, with a reputation built on shit from the streets. Once you have that entreé into the rap-scene you can build from there, but it's built on street cred. For an extreme example see 67, their music is awful but they are known for being real scary guys so they have lots of fans. There's plenty of unknown white guys who are very talented rappers but have no image.
Nines is in the news recently for being involved in some gang war shit when he robbed jewellery from another rapper called C-Biz, who had one of Nines' goons shot so that might be why you heard of him recently.
>>63350184
He's got a good flow but no good content.
It's the same shit "I smoke weed, I'm a great rapper, I fuck girls" etc that you've heard a million times before.
>>63350776
>In London hip-hop being "real" is more important than being talented
are bbk crew hard or nah
>>63347008
I love Grimes!
>>63351045
Grime isn't hip-hop
But I'm pretty sure they're all, aside from Drake, from a notoriously rough area of North London
>>63350776
I just don't get it. He's genuinely awful. I don't think I've ever managed to get through an entire Nines song. How people can bump his mixtapes regularly is completely crazy to me.
The sloppy flow, the boring monotone voice, the boring instrumentals, the same old fucking lyrics about selling drugs or whatever.
>>63349648
no that's Skepta
>>63351094
>Grime isn't hip-hop
looool ok bro
>>63351225
Came from garage and dancehall senpai.
Yeah maybe the modern concept of grime is very similar to hip-hop, but the genre and the sound of the genre did not originate from hip-hop.
>>63351256
>garage
what like burial? fuck off
Skepta said Konnichiwa will be finished by the end of the week.
We eatin' senpai.
>>63349721
>>63349770
You're delusional if you think Grime is good in any format other than sets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRA4cp8h9hA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9RxqXZ9bxk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPejLVODx7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXrtYj9S0sQ
>>63351225
It really isn't though, it's clearly a UKG sub-genre.
>>63351045
Not really but they are grime and not hip-hop, the grime scene has less emphasis on being "real" than the London hip-hop scene.
Skepta and JME were really from the roads, Skepta was a drug dealer/gang member (Merdian & P Town), JME was a nerd but he never claimed to be anything else and really did come from a shit estate, see Meridan Crew for their first grime crew that was much more gangster. Jammer, Frisco and Shorty were never gangsters but they don't really claim to be (Jammer is a goat face prick, total joker). Solo 45 was really a roadman who did armed robberies, just got out of jail for 10 years for attempted murder cos he tried to kill some girl who he got pregnant and didn't want to have an abortion. Maximum is a good DJ but not hard. Drake is a joker, he jumped on the BBK bandwagon to feel hard even though they were never that hard.
If you want grime crews that were real gangs, see Roadside Gs, NODB, Cold Blooded & Merdian Crew.
>>63351265
Garage is a very versatile genre, Burial is just one take on it (and is a take on it which was done better a couple of years before him anyway).
>>63351310
>Roadside Gs
R.A. is still in prison and Alan B once beat up some guy in the middle of a radio set, great crew.
>NODB
The Birmingham accent does not suit Grime at all but I still don't mind it that much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k81orh-3AiA
>>63347084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M_TBnT3FJA
Dave In Charge senpai
>>63351304
Your right but those are some shit sets, here are some good ones:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=M--g59-BsrA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEAl6sbhaxc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OCMgqBZ9UM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZhBCdsBxmM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NAnh89BiPQ
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbwUEcOXpA4
>>63351424
Don't be retarded, that Macabre Unit set is probably the best Grime set anyone has ever recorded.
The Roadside G's one is alright but I'm not a fan of Meridian Crew and I always found The Movement to be massively underwhelming. Ruff Sqwad are GOAT though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO2zvY7tRCg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7b2POsa8gQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYw2F-XG8vo
B L A C K E D
>>63351397
R.A got life under trident's expanded powers where they can give life sentences for non-murder crimes, he won't be home for a while.
He was accused of firing a mac at some rival gang members who were parked outside his house, there was no physical evidence though it was just based on witness testimony so it's kind of a dodgy case, met placed an injunction so it can't even be reported on :/
He was never caught for the shooting RSGs really did do though so maybe it balances out.
Still releases some songs from behind bars that are good though, best MC of all time imo.
Oh and look for the NODB set with DJ Big Mikee on Grime Time Pt. 3 for NODB's best set.
>>63351555
That's not even the best Macabre Unit set dummy, Six Feet Below Sound 2 shits on it.
youtube.com/watch?v=lEYliwHcuKo
youtube.com/watch?v=73yTeVhG0I8
youtube.com/watch?v=MXlt5rk8I5M
youtube.com/watch?v=IpGOT5br82w
>>63351725
R.A is mad underrated, top 10 MCs easily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozbd_t7gDbo
Shame his prison stuff is more Hip-Hop.
Tbh most of RSGs are underrated, Diggerz, Elmz, Phantom, Smiley and Alan B are all actually pretty good.
I think Crazy Titch is still probably the best living MC, and also probably the best MC still in prison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzKd8MPBRSs
>>63347008
UK blacks don't have the insane slavery-born victim complex carried by US blacks. They still carry the racism chip on their shoulder, but it's more a matter of class than the culture of "we were possessions, now we possess" in american black music.
>>63351852
That song is too sick, I think Titch has got better in prison. Even with the shooting people aside though he really was crazy though, he used to bully young kids at grime events I don't know anyone who met him with something good to say about him. Great MC though.
>>63351809
Yeah but I can't find that whole set on youtube so can't post it.
>Cemetary Warriors
Still foolishly hoping they might actually release something even though I know it won't happen. I haven't heard Killa P on anything in ages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at-rNX4zv9M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbzhEKQA3nU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfJyV0jPn64
Best grime albums / songs?
>>63347008
>saw thumbnail
>expected op to post pleb i luv u
>posts best song
good job OP.
that album is fucking great and i'm the whitest guy ever. didn't really like the stuff he did when he got big like tounge n cheek though.
>>63352001
Six Feet Below Sound 2:
mediafire com/download/wmouytmnztd/macabreunit.rar
Cemetary warriors broke up, they released a mixtape though. I used to have it, I think the first song was called "when mi rifle ah rise" if that helps you search for it.
youtube.com/watch?v=NLiiSEEyha8
youtube.com/watch?v=LufdGkul-Jw
youtube.com/watch?v=xGkVuosvN-M
eh some US sets to mix it up a little:
youtube.com/watch?v=mp0dmAXae-Q
youtube.com/watch?v=fS9Wt35YKmA
>>63352158
forget albums / songs, listen to some of the sets people have been posting that's the right format to enjoy grime.
Rocks FOE is the only good new generation grime MC by far and he'll most likely end up becoming the GOAT.
He's insane both lyrically and technically.
https://youtu.be/6JzG-g8Yrs0
Peep 16:10 when my man literally starts spitting in a different language.
Even Trim, a legend in the genre, was blown away by this kid.
Why can't you make a good grime album?
Why doesn't an actual good rapper sit down with some actual good producers and make an actual good album with some actual good concepts and lyrics and flows and shit?
And also, why do most of the grime rappers not use the beats made by the actual good grime producers? Why do they just ignore guys like Boofy and Kahn and Neek and Murlo and just stick with their glorified trap beats?
>>63352001
>>63352220
Found the Cemetery Warriors mixtape, it's called Full of Lyrics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twhRXdpXZRg
>>63352220
I already have both 6 Feet Below Sound released but thanks anyway (I think they made both available on their official soundcloud or something last year). Here's one of them on Plastician's old show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAfm4eRuQoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kxX08uqK8A
I didn't think Cemetary Warriors actually released anything. The closest thing to them guys would probably be this but it's not nearly as good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twhRXdpXZRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoZY9C0EDWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoP0YGVwlE8
I remember when Durrty Doogz used to be amazing and every new release of his ends up being hugely disappointing.
>>63352409
Durrty Goodz was one of the best. But he peaked with Axiom EP, it's one of the best grime releases but it went downhill from there. Durrty Whirl, his mix CD from the Doogz days before Jail, is great too.
Goodz going nuts on grime and hip-hop, great set:
youtube.com/watch?v=pjyVI7sf1Mk
youtube.com/watch?v=k4mDPm8_D8A
youtube.com/watch?v=TzQyQjkltL4
youtube.com/watch?v=kVrfqbZMx68
>tfw it's 2016
>tfw Chip still hasn't run out of bars
Some last sets from me:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvFpoSvXsJ8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oZFATILiD4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SphZi-hr46A
>>63352265
Shame mans ITT aren't on the FOE hype desu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIOrsJJTq_E
>>63352322
>>63352409
>Full of Lyrics
Never mind then, I never thought they were Cemetary Warriors but it is an okay mixtape.
>>63352265
There is the significantly high risk that he'll end up becoming shit for no reason at all since that seems to happen to every up and coming young Grime MC. The Square guys are still mostly okay as well.
>>63352314
Probably because it never originated as an album genre (but then did Hip-Hop either, I wouldn't be able to say either way for sure). The first few Grime LPs were basically the MC spitting over his own productions (or someone in his crew's productions) and it worked out okay but they were basically just freestyles. Other than Dizzee and Kano's debuts no one seemed to be interested in actually making an album with a concept throughout the whole thing.
>And also, why do most of the grime rappers not use the beats made by the actual good grime producers?
There's no good reason for this.
>>63352314
The culture is not focused around albums.
Grime MCs don't grow up listening to Grime in album form so they don't learn what a good album sounds like, they grow up listening to live PAs and sets and that's what they learn to do. The talent expected of a grime MC is to be able to sound good on any beat the DJ throws at you live, not meticulously plan out an album song by song.
Trying to fit grime into albums is like putting a square peg in a round hole anyway.
>>63352623
>>63352691
But hip-hop started in the same way, it's called evolution.
It's been over 10 years.
>>63352798
Albums are just a way for record labels to package and sell songs, grime started as a genre distributed for free on pirate radio stations so it's never fit into album format.
I don't see why this is a bad thing, just download your favourite artist's classic sets instead of your favourite artist's classic albums.
too much talk, not enough bangerz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G2G2AeBS80
>>63352848
Because it gets boring listening to people rapping about absolutely nothing for 40 minutes with the same flow, the same instrumentals, and absolutely no songwriting ability.
I like the instrumentals, I like the sound of the genre, it has potential, but no one is realising that potential.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkXTG-AmzEA
Post the nangest, grimiest riddims of all time.
>>63352952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc7W8Q-g9Lg
dizzee is fucking hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1gl46hh3sQ
>>63352848
>just download your favourite artist's classic sets
where? Torrent sites usually don't have this kind of thing in my experience.
>>63352924
You can say the same critcisms about bad albums, there are good and bad in either format.
>>63352924
Grime MCs don't have any song writing ability, they are all mainly just hype men.
This is probably some of the best lyricism in Grime still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiuJteASA60
>>63353015
>Grime MCs don't have any song writing ability
Then fucking learn.
>>63352997
http://grimearchive.org/
Just look at the sets posted in this thread for some good ones, there's plenty of good ones I've got from YouTube downloader as well I ain't ashamed.
>>63352997
Grimetapes (if it still exists).
That one Butterz page where Elijah or Skilliam listed their favourite sets.
Or just listen to them on youtube, the quality of the original sets are usually atrocious so it doesn't make a difference.
Only recently started getting into grime, just from randomly hearing JMEs feature on Shakka - Say Nada and thinking he had a cool voice. Listened to Dizzee Rascal before obviously cos he's pretty well known in UK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyONbqggasY
>>63353015
>>63353039
This is as dumb as people who say rap or country have no good lyricists. If you've head 3 artists sure but there are many great lyricists and many bad ones in every genre.
>>63353048
>>63353052
Thanks, but what about new stuff?
>>63353039
Is there really any incentive for them to learn better song writing though? A Grime MC can become famous for the dumbest shit like saying BANG or random chinese sounding things (or at least, this used to be the case) so why bother.
For example, this is widely considered to be one of the better old school MCs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5M0josnRBk
>>63353102
It's true though, the overwhelming vast majority of Grime MCs used to be totally shit lyricists. Devlin was basically the best for a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bx847ssn2s
There's slightly more emphasis on it in modern MCing.
>>63353112
Actually listen to them on the radio (Rinse, Kiss, 1xtra occasionally).
>>63353124
No one considers Flirta D a great lyricist; he is a rave MC, he's good for getting people hyped up in a rave. I've seen him live he was great but I'd never sit and watch youtube videos of him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlrKNWx4HKo
This is the best grime tune of 2016 so far prove me wrong.
>>63353184
Radar Radio is the best for grime atm, Mode FM is okay as well.
>>63353124
Because if you actually become a good artist rather than a gimmick you have a greater chance of longevity in the industry.
Like how Future will be gone in 2 years and Kendrick will still be standing tall.
>>63353229
That is actually banging. My pick would be this.
https://soundcloud.com/triangulum/dj-cable-ft-ghostly-in-ere-tr013
>>63351406
I went to school with this boy
>>63353253
Yet everyone has forgotten MC Hammer but Ultramagnetic MCs get praise daily.
>>63353367
You've gotta be a special kind of gimmick.
And he never had much of a career did he? He had a meme song that went viral.
I would rather be Kendrick than Silento that's for sure.
The Britbong Young Thug is better than the real Young Thug desu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jymQFl-YBpk
>>63350327
Can confirm, Pip is great.
>>63350047
sshh let him have his moment
>>63351397
>The Birmingham accent does not suit Grime at all but I still don't mind it that much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-dTi4lqMMw
>>63353353
Is he being serious or is it a joke?
>>63347084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckMvj1piK58
Grime albums might not be that special but 140 grm street and 100% publishing are great as albums.
>>63350255
Fucking this. Where the fuck is that garage sound that gave the genre personality?
>>63347008
Dizzee is the Tinie Tempah of grime
>Stormzy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQGUJK7Na4
>Bugzy Malone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7uhNjgqzlE
>Ghetts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxhUvcnBkCo
>Respect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCfCFe2c62Q
>>63356576
Garage and other local/regional sounds are disappearing as radio dies.
Now people consume music through the internet unique local scenes are dying out and everything is becoming more homogenised.
