is she right?
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is she right?
bullshit, music died in 2008
>>63267302
of course she is
this is the most widely accepted timeline of the history of music in the XXth century
and the beatles invented punk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4EVj76htYs
recorded 1970
ringo starr on blast drums
john lennon on speed guitar
>>63267302
>28 likes
I cringed harder than the darkgamer comment
>>63267373
velvet underground invented punk though
oh wait this is just b8
>>63267399
>velvet underground invented punk though
no they didnt, they may have had some aesthetic but this song literally invented punk music.
garage rock + feedback =/= punk
>>63267464
The Sonics - The Witch
The Kinks - You Really Got Me
Educate yourself, idiot.
>>63267373
>>63267399
>>63267464
>>63267541
the stooges invented punk you numbskulls
>>63267541
garage rock =/= punk
>>63267302
>Beatles invented hard rock
I doubt that, Deep Purple
>>63267587
nope they recorded the 2nd punk song in history and the literal blueprint for punk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axGsg3fPm84
recorded July 1972
You can't lie about how much of an impact The Beatles made on the music industry, but almost everything after the first statement is false. They may have contributed a lot to the genres listed, but by no means did they invent them. Especially "pop music".
She's wrong right from the getgo.
Boybands are much older than the Beatles.
>>63267607
Also The Who & Jimi Hendrix
>>63267599
Idiot.
>>63267587
>>63267627
You Really Got Me was recorded in 1964 and The Witch was recorded in 1965. Nice try though, revisionists.
>>63267627
then what is the first punk song?
>>63267373
What awful bait. The Stooges, The Velvet Underground & Nico and White Light/White Heat came out before this and are far more punk than this.
>>63267707
yeah fucking right
post songs
You're all wrong. THESE guys invented punk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDeSj2lebgY
>>63267737
You've seriously never listened to those albums? Kill yourself.
>>63267737
ignore this poster
you can add techno to the list boys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0iJbcBtR3U
>>63267756
how was that even implied
post
songs
>>63267302
Their early stuff was total garbage
>>63267684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6An7KGK6U3c
1966
>>63267737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJIqnXTqg8I
1969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeuvZOEOaGw
1968
>>63267771
aw shit good call
although as I recall wrong because there were a lot of science geek loners doing shit like 20-30 years before
How the fuck did Beatles' soft fucking fuzz invent hard rock
>>63267823
and how is this different than garage rock
I Got a Right is very clearly different and an obvious very direct link to the ramones etc.
>>63267771
b8
>>63267830
LMFAO
>>63267856
helter skelter my nigger
The Velvet Underground originated a spirit of making music (independent, nihilistic, subversive) that ten years later will be labeled "punk". Rock music as it is today was born the day the Velvet Underground entered a recording studio.
The Beatles invented actual beetles.
>>63267373
>>63267737
Shit like this is why so many people irrationally hate The Beatles. You ignorant fanboys don't know anything about music history and try to give The Beatles undue credit.
>>63267856
>questioning the one that was true
you dun goofed
>>63267908
sick copy and paste skills bro
>>63267940
cream did hard rock way before the beatles you spacker
>>63267933
People juste hate the Beatles because they don't like the band and don't understand the praise they are getting. Beatles fan as far as I know generally wont argue shit because they know of the hate they'll probably receive. They aren't much of a problem really. Of course you have those you mentionned, but they exist for every band
Remember that one time Miles Davis invented Drum and Bass 20 years early?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WenK0gPEuzI
>>63267940
>>63267959
yea Helther Skelter did more for metal than hard rock
>>63268042
Remember that one time Albert Ayler invented grindcore 20 years early?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL5UfsrCTB4
>>63267857
That yoko ono track is just a repetitive RNb rythm with screechy guitars and yelling, and I heard her call my name has much screechier guitars and even more feedback than that. That stooges one was certainly more punk related than the songs they recorded earlier, but, again, it certainly bears more of a resemblance to punk than that yoko ono track
>>63267373
What the fuck is this.
>>63268098
literally 75% beatles
yes yoko was a beatle deal with it
Beatles didn't invent shit
They digested everything good that was going around them and shat it into the pop song format
This is their only merit
>>63268123
she really wasnt and thats 50% Beatles, 60% if you counter Yoko and can do kindergarden math. also that 50% is bullshit since George and Paul definitely would had input in John's song, which this isnt even.
>>63268123
Yeah but what the fuck is that song.
>>63268164
please point to me music like Sgt Pepper that came out before, or even after at that.
>>63268098
Yoko Ono/ Plastic Ono Band (Capitol, 1970) documented, finally, her improvised vocal music. Her witchy confabulation over rock'n'roll jamming in Why is powerful and gut-wrenching, a devastating nightmare that releases the ancestral instincts and personal traumas. But the rather inept instrumental accompaniment ruins most of the atmosphere, that is supposed to be horrifying but it ends up sounding relatively harmless. Again, the instrumental backing (particularly the ridiculous drumming) spoil the magic of the ten-minute Why Not, a deadly blues for restless ghost. Her wild, distorted, suffocated shrill is a versatile instrument for free-form jamming with an emotional purpose. Disposing of the rock instruments, the beginning of Greenfield Morning is reminiscent of Grateful Dead's psychedelic experiments with distorted vocals, and then dives into hypnotic vortexes of ethnic chanting. Even more interesting is AOS, a 1968 session featuring Ornette Coleman on trumpet, Eddie Blackwell on drums and Charlie Haden on bass. Ono's languid wailing scavenges the very sparse soundscape built by the jazz musicians; then suddenly explodes in a hysterical spasm that detonates a furious free-jazz jam. The album ends with the most shocking piece, Paper Shoes, anchored to a reference frame: the sound of a train. The tribal drumming, the guitar strumming and Ono's shrieks simulate precisely that sound of the train, desu.
>>63268177
>60% if you counter Yoko and can do kindergarden math.
eh I will agree she shouldn't get equal credit but credit nonetheless
we'll split the difference and call it 65%
Beatles 2.0
>>63268178
melt-banana 20 years early
>>63268065
While this loosely follows the conventions of grindcore, Miles Davis (in conjunction with Teo Macero) directly spliced drum samples to make drum and bass centric music descended from funk but with darker undertones and more daring electronic experimentation on top. Their goal was to take the music of the time decades into the future, and they actually succeeded. It is truly the same genre 20 years too early. Their foresight is staggering.
>Nothing against the Beatles Helter Skelter but they didnt invent hard rock etc
Hendrix's Peace in Mississippi is testament to this, both were recorded in '68
Hard to find the full original online these days, this isn't the full version
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/jimi-hendrixs-blistering-peace-in-mississippi/82640453/
>>63267798
If you listened to those albums you wouldn't be arguing your retarded point
>>63267302
beatles also literally invented the rolling stones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Wanna_Be_Your_Man
>>63267302
>1969
>invented psychedelic rock
>1969
triggered
>>63267302
The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.
>>63268365
Mick Jagger recalled the song in 1968:[3]
We knew [the Beatles] by then and we were rehearsing and Andrew brought Paul and John down to the rehearsal. They said they had this tune, they were really hustlers then. I mean the way they used to hustle tunes was great: 'Hey Mick, we've got this great song.' So they played it and we thought it sounded pretty commercial, which is what we were looking for, so we did it like Elmore James or something. I haven't heard it for ages but it must be pretty freaky 'cause nobody really produced it. It was completely crackers, but it was a hit and sounded great onstage.
Bill Wyman noted how the Rolling Stones adapted the song to their style:[4]
We kind of learned it pretty quickly 'cause there wasn't that much to learn. Then Brian got his slide out, his steel (guitar) out and dadaw... dadaw... and we said, Yeah, that's better, dirty it up a bit and bash it out, and we kind of completely turned the song around and made it much more tough, Stones- and Elmore James-like.
lel
>>63268401
what gives enough credit to the guy who wrote this to be referenced/pastaed all the time?
>>63268400
Yeah lol Jimi Hendrix and The Doors are extremely well known and were doing psych rock before them...
>>63268499
they both released their first albums a year after Revolver, not saying they invented it, but that youre a retard mostly
>>63268652
the OP says they invented psychedelic rock in 1969.
Does anyone have that image of the Youtube comment that starts with the guy saying music started in 1910?
>>63268687
im not answering to the OP though am I?
>>63268701
thats funny because it obviously started in 1962
>>63268728
Guy you replied to was replying to a post that was replying to the OP. I'm not the guy you replied to.
>>63267858
>b8
it's a joke thread you idiot. hes just memeing not baiting
>>63267302
What were there 'folk rock' and 'hard rock albums'? I'm not a Beatles fag so I actually do not know. Top of my head I can't think of any folky or really heavy Beatles songs.
Pre-beatles music was significantly better. Music was mostly shit from like 63-03. I personally don't listen to any music released during that time period. 40 years of shit.
>>63267302
>1963 Beatles invented the boy band
>1932 The Ink Spots are the second boy band
>the 1950s: 100s of imitation boy bands tour the states
>>63270319
Time travel
Dumb cunt forgot that they invented classical music as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPyeqZNu_lo
>>63267627
they played it before live
i think since 1971 maybe even 1970
>>63267373
Not punk, but you could argue that it's the first track with a No Wave aesthetic. Could easily be a Contortions track.
>>63272430
and what is no wave
yeah thats what I thought
man I fucking despise beatles fanboys
>>63272930
edgy/10
>>63267302
Not at all bra. A lot of Black's invented all of that a decade before the beatles existed
>>63267302
No, she isn't.
>>63272930
I share opinions with this guy.
>>63267373
Is this English Krautrock?
>>63274190
It's Japanese
>>63269309
Answer my question from hours ago or I will literally start a new thread. You have one hour.
>>63268232
>please point to me music like Sgt Pepper that came out before
Pet Sounds
>>63274621
Are you threatening me?
>>63276235
>Are you threatening me?
>>63267943
Doesn't matter if it's pasta, it's true. The Velvet Underground invented punk.
>>63276235
If you check the catalog you'll see they actually did make another thread an hour after that post.
They also invented math rock
Unparalleled achievements if I'm honest
>>63267857
>how is this different than garage rock
How is the Yoko track different than garage rock?
>>63267373
Not even close, The Who invented punk.
>>63269718
here's your reply
>>63276272
influenced? sure.
invented? nope, not even. That'd be Ramones, or The Damned or maybe even Sex Pistols. But really it's pretty obvious punk didn't have any one inventor any more than rock and roll did - it was a scene or movement
>>63276396
>That'd be Ramones, or The Damned or maybe even Sex Pistols.
I like all of those bands but The Stooges invented punk rock. Raw Power is pure punk, no one would ever deny this if it came out in 1976 instead of 1973.
Abbey Road is the best Beatles album, prove me wrong
Pro tip: You can't but I'll respect your opinion anyway
>>63267373
Blink 182 invented punk wtf. Pic unrelated.
>>63276485
you're right about the music, but punk was always just as much about the look and lifestyle / scene as the music and the Stooges didn't have that the way the Pistols, Damned or (less so but still...) Ramones did
Beatles fanboys belong in concentration camps
>>63278388
I agree
>>63278451
Back to /pol/
>>63268400
>Abbey Road
>Psychedelic rock
>>63267302
they also invented bad music
>>63279289
>Sun King
>I Want You
>>63268065
Blast beats originated in Jazz but this only shares some characteristic with Grind.
>>63267302
>she
>>63267373
What a shit lol
>>63267752
only one that's right ITT
>>63267752
This.
Fuck the beatles
They’re an overrated group of assholes that 50+ year olds endlessly praise as the ultimate endgame of musical perfection for no goddamn reason, like they’re flawless musical geniuses when in reality they were a douchey boy band back before douchey boy bands were a thing. They were the N-Sync or Beastie Boys of their day, and their music is nowhere near the level of quality that senior citizens would have you believe.
>>63267302
I hyperventilated like an autist while I was reading that.
>>63267302
>Music died
>Shostakovich, Messiaen, Boulez were still alive
>>63267302
>Invented pop music
Kek
>>63281856
Cringe
>>63267373
This is more noise than punk desu
I still like this more than anything the Beatles ever did
>>63267373
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>>63267587
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>>63267908
>Implying The Who didn't invent punk in 1965 with "My Generation"
Bunch of fucking plebs ITT baka
>>63267302
>women
>right
come on now
