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Both are absolutely groundbreaking works of electronic music,
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Grimes bc she is epic
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>>63249819
>>63249854
rotfl
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>>63249819
toughie...but it's autechre
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>>63249819
- Troll thread detected -
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what the fuck is this thread
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Does anyone actually like Grimes, or is it just waifu faggotry? I tried listening to her and it sounds like chipmunk dubstep. And she looks like a transsexual so what's the appeal???
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>>63249819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S88Oy2FILCw
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>>63249992
Being virgin and alone.
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>>63249992
Be enveloped fby the ethereal mess, let grimes beauty take you under, sensual, erotic, fairy-like, beautiful...,like a whale under the ocean
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gr9 b9 m9
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>>63250029
>You have precisely described everything Grimes hasn't.
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8/8 b8
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>>63250045
Grimes is beauty. shes a cultural mystic
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>>63249935
No shit. I don't even see a point of comparison.

>>63249992
Yeah, I like Grimes very much. Art Angels is much more straightforward and more dance-oriented than her earlier work, but if you don't like pop or her voice you probably won't like it anyway.
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Incunabula was groundbreaking?
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>>63250103
It is obviously a troll thread indeed.
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>>63250115
No.
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>>63249992
When SCREAM came on i smashed my head into my desk until pieces of skull would wound my own brain and then I realized Art Angels is a real good one and i like it a lot.
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>electronic
>music

pick one
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>>63250115
>>63250140
It was one of the first albums which shaped the definition of the IDM genre, so yes plebs.
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>>63250143
I kinda like scream desu
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>>63249992
Visions and pre-Visions stuff is all bretty good, listen to them regularly

She went off the fucking deep end with Art Angels though, she's trying way too hard to go mainstream pop when she should have just stuck with the whole "ethereal Canadian" shtick she had going on
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>>63250218
I love scream i want a whole album like it
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>>63250155
both
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>>63249819
they're both great albums, but i'd pick art angels because it's more fun
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>>63249992
I like her and her music
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>>63250225
you wanted her to stay thew same and not change her style. good thing she evolved as an artist.
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I bet no one of the grimesfags have ever listened to something by Autechre, due to the fact that they're way far from their cerebral abilities to comprehend.
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>>63250143
>>63250251
>>63250218
But did you listen to the instrumental version? http://picosong.com/hvFZ

Better than the album version.
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>>63249819
Stop the trolling, thanks.
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>>63249819
autechre is fedora elevator music
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So many ignorant pleb kids in this thread
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>>63250328
heard both love both
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>>63249819
Grimes is like the shit that comes out of Rob Brown when he goes to the toilet, and it's kinda a compliment eh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USsvC9bx9fE
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autechre have no bangers
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>>63250328
grimes is a fan of idm (aphex twin) and she incorporated these influences in her music.

pay attention to the instrumentals:
- doctrine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR8daVXq62I
- circumambient (instrumental): http://picosong.com/A49c
- circumambient (album version): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oqxz6hpGbs

the influence is obvious.
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>>63250297
But mostly I like her
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>>63250318
you missed a d at the front of your evolved there buddy
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>>63250405
Do you realize that they were doing all this in analog?
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>>63250448
So she is hipster idm. okay.
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Lol what even is the discussion here
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>>63250513
hipster or not, shes like this genre. and many other genres.
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>>63250608
You're your own genre of dumb.
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>>63250625
no. it's you. let me guess: autechre fanboy?
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>>63250646
Nope. Buzz Lightyear.
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just sayin': autechre fanboys stop being triggered: grimes is a fan of idm and she used idm elements in her music. she's cooler than u.
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>>63250727
The truth hurts.
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>>63249819

I like these albums but neither is groundbreaking in any way.
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>>63250448
lol how do you even know this
who the fuck listens to both grimes and autechre ahaha
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>>63250807
Save for realiti demo imo
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>>63249992
i love you. you are now the unofficial helper of /mu/. fuck montie
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>>63250363
>>63250384
>posting the words pleb and fedora at 8:01 and 8:02
fucking fedora wearing plebs. true patricians wait for 8:51
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Stop replying here you idiots, it's obviously a troll thread.
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>tfw saw Grimes live
>tfw last song is Kill V. Maim and it's absolutely fucking insane


Goddamn I wish I could do it all again
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>>63250895
fans of good electronic music fans. grimes instrumentals have an idm-ish quality about them. one more example: 'be a body' instrumental sounds like a fucking idm track: http://picosong.com/A4Xr

i'm not joking, just listen to this.

btw, any grimes fan could enjoy autechre's first 2 albums because these albums have plenty of great melodies.
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>>63251299
i'm saying it again: that instrumental track sounds like early autechre!
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>>63250448
you know Cursor Miner anon?

he kinda did the whole pop music + idm thing back in 2001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv3JpewAN_s
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>>63251299
Fucking hell, this actually sounds a lot like Basscadet.
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>>63251382
op missed the opportunity: visions would be a better choice than art angels.
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>>63251376
You could even argue Aphex Twin himself did the same thing five years earlier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqTKOq8DmWU
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>>63250211
not true by the way
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>>63251376
never heard of them/him. i listened to that track: pretty interesting. the vocals sound like devo or john foxx.
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>>63251598
his track on The Death of Cool compilation (what made me discover him initially) made me think it was a Beck alias at first lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrblK623oGQ
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>>63251702
thanks. i'll check more of his music.
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>>63249819
>Grimes
>groundbreaking

>>63249992
Sexually-frustrated NEETs think that if they collect enough pics of her scrawny ass on their hard drive they get to make a wish to Shenron or some shit
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>>63251758
No im romantically-frustrated NEET. Shenrons got my back.
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i know this is bait but this is bait that gets my blood boiling
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>>63251758
>Grimes
>groundbreaking
grimes is groundbreaking in this way: she made this weird mix of cocteau twins-like vocals dreampop with eccentric idm-influenced synthpop. what bigger proof do you want that there are zero artists truly similar to her?
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>>63251758
This is a great comment
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but would you "fuck" autechre?
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>>63252003
Just because she's the only one doing it that doesn't make her groundbreaking. Any fucker can combine elements of music and then breathe their dairy smelling lisps onto it.
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>>63251562
It is so my little man, Ae, Aphex Twin, Squarepusher and Muziq are the big four of IDM. But none of them were doing what Autechre have been doing already around 1990 and 1993.
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>>63252052
Yes.
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>>63252003
Unique sound does not always mean "groundbreaking", although the terms get inter-changed quite often.

I can get some pots and pans and bang on them, then mix the recording of that with a heavily-distorted monologue from a movie made when Czechoslovakia was still a thing. And then just throw the whole thing into Frooty Loops for some cheap synth leads.

Is that unique? Yeah of course. Groundbreaking? Probably not.
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>>63252078
>Just because she's the only one doing it that doesn't make her groundbreaking.
this is exactly the definition of groundbreaking. breaking new grounds, being the first. even you admited she's the only one. hence, grimes is groundbreaking.

>Any fucker can combine elements of music and then breathe their dairy smelling lisps onto it.
your hate is showing. sure, any fucker can do that after she broke new grounds. everything is easier after someone else did it first.
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>>63252143
what do you mean by groundbreaking then, if being first doing something unique isn't an acceptable definition?
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>>63252111
you clearly dont know much about that idem thing m8, and a lot of them were already doing things before ae
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>>63250029
Just listen to Cocteau Twins.
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>>63250211

its basically just detroit techno m8
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>>63252163
I didn't say unique sound doesn't equate to groundbreaking, but sometimes it doesn't.

Groundbreaking, to me, means that it's unique AND is something more than the derivative of influences. Example: Purity Ring is NOT groundbreaking - they just combined airy female vocals with electronic/synth/trap-styled instrumentals. Conversely, I see Aphex Twin's early releases as groundbreaking because they weren't just a composite of two or more very obvious styles/choices.
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Can't stop laughing over people trying to argue how Grimes should be groundbreaking, and at the same time it makes feel sad. This meme is really gone too far people, literally things like these make you realize how you are wasting time while you're on this board.
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>>63252378
Grimes is talented and groundbreaking for real. Shame that you're blinded by hate.
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>>63252208
I do m8. Detroit techno was just a conceptual starting point, and it hasn't developed in what IDM has been able to commutate in the language of the genre through the years. Also Autechre began making music in 1987, when they released Tri Repetae in 1995 they were already owner of their own musical language, probably like no others at that time.
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>>63250029
sounds exciting!
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>>63252346
it's a more elaborated and textured record than the whole detroit techno movement of that time basically
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>>63253134

no not really
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>>63253220
GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES THEN?
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>>63252926
i love ae just as much as the next guy, but its just not true that theyre the first fully fleshed out idem artist, and incunabula is not groundbreaking at all, id say its one of the weakest ae release,it just followed the trends around that time
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>>63252365
>Groundbreaking, to me, means that it's unique AND is something more than the derivative of influences.
you could say the same thing about grimes. her influences aren't copy-pasted, they're part of her musical dna. her music is seamless, it doesn't sound forced. that's a good sign.
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wasn't lego feet the first idem record?
91?

maybe there was something before it

that plaid album with all the breakbeats
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>>63253717
plaid/black dog are the first idmers yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeI795fVoqE
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>>63253776
yeah fucking 89, jesus

plaid win everybody, you can go home now
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Yall took the b8
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>>63253717
1980, if you REALLY want to go far back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arrDJNxoM9Y
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>>63253892
dude that's so not fair lol

i mean fuck we might as well just post stocky and be done with it

until some moron posts russolo
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>>63253267
The real trends of that time were house and hip-hop more than techno. In Manchester there were a club culture (more important than the Detroit one probably) capable to propose a new line of artists incorporating new styles and influences, Ae were part of that culture man.

>>63253776
This is acid techno buddies, not IDM.

IDM was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtJdd2LKc6U
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>>63253892
>>63253717
1979

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDluEia22oA
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>>63253955
but this is hip hop
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>>63253982
*jungle
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>>63253955
1957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVl2_MSwmSA
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>>63254005
having a hard time dancing to this tbqhfam
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>>63254035
try this m9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szE5D-dPs_Y
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>>63254043
sounds like afex
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>>63253953
Hm I cannot disagree with that, crystel is one those tracks Ae said they didn't released until the Artifical Intelligence compilation in 1992, it probably may be one of the first idm tracks indeed.
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>>63254062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh1iYxjNhwE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iFvbn8giOA
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>>63254144
post more m8, these are great
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>>63254144
Man, and all that time I was thinking Aphex invented IDM...
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>>63254215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrOXbTukvUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EWybkRHzFU
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>>63254144
Honestly it seems like they applied a filter to make sound these track more older than they actually are, smart indeed.
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>>63254144
have you got like a folder of old things that sound a bit like afx
good picks tho
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>>63254144
Wow, that second track sounds a lot like Aphex. It even has those weird string-like sounds that showed up on SAW II.
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>>63254270
also this idioteque-esque joy division track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J--HNoXOECg

>>63254279
nah I'm posting stuff from memory
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>>63254270
Still techno m8.
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>>63249819
haven't listened to the left one, but gonna have to go with that given the competition
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>>63254337
>implying idem isn't techno
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>>63254326
that was a warsaw track
that bourbonese qualk, i used to see that name i thought it would be like a shit indie band, good track i'll be following all these up
good taste m9
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>>63254387
the bourbonese qualk track is actually by hartmann, from a split b/w bourbonese qualk and hartmann

outside of the track I posted there's also another track that is similar to early aphex, the rest is fairly standard industrial
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>>63254461
fuuuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F9NYE7Sc0g
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>>63254365
IDM is now a genre of its own, techno is the basic point.
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>>63254556
eh is it really a genre tho? boc and squarepusher? how does it work
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>>63254527
yep that's the one
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>>63254556

Well not really, like >>63254569 points out IDM includes both lush downtempo stuff like BoC and spastic drill n bass like Squarepusher. In the end it's just a bullshit term invented by music journalists to describe dance-music inspired stuff that doesn't really work on the dance-floor. Like electronica.
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>>63254768
some idem works on the dancefloor but not much is made for the dancefloor
that's more a cultural thing than a musical thing

i think most idem artists aren't making genre music really, some flirt with genres more than others but you don't get like 20 dudes all wearing the same gear all doing the same kinds of beats

well that happened in the usa for a bit but that's the usa

in the uk everything is all mixed up, no one cares about genres, none of the good artists even know what genre they are doing
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>>63254943
>some idem works on the dancefloor but not much is made for the dancefloor

Well that was the point, for example music like Squarepusher is inspired by jungle but not really intended to be listened to in the same setting as jungle

But I do agree with your sentiment
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>>63255023
his gigs were always mental though
but yeah student crowd not so many d&b dudes
a few tho, you know
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