How come Bob Dylan's so underrated on this board?
All threads about him die.
Will we just have to wait until he's dead before you all pretend to love him?
all threads die in the end
>Will we just have to wait until he's dead before you all pretend to love him?
For that he should have died a while ago before he went shit.
>>63249548
Yeah but Dylan threads get about 10-20 replies then they die
>>63249550
I saw him last summer.
I was heartbreaking.
>>63249681
why did you break heart anoj
>>63249530
I've honestly given him a solid chance, listened to a number of his albums and songs. Just doesn't click for me. Not really a fan. I didn't even really like his most famously accessible song Rolling Stone or whatever. Can you explain what I'm missing here?
>>63249550
didnt seem to work like this with bowie, he went to shit and died like 15 years later and everybody pretended to love him anyway
>>63249717
He's probably the most hard to get into huge musician. The thing to focus on is the atmosphere of his songs and the lyrics. Listen to Visions of Johanna and Deselation Row a few times.
>>63249744
Ill give it another go round
I will never pretend to love him, because i never did. I respect him as an artist and respect people who like his work, but his voice sounds so damn awful to me argh. Maybe when he dies i give him another shot.
>>63249951
The voice was entirely intentional. Listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww1gt6MHJRA
prefer Lou Reed
OP that's a picture of Phil Spector
>>63249530
It's music for old people. You don't see huge buddy holly and big bopper threads either, how often do you want us to discuss music from 40+ years ago?
Go listen to something new you old bitch.
Blonde on Blonde is objectively better than Highway 61
Prove me wrong
Actually Dylan threads used to get trolled until about 2 years ago when I threatened to screenshot every shitty Dylan thread and spam the images across the internet the day he died and expose the board for what it really is, a virtual daycare.
>>63250069
No, I totally agree. Highway 61 Revisited is too samey after a while. I honestly think it's his second worst of the 60s.
>>63250059
There's a Beatles thread with 100+ posts in the catalog right now, David Bowie threads even before he died usually hit the 50s.
>>63250126
The Beatles thread is the same six guys posting over and over again. Bowie is all reddit-tourist posters.
>>63250163
Thing at the top says there's over 40 users in the thread.
>>63250219
I change my IP in my router settings all the time to shit up threads or skip being banned, stop being so gullible
Adam Sandler > Bob Dylan
Why don't we have more Chuck Berry threads??????
>>63250257
>not Jerry Seinfeld
pleb goy detected
>>63250289
You don't hear people still singing Chuck Berry songs on the street.
>>63250316
But he's still influential in music,Rock 'n' Roll more specifically
>>63250316
You hear people sing johnny b goode just as often as like a rolling stone and both are just as influential to rock music and pop culture.
What streets are you walking down with people singing constantly singing bob dylan?
>>63250441
Oakland, San Fran and Berkeley. See buskers everyday, have not once heard a Chuck Berry cover.
>>63250500
Instead of making threads here just go talk with them about bob dylan
>>63250531
Not the OP, so there's obviously more than a few folks interested in Dylan.
overrated
pic related 10x better than bob dylan ever was
>>63250500
>>63250531
In San Antonio,Chuck Berry is as popular as Kanye West.
In most irish pubs i visit,they're play Johnny B. Goode or Too Much Monkey Business on the piano.
Chuck Berry's rock lives on man
>>63250558
you, OP, and the hipster doofuses you watch play bob dylan songs should go start a subreddit, maybe. just an idea.
>>63250590
You're not funny and you're not being an affective troll.
Pro-tip: Do what you say you do here >>63250239 and make it so the usercount doesn't stay the same for most of the thread.
>>63250614
how is this post, >>63250590 trolling? You're than in denial that people still occasionally play chuck berry songs that someone saying they've heard it is somehow "trolling" you? Are you 12?
>>63250059
Jesus, how fucking stupid can you be? If you don't listen to something simply because it's old or new then you should be executed.
>>63250731
>missing the point general
>>63250728
>still occasionally play chuck berry songs
>is as popular as Kanye West.
Those are two contradictory statements. Stronger is still played on the radio all the time.
>>63249530
i promise all of you i will continue hating him passed his death. also I'm a faggy tripfag guess which one.....thanks lori.
FUCK BOB DYLAN
>>63250731
>being this retarded
>>63249760
don't. he's all ways been trash. entry level folk. he's a fucking joke. everyone here who says they like him is just lying to fit in. don't listen friend.
>>63250910
>Bob Dylan
>folk
>being this retarded
>>63250048
ok.
>>63250059
truth my nigga. also Beatles and Bowie are infinitely better.
>>63250938
>doesn't know what music is
>pretending to be a Dylan fan on an anonymous board
>being This retarded
Bob Dylan is sort of like the Beatles here. The contrarians have to dislike him to prove how "patrician" they are.
Also, Dylan hasn't released anything worthwhile in like 20 years, and his last classic album was Desire in 1976. But the last two bootleg series were fucking great.
>>63251112
Love and Theft is better than Desire and it came out in 2001. You're out of your element here, buddy.
cause hes shit
>Will we just have to wait until he's dead before you all pretend to love him?
Yup
>>63251112
Tempest was legit good. I don't like Together Through Life or Modern Times but Tempest is a blast.
>>63251135
I like Love & Theft but Desire fucking blows it out of the water. Hell, Street Legal and Oh Mercy are better than anything Dylan did post 90s. But, ya know, this is just my opinion man.
>>63251293
Yeah, Temptest is alright, I'm just saying the average person probably doesn't give a fuck about Dylan past Blood on the Tracks. Maybe "anything worthwhile" was the wrong term.
Yea it sucks. But I'm a huge Dylan fan and will be, he hasn't lost his step and he is still making great music. Also I've always found something great about his voice
it's a fact that when he dies we'll have 5 simultaneous threads praising his genius for weeks
>>63249733
But Blackmeme was great anon
>>63250590 here,
>>63250780
It was a metaphor,i didn't mean it literally.
>>63250728
This.
>>63251972
Chuck Berry is nowhere near as relevant as Dylan still is. Dylan STILL gets cover albums devoted to his songs on a yearly basis. Berry has a handful of songs that are even still in the public conscious.
>>63250126
Because David Bowie made class music right up to his death
>>63252106
His 80s and 90s discography (for the most part) are at odds with that statement.
>>63252099
They're both influential.
Though Chuck Berry defined a whole music genre.
>>63252217
Chuck Berry's first hit single came out in 1956. Little Richard's in 1955.
>>63252284
The rock critic Robert Christgau considers him "the greatest of the rock and rollers,"[67] while John Lennon said, "if you tried to give rock and roll another name, you might call it 'Chuck Berry'."[68] Ted Nugent said "If you don't know every Chuck Berry lick, you can't play rock guitar."[69]
Berry is included in several Rolling Stone "Greatest of All Time" lists. In September 2003, the magazine named him number 6 in their list of the "100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time".[75] This was followed in November of the same year by his compilation album The Great Twenty-Eight being ranked 21st in the Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time.[76] The following year, in March 2004, Berry was ranked fifth out of "The Immortals – The 100 Greatest Artists of All Time".[6][77] In December 2004, six of his songs were included in the "Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time", namely "Johnny B. Goode" (#7), "Maybellene" (#18), "Roll Over Beethoven" (#97), "Rock and Roll Music" (#128), "Sweet Little Sixteen" (#272) and "Brown Eyed Handsome Man" (#374).[78] In June 2008, his song "Johnny B. Goode" ranked first place in the "100 Greatest Guitar Songs of All Time".[79]
>not influential
You were saying?
>>63252284
Continued from >>63252341
"With songs such as "Maybellene" (1955), "Roll Over Beethoven" (1956), "Rock and Roll Music" (1957) and "Johnny B. Goode" (1958), Berry refined and developed rhythm and blues into the major elements that made rock and roll distinctive, with lyrics successfully aimed to appeal to the early teenage market by using graphic and humorous descriptions of teen dances, fast cars, high-school life, and consumer culture,[2] and utilizing guitar solos and showmanship that would be a major influence on subsequent rock music."
"His records are a rich storehouse of the essential lyrical, showmanship and musical components of rock and roll; and, in addition to the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, a large number of significant popular-music performers have recorded Berry's songs."
>>63252341
Quote the exact post where I said Berry wasn't influential. I was taking note of the fact that Berry was not - by any means - the first to use/define the style. Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats and Bill Haley had already had their own rock and roll minor hits by 1951 - oddly enough, with the same song:
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/single/jackie_brenston_and_his_delta_cats/rocket_88___come_back_where_you_belong/
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/single/bill_haley_and_the_saddlemen/rocket_88___tearstains_on_my_heart/
And influence has nothing to do with relevancy. Tell me that last single by Berry after My Ding-A-Ling you remember.
>>63250910
This is not true
>Because the development of rock and roll was an evolutionary process, no single record can be identified as unambiguously "the first" rock and roll record.[33] Contenders for the title of "first rock and roll record" include Sister Rosetta Tharpe's "Strange Things Happening Everyday" (1944);[34] Goree Carter's "Rock Awhile" (1949);[35] Jimmy Preston's "Rock the Joint" (1949), which was later covered by Bill Haley & His Comets in 1952;[36] "Rocket 88" by Jackie Brenston and his Delta Cats (Ike Turner and his band The Kings of Rhythm), recorded by Sam Phillips for Sun Records in March 1951.[37] In terms of its wide cultural impact across society in the US and elsewhere, Bill Haley's "Rock Around the Clock",[38] recorded in April 1954 but not a commercial success until the following year, is generally recognized as an important milestone, but it was preceded by many recordings from earlier decades in which elements of rock and roll can be clearly discerned.[33][39][40]
>>63251112
have you heard Tempest? It's a pretty solid album. His voice can be grating at times, but the sound and lyrics are top quality.
>>63252509
Rock It!
Bob Dylan will never be a influential or remembered like Chuck Berry.
In 40 years,Bob Dylan will have been forgotten (And Dead) While Chuck Berry will still be Relevant
(And Dead)
>>63252792
Thats retarded. Chuck Berry literally played nothing but useless bubblegum music, Bob Dylan made rock and roll music an art form. Learn about music before you say some dumb shit.
>>63252792
Everyone from Public Enemy to Buck Owens to The Velvet Underground to Kesha has cited Dylan as an influence. Berry's influence is basically locked up with silent generation/baby boomers.
Honestly, for someone whose best stuff came out like > 35 years ago, he's discussed way more on here than some other artists.
And yes I know he's made some good stuff i the last 20 years or so, so inb4 Jokerman and Mississippi and all that great shit
>>63250059
Jesus Christ go back to your Odd Future Kendrick Lamar shit you absolute bastard
>>63250069
I can't prove what ain't a fact but I disagree, friendo. Both are wonderful but Blonde on Blonde has a few forgetable songs while Highway 61 is entirely remarkable, every single fucking song.
>>63252792
You are fucking high my man.
>>63252792
>Artist A will be revered because he's "influential", but Artist B, who received that influence and contributed to refine it into better, deeper art, will be forgotten.
Get the fuck outta here, no one even listens to Chuck Berry anymore unless they have a niche interest in the genre or are trying to understand the roots of rock. In 40 years he will be about as popular as Django Reinhardt, if he's not already there.
>>63254995
this
>>63252128
>His 80s and 90s discography (for the most part) are at odds with that statement.
bowies only bad period was the mid eighties other than that he was great
Chuck Berry is granddad rock tho.
>>63250580
Zandt>Dylan every day of the week
>listening to the audial jew
Ami the only one who prefers Huey Lewis
of Dylan?
>>63249530
OP, read through this thread a few times. That's why we don't talk about Bob Dylan here. The threads almost always turn to shit.
>>63257105
>The threads almost always turn to shit.
All threads almost always turn to shit
>>63249530
>How come Bob Dylan's so underrated on this board?
Implying Bruce isn't better and still even less appreciated around here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyqFL9m2odg
bob dylan rekts mike love at the rock and roll hall of fame.
>>63256064
um, no ????? ? ???? ?? ???
>>63257537
classic.
suddenly i remember why i hate the guy.
>>63249530
hell be fine
I am bob dylan
I'd never listen to someone named Zimmerman
>>63258344
dubs confirm
>>63249548
deep
>>63252792
Hahahaha you have zero awareness of Dylan's importance, not only in rock music but in music and culture as a whole my good chum!
Fuck what everyone thinks I like Bob Dylan's Gospel era
>>63249717
his voice is pretty forced but his songs are well written for sure
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-perversions-of-chuck-berry-876109-v20n9
I've tried to make threads and shit on him too. Easily top 5 musician of all time. Nothing compares to the sound he creates and his lyrics are not able to be replicated. I'm honestly happy to be alive at the same time as him.
Pls meme magic...
>>63249548
This made my day. Thank you.
He's the poor man's woody guthrie
>>63252792
Bra he's literally one of the very few rock artists that probably won't be forgotten.
>>63249681
Saw him a few years ago at Seattle's Bumbershoot...
...rough.
