This is not a bait thread
what's up with rap? how can you enjoy it?
You have lyrics that alone are not good enough
to be called poetry, you have beats that alone
are not good enough to be called music
so "oh shit if i put them togethere it like
1+1=2 so it's better", but no it is 0+0 and it's
still zero so what's up with rap?
(I enjoy beefheart shostakovich dylan, and Shakespeare and Dante)
>>63186053
>this is not a bait thread
yes it is.
i'm just sitting here wondering if you deliberately wrote that out so in such a way that it reads like a poem
or if it's like fate or some shit
>>63186116
It's fate, because I like poems perhaps
>>63186084
I swear it isn't, i said so because even tough I don't come here often I know there are many bait threads on the merits of rap
>>63186053
There's actually some really good rap these days. You're forgetting the fact that every genre has shitty music.
>>63186150
We probably have a different conception of "good" but maybe not, what are you reffering to?
>>63186126
nice
do you mind if i copy it and use it as lyrics for this rap song i'm working on
the thought of the delicious irony of doing such a thing is arousing me
>>63186190
alright but please credit me as scaramellac
Rap can have good Rhythm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiBLgEx6svA
>>63186053
Not finding a joke funny doesn't make it a bad joke. It's not your sense of humour. (because you're gay)
>>63186053
>This is not a bait thread
>I enjoy beefheart shostakovich dylan, and Shakespeare and Dante
die soon
I like rap because of the flow. Future and Young Thug are musical geniuses. DS2 and Barter 6 where some of the best albums of 2015.
>>63186053
Fuck off back to /pol/, racists like you are not welcome on a leftist board like /mu/.
>(I enjoy (dead white man) (dead white man) (dead white man), and (dead white man) and (dead white man))
Yup, not racist at all.
>>63186314
>all these people replying sincerely to such obvious bait
disgraceful.
>>63186084
>>63186314
>>63186370
Go choke on a black dick you fucking cuckolds
>>63186345
Dylan's not dead yet lol. What's funny is Dylan's music is the epitome of fits the description
>lyrics that are subpoetic
>music that is unremarkable without lyrics
>>63186300
music as comedy are arts that you appreciate and understand more the smarter and more knowledgeable you are you sophistic idiot
>>63186314
I said the name of 2 musician, a poet musician, and the 2 centers of the western canon to make you understand that I do enjoy the best there is
>>63186345
I mean that's a bait but if it isn't pointing out the races of those people is racist, if I said the name of someone black just to assure cultural difference i'd be racist as you
>>63186370
I swear it is not I really don't get rap, of course this will make people angry but it doesn't mean is a bait
>>63186396
what the fuck are you even talking about? everyone who likes rap is a cuckold? do you also think everyone who listens to metal is a neo nazi? kill yourself my man.
>>63186399
I don't think so, Dylan in is lyrics gives very suggestive images, and I like the music too, in this case it is 1+1=2 , they complete each other, surely is not dante or Milton or whatever but it's ok, also it's good enough for Scaruffi 8, even tough saying that will make you think i don't think with my head.
>>63186455
so in other words "it's the exact same thing but I have a different opinion about each artist/genre".
Look I like Dylan too but this guy >>63186399 is right.
>>63186053
White guilt
>>63186396
>Everyone is a cuck but me that's why I'm obsessed with the term and the fetish.
![1457386402439[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/IucsqeI.jpg "1457386402439[1].png")
>>63186454
>everyone who likes rap is a cuckold?
Exactly, white guilt is the only reason cuckolds like you pretend to like nigger music
>>63186526
>getting this butthurt over the term cuck
Found the cuck
>>63186525
>Muh white guilt
I'm getting tired of this meme.
>>63186550
holy shit fuck off to >>>/pol/ or any other board really, no one wants you here
go jerk off to some video game and anime soundtracks
>>63186551
Nothing "meme" about whites abandoning their own cultures
>>63186551
>EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE IS A MEME
Kill yourself you fucking meme
>>63186454
no, but everyone who likes rap either doesn't take music seriously or is a teenager/nu-male
>>63186566
/pol/ is a board of peace. It's 2016, there's no place in this world for /pol/ophobes like you.
Good cancer containment thread. Thanks OP!
>>63186587
you know you can like more than one type of music right
>>63186550
Actually if the first person to bring up "XD cucke" is usually a cuck so idgaf.
it’s handy though because it confirms all sorts of wild intersectional stuff that too many people dismiss as academic psychobabble
like you don’t have to break down the nexus between sexual insecurity and reactionary politics or the interchangeable metaphors of sexual conquest and actual colonialism because these dudes are literally laying it right out on the table for you, just straight up saying “I actively associate my diminishing political privilege with my sexual humiliation”
>>63186575
Lol why be so concerned with what others do or choose with their lives?
Sounds like autism.
>>63186577
After you my friend.
>>63186607
people are going to mock this post or say it's bait cuz of all the 3+ syllable words, but it's actually spot on. Nice 1
>>63186575
I am white and don't identify with black culture at all but I like the sound of rap
>>63186500
It's not about opinion, I like him and I am someone who like what critics have recognized as the best of music and of poetry, Art is evaluated in comparision to what is considered the the best of art, not with opinions, what do guys that like rap consider the best of music?
>>63186633
Being concerned about white culture devolving into anti-intellectual posturing makes me autistic?
>>63186607
>>63186673
t. armchair psychologist
People who find it weird when white people like rap are a special kind of stupid.
Do you have to be a misanthrope to like black metal? Do you have to be a candy raver to like techno? Do you have to (stereotypical worldview/behavior associated with a genre) to like (the genre)?
The minimum posting age should be 21+ ... these high schoolers and college freshmen are fucking excruciating
>>63186731
Actually what is "white culture"? You're autistic if you think all white people's cultures are homogenous.
>Everything needs to be intellektshual
And culture does not "devolve" as it adapts to current circumstances and events.
>armchair psychologist
>I didn't read what you wrote at all.
Ok I think of it like this.
So there's no real explanation as to what makes a good melody or what makes melodies good other than conditioning, right?
So most people learn to appreciate melodies cause that's like the main thing in most music.
So people who don't listen to rap much won't learn to appreciate a rhyme scheme or delivery or whatever just cause they're not as conditioned to understand or connect to it that way.
So you pretty much just can't into raps cause of underexposure. Cause even the most popular shit out doesn't even really flow like that, like it's more sing-songy.
>>63186731
lmao shut up fukin autist who cares bout culture n shit just blaze it all day bro
>>63186731
if you were smarter, you would've used armchair anthropologist as an insult instead. would make way more sense. Instead you just gave another hint that you're dumb as rocks. Nice going dude.
>>63186607
>>63186794
Lil Internet is that you m8?
>>63186794
Yea i should have typed "cultures" you're right
>And culture does not "devolve" as it adapts to current circumstances and events.
Maybe you're okay with all of humanity resembling Africa, but i would like to avoid that if possible
>>63186910
No. Just an anonymous gyal.
>>63186833
There is an explanation to what makes a good melody and to what works are the best but honestly I don't wanna write about it on 4chan, It's a long explanation and english isn't even my mother tongue, I think that if you think about it long and hard enough you will understand,
https://soundcloud.com/lordlorenraps
here's some good shit
>>63187001
Wait I wanna hear it
>>63186966
XDDD
Africa is a continent and does not have homogenous cultures or people.
Just like in white cunts.
So I don't understand where the autism stems from.
>>63187008
That's fucking terrible anon
>>63187023
So are you saying that the cultures of Africa are equal to the cultures of Europe, and you would be okay with European cultures disappearing and being replaced by African cultures?
>>63186966
>>63186607
>these dudes are literally laying it right out on the table for you, just straight up saying “I actively associate my diminishing political privilege with my sexual humiliation”
>Maybe you're okay with all of humanity resembling Africa, but i would like to avoid that if possible
>>63186978
Oh, well you should read some of his stuff. It's rare to find people seeking objective truths these days, props to you
YOU STUPID FUCKS THINK ABOUT CULTURE LIKE BLACK AND WHITE WHEN CULTURE SHOULD BE TALKED ABOUT COUNTRY WISE, AND YOU STUPID AMERICANS HAVE ONE OF THE WORST, ENJOY YOUR NIGGA MUSIC WHILE I READ MY DANTE MY SHAKESPEARE MY CERVANTES MY LEOPARDI MY LAFORGUE MY MAJAKOVSKIJ MY FUCKING EUROPEAN MASTER RACE CULTURE, ENJOY STILL FIGHTING ABOUT SHITTY MUSIC.
>>63187076
False equivalence.
And what's up with these autistic tier hypothetical questions?
Not gonna happen.
Cultures do not disappear or get replaced. Well cultures would only disappear when language dissappears.
Culture adapts.
>>63187021
Sorry but I don't wanna write such a long explanation and then realizing it's too hard a concept for you 4channers, I suggest reading the major philosophers, but if you're smart enough Plato has everything you need to realize certain things.
>>63187092
Holy autismo.
>>63187092
Culture is global now. You're living wayyyy in the past, time to catch up buddy.
>>63187187
YOU STUPID FUCK THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU READ DANTE GOZZANO RIMBAUD LORCA ESENIN SVEVO JOYCE AND DID, AND WHY YOU KNOW NIGGA MUSIC AND I DON'T YOU STUPID CUNT
>>63187326
>>63187092
>he thinks typing in all caps and dropping names makes him look smart and cultured
>>63187395
He's most likely shitposting.
>>63187092
This triggers me. Low quality angry yelling baitposting is my trigger
>>63187395
NO ACTUALLY I DROP NAMES TO MAKE YOU REMEMBER THAT STUPID AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER TO DROP SUCH NAMES AND I WRITE IN CAP SO MORE PEOPLE READ IT AND TRY TO ANSWER BUT THEY FUCKING CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S THE TRUTH AND YOU CAN'T WIN OVER IT.
>>63186053
it is appealing to my ears therefore I listen to it
>>63186145
But there are raps that are quite literally poems. There are tracks that are made by real musicians. This is nothing but a bait thread, and if it isnt its coming from someone who hasnt explored rap or the genre
>>63187473
then give me an example
>>63187448
>>63187484
Atmosphere - Fuck You Lucy
Herbal T - That's it
Chance the Rapper - The Writer
Flume & Vince Staples - Smoke and Retribution
>>63187484
In eternal blackness, in the midst of the darkest night
Proteins and minerals, exist within specks of light
Solids liquids and gases, and sparks of light within
Infinite lengths and widths and depths and heights
No beginning or ending, the seven dimensions
Enough space for more than a million words and inventions
To travel through time within enough room to be the womb
Of the most high’s great mind which he will soon make shine
With intelligent elements in sight that he will gather
In the realms of relativity electricity struck matter
Energies explode he below to keep releasin
Atoms by the millions, til the numbers increasin
Til it was burnin he kept returnin itself to the source
The hotter his thoughts it gave the center more force
He gave birth to the sun which would follow his laws
All caused by his mental intercourse
>>63187596
Also
Milo - Folk Metaphysics
Atmosphere - Yesterday
Brother Ali - Forest Whittaker
>>63187596
>Atmosphere
>Flume & Vince Staples
as a hip-hop fan, I have to say you aren't really helping our case here ...
>>63187484
as for music The Roots use real instruments
>>63187625
If you dont find the lyricism in those songs powerful and the emotions in them powerful then you didnt listen to them.
>>63187001
and you fucking thing Dylan and Beefheart would fit that?
>>63187173
>reading the major philosophers
oh that's what you're talking about, you don't actually have any knowledge of music theory or what you're talking about
>>63187652
Fair enough. However, I have listened to Vince Staples and Atmosphere albums in the past, and I was consistently bored with surface level analogies/metaphors and overdone tropes. So you can see why I would feel that way.
>>63187625
I will say that at least for VS most of his other songs are primarily "yee yee nigga I'm the realest"-tier
>>63187677
I was talking about philosopher because the guy said it's a matter of opinion, so first of all we should analyze the concept of opinion and why it is wrong, also about dylan and beefheart, I just said melody to be generic, of course it's much more complicated than that
Nogs and nog worshippers so triggered in here lmao.
>>63186053
>typed like a poem
Yep. It's bait.
/pol/ cucks hella triggered in this thread in here lmao
>>63188198
hitting enter it's not making a poem you idiot, and I did it because when making thread I always make a long string of text, there's surely a better way but I use chans once or twice a year and I don't even wanna know.
it's simple
because of the flow
dgaf about the lyrics
F L O W
L
O
W
>>63188289
alright that's what I like, people that just plainly say "I'm stupid", that's how you do it, intelligence is a natural trait like hair color, so it's useless to be offended if you're stupid or to be proud if you're smart, I like who just plainly says it, "it's the flow" or "I'm stupid" or whatever, good job.
>>63186412
Listing the two most well-known writers in existence does not signify that you enjoy "the best there is"; on the contrary, it signifies that you don't actually read. If you did, you would have mentioned Chaucer or Milton or Johnson or Coleridge or Marlowe or Eliot or Virgil or Ovid or Sterne or Melville or Goethe or Pound or Crane or Ashberry or Joyce or Beckett or Proust or Mann or Gaddis or Hawkes or McElroy or O'Brien or Kafka or Flaubert or Gass or Barth or Pynchon or Vollmann or any other of the hundreds of writers you haven't read.
>>63187638
>>63187615
>>63188386
>>63187484
>>63187622
>gets examples
>doesnt reply
>gets btfo
classic
>>63186053
>I enjoy beefheart shostakovich dylan, and Shakespeare and Dante
>>63188481
I don't acknowledge them as the two most known but as the two best, and many of the authors you've listed consider them the two best, so your accusation it's false.
didn't listen to them yet give me the time ffs
>>63188586
lol absolutely not
