How is it you have 20 hip hop threads an hour but have no idea the differences between techno, house, breaks, garage or downtempo?
Its all ''electronic music''.
Pardners
I legitimately can't hear the difference between most of those. I would like to listen to them but they seem to be more for dancing to than for just listening to.
Downtempo and trip hop are good though.
>>63056871
majority of /mu/ isnt into dance music, except for /bleep/.
>>63056921
So is most hip hop, the only difference is a few more vocals.
>>63056927
>dub techno
>ambient house
>dance music
Its not all club music
>>63056927
I was just using it as an umbrella term. Like I said most of it isn't recognized by /mu/
>>63056919
/thread
>>63056956
i meant >>63056936
>>63056956
>most of it isn't recognized by /mu/
Why is that though?
Hip hop, techno and house all started around the same time and all hugely different with lots of different sub styles etc... Shit, breaks come predominately from hip hop music too.
>>63056988
>Why is that though?
because p4k / fantano have not yet decided to jump on this music maybe in the future when hip hop lost some popularity
>>63056988
not sure, there are probably other places to discuss stuff like this. I think Basic Channel - BCD2 and Burial were considered /mu/ core a while back, but besides that I don't think they have looked much past that.
it's all white noise
Electronica is just a subgenre of rock as much as punk or metal are. Via the proxy of modern R&B.
R&B simply set the stage for rock'n'roll to emerge. What was missing (the great drawback of rhythm'n'blues) was true creativity. Rhythm'n'blues (whether vocal or instrumental) was anchored to well-defined structures, that performers challenged only marginally. There were no significant attempts to create free-form structures, to integrate idioms of other cultures, to enlarge the orchestration to new instruments, to radically alter any of the fundamental dogmas of black-music performance. That was indeed the revolution of rock music, which will progressively introduce the traditional European values of innovation and progress into the archaic values of African personal expression.
Indeed, the majority of EDM is a reversion to the stagnation of 40s R&B and 70s Disco. In 30 years time it will seem just as embarrassing and non-artistic as these.
>>63057149
Rock is just R&B from Africa via the proxy of American slavery.
>>63056871
Hey OP, what's the Neutral Milk Hotel of you genres? If it doesn't suck, I might care.
>how do you have a laptop but have no idea about programming?
>how can you drive a car, but have no idea about mechanical engineering?
stfu idiot
>>63057299
Which genre?
>>63057313
That makes zero sense.
>>63057441
neither does OP's post.
>>63057441
Electronic music :^)
What is worth hearing from these "electronic genres" which aren't represented by /mu/?
>>63057474
Which of your 3 braincells remind you to breathe in and out? What happens when you lose that one?
>>63057299
Techno
>>63057490
haha who actually types shit like this? fuckoff faggot.
>>63057513
Techno 2
>>63057299
Downtempo
>>63056871
lad, techno alone is more varied and compositionally complex and varied than hip hop could dream of being
>>63057541
thanks!
>>63057541
>>63057533
>>63057513
These charts are so shitty. There's a lot of great stuff on them, but the genre labeling is completely off for so many of these. Not very useful if you're trying to find a specific sound.
>>63057746
Techno 2 is a bit shit but the other 2 are okay, not sure what ''modern'' is meant to mean though
>>63056919
this tbqh w/ you family
>>63056871
>techno, house, breaks, garage
Someone please explain the difference to me
>>63057866
Techno is a genre that emerged in Detroit, Michigan, in the United States during the mid-to-late 1980s. In Detroit techno resulted from the melding of African American music including Chicago house, funk, electro, and electric jazz with electronic music by artists such as KevDog Kraftwerk, Giorgio Moroder, and Yellow Magic Orchestra. Added to this is the influence of futuristic and fictional themes.
House music is a genre of music that originated in Chicago in the early 1980s. Early house music was generally dance-based music characterized by repetitive 4/4 beats, rhythms mainly provided by drum machines, off-beat hi-hat cymbals, and synthesized basslines. While house displayed several characteristics similar to disco music, it was more electronic and minimalistic.
In the late 1970s and early 1980s, hip hop turntablists, such as DJ Kool Herc, began using several funk breaks in a row, using irregular drum patterns from songs such as James Brown's "Funky Drummer" and The Winstons' "Amen Brother", to form the rhythmic base for hip hop songs. In the early 1990s, acid house artists and producers started using breakbeat samples in their music to create breakbeat hardcore, also known as rave music. The hardcore scene then diverged into subgenres like jungle and drum and bass, which generally had a darker sound and focused more on complex sampled drum patterns.
UK garage (also known as UKG) is a genre of electronic music originating from the United Kingdom in the early 1990s. The genre usually features a distinctive syncopated 4/4 percussive rhythm with 'shuffling' hi-hats and beat-skipping kick drums. Garage tracks also commonly feature 'chopped up' and time-shifted or pitch-shifted vocal samples complementing the underlying rhythmic structure at a tempo usually around 130 BPM.
>>63057866
No.
>>63057866
Techno is futuristic
House is gay soul
Breaks is sampling real drums
Garage is swingy
>>63057866
i'm not >>63057919
but ill give you some examples for each.
TECHNO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGqiBFqWCTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsct-e-HVE0
(dub techno) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUD4RaRSSio
UKG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJX72gEEo68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv2Uu7NOPng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYjDlL9f3VY
HOUSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAR8cq5Bl94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSOYeY2G-hw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a1Qw4jQqrM
I'm not doing breaks though, i'm not to into it and don't have tracks right off the bat. These are just some fairly popular tricks that might help you understand what each genre sounds like, i'm sure someone can do better.
>>63058067
BREAKS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoV85P4L8kI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBqsafL2qoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymNFyxvIdaM
>>63058086
thanks b
i feel bad for /mu/ desu. electronic music is so diverse and listenable. y'all are really missing out on a huge chunk of music history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9GU2mv0j9A
>>63058185
>''electronic music''
>>63058192
there really isnt a good all encompassing word for this type of music, i know "electronic music" sounds awkward.
>>63058192
its a good umrella term
>>63058206
>>63058228
Well lets see, you could try maybe ''techno'' for techno. ''House'' for house music. ''Breaks'' for breakbeat music. ''Garage'' for UKGarage music. ''Hip hop'' for hip hop music.
You know, like metal, punk, emo etc
>>63058267
umbrella terms exist for a reason. nobody wants to list out every single genre out there when theyre trying to talk about the entire thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZFEIZF-LQk
>>63058267
>what is rock music
>what is pop music
>>63058305
Pleb.
>>63058305
But you aren't, you're talking about techno.
>>63058318
Yeah, /mu/ is all about the /rock/ generals.
>>63058320
techno is a specific subset of electronic music.
>>63058319
sorry my taste isnt obscure enough for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgKPYf6jQ9I
>>63058355
Pleb as in clueless. You really need to destroy yourselves.
EDM is shit
>>63058355
So is hip hop yet there are 20 threads about it an hour, so why not techno?
>>63058376
please explain
>>63058404
probably because hip hop has lyrics. there isnt a whole lot to talk about when its all instrumental.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bphscDmByA
>>63058444
>there isnt a whole lot to talk about when its all instrumental
Really now?
>>63058463
>there isnt a whole lot to shitpost* about
thats better
>>63058475
yeah that makes sense for here
bleep bloop rainy morning snoop
This is Phil
>>63056936
>>63056936
Most hip hop discussed here is liked for powerful lyricism or impressive production. Who the fuck dances to what's considered good hip hop?
>>63056871
kek
watching plebs try and talk about shit they know nothing about
>posting first hit youtube links
>"downtempo"
>umbrella genres of techno and house
>referencing fucking EDM
listen, /mu/, maybe just stick to the meme grips and kendy lmaos for a while till you clue up huh?
>>63058067
>house
>lone
>delroy
senpai
>>63059815
Yes downtempo, the music played in chill out rooms in clubs back in the early 90s and the morning after on the beaches of Ibiza.
What is the progressive rock of techno/house/whatever? I like psytrance but it isn't proggy enough.
>>63059921
Sorry, I said someone could do better.
>>63059214
>powerful lyricism
kek
>impressive production
same then
>who the fuck dances
all those people who go to see live hip hop
Edm made specifically for /mu/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE6-iMMYc3U
Serious question cuz I legit do no listen to any "current" EDM (I'd say the closest is like House from the early 00s, namely Daft Punk - Discovery).
My friends on the other hand go to festivals and all that shit and got into an argument about "the next big thing" in EDM.
What the fuck is a "hardstyle" or "trance" or all these genres that sound like skills from an RPG?
What are the differences between them?
I don't care what shitposters say, it's obviously like this because of how huge marketing is in hip hop. It's literally catered directly to people in their 20s. I can't even think of a single genre that comes close in terms of sheer commercialization, and obviously subgenres of electronica don't even try to do this on the level hip hop does.
>>63062135
trance is a fairly large techno derived genre that generally just focuses on ebic uplifting synth buildups, there's been good stuff released but overall it's largely responsible for the generic as fuck pop-dance/'edm' sound that's been popularized in the us over the past few years
hardstyle is a """harder""" mix of that and shitty gabber
>>63062070
>>63062135
Why are you bringing EDM into this?
>>63062407
bruh. you know what we are talking about.
>>63056871
The start one about one of those genre's and stop bitching.
>>63057541
>fucking Boards of Canada and Moby is in there
What is this?
>>63058404
>>63058463
Hip Hop threads attract posters from across the board. Hip Hop has lyricism and context in today's society that is easy to grasp, comprehend and vibe with.
Genres like techno and house, to be appreciated in a proper way, require the knowledge to properly identify between subtle changes between songs. It requires a more trained ear to discuss.
Most people can appreciate house or techno, but few people can talk about it. (Me included - I watch a few Boiler Room sets, follow a couple labels, occasionally swing by /bleep/, but I don't know or care enough about the genres to weigh in with opinions.)
>>63062945
That explains a lot about hip hop fans. Thanks.
I know!
Techno is for geeky losers, house is for flamboyant homosexuals, breaks are for 90s nostalgia, garage is for British white trash ("chavs"), and downtempo is for overpriced fusion restaurants.
What do I win?
>>63056871
>>63058185
nobody knows the difference because nobody who actually likes music wants anything to do with the shitty rhythms, non-existent melodies, or unimaginative drum beats that are invariably found in you shitty, substance-less "music"
>>63063328
You win the "needs to get out more" award.
>>63063328
I'd love to see what you listen to
>>63063388
Prove it
>>63063328
So still better than hip hop fans and its intended audience.
>pardners think all techno, house, breaks, garage and downtempo is EDM
>>63063887
they are. are you retarded?
>>63063887
also, what the fuck in a pardner?
>>63063976
he isn't, but you are
get better b8 next time
>>63064007
all that shit sounds the same as the rest of it. those names don't mean anything.
>>63064051
not true btw
I got techno house and breaks down fine
and downtempo
so what exactly is garage
>>63064056
sure.
have fun listening to "minimal talent and effort: the genre"
>>63064131
>being this much of a shithead
I bet you unironically listen to radiohead
>>63064078
There is an explanation from wikipedia above but basically its variations on 2step and speed garage
Its an American website with mostly American posters and such, hip hop is the most marketed genre.
If it was a European site with mostly European posters, these threads would be most prominent and hip hop would be a single genre like /bleep/
>>63056871
You can tell your all yanks because none of you know anything about eletronic music.
>>63064201
nah.
you unironically listen to techno, though. but i'm sure you'll grow out of it. i had a short phase like that when i was 14, too.
>>63064297
oh look, the most autistic person in the thread knows the most about electronic music!
i'm sure it's a coincidence.
>>63057533
Moodymann aint techno nor is shake by any definition of the term.
>>63064250
what's double garage?
>>63064297
>>63064320
>unironically saying ''electronic music''
>>63064346
when it's big enough for two cars
>>63064320
he's not wrong though
>>63064320
nah the most European it's everywhere in Europe. you yanks were 20 years late. Carl Craig came to England amazed that white people knew he existed. Outside of black community's you have no culture for it
>>63064300
nah.
I listen to electronica, ambient, downtempo, and deep house. But I'm sure some meme rapper smoking a million joints lazily slurring his speech to a basic beat made by fucking around in FL or some bearded faggot huffing his own farts strumming an out of tune guitar takes much more skill.
>>63064354
what has irony got to do with anything? We are not talking about Pc Music here
>>63064472
No we aren't. A plethora of instrumentation is used in the genres.
>>63064393
>some bearded faggot huffing his own farts
you just described every single fan or creator of your garbage dance music.
you do realize that literally anybody could sit down with any audio software make shit that sounds no different than what you consider to be good?
>talent
>ability
these are things that are necessary in any genre of music except yours. what you're a fan of is objectively bad.
>>63064538
>all techno, house, breaks, garage and downtempo genres and subgenre are dance music
keep digging that hole lad
>>63064538
rah i bet you have a fedora
>>63064538
>objectively bad
You can't even name what music I like though you fucking idiot, and I doubt you even heard any of it. How can criticize something you don't know the definition of?
Retarted americans like yourself hear shitty progressive house, bouncy, or dubstep songs and then conclude all "EDM" is like that. It makes zero fucking sense. It's like saying all of "rock music" is bad because you don't like a Smash Mouth tune.
None of the shit I listen to has anything to even do with techno.
>>63064628
>>63064640
>>63064643
pointing out that i don't know the difference between subgenres does absolutely nothing to further your argument that techno/garage/house/whatever the fuck you want to call it music requires any talent or effort to make.
keep digging that hole, you fedora wearing retarts.
>>63064814
>I don't know what something is
>so it's shit
Literally the most retarded argument I've heard in my entire fucking life
>>63064814
Except it objectively does.
>>63064847
you can't even read
>>63064848
nice bait
when one of your "artists" performs one of their tracks, what does it consist of? a dude presses play, then maybe turns some knobs or mixes another per-rendered track into it.
when one of your "artists" records a track, what does it consist of? a dude sits in a greasy leather chair in front of his computer for an hour.
where's the talent? where's the effort? where is the musical knowledge? simply stated, there is none.
>>63064970
No my point is that when you don't know what something is, you aren't in a position to claim it doesn't take talent.
Again you're just proving my point. You're making shit up in your head from your extremely limited exposure to mainstream trash like Skrillex, Martin Garret and Deadmau5.
>>63056871
Daylee reminder that Metal is Electronic Music
I like a fair amount of electronic music but I can't bring myself to care about the difference between every subgenre
>>63065081
you've done nothing to show me otherwise. your argument thus far has been "no u frickin idiot ur wrong"
you still haven't even said anything.
>>63065183
we're both plebs when it comes to that anon.
>>63065209
You haven't said anything either other than repeating it "doesn't take talent" into infinity.
>>63065235
at least i have a point to make. your argument is like your music
there's nothing there
>>63056871
You'll never understand, UBITCHU
What's the difference between house and garage?
>>63065286
CARLOOOOOOOS!!!!
>>63065306
one is for cars
one is for people
>>63065306
house is from chicago, garage is from nyc
inb4 muh ukg
>>63065286
I've explained exactly why you're wrong though. Your points are based on nothing but a bunch of false premises.
You don't like "electronic music" because you don't like a small handful of mainstream trash
You think it takes no skill because that mainstream trash consists of a bunch of press play DJs
You don't don't even know what dance music is, you just know you don't like it
There's nothing to argue against. You're fucking retarded.
>>63064538
Can I hear your music?
So many americans in this thread lmaoooo
