what is the Ulysses of music?
The Avalanches' Since I Left You
Trout Mask Replica, objectively
Philosophy of the World is a good one too when you consider the amount of people that pretend to get it.
>>63017982
that answer makes no sense.
trout mask replica
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>>63017996
But Ulysses is good
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>>63017996
I don't particularly enjoy Ulysses or TMR, but I think it's a fair comparison.
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>>63017996
No, Finnegans Wake is Trout Mask Replica
>>63018010
depending on who you ask
some people say it's a meme
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>>63017996
If you weren't retarded subhuman memer sheep you'd understand sound collages/plunderphonics are intertextuality applied to music
>>63018018
finnegan's wake is more like pulse demon
>>63018021
>thinks about real world things as memes
hmm
>>63018044
those aren't my words
after some time on /lit/ you see a few people who legitimately think that james joyce is a meme and that people only pretend to like him
>>63018043
No Pulse Demon is garb
>>63018036
You're the one who posted first in this thread aren't you?
You have terrible tastes
>>63018071
meme is an empty word that means nothing used by people who have strong opinions about something they know very little about to make it sound like their opinion has weight (to other idiots)
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>>63018036
In fact, there's LITERALLY NOTHING SIMILAR between any of what James Joyce did and anything Beefheart did, and you can't tell me either, other than LE SO AVANT-GARDE XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>63018098
Good thing the OP wasn't asking for good music. Is that why you said TMR?
>>63018101
i don't get why you're getting all worked up when i completely agree with you
i think the word meme should be an offense worthy of being banned
>>63018133
I'm not getting worked up at you I'm just ranting on the word meme lol. Anyone that uses it to structure an opinion is a fool
>>63018133
>i think the word meme should be an offense worthy of being banned
That's the most offensive and extreme thing I've ever read on this website. And that's including /pol/
>>63018119
If you're looking at TMR and Finnegans Wake you could easily compare how polarizing they are. And how off the wall they are, and how unique they are, and how silly they are.
>>63017993
>implying the Shaggs were competent human beings
There's nothing to 'get' with Philosophy of the World. It is quite literally three shit musicians on record. Jesus. Go have a wank to Frank Zappa you pleb.
I guess I finally get why you faggots try to compare James Joyce and Captain Beefheart
>>63018214
That is literally the worst comparison I have ever seen between two things. "They're similar because of what I, the retard, think of them, and the audience's reaction to them".
Avant-Meme Teens should keep to RYM.
>>63018119
the only similarity is that they are both viewed as titans of their medium that are incomprehensible in parts. Finnegans Wake is obviously more incomprehensible. But you're right in that in terms of substance they are nothing alike.
>>63018341
I think i'm too nice to put it that way, but it's true. You'd have to know nothing about either to think they are at all alike. But the question is ridiculous anyway
>>63017972
Not even fucking around when I say MBDTF. Search your feelings you know it to be true.
>>63018384
this doesnt make sense. explain yourself
>>63018277
kek
>>63018384
have you ever read joyce anon? your underage is showing
>>63018071
it's an inevitable thing on 4chan. Of course people will say that a universally acclaimed writer with such an esteemed reputation would face contrarian criticism. I don;t doubt that some people genuinely dislike Joyce but you'd be hardpressed to find a serious literary critic/scholar that thinks Joyce is a 'meme' (or rather, a sub-par author)
>>63017972
there is no good comparison
>>63018018
Finnegans Wake is more like pic-related
still, music hasn't had an alien come down to earth pretending to be a human composer yet.
>>63018549
Sun Ra?
>>63018549
I just started listening to Gods of Chaos by that band in your pic related
What do I do next
>>63018619
The album I posted is my favorite
my second favorite is Incarceration by Abstraction
>>63018277
I love Joyce, and I kek every time I see a Finny Wake reference.
What is the Siddhartha of music?
>hard mode: no Close to the Edge
>>63018010
its literally a meme. You can't even understand a page of that meme, the only thing it's good for is memeing/.
>>63019706
I brekek kekek kekek coax coax, everytime I see a FW reference
Nancarrows Studies of course
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>>63020093
>not βρεkεkεkεkεk, kοαξ, kοαξ-ing when you see an Aristophanes reference
>>63018277
Joyce confirmed a loyal follower of Kek
>>63020074
don't project your retardation anon
>>63018036
Since I Left you is a pretty valid comparison but the glaring difference is it really cannot be considered stream of consciousness...
>>63020074
It sounds like you haven't read it.
>>63019000
word, thanks
>>63018496
If the musical equivalent is Since I Left You then I don't even have to read the book to know it's meme rubbish.
MBDTF
Charles Mingus Sextet - Cornell 1964
>>63020208
I'm not the guy who suggested The Avalanches, nor would I ever suggest them as comparative to Ulysses. That would be retarded.
I get the feeling they might be referring to the intertextuality as comparable to the sampling on that album... maybe? I'm probably giving the suggestion much more credit than it deserves, and it would be a weak comparison anyway.
>>63017972
Jesus Christ all these people in this thread.
It's probably Wandelweiser und so weiter.
>>63020448
Ulysses also indulges in a lot of genre pastiche
