Who's the best classical composer and why is it Chopin?
Who is the biggest faggot and why is it OP?
Wagner
>>62603520
I fall into the Debussy camp as far as what I like to hear from classical music, but saying that anyone other than Mozart is GOAT is fraudulent.
Further proof that Mozart is underrated.
>>62603520
Bach.
You have to write for more than one instrument to be a great composer. (2 concerti hardly count)
I think it's pergolesi.
>>62603520
Who told you it's Chopin? There are also other great composers like Beethoven, Liszt, Schubert, Tchaikovsky, Vivaldi. Rachmaninoff, Schumann, Mendelssohn and many more.
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>>62604280
>Rachmaninoff
>great composer
>>62603541
> Who is the biggest faggot and why is it OP?
It's because OP doesn't like any other composers than Chopin.
>>62604280
>Rachmaninoff
>great composer
lmao
the only reasonable answer is Bach come on why do people pretend there's a race for anything but second place at this point?
[spoiler]and why do people pretend that non-Germans even break the top 5?[/spoiler]
>>62604330
>Rachmaninoff
>great composer
Who's the best classical composer and why is it not Rachmaninoff?
>>62604359
> why do people pretend that non-Germans even break the top 5?
Because Italian and Russian can break the top 5.
Hans Zimmer
>>62604438
wait, who in the following list is an Italian or Russian?
Bach
Mozart
Beethoven
Wagner
Strauss
Webern
Lachenmann
>>62604539
>Lachenmann
>Webern over Schoenberg
>>62603520
Chopin is the Ben Folds of classical music.
>>62604539
Italian :
Vivaldi
Palestrina
Puccini
Paganini
Monteverdi
Russian :
Tchaikovsky
Rimsky-Korsakov
Rachmaninoff
Khachaturian
Stravinsky
>>62604576
i wouldn't put Lachenmann anywhere near the top 5 of all time, just thought i'd throw him in as my favorite contemporary composer since i realized the Teutonic tradition continues to dominate. and sorry, i think Webern's graceful, pointilistic masterpieces are much more interesting applications of Schoenberg's ideas, even if i love Pierrot lunaire and Schoenberg's string quartets.
>>62604539
Here's a top 5 with only 1 german:
Josquin (Franco-Flemish)
Palestrina (Italian)
Tallis (English)
Bach (German)
Bartok (Hungarian)
Also Webern and Mozart were Austrian. Mozart was born in Salzburg (Austria) and lived most of his life in Vienna.
>>62604539
> Lachenmann
80 years old.
LMAO
why is schubert so underrated on mu ;__;
>>62604865
According to this faggot >>62604539
Only Germans are the best.
>>62604659
>Puccini
>Paganini
>Tchaikovsky
>Rachmaninoff
>Khachaturian
>no Mussorgsky
It's like you're trying to prove his point.
Bruckner or Wagner
Fight me.
>>62604944
I just said 5.
Of course Mussorgsky, Borodin Scriabin... It's endless.
>Puccini over Verdi
>Paganini
>no mention of a dozen infinitely better and more renowned Italian composers
>all of those russians
>even close to top 5
>>62605026
Bruckner is Adam Sandler of 18th century.
I'm a tchaikovsky slut
I know he's not the best but boy, am I enamoured by his works
anyone similar or better that I can get into?
>>62605063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUuusqy50yk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3whFPW_U5-4
I find a similar feel in both of them.
>>62603897
Why is Mozart so celebrated? When I listen to him I just get bored, and multiple listens aren't rewarding at all. I realise that he was aiming for simplicity, but then why is he revered as a genius?
>>62604280
Rachmaninoff is fucking shit, friend
>>62605146
It's a meme.
>>62604303
>>62604330
>>62605210
Can you people lay off the stupid memes for just one fucking thread. Rach isn't shit, he isn't great either he's just another composer.
>>62605750
Two of them were laughing, the other said he's into scat. Wtf, dude.
>>62604716
>mfw that's your top five
I have no face
Also, how could Bach not be number one? He's written so much that is literally God Tier.
>>62604539
Mozart and Bach are the only good composers on that list. Also
>Strauss
>>62605804
>dude counterpoint lmao
>>62604280
Mendelssohn and Rachmaninov are not worthy to be in that list.
Bach, Händel, Rameau, Couperin, Scarlatti jr. are all more deserving of a spot.
>>62605965
>Händel
>ä
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoImjQOEp-Q
>18:38
What the fuck is that sound?
>>62604865
>schubert underrated
if only you were here for CLT
>>62606061
"stage sound"
>Ctrl + F
>No Brahms
Sad how many plebs are on this board nowadays
>>62603937
>You have to write for more than one instrument to be a great composer
Why?
I really just can't get into Chopin, I should probably have another go at it since it has been a while. It's taken me a while to grow into 'enjoying' solo piano pieces, and I suspect that's why I've never particularly bothered with Chopin. He might make the piano sound pretty as a piano, but somebody like Liszt made it sound like more.
I'll probably have another listen through his stuff though. The preludes are generally ok, the nocturnes are certainly listenable, I can't really recall his concerti except for that piano+orchestral variations on La ci darem la mano.
>>62604659
>No Verdi in Italian
>>62604865
>>62606197
>CLT
I miss that stupid bastard. Anyone know if he's still in the DC area? I could buy him a beer and tell him how shitty all his opinions are.
>>62607501
Liszt is better than Chopin. I love both of them personally.
>No Verdi in Italian
Same as another anon
>>62604944
>>62605029
>>62607700
Add...
>CLT
>2000 - 2016
Better
What should I listen to by Franck?
>>62607700
>Liszt is better than Chopin.
Ha*10^100
Both are great but Liszt isn't as memorable
>>62608092
GOOD
MEME
>>62603520
Mahler
>>62608092
>Liszt isn't as memorable
Hello, YouTube.
>>62608247
Male her
>>62608208
>>62608273
I see the Liszt defense force is awake.
>>62608247
Mahler? I hardly even know her!
>>62608409
SWTFA is overrated af.
Anyone know where I can find the Giardino Armonico recording of the Brandenburg Concertos? Lossless ofc. Google has failed me.
Bruckner or Mahler
>>62608691
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1355096
Last two CDs. One of my favourite Brandenburg sets but doesn't seem to get mentioned enough
>>62608752
The stupid search on that site only looks in titles -__- But I guess I didn't try hard enough. Thanks.
>>62608752
nice, you beat me by seconds with the link, anon
>>62608752
I always search through google, more effective, still difficult to find that one though
antonini bach site:rutracker.org
why does /mu/ see no difference between barokko,classical and romantic?
To say Bach is a classical composer is a crime.
>>62608858
Plebs on this broad Baroque Bach's heart.
>>62608858
"classical" has been a catch-all term for concert music in popular discourse for a very long time
>>62604303
Kill yourself
>>62608899
> Kill yourself
You're
>>62608911
Ah, thanks.
>>62608896
ok thanks, I guess I need to accept that...
>>62603710
Debussy gets me de pussy
> I need help. I am stuck at 64.9%
See this >>699571
>>62605965
Lol you retired the bests of the list
>>62608924
It still kind of works, since most of the music is based on modes invented by the Ancient (Classical) Greeks
>>62608752
>http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1355096
>>62608802
>rutracker.org
What kind of retarded site is this? How do I change that retarded Russian language to English?
>>62608986
You could try Google Translate.
>>62608911
Kill you are self
>>62608994
I am not getting any options to change it.
