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hopefully we can stay afloat during these tumultuous kanye and anco tread times
post hopeful blissful shoegaze
>>62575392
Thanks for this, really new to shoegaze and wanting to listen to more. First shoegaze band I listened to was Codeine, some others are Whirr and True Widow. Really like the genre so far
have a free bump
How do you feel about Spectrum?
>>62575652
I listened to that Sounds of Desolation album, it just sounded like a more boring version of GYBE.
Bump bump
>>62576130
i can see what you mean.. it's mostly instrumental post rock like godspeed or this will distroy you. sun devoured earth has some albums with a more blackmetal/gaze influence as well and i think he venture out a bit more with samples and soundbites. his sound is a bit more bleak as well
>>62575392
Isn't anco noise pop?
>>62576094
do you mean spectres? nice noisy punky sound. a lot of shoegaze is downtempo and feelsy, i like how they're uptempo and energetic
guys i tried out for a shoegaze band and the guitarist had a ton of pedals
>>62576611
Well that makes sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz2Q_NifmpU
guys i tried out for a synthpop band and the keyboardist had a lot of synthesizers
guys i tried out for a plunderphonics band and the producer had a lot of vinyls
guys i tried out for a speed metal band and the drummer had a lot of kick pedals
guys i tried out for a rap rock band and they were all white
>>62576459
Yes spectres is good as heck but I mean Spectrum or Sonic Boom or whatever he goes by now
guys i tried out for the walkmen and the lead singer had a lotta nerve to be asking a favor
https://highsunn.bandcamp.com/album/luv-songs-for-whiners
>>62576093
Please tell me you've listened to My Bloody Valentine...
I expect you have, but if not, Loveless. NOW.
The other two "main essentials" are Slowdive's Souvlaki, which I recommend immensely, and Ride's Nowhere, which is closer to the noise pop end of the spectrum, but is still a really good listen.
Again, you likely know all of this, but you said you were new to the genre and these are some classics. Have fun listening
More stuff that sounds like Ceres and Calypso please? Can't get enough of its tropical shoegaze feel.
>>62576386
Early Anco yes
>>62576386
neo-psychedelia
Is Duster - Stratosphere, shoegaze?
>>62578169
no not really
>>62563449
damn... I actually found a zippyshare link of the album
http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/i2pHml9g/file.html
>>62577795
Don't do this. Don't jump into the "Essentials", as they're actually the best the genre hast to offer. Work your way to them slowly. I'd have loved to not being introduced to shoegaze by Loveless and Souvlaki, because sincerely there's nothing than can top it.
>>62578169
Not really. Lots of wall-of-sound and maybe quite influenced by it, yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDp27b0sknk
>>62578775
That's actually a very good point. Thanks. Probably going to think this way when it comes to other genres.
>>62579785
in that case listen to the song the band i fucking posted
>>62578848
>>62575652
needs Medicine on it and pinkshinyultrablast is better than Whitenoise Superstar.
>>62575652
Some of these aren't really experimental, they're just noisy.
>>62577795
Bad advice man. If you don't know how to appreciate textures before going into loveless, you're not going to think it's anything special.
Anyone else managed to see Pinkshinyultrablast perform some tracks from Grandfeathered? They're fucking spectacular live fambo
>anyone else ONTO
>>62582819
Sounds awesome tell us about it.
If something has guitars, distortion, reverb and interesting texture (but not necessarily from a guitar) would you consider it in the family of shoegaze? How far does something matching that description have to go before you would put your foot down on it no longer being related to the genre? Just something I've been thinking about recently, both due to imagining new approaches to the genre and as a response to the common cry that shoegaze is dead or stagnant. It seems that "dreamy noisy guitar rock" has a lot of space left and that it probably contains both things that are unexpectedly shoegaze and things that stray too far.
>>62583081
I dunno man, I'd even consider some albums by deftones to be shoegaze in a way. Better be open than narrow it down, right?
shugazi familia, what's Faye Wong qt's second best album? Did she make any other dream pop album that this one?
>>62576093
Codeine aren't shoegaze senpai
>>62578775
nah there's a fair amount of albums that are on the same level imho.
Also, try out Pastel Blue Demos by Pastel Blue. Japanese Slowdive copycats basically, but still have a gorgeous sound and pull it off really well.
>>62584299
iirc that's her more "artistic" album, the rest of her stuff is more cpop, less dream pop
holy shit, this is actually great. Slowdive are prob one of my fav bands but I never bothered to try Mojave 3. It's chill af.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89eAUxHW1E4&list=PL6547AADB340D8497
>>62578775
>>62579785
I used to think this as well. Once I saw >>62575484 I just started to view "pure" shoegaze as having 3 "true" phenomenal albums with the genre spilling and bleeding everywhere and having it's characteristics be a part of many other great albums.
What I'm trying to say is. Just accept that shoegaze itself has only a handful of excellent albums. If you like the sounds of the genre then there is a lot of stuff which shares characteristics with is or was influenced by it in some way that you are also gonna like and is great.
For example someone who loves Souvlaki is might like slowcore, I do, I'm getting into the genre now because of shoegaze. If you like metal you are probably gonna love Alcest and The Angelic Process, these don't really sound like Souvlaki, Loveless or Nowhere but the influence is clear.
Then again I could be talking out my ass.
Did anyone buy this? I consider myself to know some shoegaze, but this has a ton of obscure shit I've never heard of. Thoughts?
>>62587427
looks interesting but ive never heard of it
The man known to be the creative genius behind Sweet Trip changed his Soundcloud to SWT TRP and uploaded a new song.
https://soundcloud.com/wotf/multiply-12b
>>62587427
Read the Pitchfork write up, seems interesting enough, but I wouldn't buy it since the proceeds likely don't go straight to the artists
Any good releases from this year yet?
And what are the best from last?
>>62588197
This is the best news I've heard all year
>>62588214
I could just put a mega up if anyone else is interested later.
>>62588322
I'd appreciate that
I don't browse these threads, but what are your top 5 shoegaze records?
>>62588379
whirr - distressor
whirr - pipe dreams
whirr - sway
nothing - guilty of everything
my bloody valentine - loveless
>>62588379
pinkshinyultrablast
Velocity : Design : Comfort
You Made Me Realise
Flying Saucer Attack
bloweyelashwish
>>62588559
>Velocity : Design : Comfort
is that really considered shoegaze
>>62588641
on RYM and Wikipedia it is.
>>62588472
Why do you like sway so much I think it's their weakest work?
>>62589091
sway is waaay better than pipe dreams though
>>62588641
Yes
>>62588379
MBV- Loveless
Slowdive - Souvlaki
Ride - Going Blank Again
Whirr - Sway
LSD and the Search for God - s/t
>>62589194
I'm not the guy you replied to, but how so?
>>62589654
Fuck I meant Distressor instead of Sway
>>62589678
pipe dreams sounds as pedestrian shoegaze as you can possibly get
sway is much heavier so it almost plays like a sludge album
like thou or something. at least it has that uniqueness to it
>>62575484
Listening to Merzbow's Pulse Demon rn... not sure what to think
>>62588197
Oh shit.
Dats tite.
Real good music.
Any bands similar to the sound of Kevin Shields - City Girl?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-JQe3f6tc0
like a mellow, softer sound?
>>62588197
They better revive dream pop liked i always thought they would.
>loveless
>good
>falling for this meme
>>62575392
Pic related is pretty happy, blissful, and destructively noisy. I'd be surprised if it wasn't already posted above.
>>62578775
Fairly true. There are some stunningly good and lesser popular albums as well though. Luckily for me, I didn't like Loveless much at first, save the track "Sometimes". I liked Slowdive though and slowly got into noisier music, and began to appreciate the dreamy, often female vocals, tried Loveless and it's become a literal obsession of mine ever since. My favorite album of all time.
>>62577987
Doesn't really sound like C&C but Mesmerise by Chapterhouse has a pretty summery/tropical feel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2KlmrO0YK0
Somebody tell me what subgenre this is plz
>>62588322
Yes I would like that very much thank you
>>62588197
hype desu
Rocketship - A certain smile, a certain sadness.
>>62590919
no real reason why pulse demon is in a shoegaze chart, but they're both noisy.
>>62590919
Yeah it's not shoegaze. Like at all.
>>62602902
I think it's just as a joke
>>62578775
>>62582667
I'm glad this happened to me, because it's true, I started with bands like Chapterhouse, Astrobrite, Adorable, The Telescopes, Cocteau Twins, The Boo Radleys, Swirl and others of the like. Older bands but bands that didn't have the heavy shoegaze sound down, except for Astrobrite, I treated them as my MBV, completely surprised/blown away that they were not the hottest shit ever. I avoided MBV out the misconception that they were Bullet for My Valentine. Every time I saw them recommended I was a little confused, but I was younger, had lastfm and didn't know about 4chan. So when I did listen to Loveless it blew my mind.
Started when I watched the movie Hard Candy and loved Elephant Women by Blond Redhead, where last.fm recs lead me to shoegaze. I love the internet.
This was one of my favorites https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F83K3NSpKgI
I asked this recently but never came back and checked the thread for any answers, so sorry to ask again.
I remember there used to be videos on youtube of a guy discussing Shoegaze, he talked about it form his eyes at the time of bands like Slowdive and MBV releasing music. He was outside in the snow for a portion of it. I also recall he was a popular music blogger/vlogger/reviewer or whatever, I only knew him for the Shoegaze videos tho. I think they were removed, does anyone know why? Or where I could see them?
>>62593629
Check out Fleeting Joys, maybe. I've only listened to a few tracks so far.
>>62604015
Sounds familiar. I'll look a bit. Hope somebody can find it.
>>62604015
Did he happen to be an older black dude?
>>62604015
>>62604750
Funny, I was just watching him a day ago.
I'm this poster >>62604628
Should've mentioned him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1cM9Kq0qEM
>>62604015
Why, familia... I got you covered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHL4J6YRCtk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5RqeQaRuvA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R27N92OOzmI
>>62604838
I think Ott's the best critic even though he has shit taste.
>>62603661
>I avoided MBV out the misconception that they were Bullet for My Valentine.
man u crazy
>>62578015
what does /shugazi/ think of Painting With?
Top ten GOAT shugazi tunes. Super underrated band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69PCTliwNSo
>>62606380
Childlike music for people who don't have accurate memories of childhood. Anco is often interesting, but emotionally bankrupt.
>>62588322
Yes please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCSsZg0mVHk
What do you think is some of the darkest shoegaze, either musically or lyrically or both? Is there a chart I'm unaware of?
>>62588379
Curve - Doppelganger
Lilys - In The Presence of Nothing
Ride - Going Blank Again
Tokyo Shoegazer - Crystalize
Slowdive - Souvlaki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYuJReSt4Yw
BAM
Which one is the shlohmo track with the shoegaze textures? Thanks in advance.
>>62588379
Smiling Disease - Beach Bodies
MBV - Loveless
Slowdive - Pygmalion
True Widow - As high...
Cocteau Twins - Treasure
>>62600434
Loveless is really good though. I wouldn't consider it the best shoegaze album by a mile but it's hard to see how anyone that likes the genre could somehow not enjoy that album.
>>62588379
Ride - Going Blank Again
Asobi Seksu - Citrus
Deerhunter - Cryptograms
Ride - Nowhere
Slowdive - Pygmalion
>>62609115
>replying to this meme
>>62608161
i wish all of coaltar of the deepers sounded like this. where to start in their discography for the most similar sound? not really interested in their chiptuney tracks
>>62588379
Swirlies - They Spent Their Wild Youthful Days...
Whirr - Sway
Swirlies - Blonder Tongue Audio Baton
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
True Widow - Circumambulation
>>62606713
>emotionally bankrupt
I would beg to differ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ytPNb75Ho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiGI_UsWcWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSmuzEzeAeY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGMfR3pclp4
>>62612738
This guy knows his gaze.
>>62613130
Except Whirr is trash.
>>62575392
there's this band from my hometown called Mayfair. If you like Whirr, you'll enjoy them
https://ozona.bandcamp.com/album/the-ability-to-dream
>>62613209
:^)
Just came across this, sounds pretty nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caruzKm1-xY
>>62613491
I mean, you've got to be at least good musicians if you are going to be shitty people, but they don't even have that going for them, so what is there to like?
>>62613690
:^)
>>62588379
Slowdive - Souvlaki
The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy (I'm counting it as shoegaze for this)
Whirr - Distressor
Flying Saucer Attack - s/t
LSD and the Search for God - s/t
>>62588379
Ride - Going Blank Again
MBV - Loveless
MBV - mbv
Chapterhouse - Whirlpool
A Sunny Day in Glasgow - Sea When Absent
any suggestions for someone who really liked lsd and the search for god?
>>62584956
For me it's hard for a shoegaze album to be bad and not enjoyable. If they're branching off the main 3 then I'll probably love it. Sure there's some not very good albums out there but generally they're listenable and nice.
But then again there's stuff like Asobi Sekusu that sounds completely different and has it's own sound. Japanese shoegaze generally has it's own style and is much different from the typical kind that just takes from loveless.
Shojoskip, mikgazer, Kinoko Teikoku, wintermute, my dead girlfriend, plastic girl in closet, whoo There's tons of stuff by them that's great. Koreans bands too. While maybe not all those are strickly shoegaze they are still part of the genre.
>>62588379
These aren't in any particular order and this is just off the top of my head.
mikgazer
MBV - Loveless
Asobi Sekusu - s/t
kinoko teikoku - ロンググッドバイ
Shojoskip - Cosodorokitsune
>>62615497
Lovesliescrushing
>>62615497
Flying Saucer Attack
Who's excited for the new Sound of Ceres (formerly Candy Claws) album?
The two songs they've released so far are fantastic.
>>62617358
I'm not super hyped in it or anything, (I'm not the hugest CC fan, I just haven't listened to them enough) but yeah, I plan on listening to it as soon as it comes out also seeing them live.
>>62617358
I didn't hear either of the two songs yet. I guess I wasn't keeping up. I only heard one of their songs on an episode of Off the Air.
>>62576094
>>62577510
never really listened to anything behond his spacemen 3 project, but i'll check it out!
>>62612738
>Whirr - Sway
Only Distressor and Around are worthwhile though.
>>62606449
I read somewhere that the dude from this band is like a superstar in Russia or wherever he came from. Like he's in Levi's commercials and makes film scores shit.
>>62618473
Listen to Soul Kiss (Glide Divine)
>>62619054
i am right now. i'm not too into the meandering spaced out parts, although they were to be expected. reminds me of stereolab, but that's not really my preferred type of gaze. sweet running water playing right now and it reminds me of brian jonestown massacre in a good way.
>>62615497
I recommended this >>62604237 to somebody else, and I just actually fully listened to it. You may like it. They don't sound very similar, but few parts really reminded me of LSDATSFG.
>>62613600
nice, in the same vein as deerhunter and beach fossils
I'm going through >>62575484 right now, or at least the albums I haven't heard yet
I think I'd have picked up shoegaze earlier if I hadn't mixed up mbv with bullet for my valentine. Fucking stupid
>>62622637
SAME
Also that one good charlotte song
>>62622739
what song and what does it have to do with shoegaze?
>>62623740
Nothing, it's just named My Bloody Valentine
what do you think the total population of shogaze fans are ? like 1,000 ?
like if you do a decent shoegaze album, you'd probably get like 500 likes on youtube right
>>62624416
oh
don't name bands after movies
>>62624485
How popular is a 'decent' shoegaze album? You could release the best album ever and have no one find out about it, you know.
>>62587427
I'm back. The file is 782 mb.
>Still In A Dream - The Story Of Shoegaze
>A massive compilation of 87 classic shoegaze bands from 1988 to 1995
>covers just about every sub-genre
>highly recommended to any shoegaze fan, especially newcomers
>https://mega.nz/#!FYIiwRQS!zUevpMn2e2Y0zcWtC__Gu7CHpx7-PjtprGjjFok2ODE
hope you guys can read this tracklist, it's the only one I could find...
>>62624928
found a better pic
>>62624928
some of these bands have less than 5,000 listeners on last.fm
>>62624928
>87 classic shoegaze bands
I never thought there were that many classic shoegaze bands.
>>62625433
They seem to be taking a pretty liberal approach to what counts as shoegaze. There's dream pop, ethereal wave, space rock, noise pop and slowcore all mixed in with the actual shoegaze. I guess they're related genres, though it still kind of tweaks my tism.
>>62625676
That actually sounds way cooler than just a 'pure' shoegaze comp imo.
>>62624928
Bless you
>>62624490
Kevin was unaware of the film for quite a while after the name was suggested, and he actually wanted to change the name, but just as he was planning to change it, they signed with Creation and it just kinda stuck, and they learned to love the name.
>>62624485
>like 1,000
LOL, WAY more than that. It's a relatively known genre, even outside of /mu/ and is decades old.
And yeah, it's perfectly reasonable to get 500 likes, but it depends. Get your name out there and you could get thousands. Put it on bandcamp for purchase. If you don't share it at all, you'd get less than a hundred for years probably.
Anyone heard this?
>p.nice
>>62575392
Seriously though, how the hell do I get that To Here Knows When type sound from the record? You can't even hear the strumming, it's just a long, smooth noise.
How?
>>62626697
How many pedals are you using anon?
>>62589709
>>62589654
I like this list fâm. In fact, I think I would've said the same. I'd prolly swap Distressor for Heaven or Las Vegas but Distressor is definitely up there.
>>62575484
I'm in the mood to buy some music. Rec me up, /shugazi/.
Favorites:
Loveless (duh)
Fell Asleep EP
Ujubasajuba
Sunbather
Bloom
Yuck
LSD and the Search for God
Yo where do you'll buy your shugazi merch? I really wanna cop Souvlaki and other classics on vinyl but my local record stores don't have them and they're about $50 online. I can only get Loveless and Heaven or Las Vegas for cheap... Also, w2c shugazi shirts? I found some cool ones on ebay but they're bootleg merch.
>>62627890
>Nightblooms
>A.R. Kane
>Velocity Girl
>>62575392
i like turnover and title fight. people say there new albums had some shoegaze aspects so where should i go next.
>>62628285
Obviously→ Nothing - Guilty of Everything
If you like Nothing you'll like Whirr (based band). Maybe you could try Pity Sex. All of which are nu-gaze bands.
>>62628725
>nu-gaze
I really fucking hate this name. It sounds like a deragatory off-shoot of shoegaze.
>>62628782
sorry, just wanted to say that they're relatively new bands.
>>62628782
>>62628725
This. Nu-gaze is too close to nu metal, which is almost universally considered a garbage genre.
More like...
Sweet Trip
Asobi Seksu
Beach House
>Optional: Yo La Tengo
>>62629034
rene hell - vanilla call option is great
>>62629079
Cop'd thanks :^)
>>62629136
np i like to help people in need
>>62628829
The name being similar to Nu-metal isn't what bothers me desu, just the name in general
>>62627966
tfw no shugazi merch
tfw canadian dollar sucks
tfw crazy ass shipping costs.
>>62588379
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Sweet Trip - Velocity:Design:Comfort
LSD and the Search for God - s/t
Asobi Seksu - Citrus
MASS OF THE FERMENTING DREGS - s/t
>>62627966
You have to play the waiting game on Discogs for a well priced LP.
I usually buy shirts when I go to shugazi shows. Try their official sites.
Are there any shoegaze releases to look out for this year?
>>62627966
tBh I don't have an issue with buying bootleg shirts
Am I wrong for this?
>>62632759
New Nothing, I think
>>62626697
Yamaha SPX90.
I may make a cover, and other than the guitar (I have no real reverb yet), and the synth sounding samples, it sounds excellent.
I think I found the EXACT BBC sample sounds that Kevin used in the song to produce that low frequency rumble.
http://tapeop.com/articles/26/my-bloody-valentine-2/
I'm the guy who said I bought one in the last thread. It'll be here Friday.
You can use other reverb pedals/rack effects as well. Check this out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXuvDRSwN8
>>62632759
New Slowdive should be out this year.
What does shugazi think of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oScRBsOV6I
>>62575652
Really liking that Candy Claws album.
