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Hey. Reposting from last thread, since it was dying and no one answered:
Would like some opinions on this. I posted something on another /prod/ thread about 5 months ago just when I was starting to learn how to produce. I'm still learning, but I've gotten much better.
https://clyp.it/m0ngjrnh
>>62548974
the sample and the drums seem a little out of time at points, also that synth or whatever it is that comes in seems to clash tonally with the rest of the song
nice king krule sample though
>>62549759
Cool you recognized it. The "synth" is a part of the song too, at the 2:40 mark.
i'm just getting into sidechaining samples to synthesizers (or the other way around?) so that as the sound of the sample rises then it causes the synth to do so as well. you can get some really crazy sounds with this. I know that tim hecker uses this method but if anyone can give any other examples of artists who do it or any key tips about it then that would be highly appreciated.
How the fuck do you automate one entire pattern in fl studio?
Goddamn this shit is retarded. Shit should be so simple to do fucks sake
>>62550335
Automate what? Articulate your problem clearly.
>>62550335
go watch a shitton of tutorials on youtube or just read the goddamn manual before you ask how to do the most simple things in fl
>>62550387
i don't think he even knows
>>62550334
Everyone uses sidechain compression.
>>62550335
Which parameter do you wanna automate?
>>62550430
>Everyone uses sidechain compression
but almost always to make a kick stick out in the mix or something simple like that. i'm looking for artists using sidechain compression with ambient samples and so on
>>62550387
>>62550424
>>62550430
AN ENTIRE PATTERN.
1 entire pattern as in adding automation to the collection of tracks that make up the pattern i am trying to automate.
q to all- where did you learn the most about producing and what would you recomend to learn first
>>62550493
Not true. Mild sidechain compression is a tool everyone who mixes their own stuff has to use.
>>62550570
Make a bus?
>>62550581
Equipboard. Look up your favorite artists, go to each plugin and watch all the interviews or studio sessions or whatever. But most of all, experimentation and fucking around.
Só y'know those guys how go there and produce weird noises with their laptops?
I want'o know how to make EAI, I mean, which programa are better for this type of thing
>>62550660
Any DAW should get the job done. Look at either FL Studio or Ableton. However you're gonna need to invest on some external plugins. FL's native ones tho are fine af.
https://clyp.it/rli20rn3
This is very much a work in progress. I tried writing the song before picking the sounds this time, but I don't think it works that well. It was worth the try.
At the point you're hearing, I'm still picking sounds. The most obvious is that I'm still lacking a good sabi.
Anyway, enjoy.
>>62550570
Dude what
I've been producing for 6 months now and have an experimental style of producing, I dont use samples in my work at all. My DAW of choice is Ableton live Suite 9, I also use a Akai Professional MPK Mini Mk II Controller to perform.
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I'm working on an album right now here is a demo track that I am working on, that may or may not make it on the final cut of the album.
https://soundcloud.com/jh-yes/transparent
Feedback is always welcome, love hearing what you guys have to say.
>>62550965
We appreciate it if you can use clyp.it to upload, rather than Soundcloud so we can keep the thread cleaner of people who dump their sounds just increase their listen count without contributing. Because admit it, there are a lot of fags out there who drop messages with links like you just did without ever returning or replying. Just be a good sport and use clyp.it.
>>62550965
>>62550965
>OPN and aphex comparisons in the comments
>>62551132
clyp it or zip it is a good catchphrase
>>62551257
no it isn't, the rule in the op is fine
>>62551257
i prefer "clyp it or fuck off" or "clyp it or fuck off you stupid cunt nigger"
>>62550965
Listen dude, your music is great, but refer to the OP. Failing that, the unwritten rule of /prod/ is: "We want your music, but we don't want you"
>>62550965
>>62551055
Doesn't look like he's replying, so I guess you proved your point.
Here's a WIP in a style that I'm not very familiar with
https://clyp.it/dvxy4lsm
>>62550570
I'm also no sure what you're saying, but do you mean like using Edit Events instead of an automation clip?
posting from the last thread. i've lost control of my life.
https://clyp.it/04zwemv0
>>62550749
that shit's real fuckin kawaii man. your lead that comes in at 10 is a touch too loud, but other than that it cooks
>>62550660
try Max out. it can be super rewarding once you've learned it. failing that, find a plugin with a bunch of LFOs and go crazy with modulation
>>62552082
>that shit's real fuckin kawaii man. your lead that comes in at 10 is a touch too loud, but other than that it cooks
Haha, thanks, man. That's pretty encouraging considering I haven't even started mixing. Kawaii is exactly what I'm going for.
>>62552082
Sorry to ask but what is that "Max out"?
I can't find anything about it
>>62552210
It's just Max, sorry about that!
https://cycling74.com/
>>62550335
>>62550570
>>62552210
>>62552335
Oh, and Pure Data is the free alternative, many of the same principals and invented by the same person.
https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended
>>62552383
That one looks a lot better to me coz I use Linux
Thank you very much.
>>62550335
>Hitler
>a bad leader
I guess he fucked up in the end, but still pick one.
>>62551912
Oh sorry Didnt even realize ill do it next time.. my bad !!!!
https://soundcloud.com/user-916033402-713111775/guillotine-arrmageddon
Don't reply.
>>62552718
are you seriously fondling my scrotum right now?
Do you tune your snare?
I started tuning my snares lately and my tracks just sound so much better now that my drums fit in them.
>>62551248
Who is OPN and Aphex ??
>>62552940
Lol no why?
Do you tune your kicks and hats?
>>62552940
I've never knowingly tuned my drums. I don't know why you would tune what is (most of the time) essentially just white noise with other bits thrown in.
Same for kicks; it's just a frequency sweep. Why would I tune that?
>>62552990
heh, you don't?
>>62552940
Depends, it all has to do with context.
>>62553018
>essentially just white noise
Well, in trap or dubstep (pls don't kill me, just the two first examples that come to mind), there's these reaaaally resonant snares that actually have a tonality.
>>62552990
I highpass my kicks and klayer them with a sine wave.
I don't want phasing in the low end.
Bad example because there's no sidechaining
puu sh/n8d0F/2e8fd149f1 ogg
>>62553018
>essentially just white noise with other bits thrown in
Real drummers tune their snares, so why shouldn't producers who make music on the computer?
Of course, it depends on the genre and the track.
>>62552940
depends on the sample. if the decay is quick enough to where you can't hear the tone of the snare then there's no point.
>>62551757
But this thread is for people who can buy cigarettes legally
>>62551796
Thanks!! ill remember for next time to uuse the proper format to keep it about the music.
>>62551055
Will do!
>>62552082
This is really great, where's the sample at the start from.
I live in tthe mountains near the sea and I want to get into field recording because so far I've only used crappy 128kbps mp3s from SoundCloud.
What's a good recorder for under $200-240?
I don't care about battery life.
>>62554539
Sony PCM M10
You can turn the sensitivity all the way up on it and it'll pick up really weird shit, must have if you ask me. I know it's cheap as shit but it's pretty amazing desu senpai.
>>62554692
Hmm... The price is too high for me.
Also, I want to be able to plug it into my computer so I can record directly into Audacity or FL Studio.
>>62553735
>tfw your 18+ but you can't buy cigarettes
>>62554840
Oh damn, it's close to your pricerange and it has amazing capabilities. It does include USB tho.
So /prod/, what are your favorites for effect VSTs? Bundled effects are generally eh in my opinion, and I want to start branching out.
>reverb
>delay
>distortion
>equalization
>phaser/flanger
>resonator
>>62555123
>Reverb
The ArtsAcoustic One, also kinda dig Ableton's native one.
>Delay
Fab-Filter Timeless
>Distortion
Tough one, iZotope Trash and Ohmicide are two of my favorites tho.
>Equalization
Fab-Filter Pro-Q 2
>Phaser/Flanger
Ableton's phaser is pretty solid desu senpai, as well as the flanger, but I love IL Flangus too
>Resonator
Ableton's native one does the job, tho I almost never use resonators.
Wolves
Best synth for large, lush pads? Also, is it impossible to get Alchemy now that apple has bought it?
[spoiler]Do I have to sail the high seas for it?[/spoiler]
>>62555239
Much appreciated
>>62555571
I pirated the SuperWave P80 and I'm liking it for pad work, but you have to work at it to get away from a very trance-y sound.
>>62555073
Yeah... Did a bit of googling and these are my options, sorted with the cheapest last
>TASCAM DR-40
>Roland R-05
>Olympus LS-14
>TASCAM DR-05
>Zoom H4N
They all have very similar price.
I'll do some more research.
>>62555123
>reverb
Valhalla VintageVerb. I use Valhalla Room sometimes as well, and the Fruity Convolver-
>delay
Image-Line's Delay 2 or Delay Bank.
I haven't really tried anything else.
>distortion
Ohmicide is pretty cool, but I always use Image-Line's Waveshaper with some EQing and routing.
>equalization
Fab-Filter Pro-Q 2, though I use Image-Line's Parametic EQ 2 for when I want to do automations.
>phaser/flanger
Image-Line's Phaser and Flangus
>resonator
I do that manually.
>>62555571
>Best synth for large, lush pads?
Any synth as long as they have more than one oscillator, detune and envelope controls.
>>62555647
I'm looking for lush, crystal-like icy pads, not really detuned saws washed with reverb and LP filters. I guess additive or FM should do it?
>>62555571
Get Omnisphere.
>>62555696
Tascam is a pretty obvious choice desu.
>>62552976
>>62555716
Yeah.
I use Harmor for pads like that.
I think SeamlessR has a tutorial on it.
Maybe it's in one of his How To Synth videos... Or maybe it was in his 75k series, which in that case it'd be pretty hard to find, though it was a recent one.
>>62555123
>reverb
exponential audio R2
>delay
Soundtoys EchoBoy
>distortion
Soundtoys Decapitator
>equalization
Brainworx Hybrid
>phaser/flanger
Soundtoys PhaseMistress
>resonator
I don't use that
>>62555800
>$499
Man..
>>62550570
https://clyp.it/httbvx4u
FL 11
i'm well aware that there are a bunch of problems with the snares and some volume stuff and the horns etc
if there's anything obvious that i could be doing it would be great if you could point it out or recommend anything
>>62555971
>>$499
Unless you're a well-off musician who has money, you can just pirate it.
>>62550581
>where did you learn the most about producing
The reference manual
University was also pretty decent, but by that time I had already been producing for 10 years, so mostly stuff I already knew on the production side. Picked up some nice EQ tricks through.
>>62556106
I think I might, but omnisphere is a rompler isn't it? My crappy laptop doesn't have enough space, I'm leaning more towards synths and stuff.
I'm using synth1 now mainly, it works nice for warm pads but I struggle to get crystal sounding stuff with it. I'm going to try out dexed.
I remember when I used to pirate FL, there was this plug in called Morphine that I really liked. I wonder if there's anything like that out there?
>>62554179
Hey thanks. Totally a joke track though. Sample is from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vs55Z7t7bk
Posted this track earlier without the mixing. The kick in the beginning was fucking up big time.
I've done some mixing now and i think it sounds okay. Any opinions on this?
https://clyp.it/czlenmfc
>>62555123
>reverb
Not really a connoisseur. Valhalla VintageVerb and Ableton's built-in reverb have always worked well.
>delay
Valhalla FreqEcho without a doubt.
>distortion
Face Bender. It's pretty shitty but I love it.
>equalization
Really a preamp but Lindell 6X-500.
>phaser/flanger
Korg's MDE-X has some good ones
>resonator
Ain't got one
>>62555123
>reverb
valhalla room and vintage verb, psp pianoverb, korg mde-x is decent too
>delay
i usually just use the built in ones or plug and mix's echoflex
>distortion
the various plug and mix ones, fabfilter saturn, korg mde-x, ableton's built in
>equalization
pro-q and built in
>phaser/flanger
plug and mix, korg mde-x,
>resonator
never use them
>>62557503
also, although i always forget about them, the kontakt effects are pretty good too
Hey senpai I'd like to get start making some r&b anyone with experience know any tutorials that I should peep? I have some very limited experience with fl studio so I imagine that's what I'll be using. So if it's a more universal tutorial I'd appreciate that too. Anything that'd put me in the right direction of just becoming a good producer.
I know some music theory by virtue of playing the guitar and piano to a less than spectacular degree. I've just gotten tired of writing sappy white guy on guitar songs.
hope I'm not a faggot for asking :(
>>62555123
>>reverb
Lexicon PCM
>>delay
Absynth and reaktor
>>distortion
Trash 2
>>equalization
Pro-Q 2
>>phaser/flanger
Don't rly use
>>resonator
Absynth
