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>>62525842
>100 kanye west threads with shitty album art
>0 replies in classical thread
wow /mu/ just keeps getting more pleb
>>62526291
They can listen to Kanye if they choose. I just hate when they come to our threads and post fedoras for no reason. If you don't like classical then just don't shite up the thread. BTW this is what I'm listening to at the moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bganS0KBsEY
>>62525842
Nice fingers
Hey lads I found this the other day and I adored it. Any more like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4XEPdYO5mM&list=PLl8nb1uP97jCDBJzaye9gmLvSVqfl3qdx&index=40
>>62528051
How about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMM6h9Yf348
anyone ever listen to celibadache's bruckner cycle? wicked slow tempi, yet sustained momentum. really extreme yet fitting rendition of bruckner's cathedrals of sound.
pic related, my favorite
>tfw no Bach cantata for today
What composition do I play for my Valentine
>>62530005
>listening to figural music during Lent
>>62530043
Play her that new yeezy, fám
>>62529984
I don't know how anyone can listen to Celi Bruckner. I appreciate the 'cathedral of sound' stuff but it just sounds ridiculous if you've ever listened to almost any other Bruckner recording before.
I can't get more than 10 seconds into the Te Deum without laughing because it sounds absurd
>>62529984
yeah once and never again. better than karajan tho
>>62530043
>>62530069
Or this classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOkfsD7nqaU
>>62529984
he has some recordings that were released on DG that are far more reasonable, and there are even some movements where he takes faster-than-norm tempo
for example, much of the scherzi on those recordings are faster than norm. late celibidache is still interesting for the balancing choices that he makes, which i always find unique, but other than that i personally don't get much out of it.
you can listen to his earlier recordings though and still get those interesting balances but without the absurdly slow tempi.
>tfw singing the Easter Oratorio in the Thomaskirche on Easter Sunday
Literally counting down the days lads
>>62530056
What should I listen to instead?
>>62530092
the only reason i feel it "works" is because its literally just chords and intervals of harmony at those tempi, and you're just listening to the beauty of instruments rather than what bruckner envisioned
>>62530177
those were his younger years basically. same shit happened with gould and pogorelich where they obsessed over particular aspects of the music as they got older
>>62530250
>>62526674
This is one of them >>62529607.
> Post classical and discuss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Eo0zP8eFc
>>62530104
yeah i have karajan's cycle as well, and enjoy both for what they are. i'll take karajan for the 4th, easily.
i find that the adagios in particular are incredible with his skillfully slow tempo, at moments becoming so atmospheric and ambient-like. if one is into that then it can such an experience.
>>62528525
>>62528525
How about Schubutt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw_MmO1C2O4
>>62530219
Good luck. I'd love to sing in an Opera or mass.
btw what's up with the Strad featuring the cellist gautier capucon so much? I tried listening to some vivaldi cello concertos with him playing but it's unlistenable because he starts breathing like he's jerking it outside a girl's bathroom window,
>>62526291
>>62526674
People only pretend to like Kanye West because he's black and they don't want to look racist
>>62528525
Eh, it's nice but I'm looking for something emotionally charged
>>62530043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3MqFP0-ekU
A perfect piece for telling your partner that the flesh is real, entropy is irreversible, and regardless of what happens before or after it, DEATH is the royal thresher all things must yield to.
>>62530043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ze_WFHBBo
>>62530043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m09a7pF-vEc
>>62533614
lieder yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNfJqRH0OgM
>>62525842
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bganS0KBsEY
Shostakóvich #9
>>62533869
9th symphony?
>Doch unsre Liebe, heisst sie nicht TRISTAN UND ISOLDE™?
What did he mean by this?
>>62534509
>>62534509
Wagner is one handsome man. Should have lost the beard though.
Just listened to all of Bartók's quartets simultaneously. It works out surprisingly well. I'm going to upload it this afternoon.
What's your favorite movement in a string quartet?
Mine is the Second movement of Ravel's Quartet in F Major.
https://youtu.be/ky5-NA3dEEE?t=7m38s
>>62534509
He meant, he couldn't speak any other languages than German.
Why is the clarinet the greatest of all the wind instruments?
>>62534819
Because it's the least whiny sounding.
>>62533668
Holy Shit.
Is that Leonardo DiCaprio?
>>62534887
kek
>>62534758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKMfyCD-pH0
Who is the Kanye of classical music? I'd vote Beethoven.
Who /Messiaen/ here?
His organ works are incredible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYzv9JxHzB4
>>62537309
Max Richter.
>>62537354
Probably my favorite 20thc composer.
>>62529984
I'm addicted to Celi's Bruckner. Number 4 on EMI with the Munich Philharmonic is my fav. You just can't top that coda.
https://youtu.be/zB3kbUl1vog?t=22m55s
>>62537309
> Baithoven
>>62538436
a like it a little faster myself :)
>>62538485
>>62538704
Who does Bruckner fast? Is Skrowaczewski good?
I only listen to Bach's organ music, I don't like much of anything else. Is that a personal problem or what?
>>62539064
It is more of a problem for your neighbours
hit me up with some gregorian chants
>>62539085
heh, well hopefully it's better than blasting loud bass heavy music. Anyway, I'm going to copy and paste my favorites.
Favorites chorales include: 639(Solaris theme), 684, 645, 669 I rate 540 over 565 when it comes to the Toccata and Fugues, it is probably my favorite work. Some others favorites: Prelude and Fugue 532; Passacaglia and Fugue 582; Toccata, Adagio & Fuga 564
>>62538978
He's a bit slow himself. Try Rogner if you're talking about stereo recordings. Petre too, I guess? Though I don't think he is as fast as Rogner. When it comes to mono recordings though, just about everyone played him significantly faster than what is played today. On average, at least.
>>62539543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NGTsdL2YzE
>>62539543
That's the most boring kind of music.
>>62540447
Not true, by the way.
Why is Jeunehomme so good
>>62539599
Rogner is faster. Pretre is faster but not fastest, and its probably my favorite rendering of the symphony in modern sound. but i also recommend kubelik, matacic for modern sound recordings.
>>62540447
T. Peasant
>>62540618
Is true.
>>62540859
You didn't even do the retarded meme correctly.
>>62540702
Haven't heard Kubelik in most stuff, but people keep telling me to listen to him. I have heard the Matacic and love it though.
>>62534021
That's it
>>62530828
>i'll take karajan for the 4th, easily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9DoLPZfm5g#t=1m40s
This right here. Octave shifted violins and elephantine tenuto brass. This is not okay.
>>62540702
>those droll winds on those Czech/Matacic recordings
>>62541051
kubelik is really one of the more versatile and tasteful conductors, in my view
>>62541051
truth be told i dont love kubelik in the 4th but his recordings of it with the vpo and brso are absolutely fine to me with very great playing, as opposed to klemps whose conception of the piece i like but didnt have the best recording take with the philharmonia orchestra in stereo. (better served from his mono recordings with vso and koln)
>>62542028
My favorite 4th is pretty much Andreae, very good mono, fast but also a lot more flexible than VSO/Cologne Klemperer
where to start with britten?
>>62542181
War Requiem, maybe.
>>62542173
if we're talking about favorites of all bruckner 4ths i'd have to put kabasta on top of my list. but actually one of the reasons why i really like klemps 4ths is the inflexibility of the phrases, almost a overserious, military feel to the rhythms.
>>62542367
That's what I really like about those recordings though, with VSO>Cologne>PO as the order of preference
>>62542407
theres also a concertgebouw recording from 1947
>>62542181
>Operas
Peter Grimes (start here)
Albert Herring (if you're depressed after Peter Grimes)
Billy Budd (my personal favourite; listen if you want more depressing stuff after Peter Grimes)
Turn of the Screw (funky, psychological)
Owen Wingrave
>Orchestral
A Time there Was (pleasant piece, a Folk Song Suite like VW's but slightly less saccharine)
Young Person's Guide (cause it's cute)
Piano Concerto
Violin Concerto
>Song cycle stuff
On This Island
Les Illuminations
Serenade
Nocturne
Holy Sonnets of John Donne
Seven Sonnets of Michelangelo
Canticles
Winter Words
>Choral
War Requiem (Britten's finest piece, do a bit of reading about it before listening to get a sense of what he's doing)
Hymn to the Virgin
A.M.D.G
A Ceremony of Carols
A Hymn to St. Cecilia
Rejoice in the Lamb
>Chamber
Lachrymae
Cello Sonata+Suites
Six Metamorphoses after Ovid
There are probably a few other chamber pieces worth checking out, but my knowledge of Britten is mostly of his vocal stuff.
>>62542356
>>62542554
Do you have any recs for a specific recording of war requiem?
>>62542716
Britten himself, probably.
>>62542728
yeah I guess that would be the obvious choice. lol Anyway thanks for the help esp. this post >>62542554 Love the informed replies you can get in these threads.
>>62542716
The Britten-conducted one with Vishnevskaya, Pears and Fischer-Dieskau is pretty authoritative (since it's him conducting the three soloists he wrote the music for) but also worth checking out is the CBSO/Nelsons DVD recording from 2012 in Coventry Cathedral, a 50th anniversary performance of the premiere in the same setting and played by the 'same' orchestra who did it in 1962.
Otherwise the 2011 LSO/Noseda is pretty popular, although it's not my favourite. I think there's a more recent one with Pappano and Orchestra di Santa Cecilia with a pretty all-star soloist line-up, but I've not heard it so can't comment.
I've also got a recording of the CBSO/Nelsons performance from the Proms a couple of years ago which is mainly for sentimental reasons since I was singing in the choir.
>>62542367
Haven't heard of Kabasta before.
>>62538485
Bangtoven
>>62535020
Why did Beethoven hate the human ear so much?
What are your favorite performances of Bach's cantatas?
>>62544237
I just keep Suzuki's complete recording on hand for easy of access, currently doing a listen-through according to the Lutheran Calendar so once I've done all of them, I'll start looking for alternate recordings to compare and contrast
>>62544237
And also Bach's organ works.
>>62544237
Kuijken or Gardiner
Doing Schroeder's cello studies.
What exactly do these sort of downward-facing brackets above certain groups of notes mean? I've been told that they usually refer to playing on a single string, and for some studies that does seem to work fine, but for others playing the notes under the bracket on only one string would be nonsensical.
>this Scherchen Messiah
wow this is something
>>62545289
What the fuck is happening with this tempi.
It goes between slow as death and shit like 'And He Shall Purify' being taken at about double-speed from anything I've heard before.
How is this called? That baseline, ostinato, rhythm or whatever, I'm illiterate.
Is it a standard thing like the follia?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdcDi5_t3-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK8WuxD6b2g
>>62545702
Ground Bass perhaps?
>>62545595
sounds like scherchen being scherchen and doing what no one else does
Hit me with some late Romantic.
>>62545805
It's a really interesting recording so far. 'He Was Despised' is 15 minutes long... and apparently the final Amen fugue is roughly 3 times longer than most other recordings.
But then you have (as I said) 'And He Shall Purify' going at an incredible pace, and even more impressive is that the choir is hitting it with remarkable accuracy given the speed. Violins sound pretty shit, but the rest of the orchestra are putting out a nice sound. Tenor soloist is incredible, alto soloist is pretty good, soprano is ok and bass is shit.
It's just such a mismatch of really good, really bad and really strange
>>62546081
are you talking about the mono recording or the stereo remake?
>>62546171
The '59 one
>>62546225
there's a '53 one with the London Philharmonic. haven't listened to it myself, but it might be better performed.
as i recall, Scherchen didn't get much rehearsal time with the "VSOO"
>>62545752
Yes, but I was thinking there might be a more specific name for it.
There are many different versions of "O death, rock me asleep" and they all sound more or less like Marin Marais (to me).
>>62546068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npYih1VfWLk
>>62546068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq5nszg04ks
>>62546445
it is better performed on all parts
>>62545138
those could be bowing instructions.
>>62526674
La Fanciulla del West, live. Pretty good so far. Puccini keeps growing on me.
Really want to go to an all-night vigil desu
>>62549531
You can also indicate bowing for a certain sound senpai. Stravinsky did it in the Meme of Spring
death
rotting
Thoughts on Berio?
>>62550861
no shit.
not sure why that picture says otherwise. bowing instructions are common as fuck in most 20th century scores
>>62537354
Messiaen has been a revelation for me this past year. Incredible.
I need more secular Renaissance/Medieval songs senpaitachi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxlwCTOuTSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjzAi9f9PM0
>>62553588
One of my favorites ever.
I recommend his Laborintus II , Visage, La Vera Storia and Sequenza VI for viola .
https://youtu.be/taanHO13WXE
Can I get more like this? Her voice is beautiful, but I can't find out who sang (sung?) it.
>>62556824
This is pretty cool, actual knight music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgpwXnuzlvY
>>62557593
Thanks. Also I never know f.ams filtered to senpaitachi
>>62545805
>>62546081
here's more of scherchen doing the scherchen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srZeJi1U19g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE34RHaIN1o
>>62539543
>>62540447
Try calling this boring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuX6CdKZDLk
What is a good recording for Ligeti's etudes?
>>62558490
been awhile since i heard that 9th, forgot how badly played it was in some parts
>>62559576
the one with the most views on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPa4XAhSYhE
>that smug face
>looking at me saying "What, is it too patrish for you?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVKb3DwPFA8
Dat smug smirk at 40:56
>>62537309
Probably Chopin.
