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>>62032767
God this album is fucking shit
"DUDE REPETITION LMAO"
"DUDE HOLDING ONE NOTE FOR 7 MINUTES LMAO"
ambient is shit apart from the the original makers
not even being a tr0 ambient type of person but its true
>>62032816
It wasn't that great.
>>62032816
>>62032767
these are both awful
>>62032824
ignorant
>not just listening to the real-life ambient sounds your fridge and furnace make as you live alone in a basement browsing /mu/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfbyB9VKJLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyez8QxweSc
>>62032838
>anything i don't like is *insert buzzword here*
Wow good job bro you sure convinced me with those hot opinions
>>62032851
I don't want to convince you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKeSDP4PkEU
>>62032827
Theres two sides to tha tbecause I personally don't enjoy Eno's early ambient works, but I won't pretend my opinion is objective.
>>62032861
I doubt you have the intelligence to do so anyways
>>62032851
I agree with anon, beauty is created repetion and theres nothing wrong with drones. Dismissing an albums worthiness because of it would be ignorant.
>>62032879
by using*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh_TC8j_JkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMsVWLGLwFw this one is abit droney but I love the thunderstorm/rain sounds
>>62032879
There's nothing wrong with either repetition or drone, I enjoy plenty of music containing such elements.
The problem with this record is that fucking repetition is all that it is. Ambient music should be both reptitive and also calming but it needs to have something to make it more than just a synthesizer wankfest. And that's exactly what's wrong with this hunk of shit.
>>62032851
did you seriously make this post after after using "DUDE LMAO" as form of argument
nvm you're trolling
>>62032912
>anything i don't like is trolling
See >>62032910 for a fully fleshed out response.
>>62032910
Not trying to shit on your point, but theres more it it than you think.
"The album features long minimal, droning compositions created from heavily treated guitar, horn, flute, piano, and other classical instruments"
>>62032947
That doesn't stop it from being incredibly dull and boring.
The orchestra is quite obvious throughout the album, the guitar less so but through the fucking endless layers of reverb you can hear it.
The instrumentation used does not stop the album from literally being a soft music dronefest. It literally doesn't even try to make itself interesting, it's so damn boring that someone who just drank cups of coffee after listening to 3 grindcore albums would fall asleep while listening to this within the first fucking disk.
>>62032926
you added more words but you didn't actually explain any of your reasoning
>it needs to have something to make it more than just a synthesizer wankfest. And that's exactly what's wrong with this hunk of shit.
what, exactly? you didn't specify anything
tired sounds isn't even that repetitive compared to a lot of ambient, it has a lot of subtle decoration, kinda harkens back to eno
>>62032970
That's up to the musician to be creative about it. It can be anything really. I'm not an ambient musician so I wouldn't know.
My point is that this record doesn't even try to entertain the listener. It just does its boring crap for 2 hours straight and expects you to go along with it, no explanations included.
>>62032991
let me guess, you also dislike music for airports?
the entire point of ambient is that it's ambient, it doesn't need to go anywhere
>>62032829
literally one of the most realistic atmospheres created by an album
>>62033005
Music for Airports is grossly overrated. I much prefer Another Green World. Music for Airports is tolerable but it's not something I'd go crazy over.
So just because of the genre name it has the right to literally be a wankfest? Why can't it be ambient AND interesting at the same time? Ambient implies its background music, but that doesn't stop it from being entertaining background music. What a lazy excuse to be a shitty uninspired musician.
https://youtu.be/2oN84ggIEFM
Good ambient only pls
>>62033026
I'm beginning to think you don't even like ambient
another green world is just slowed down pop, barely ambient at all
>Why can't it be ambient AND interesting
I think subtle changes in the music and instrumentation can be very interesting, personally. I like the less is more approach to music.
>>62033080
I'm not that big a fan of ambient, I just like some albums in the genre. But the record OP posted was just fucking awful.
There are no fucking subtle changes on that album aside from the occasional bass drone coming in. It's literally, like I said, holding the same note for 5-8 minutes. How exactly do you listen to something like that and go "wow, this is entertaining and doesn't fucking make me want to fall asleep"?
>>62033105
>There are no fucking subtle changes on that album
that's not true at all, try paying attention next time you listen to it
>>62033105
Leave this general. Now.
>>62032767
Best ambient albums for winter? Nights especially.
>>62033122
I was, I was paying attention to the whole thing, waiting for it to suddenly come out and impress me with something I hadn't noticed before. But no, I was left there hanging for two fucking hours. Every now and then there'll be an instrument that comes out to the top of the mix and actually plays some passable chord changes, and once in a while you get some bass drones. But that's it. No interesting textures, no well done sound effects, no entertaining instrumentations, just endless boredom. And really it's quite ironic how it's supposed to be calming music when it just makes you anxious as to when it will start getting interesting.
>>62033133
Make me, you waste of fucking dubs.
What do you guys think of this? Sorry if it's not trve ambient.
https://restyousleepinggiant.bandcamp.com/releases
Here's some of my stuff. Frost is still up for sale on cassette. True to its name, it's some cold wintery music. I performed it live this month and it was a lot of fun. Here's a clip from the show. I forgot my tape loops for the song at home so I had to play it off my phone and add layers with guitar over. It went well except for when I got a notification and it made a beep. I then turned it to airplane mode haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAVS30FMymE
Highly recommended for fans of ambient.
Very surreal and otherworldly.
who else /fuzzambient/ here?
really loud, thick, grainy, fuzzy, huge and monolithic ambient is my jam
for example this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBmITEYut6M
pic related, its how I feel when I listen to my favorite ambient
can give recs, will accept recs too
>>62033154
Mirages by Hecker feel like night to me
for wintery ambient, go to arctic ambient, i.e. any ambient that features snow on the cover and makes you feel hypothermia (Biosphere, Thomas Koner, Sleep Research Facility, Lull)
if you feel your fingers freezing you can try Benoit Pioulard - Sonnet to combat that, its (a)aoty2015 imo and is very summery, lush and garden-y ambient
>>62033105
If you want enternainment in that sense, listen to another genre. Also, there are changes in the album.
>>62033588
I have listened to plenty of genres, I have heard a lot of minimalistic music, but why is "you don't get it man it's SUPPOSED to be boring listen to another genre" an excuse for plain laziness?
>also there are changes in the album
For some reason despite this being your only defense of it I have given more examples of changes in it than you have. Ironic isn't it?
I like this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvBuTYCZ1IY
>>62033167
You just need better headphones
>>62033805
My headphones work with every other genre I listen to, I'm not going to buy a new pair for some fucking retarded ambient garbage.
>>62033823
Every true patrician has at least 3 pairs of headphones. I have 7.
>>62033823
why the hell are you still in this thread. the music is obviously not for you.
>>62033748
not ambient, more like postrock-but-without-drums soundtrack to sob-story movie
to contribute, this album is really fucking tight, unique and varied ambient
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3M37aIdOGw
>>62033362
Right on, man.
Seconding Monolake.
I really like Cinemascope, though not super ambient.
Current favorite. Goes super well with the snowy weather.
>>62033457
this is lovely, more like it?
I like AWVFTS and Tim Hecker a lot but that's really all I listen to. What other ambient should I be looking into?
>>62033851
dank meme friendo
:^) :^) :^) :^) :^)
>>62033875
So because I'm not a spoilt manchild who wastes his money on buying a new pair of headphones just for a shitty album ambient music is not for me?
Try harder.
>>62033969
Thanks. :^)
>>62034045
What is this from?
>>62034118
>>62033902
some of these are really popular and some not, but maybe others will appreciate even the obvious picks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOdlVBidKqc
https://vimeo.com/100673989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRj-ytSIJWU (Ravedeath is thick too but in a different way)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ek8O61ppyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Gr63D3qaE
if its too light go to noisier stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euHoHdpGOa0
or noisier+industrialier stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YJAz4VXBEA
or darker, more atmospheric and ocassionally even metal stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udEzv3gdgcs
thats mostly what I got, hopefully someone else can link more stuff
>>62033969
nah, I wasn't the guy with the headphones, actually I don't think you need some specific headphones for ambient as long as they aren't V-shape sounding, any neutral phones will do, and lets face it, you shouldnt ever buy any non-neutral ones anyway. I'm just saying that I don't see what you're looking to achieve in this thread other than being all around jackass.
>>62034195
I'm not being a jackass, unless stating your own opinion is being a jackass. If anything you've been extremely vague about why this album is good. You've been saying "woah it has variation man" without giving examples of said variation. "i bet you don't even like music for airports fuckign plen", "this genre isn't for u man get out plox" and various other off topic things which still do not prove why this album is good.
If you can't argue your points without resorting to empty insults and vague references then please leave 4chan.
>>62034195
Thanks a lot! Looking forward to checking these out.
>>62032849
Saw him play the backroom of a pub the other month, had some proper lush sounds going on. Seemed like a top bloke too.
>>62034195
Tim Hecker's cool, I really enjoy Ravedeath, and the track you posted is solid.
I'm liking Before Time a lot so far as well.
>>62034381
Also, Yellow Swans is tops.
>>62034242
Man, I don't like Tired Sounds that much either anymore now that I've explored ambient more, its good sleepycore but I prefer my ambient more engaging; you don't see me posting "DUDE REPETITION LMAO" and about how fucking shit it is though. If you wanted reasonable discussion you would have started it reasonably. In my country there is a saying, bad questions deserve bad answers, it reminds me of this.
Post some of your favorite ambient and lets make this thread worthwhile, its rare for ambient generals to survive more than six or so hours anyway.
>>62034428
>post some of my favorite ambient
I don't know much, introduce me to some.
>>62034475
>>62034491
>>62034504
these are a few charts I have
if you see some artists on multiple charts they're probably good
I'll also post the Tim Hecker flowchart for all the sad folks who don't know his discog by heart yet
>>62034519
I've only heard Virgins from Tim, solid 9/10 from me. Interesting, intriguing, and extremely original. What more should I check out?
>>62034519
>>62034531
Virgins is his newest one and definitely the most forward thinking, experimental and unique one, so don't expect more stuff like that from him just yet (maybe later this year when the new album comes out). His other records are more conventional in comparison, but that doesn't mean they're worse. Personally my favorite is Ravedeath which he made right before Virgins, but its a different beast altogether. Click through some of his stuff on YT or try the chart, see if anything interests you. >>62034533
>>62032968
>fall asleep while listening to this within the first fucking disk
Kinda the point, innit?
>>62033457
http://barorecords.bandcamp.com/track/a-mellow-hum-for-cycling-in-the-city-parts-3-4
You'll love this then
>>62034667
thanks mate, will check out
I'm looking for some industrial ambient, any recommendations?
>>62032864
Great. You'll like this: https://vimeo.com/64863911
https://vimeo.com/122562200
What do you think if this, particularly the film?:
https://vimeo.com/125255469
>>62033457
http://ennnnnnn.bandcamp.com/track/a-dying-sun-return-to-holyoke
http://ennnnnnn.bandcamp.com/track/pratyaya
Try this, it's my favourite ambient/drone group and one of my favourite albums. What do you think?
Also:
https://soundcloud.com/studentsofdecay/blonde-is-back?in=studentsofdecay/sets/en-city-of-brides
https://jamesdevane.bandcamp.com/
More emphasis on drone: http://ennnnnnn.bandcamp.com/album/blood
Sean McCann - Ten Impressions for Piano & Strings is one of my AOTY's, though not fuzzy.
>>62034519
>En
Holy shit that's my favourite ambient/drone group, I have to check out your list. What would you recommend me in particular?
>>62034609
That's the laziest excuse I've seen for that album so far in this thread.
Here's an example. Aphex Twin's SAW II manages to be 30 minutes longer than that hunk of shit, yet twice as interesting. Both are undeniably ambient records, why is AFX so much better at making ambient music that's eyecatching and suitable background music for sleeping, doing work, etc.?
>>62035120
Because it's not drone. Sounds like you just have beef with drone music to me.
post shit ambient albums
>>62035742
Bullshit, I run a drone doom project, and several of my favorite albums contain drone elements.
>>62032824
Look at what thread you are in.
Look at what you are posting.
>nothing from Fax +49-69/450464 in thread
> :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_8hM3F438g
>>62035801
Carve out the Face of My God is really boring
>>62035801
b-but i liked it...
>>62036180
have to disagree, i like that album a lot
I also think Refinement is much better than Tired Sounds.
>>62032767
bump
