this album is the shittiest and most overrated album on this board. it boggles my mind how people consider this one of the greatest albums of all time, when it's not even the greatest album of that year imo (spiderland). fight me on this you faggots
okay
so it's the 2nd best album of the year then?
you're right it's shit
This has decent copypasta potential
lets just end this thread right here. no one reply beyond this point
>>61980921
no, it's just awful. you can't even hear the lyrics, I had to look them all up while listening
>>61980929
>>61980933
explain to me why people think it's so good
>>61980939
No. You're not worthy
>>61980929
This.
It's got just enough cringe and could be used to talk about any acclaimed album you like because there's nothing of actual substance said.
>>61980945
why because if fucking sucks?
>>61980929
Pasta only works if it's a huge paragraph so then you can tell it's pasta and avoid it.
>>61980934
My god this has to be bait
simply love it when some dipshit kid from /mu/ gives an album that's been around forever and is universally praised one listen and thinks they saw through the bullshit, and comes here to open everyone's eyes
>>61980963
4 listens
>>61980954
Pic related
Loveless appreciation thread? Loveless appreciation thread!
To Here Knows When > Blown A Wish > I Only Said > Sometimes > Loomer > What You Want > Come In Alone > Only Shallow > Touched > When You Sleep
>>61980956
> implying you want people to identify it as pasta
Loveless is bad noisepop btw
>>61980939
This sort of music's strong point isn't supposed to be lyrics. It's about the timbre and colour and how the layers of music interact with each other to produce interesting textures. There's also some good pop melody writing too but because of the production aesthetic so often they're swallowed in the wall of sound.
"what is opinion"
>>61980993
so because it's a mesh of all these instruments you can hardly make out and the lyrics are inaudible, it's one of the greatest albums of all time?
nice
>>61981004
yea you nailed it buddy, some strong reading comprehension you got there
stay in school
>>61981004
>This sort of music's strong point isn't supposed to be lyrics.
:|
>>61980905
>>61980921
Laughing Stock is objectively the best album of 1991
>>61981004
You realize everyone ITT knows you're baiting, right? If you don't "get" Loveless, you're essentially revealing to the rest of us that you're incapable of comprehending a release that challenges the listener.
>>61981020
spiderland is a better album in every way. you say the layering of the music? spiderlands guitars intertwine like no other album, and the drumming is incomparable. sophistication? the time signatures are much more complex. and you can actually make out a story from each song. AND the whole album is more cohesive. fuck off.
>>61981025
>incapable of comprehending
I'd have said he has a shit palate and isn't capable of liking it because of that but you could be right too anon.
>>61981052
I bet you also know fuck all about jazz and classical too.
>>61981025
>pop with noise
>challenges the listener
>>61981025
oh god, I'm worried what anonymous hipster can't get a girl if they tried think of me if I don't like their precious loveless! :(
>>61981052
Loveless = beautiful noise
Spiderland = Generic arpeggio doodling
>>61980905
Lol.
>>61981052
i was at festivals where Slint was playing Spiderland in full two different times
i didn't watch them either time because they're boring shit
>>61981075
oh god he's making even less sense than before, i think he might be having a stroke, someone call a doctor
>>61981075
I'm not the one who was butthurt enough to make the thread, anon. It's cute really. Like watching a Star Wars fan try to shit on Space Odyssey.
>OMG, such boring scenes
>where are the comic relief characters!?
>Boooo, I want explosions and kissing scenes!
>>61980905
agreed
>>61981109
>butthurt
dude I just think the album is shit and wanted to see dudes who think they're so high and mighty get pissed off. also I love Star Wars and a space odyssey
>>61980905
HOT OPINIONS ALERT
touched is the only good song though
I agree
>shit, unmemorable songwriting (apart from the first song)
>boring songs
>bloated
terribly overrated
>>61981025
ebin b8
>>61980905
Nobody here apart from you cares about your opinion, please keep it to yourself.
>>61980970
I think that's more of an indicator of your failure to appreciate it than a failing of the album, friend
>>61980934
hahahahhahahahahahahhahahaha
>>61980905
I agree, it's just fuzzy slowed down, over-sexed guitar pop. it's just pop music for hipsters too cool to admit they like pop
>>61980905
Loveless sounds like smashing pumpkins played on blown out speakers 2bh
>>61981075
Do hipster girls even fucking like Loveless
this album is the shittiest and most overrated album on this board. it boggles my mind how people consider this one of the greatest albums of all time, when it's not even the greatest album of that year imo (spiderland). fight me on this you faggots
>>61980905
It literally invented a genre.
Also:
>Spiderland
topkek
>muh feels
>>61983437
>LOVELESS INVENTED SHOEGAY
i don't have a sufficient reaction image to mock you
>>61980934
Poor bait.
Next thread..
>>61983471
If Loveless didn't invent it then what did?
>>61980905
lol ok
>>61983532
The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy is some 5-6 years earlier distorted to fuck guitars with hushed soft vocals
Les Rallizes Denudes also is basically protoshoegaze VU
also in '91 we had Nowhere, Whirlpool, and i believe Soulvaki. If Loveless created a genre, these albums wouldn't pop out within months of it
>>61981134
>I love Star Wars and a space odyssey
Hello reddit
>>61984291
When My Bloody Valentine walked on the stage of feedback-pop, something truly magic was finally created in the realm of psychedelia. The mini-album Ecstasy (1987) explored the ambiguity that would make their mature sound so haunting and devastating: ecstasy and terror were two faces of the same moon, and that moon shone day and night. Daydreaming and nightmare became the same state of mind as guitars enveloped naive melodies and drums smashed vocal harmonies. Isn't Anything (1988) went one step further than Jesus And Mary Chain, in that it renounced punk's violence and harked back to the most dilated forms of acid-rock. Kevin Shields' "shoegazing" guitar fullfilled Jerry Garcia's and Jimi Hendrix' galactic bliss, and helped the sweet litanies grind their way into a transcendental trance. Electronic keyboards joined guitar noise on Loveless (1991), the ultimate exploration of textures in rock music. Its stunning chaos can be viewed both as an enraptured "om" to the universe or as a deranged scream in a madman's cell or as a terrified paralysis in the face of a supernatural force. The album changed the meaning of the word "music" by proving the equivalence between "noisy" and 'symphonic", the same way that Einstein proved the equivalence between inertial and gravitational mass.
>>61984378
>Psychocandy released 1985
Hah take that Scaruffles
Its a decent album with interesting production. I like it, but I agree, the fact that /mu/ considers it one of the greatest albums of all time is baffling.
>>61984403
He knows that retard.
>An interesting variation on the psychedelic revival of the 1980s came out of Scotland when Jesus And Mary Chain coined "feedback-pop". The idea was quite simple and certainly not new: take the Velvet Underground's White Light White Heat and add a catchy melody, or take Phil Spector's "wall of sound" and add a layer of guitar noise. Massive distortions, coupled with nihilistic ethos borrowed from the Sex Pistols, bestowed on Psychocandy (1985) a funereal mood. Its spectral, acid, abrasive lullabies lasted only one season, though. The much lighter Darklands (1987) was a collection of melancholy ballads, and Automatic (1989), while more cohesive, professional and eclectic than anything they had done before, was basically dance-music, no matter how skewed, and Honey's Dad (1992) was even laid-back.
Its the best shoegaze album ever. But shoegaze in general is a pretty irrelevant and boring genre.
Do you guys honestly think loveless is even that influential?
>>61980905
Oh look, it's THIS thread again.
>>61983437
Lots of albums have invented genres, but loveless is the only one thats considered "/mu/ core"
It has ever poor replayablitiy and the song writing is honestly really dull.
this is the best analogy for Loveless. Man it seems cool at first, and oh boy is it. not really much to it though. it's neat and it does something that seems impressive to children but an adult person really shouldn't pick it up very often.
>>61984562
THIS.
You described it perfectly
>>61984533
>poor replayablitiy
>>61984562
Hoberman spheres are pretty neat.
>>61984597
>implying it doesnt
Its a one trick album with little if any variety in the songs. And dont give me any of that
>hurr so layered so much detail
crap. Because there's really not much to pick up on in the tracks, they lose their charm quickly
>>61984562
I'll probably like it then because those hoberman spheres are pretty cool
>>61984485
>Do you guys honestly think loveless is even that influential?
Wire
The Cure
Smashing Pumpkins
Radiohead
U2
And a ton of modern artists who have been influenced by Loveless. No album has topped Loveless since its release in '91
>>61984614
Which is a good description of loveless.
Its pretty neat, but its certainly not one of the greatest albums of all time. Not even top 200
>>61984291
As usual Loop were omitted
>>61984666
yes, not saying it's bad by any means, "oh boy is it." i just agree with op in that it's not something i could ever foam at the mouth over, like certain others might.
>>61984671
>Wire
>the Cure
You do realize both of these groups precede MBV and made their masterpieces before Loveless right
>>61984710
Quick question. What track do you think represents Loveless? The one that pops into your head when the album's name comes up.
>>61984671
>Wire
>The Cure
>U2
This may be the most retarded comment I've ever read here. And I've read some doozies.
>>61980905
>imo
in all fields it goes
sage
>>61984671
>Wire
>The cure
>modern artists
>smashing pumpkins
>u2
>good
Wow so influential since its supposedly influenced 5 bands since its release. Its clearly way more influential than Nevermind.
>no album has topped loveless
Holy shit kill yourself
>>61984769
>>61984719
Look it up. They all cite Loveless as influencing their work after its release.
>>61980905
>he fell for the Spiderland meme and thinks Loveless is bad
clean your ears faggot
>>61984671
Wire and The Cure did their best work before Loveless, and those other bands are not very good.
>>61984793
No album has topped My Bloody Valentine's Loveless since its release. No, not even Radiopleb.
>>61984741
my favorite is probably come in alone. i don't know which one would represent loveless, i have never liked sometimes or only shallow like other people do. no disrespect but your question is hard for me to answer because i wouldn't be able to ask it of myself.
>>61984815
No one fuckint cares since The Cure and Wire were way past their fucking peak after it came out you fucking idiot.
Did it have any major influence on the rock scene overall? Did have any sort of noticeable impact on the scene or revolutionize music? SPOILER ALERT: It didn't
>>61984828
lol so Yeezus must be counted among Lou Reed's influences now
literally "muh aesthetics" the album
theres little to no substance
>>61984878
Animal Collective
Spiritualized
Deerhunter
The Antlers (inb4 memes)
M83
Dalek
But hey, you can continue jerking off to The Black Keys bruh.
>>61984857
Well you're flat out wrong about radiohead since ok computer is far better, but here I go
>ok computer
>enter the wu tang
>automatic for the people
>slanted and enchanted
>crooked rain crooked rain
>laughing stock
>>61984888
Not really. But TPAB was an influence for Bowie's Black Star.
>>61984888
What? How is that in anyway applicable to his comment?
>>61981004
Have you heard it or only listened to the first two seconds of the opening track.
>>61984985
>OK Computer
Not quite
>36 Chambers
Lol wut. Midnight Marauders was the released on the same coast the same year and was miles better. Both are still much weaker than Loveless.
Don't really care for Pavement or Laughing Stock, so I'd rather not say.
>>61984975
The black keys? What does that have to do with anything?
Anyways, all of those bands you mentioned are obscure indie bands who only matter to losers on the internet. I like most of those bands, but if you think because they were influenced by loveless that makes loveless one of the greatest albums of all time, you're a moron.
>>61981074
>unfunny meme with greentext
>challenges the reader
>>61985105
I think Loveless is the greatest album of all time because of the music, the textures, the matter in which it teaches you to appreciate noise. I feel genuinely bad for those of you who will never get to experience it. It's quite the rush.
>>61985190
*manner
>>61985190
do you listen to any Beethoven or Haydn or anything like that?
>>61984975
>AnCo
Not really.
>Spiritualized
Spacemen 3 existed before MBV, and Spiritualized is basically the same thing.
>Deerhunter
Literally who cares?
>The Antlers
lol memes
>M83
I guess, but who cares about them really?
>Dalek
wut
>>61984533
I'm sorry, but if there is something you can't say about Loveless is it hass poor replayability. It's one of the most amazing albums to explore, it gets richer with every replay, and if you just pulled out the cocks from your ears, you might realise the beauty of it.
>>61984741
Blown a Wish.
But listening to the whole album is where the real shit's at.
>>61984878
lol wtf, "Loveless is not influencial" when did this meme appear? Don't believe it kids. This album's the best of 91 and top 10 of 90s.
>>61984953
If you weren't a fucking autist you may be able to get feelings from the sounds themselves.
>>61985038
Lou Reed called Yeezus a masterpiece so he obviously enjoyed it quite a bit
just like The Cure and Wire apparently said about Loveless
so now TVU is officially influenced by Yeezus
>>61985134
it's not supposed to be funny faggot
i really hope this whole thread is bait
>>61980963
>>61980970
7 here, it sucks. And there's plenty of other shoegaze I enjoy.
>>61981085
Everything about Slint/Spiderland set me up to like them. But I just cannot with the music. It's unlistenably tryhard.
>>61987007
nah you just don't get it
it takes time
>>61980905
Funny, I feel the same way about Spiderland
>>61980975
Your opinion is so bad it makes me want to punch a kitten
>>61984485
>shoegaze in general is a pretty irrelevant and boring genre
It's always so easy to identify people who listened to 4 shoegaze albums max and disregard it as a same-y boring genre. You're wrong btw.
>>61983362
>spiderland
you fucked up senpai
this album is the shittiest and most overrated album on this board. it boggles my mind how people consider this one of the greatest albums of all time, when it's not even the greatest album of that year imo (TVU&N). fight me on this you faggots
>>61980934
Shit bait.
bumping for truth :))
>>61980905
i agree with OP
Of course it sucks. Like almost every /mu/core album, it's just something for memers to act smug about. Just look at this thread.
