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>You've exploited and stolen the music, the moment
The magic, the passion, the fashion, you toy with
The culture was never yours to make better
You're Miley, you're Elvis, you're Iggy Azalea
Fake and so plastic, you've heisted the magic

Does it right the wrongs now that he acknowledges it?
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>>61939705
idk I don't think I can ever forgive him for stealing k dots grammy. The satirical part with the mom was pretty clever though.
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No genre of music "belongs" to a group of a certain skin color, what a fucking retarded cuck.
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>please pay attention to me
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>>61939744
obvi he's talking about talking a cultural music and turning into easy to digest pop music.
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>>61939749
yeah that's what it seems like.
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>>61939705
Those bars are hot af but I don't see how it rights any wrongs. actually the fact that these issues need to be validated by a white man before they're acknowledged by the general population/people who matter is a big part of the problem. Black people have been saying this for years and nobody gave a shit, now one Jew-baiting hack says it and it's like racism is fixed

also way to conveniently leave yourself outta that list mack, nice work
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>>61939769
You got a point. No black person has ever made radio friendly pop music.
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>white rappers
how come they're always so cringey?
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Fuck off with these shitty threads already
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So can we go back to slavery yet
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>>61939923
because everyone who becomes too obsessed with another culture has serious issues

weebs, asians with white envy, wiggers, uncle toms, whatever, it's all based in self-hatred.

you'll notice healthy and successful people really don't give that much of a shit about it all.
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>>61939705
Dear God, this is awful.
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>>61939705
>The part where he gets voyeuristic and has a poet congratulates him for having accessible music with "Thrift Shop" and "Same Love"
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>>61939705
Macklemore insulting Elvis lol what the hell
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>>61939992
That is a really good way to say it anon, good job.
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Jesus Christ, this is.embarrassing. if he thinks its wrong why doesn't he stop making garbage music. He could have just retired after tweeting that he was done "appropriating" culture.

This is just another terrible song in a long line of failures
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>>61939883
made me lol
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>>61939705
So I suppose black people should stop using snare drums across the board lest they appropriate white culture?

Maybe no more orchestral stabs, can't appropriate white culture!

Maybe black people shouldn't have appropriated woodwind and brass instruments? Fucking appropriation!

Shit, did that black guy just use a blues structure? Remember how blacks appropriated blues from the Scots?

Fucking face it, everything we ever do is a form of fucking appropriation. I'm sick of people trying to create all this holy ground for white people. No ground is sacred to me, I'll walk where I shall.
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>>61940134
thats the meme tho
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Nice poetry slam.
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sociology not music
thread hidden - onto the next topic
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>>61940238
White people are treated better than black people in America, so it's not fair that they should steal from blacks
>No ground is sacred to me, I'll walk where I shall.
he typed, sitting on his ass
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>>61940238
Also, literally hip hop was birthed from sampling. It's literally "appropriation with ghetto black poems: the genre".

I'm so fucking sick of white guilt, aka original sin. Guilt is an entirely worthless feeling.
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>>61940294
You can't be serious
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>>61940294
If you care, then go donate your time and shit to make things better for blacks. Otherwise, if you actually care, listen to Macklemore's vomit again and take his lesson.
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>>61940320
YOU can't be serious, and I know you aren't
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>>61939923
not always, just usually
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Yes goyim, apologize for your misbehavior towards those poor blackies!
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>>61939705
Funny part about this is he supposedly bit the thrift shop beat from Le1f, who accused him basically of exactly the same shit he's talking about in this song
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>>61940349
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woo another macklemore song where just talks about shit he could've blogged instead of caring about songwriting and rapping.
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>>61940377
>beats
>being stolen

Okay, unless something is directly sampled, claiming any beat is "unique" is pretty much utter horse shit. Especially synthesized drum beats.

That's like saying "I was the first to make a 909 4 on the floor house beat".
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>>61940408
I havent listened to the le1f song, but notmally when rappers talk about beats theyre talking about the production as a whole, not just the fucking kick drum pattern ffs do i really have to explain this?
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>>61940467
Still, I'm skeptical. le1f may just be a jealous tard.
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>>61940486
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrnq4SZ0luc

eh.. Same horns, same 808, same claps, same tempo. The melody is different and the drums are switched up a bit.. but there is definitely a strong resemblance here. The Le1f track is also wayyy better.
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>>61940767
Not the same horns, le1f's song doesn't play the same melody, though that is thematically similar

808 is a kit that includes kicks, snares, hi hats. It's not just a kick, and they both use 808 sounds.

Le1f is not using the 808 kick as well. It's different. He seems to be using it for subby basslines, if at all. Macklemore does seem to be using it for the main kick.

Overall the similarities are trivial.
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>>61939744
Blues comes from black people. Jazz comes from blues, dixie, and minstrel which is based on the idea of black people as a whole, gross generalizations but still based on them. Cultural music is a thing.
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>>61939923
Some of the best rappers are white. But yes, most are cringey.
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>>61940984
>Blues comes from black people stealing Scottish tunes

oops
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3u2kSgpD0Y
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>>61940238
/thread

Fuck tumblr
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>>61941026
The Atticus Finch Complex is real.
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>>61941019
ummm you mean field hollars negro spirituals and the southern baptist church?
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>>61940408
I stopped using drum patterns. Not much creativity involved. Also I'm white, and I love and know more about hip hop than most black kids I know. I can make and listen to whatever music I want to.
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>>61941019
What a shit meme
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DAILY REMINDER THAT THE BEST SELLING RAPPER OF ALL TIME IS WHITE AND ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL RAP GROUPS FOR THE GENRE WAS BEASTY BOYS

ALSO
>Insulting Elvis
C
U
C
K
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>>61941127
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>Elvis is bad
when will this meme end?
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>>61939992
I see no issue with exploring various cultures, finding one you like, and then attempting to assimilate.
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>>61941974
t. Davido-kun
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>>61941242
So what? The best rappers are black anyway.
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>>61939923
they're the worst of white people
white people excel at great literature, great architecture and art music. the only people who tries to impress black people by rapping are the ones who couldn't cut it in white culture
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I'm so glad I left /mu/ back in 2010. It's sad how much of a leftist shithole it is now.
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this is now a loveless meme thread
post memes realted to loveless
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>>61942236
okay memer, what is actually wrong with weebs?
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BWOWOWOWOWOOOW WOOOW WAHWAHWAOWAHWAHWOAHWOAHAAWAW
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dude white people are the worst
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>>61940238
damn dude read some race theory
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>>61942546
>race theory
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Ryan Lewis's beats sound like he bought a Casio keyboard and played the preset songs off of them
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>>61942422
If you care more about politics than music you shouldn't be here in the first place.
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>>61941026
Jesus fucking CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIST
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>>61942495
Ain't that the truth.
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>>61942546
>damn dude read some race theory
I've probably read more than most progressives honestly.
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>>61942546
alright
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Cultural appropriation is a valid liberty we can indulge in for removing Africans from the shittiest part of the world and giving them a place in a industrialized liberal western democracy as opposed to the absolute shithole that is west africa.
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>>61941026
christ almighty i didn't need to see this
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>>61939705
Professor Macklemore dun school'd the youngins on white privilege.
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>>61939705
>The culture was never yours to make better
>You're Miley, you're Elvis, you're Iggy Azalea
You're Macklemore
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>>61943164
Because if anyone needs to be indoctrinated with globalist myths of racial equality it's generation z
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>>61943164
shouldn't you be reblogging something on tumblr
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How do be stop this lads?
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Am I a SJW/Tumblrfag/Redditor/Whateverthenewmemeis if I kinda agree with him on this song?
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>>61943573
>>>/tumblr/
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>>61939705
literally hospin tier shit
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>>61943573
Of course. Anyone who disagrees with rightie whities is obviously a filthy SJW
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so /mu/ is a leftist board eh?

Drown EVERY brown you race traitors
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>>61939705
milkman milkman can't you see...
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>>61940984
>>61941019
Jimmie Rodgers, a white country music (who was admittedly influenced by the blues) is considered by many historians to be the most influential country blues related artist of his own generation simply because he managed to get airplay on the radio. Howlin' Wolf cites Rodgers as the inspiration for his distinctive singing voice, it's nowhere near as one sided as you're making it to be.
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>>61943573
bait as fuck
>>61943244
why are you on /mu/
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>>61944009
bro like half the posts in this thread are people disagreeing with him
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>>61943573
No, but I would expect very few people on 4chan to agree. People have somehow convinced themselves that being white is now a disadvantage in mainstream society, and the SJW is the greatest threat we face.
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>>61939705
>white people commodify and package traditional "white culture" all the time, simplifying it and taking a lot of the depth away in favor of mass appeal
>but when you do it to black people it's racist

Fucking hell, the very existence of rap as a global genre is literally cultural commodification. They turned a counter-culture hood movement into a multimillion dollar music industry phenomenon. But that's completely okay until a white person just like the music and want to make it too. Of course he wouldn't mention the biggest white rapper in history, only rapper he mentioned is universally hated, not because she's white, but because she fucking sucks. But it's okay for Macklemore to rap because he... acknowledges that black people invented rap?

I guess it's racist if an Asian man rights a Baroque-style orchestral piece? Or when metal artists incorporate quarter-step intervals?
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>>61940984
You either completely missed the "belongs" part of his quotation or intentionally ignored it because it levels your retarded ass point of view.
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>>61939705
>elvis stole music
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>i-its just on the internet guys..
>anti white sentiment will never go mainstream..
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>>61945773
i doubt many white people feel genuinely threatened. you see a lot of /pol/-types actively pushing back, but i reckon the majority of white people are just tired of the inclusivity circle jerk. i'm 25 and we've been hammering this shit since before i was in grade school. it's tiresome and superfluous.
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Mackelmore says some true shit in this song but I hate him for commodifying it and turning it into a cheap message for dumb white fans
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Why do liberals see people as groups rather than individuals?
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>>61947888
Because racial categories are important in our world
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>>61940238
/thread.
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>>61947888
why do the same people encourage sexual reassignment surgery while simultaneously undermining genitalia as a significant facet of gender?
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>>61947967
ill take delusional cognitive dissonance for $500
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>being so desperate for attention you take shots at a dead guy

I'm surprised he didn't sneak David Bowie in there too, since he "appropriated" a lot of nigger pussy.
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>>61939705
Because hip hop is for BLACK PEOPLE ONLY! WHITE PEOPLE AREN'T ALLOWED INTO THE CLUB!!

and macklemore thinks he has intruded by doing that genre and is literally apologizing.
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>>61948022
No he makes shit tier rap.
Elementary school raps and crocodile tears make your shit look awful.
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>>61948179
I'm saying macklemore is wrong for what he's saying here. He thinks he needs to apologize for daring make music.
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>>61947888
Liberals are the biggest racists in the world.
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>>61948324
Lol hell no.
This whole "I'm sorry for making music" is just another "Please give me attention" grab.
He needs to apologize for making shit tier music.
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>>61947967
Why are conservatives care so much about people's genitalia? Why do conservatives reduce people to their genitalia?
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>>61943573
He could be right, but isn't he making a rap song about how white people shouldn't make rap songs while he's white? Shouldn't he just not make music anymore?

Or is he somehow saying it's OK for him to make it because he's "authentic"? If so, that's worse IMO than the people he's criticizing. I don't mind if people take elements of music and do it their way, but to fetishize the culture of black people which it seems like he's doing while also appropriating and signaling that he's part of that group because he's special and "understands it" or something is embarrassing.
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>>61939705
Lmao whites can't do anything right.
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>>61948607
kek
Although I will admit Ryan Lewis is a great producer. Neon Cathedral is a wonderfully produced song. Also BomBom which has no vocals at all.

Honestly if there was just an album of Ryan Lewis instrumentals, maybe some guests I would probably enjoy it.
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>>61947859
My main complaint is that while we still have real racial issues, the things 90% of society talks about does nothing to resolve them. Privilege exists, in that some people are more or less disadvantaged in different areas based on status (class, race, gender, etc.) but it's not like there's a white conspiracy to keep blacks down. Mostly just apathy or wilful ignorance. Same idea as insisting being poor doesn't matter because hard work worked for them.
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>>61939705
First verse is passable, its more blog post than song but whatever.

Then it derails. What was with that segment where he's complimenting thrift shop? And comparing cultural appropriation to police brutality is retarded.

Also macklemores voice is annoying and the iinstrumental is way too bouncy for this attempt at "serious" subject matter.

Overall this feels like a song that will alienate people on all sides of the issues discussed within it and will make everyone think less of macklemore because of how whiny and self-important he comes across all at once.
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>>61949027
people need to come to terms with the fact that the black man's plight has nothing to do with personal biases and everything to do with systems at the institutional level designed to keep poor people poor. the fact that slavery, jim crowe, etc. happened is just shit luck to toss on top of it. when you realize everyone is fucked, this incorporeal brand of racism that macklemore and his ilk seem to harp on stops to matter so much.

i'm convinced he's an industry plant.
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>>61948683
is that directed at me? you realize the irony in that statement when extreme social libs are the only ones who make such a huge stink out of it in the first place, right? people can do with their money what they please. it just boggles the mind the sheer amount of doublethink that goes on in those spheres. both sides, really.
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>>61942876
>white (not hispanic)
>white (hispanic)
I never understand that, i mean i get that white not hispanic reffers to the aryan, nordic, anglos, slavs, etc.
What i don't get is if white (hispanic) means all hispanics or hispanic people are divided in two.
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>>61949340
>when extreme social libs are the only ones who make such a huge stink out of it in the first place, right?
W E W L A D.
>people can do with their money what they please.
Oh yeah but not when they use that health insurance or health coverage >huh?
it just boggles the mind the sheer amount of doublethink that goes on in those spheres. both sides, really.
Not at all.
You're pulling this "doublethink" bull out of your anys
>Dae evil trannies are going to attack you and kill your chuldren!
>They're going to attack your children and you in the bathroom!
>Trans person gets beat up
>xDDDDD destroy dae trannies and gays
Trans person transitions or not, they're fucked. Suicides or murders and I see an assload of conservatives crying tears of joy.
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>>61949438
>health insurance

again, i don't really care. there are probably lots of trans people at the end of their ropes who cannot cope with their bodies. if they can't be fucked to spend the money on therapy, might as well spend it on HRT or surgery. i just don't think it should be taken lightly. surgery is inherently dangerous. i'm fine with trans people. and not in a corporate compliance diversity handbook kind of way -- i fuck men and women and do lots of weird stuff with both.

i get that you're trolling, but whatev.
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>>61949514
>You're trolling me :'(
I know people don't care regardless.
Y'all scream "surgery is dangerous!" yet whenever an obese fuck breaks their leg and gets surgery people easily approve.
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>>61949567
depending on the fracture, surgery is a medical necessity. but you want to avoid being under the knife as much as possible during your lifetime. feeling icky about your body as a teenager isn't really grounds for extensive plastic surgery, imo.

that said, obese fucks don't deserve much anyway.
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>>61942274
HOW DARE YOU CALL THEM BLACK, THE PREFERED TERM IS AFRICAN AMERICAN YOU RACIST SEXIST CIS MALE SHITLORD!!!!!!
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>>61950190
You tried way too hard.
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>>61940238
>Blacks claim a genre

>Whites are claiming music as a whole

White cis scum
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>>61939769
>obvi he's talking about talking a cultural music and turning into easy to digest pop music.

He has a point.

We need guys like Drake, Lil Wayne, Snoop Dogg, Young Thug, T-Pain, Kanye West who wont make easy to digest pop music and all happen to be dark skin 100% African as well
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>>61939705

> Interpretive audio version of the Hateful Eight scene
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>>61948136
>I was born in the wrong generation
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>>61942472
They misrepresent a cultural they hope to assimilate with.
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>>61949160
>What was with that segment where he's complimenting thrift shop? And comparing cultural appropriation to police brutality is retarded.
It was some le ignorant white fan gushing over him and defending police at the same time.
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Literally none of my black friends like Macklemore
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>>61939705
Oh okay, I get it he's one of those GOOD white people.
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Fun fact, the era of white mediocrity insultingly known as The Renaissance was actually stolen wholecloth from the diaries of Miles Davis. He was compensated with a rotisserie chicken and two cornbread muffins.
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>>61939705
Fuck him and fuck his pussy ass rap song.
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>>61953703
Oowee shole is souna gud rat now potna
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Mackerel sucks donkey dick.
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>>61939705
Elvis? Career is over for hating on the king.
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>>61939705
elvis did waaaaaaay more for black culture than macklemore kek
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>>61939769
Which is ironic...
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>>61941019
yeah not really at all
>>61941084
this is true
>>61945241
this is too
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Damn Mac became a bigger sellout than Ice Cube and George Lucas combined
Suck that block cock you cuck
Michael Brown was a criminal
And this is coming from a guy who genuinely believed 9/11 theories
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>>61941026
>The only card that buys freedom
Our rights have literally been commercialized.

God is dead..
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>>61942495
You write for p4k ?
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>>61956588
>Not being racist or ignorant about blacks is being a sellout

This is what 2016 whites believe
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>>61948136
>lewronggeneration
if you want to go hipster at least listen to some indie
>>61939705
>he got a grammy instead of Kendrick
BIG BLACK PEACOCK
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>>61956864
Michael Brown was a punk kid who tried to attack a police officer. His race is irrelevant.
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>>61957002
Nobody cares if he has a bad kid. The fact that this kid "had" to be killed is the real issue
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>>61957044
When you attack a police officer you risk getting shot. Simple as that.
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>ctrl + F
>no results for "corny" or "cheesy"
baka
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>>61955253
Woah!Youre master debater maine.All these arguments an shiet will make you da best lawyer.
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>>61957091
>Implying a white criminal would get shot and killed if he fought a cop
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>>61939705

Macklemore is a fucking hypocrite, nothing more to say about it.
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>>61942876
but whites commit more crime senpai
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>>61942876
What the fuck Indians don't even have firearms they have bows and arrows
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>>61959052
This. If that Oregon militia were any color other than white, they'd be dead by now.
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>>61939705
Seems more like he's talking to himself, honestly. The sort of message seems to be about his own guilt and discomfort, and how touchy and distant the real issues are.
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>>61939705
He is a gimmick just like her and this is a gimmick tactic.

Thrift shop was big and same love because white people gave it a shot cause he was white and really isn't a rapper.
Same people love him love eminem lol
He gets no play in my hood.
Check my bro tho
datpiff.com/tape/759661
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>>61939705
This nigga?
Oh he is trash to people that listen to rap.only white lame like him.
Brah his dick on homies neck man..lol
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Is his next song gonna be about otherkin?
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>>61939923
The Beas
Tee
BOYS?
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>>61961098
eminem used to be good a long time ago.
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>>61939705
has any other white man ever wished he were black and oppressed as much as macklemore does?
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>>61939705
It's kind of bizarre. the first White Privilege he did was actually a pretty down to Earth observation on showing respect to the originators of the hip hop genre.

I think he just went off the rails with white guilt neo-progressive bullshit this time around because Same Love or whatever was such a hit he realized he could exploit black struggle just as shallowly as he did gays and make tonnes of money in the same way.
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>>61961098
>Same people love him love eminem lol

>Eminem lyric
My words are like a dagger with a jagged edge
That'll stab you in the head, whether you're a fag or lez
Or a homosex, hermaph or a trans-a-vest
Pants or dress, hate fags? the answer's "yes"
Homophobic? Nah, you're just heterophobic
Staring at my jeans, watching my genitals bulging
That's my motherfuckin' balls, you'd better let go of 'em
They belong in my scrotum, you'll never get hold of 'em!
"Hey, it's me, Versace! Whoops, somebody shot me!
And I was just checking the mail, get it? Checking the 'male'?"
How many records you expecting to sell
After your second LP sends you directly to jail?
Come on, relax guy, I like gay men

>Macklemore lyric
If I was gay, I would think hip-hop hates me
Have you read the YouTube comments lately?
"Man, that's gay" gets dropped on the daily
We become so numb to what we're saying
A culture founded from oppression
Yet we don't have acceptance for 'em
Call each other faggots behind the keys of a message board
A word rooted in hate, yet our genre still ignores it
Gay is synonymous with the lesser

I find it hard to believe there may be crossover.
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>>61959052
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/georgia-teen-holding-wii-remote-shot-cops-front-door-family-lawyer-article-1.1619842
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>>61939705
This is why I support Bernie sanders for president. He will tank race relations and the economy. Maybe secession movements wil gain serious traction.

Ironically Asians have the most "privilege". They make more money, commute less crime, don't go to prison as much, have higher IQs than whites etc. yet no one bitches about them.

America is a melting pot. Hip hop belongs to no one. White people shouldn't be shamed for being white because they don't subscribe to far left lunacy. The song sounds good but only serves to antagonize whites who have committed the terrible crime of "WRONG THINK".

HEY BLACK PEOPLE. LETS HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT BLACK CRIME AND UNDERACHIEVMENT THAT DOESNT INVOLVE BLAMING WHITES!!!!
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>>61942274
Eminem>
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I'm just bored with the "self-hating white person" angle in general. It's tired when it's brought up in any conversation, much less in a song.
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Liberals are the biggest racists in America.
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>White supremacy isn't just a white dude in Idaho
Damn....
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