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>wtf there's no /prod/ thread

is there anything like pic related that I can use as a midi controller?

don't lie, you know you want to
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what speakers should I buy for starting out?

also do I need to get a subwoofer?
>tfw you recognize the location in the captcha
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szQFJ0oZ2yE
DDR pad seems like its just asking to made into a midi controller
piano key layout is the most wrong layout for a controller of this nature

Does live performance on a real life instrument count as music production? I've been told by people that it doesn't but I can't help but laugh in their faces. I myself improvise on piano and other instruments for hours every day but I always get boo'd out of these threads for reasons unknown to me
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>>61856873
define "starting out"

get a powered loud speaker you can buy another and a sub later
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Probably a better place than any other for this question.

I'm considering getting into DJ'ing, what are some recommended controllers?

Thanks.
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>>61856873
>do I need a subwoofer?
nah bro. Unless the music you make is super bass heavy, and intended to be played back on systems with a big sub. If its just you listening to your own stereo mixes you literally can never beat the quality of headphones.
If you absolutely need speakers you want something with large drivers, 10" at least imho. because they will produce more natural low frequencies rather than mimic them by only sounding their upper overtone range and not the actual principal tones
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>>61856961
Starting to record my music, and I'd like some reasonable/solid speakers for playing/mixing/etc/etc
>keyboard
>bass
>guitar on some tracks
>vocals
>drum machine (might swap out for live drums if possible)
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>>61857034
You probably will want a pa system. I personally use a pair of small-ish JBL EON powered speakers. You will NEVER get good keyboard, bass, and drum frequencies out of anything smaller than 10". even on my 10" pa system bass drums dont sound boomy enough, low piano keys don't either. it all sounds great on ~$80 headphones

mixing is best done with decent headphones. and checked afterwards on a variety of different speaker setups.
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Why can't I fucking make anything.
Everything sounds like complete shit. I fucking hate this. It's the only fucking potential dream I have left and I fucking hate it's fucking impossible.
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>>61857034
If you're going to buy speakers you'll need to buy acoustic treatment for your room as well. Might as well look up some decent headphone for now while you save for speakers and shit.
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>>61857691
Keep writing bro! I'm going through something similar and it's horrible but every now and then i do make something that does not resemble shit and god what a feeling! Very fulfilling - makes me hate myself less.
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>>61857691
If you're really struggling:
1.
>Pick up a book on synthesis. Learn one synthesizer really well (sylenth1 is pretty easy).
>Read the Synth manual and understand what it can do.
2.
>copying the song structure and sounds of your favourite song. Just remake it exactly.
>really analyse what it is about the structure and sounds that make this song good
3.
>Start alternating between making your own songs from scratch and remaking songs
4.
>Phase out remaking and just begin analyzing your own songs

One of the most important things is to FINISH heaps of songs, even if they aren't perfect. If you just practice making loops of good ideas, that's all you'll ever be good at. Turn those good ideas into shitty/mediocre songs and think about WHY they were bad. Work on it.
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>>61857828
OR completely ignore me and find your own way of getting shit done. If it works for you, then it works. If it sounds good to you, then it is good.
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>>61857828
>One of the most important things is to FINISH heaps of songs, even if they aren't perfect

I'm the other anon who replied to him, and this is very good advice
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Should i learn notation and sheets?
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>>61859258
Depends on what you wanna do mang, but it never learns to hurt anything.
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>>61856986
Technics SL-1200mk2 with timecode vinyl
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mic recommendations for vocals plz?
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Does anyone ever buy gear irl?

Got any tips to find stuff at pawnshops/boot sales/thrift stores?
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>>61859258
Yes
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>>61857828
>One of the most important things is to FINISH heaps of songs
Not him, but I always start enthusiastically and and stop halfway through even if it sounds good.
Then I start something new.
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>>61857691
Everyone I've ever spoken to about production feels the same. It gets better and better but you're always gonna feel that way about something at some point. Just cruise through it, make a different tune every day. I personally give myself one day per idea. If its not something i really want to work on the next day I leave it until I think of something. Forcing yourself to try and create something is a good way to burn out.

I remember when I used to feel this the most was when I first started out. I was really into drum & bass at the time and that was the only thing I ever tried to make. I eventually packed it up because it was too frustrating. Eventually I got back into production and now i just make whatever I want. Sometimes drag a random song into ableton and try and copy an element of it and all of a sudden its an idea. Other times I set a random bpm and just muck around.
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>>61859258
The basics to both are easy as shit man.
One week set aside should be enough to read MOST music, especially pop and contemporary music.
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>>61857098
what the fuck am I reading
stop spreading the shittiest advice
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give me some reasons why should i save up for mpc1000 instead of a mpc500
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>>61860959
jjos and this

http://www.akaipro.com/files/product_downloads/akai_mpc_series_comparison_v2.1_01.pdf
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>>61860976
so is it really worth that extrat 200 dollars just for one more midi input?
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Anyone know any torrents for Xfer's serum on pc?
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>>61861220
Did you read the chart? It's more than just one midi port.
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>>61857691
If youre not having fun producing then you'll never get anywhere m8
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>open live
>prepare samples for drum rack
>kinda have an idea
>make a synth to use on track
>spend an hour trying to flesh out idea, not quite sure where to begin
>get burnt out listening to the same loops for 30 minutes trying to get everything right
>stare idly and eventually go do something else

How do I stop myself from getting derailed. I'm horrible about finishing songs and I know I'm not the only one
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Guitarfag here, want to learn piano and use for synthy parts. What should I buy? $3,000 budget.
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>>61859763
Shure SM58

>>61861255
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5091083

>>61861306
Finish the idea with shitty sounds in as short as you can. Then go back and fiddle with everything as long as it takes once you have the basic layout.

>>61861313
Any keyboards with 88 weighted keys and MIDI support like from Yamaha or Kurzweil are good choices.
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>>61861313
>>61861366
I wouldn't recommend an 88 weighted key keyboard if you just want synths.
I would just get a cheap midi controller with a good amount of keys, weighted is not ideal for synths, but you might want a little touch sensitivity.
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>>61856626
https://clyp.it/amt2myca
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>>61861366
That link looks dodgey af mane
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>>61861441
He also said he wanted to learn piano.

>>61861461
Trust me, rutracker is a russian torrent site that goes beyond your pleb tier shit you find on tpb or mainstream sites like that. It has fucking everything, make an account and trust me, you'll be thanking me for all eternity.
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>>61861543
pls dont post RT man there arnt many havens left for gear you motherfucker with the decode teams becoming internal. dont do it pls pls
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>>61861573
Oh, I'm sorry dude, I was just trying to help a fella out.
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>>61857034

Just get some solid headphones. E.g. AKG K702, Sennheiser whatever. Unless you're specifically trying to learn to mix music, you're better off just using headphones and taking your music to a studio if you ever want to release it commercially. Having monitors and shit is nice, but you also need to consider acoustic treatment for the room, and serious mixing takes a considerable amount of study and experience.
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>>61861599
i know i sound like a real cunt but if you search through team AiR, assign, tracer etc you will see that the teams are becoming less and less willing to share their cracked software.

but you are aware of a very, very powerful site, dont share it with everyone anon
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>>61861543
I assumed synth was his main focus with how he worded it.
If I was him I would buy a ~500 dollar 88 key keyboard, like a Yamaha or Privia series, and a nice 400 dollar or so synth.
Save the extra money for gear or to upgrade far down the line if you decide to stay with it.
A new piano player isn't going to be able to appreciate quality above that price range, I've had experts who enjoyed playing on keyboards in that range.
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>>61861627
Alright got it.
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>>61856626
does anyone here use Pure Data to compose?
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>>61862078

yes

the biggest mistake people do is using several metros. use one metro as a clock and divide it using [mod]
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Thoughts on the blue yeti?
I want to record rippity raps and be miracle spiritual lyrical meme man
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>>61857733
>>61861613
I have some grado sr60s that I bought like 2 years ago but they have a pretty weak bass, might pick up a more expensive model since I like how they sound and the look of them

wanted speakers to practice mixing and to enjoy listening to other music. Do you think it's just better to record everything and not mix it and just pay for someone to do it for me?
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>>61862303
get an interface and a 'real' microphone in case you want to switch or upgrade at a later time
f.e. the typical combination scarlet 2i2 and at2020
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>>61862349
I'd always suggest using good speakers because when recording you want to monitor stuff, too in order to not fuck up. sending a tracking session to an engineer who instead of mixing it is busy fixing your shit won't really help because the 'shit in - shit out' rule applies
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Are these worth the money? I can buy one locally for $4,500
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>>61862676
Is that in real money or fake Canada cash? They appear to be $3400 new online.
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>>61862707
CAD, our dollar is shit
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>>61862676
>paying 4500$ for marginally better sound

wow I understand music is a hobby but jesus christ what happened to working with what you have
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What would mu recommend for a good keyboard for ableton? I make techno and house.
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>>61862676

If you would need one of those you wouldn't be asking here.
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>>61862817
>/tv/ meme

i recommend dying faggot
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feedback me senpaitachi

https://clyp.it/z0awt2kq
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>>61862817
Like, get an Alesis one or something, but it doesn't really matter what you make.
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>>61862897
/tv/ makes way better memes than /mu/ does, don't even act like that's not true.
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>>61862233
thanks for the tip, babe
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>>61862349

Getting speakers won't hurt, and by all means do your own mixes if you want, all I'm saying is don't expect to get 'professional' results at home, even if you invest a fair bit of money in room treatment and shit and a lot of work too.

In an ideal situation you would go into a studio to record and have a mix engineer do your mixes too. Do your thing at home, make the music you want to make, just be aware of the limitations before you drop a load of money on a set-up.

A good pair of reference headphones is ENOUGH for home use, in my opinion, and they're cheaper and you don't have to worry about acoustic treatment. Personally I'm using headphones primarily for my music right now, though I'm not doing much recording.

Tip: If you do go ahead with speakers but don't get any room treatment, do your mixes at lower volumes to reduce the effect of the room on the sound.
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>>61857691
The best way to produce is to hear everything in your head before you try to make it. Hear the notes and the rhythms and then draw them on the screen or play them on the keyboard. Don't just mess around looking for happy accidents. This can work sometimes if you're feeling lazy, but the best way is the way I described.
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>>61863378
This desu senpai
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>>61857691
Try to express emotion through sounds. It'll have more meaning and give you more motivation to finish a track. I'm in the same place, but I still believe this to be true.
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>>61862920
Name one /tv/ meme that isn't cancer
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>>61863378
Maybe for composition, but do you actually plan your sound design in advance instead of experimenting?
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>>61863752
Do sound design simultaneously, it's alright for the most part, but sometimes when you're feeling a bit off just mess around with sounds that you can maybe use in the future. That's also inspiring.
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>>61863703
bane posating
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>>61863703
JUST
bane posting
sheve posting before it started to the "the prequel trilogy of star wars is actually good" meme
HOL UP *smacks lips*

the worst memes from /tv/ are the ones that don't even last more than a month.
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>>61863752

Personally I find ideas for tracks often come from experimenting with sound design. For example, I might open up a synth and make a cool bass timbre, which inspires a bassline, then I'll lay down a beat and make some more timbres or pick out some samples or whatever to fill things out.

It might be a good idea to know what SORT of sound you want to design before you open up your synth though - e.g. "I'm going to design a cool bass" rather than "I'm gonna fuck around and see what happens". The more specific you are, the faster it'll come together.
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>>61864050

All cancer M8
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>>61861366
>http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5091083
How the fuck am I supposed to understand this shit?
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>tfw every master is too quiet or a total mess
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>>61864249
After you register, you'll only gonna have to worry about the download torrent button. Use Chrome's built in translator.

>>61864280
Limit senpai.
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STOP SCROLLING

OFFICIAL /prod/ CENSUS

pick as many as you want but be honest and realistic


http://strawpoll.me/6585262

http://strawpoll.me/6585262

http://strawpoll.me/6585262

http://strawpoll.me/6585262

>inb4 /prod/ is actually /bleep/
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>>61864384
who /outsider house/ here?
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>>61864426
yeah let's throw that in with IDM
i don't want you faggots to abuse the "other" option
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>>61863922
>>61864050
All terrible
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>>61864202
>>61864606
kill yourselves
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>>61864731
fuck you pussy

i wanna make some random shit any1 got any ideas? genre,bpm,sample etc?
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>>61864760
make a noose so you can die, faggot.
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>>61864760
150-160 bpm
steal a sample that kanye used
and make a juke/footwork track
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>>61864760
You're supposed to come up with that stuff man.
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>>61864783
what the fuck is juke/footwork?

>>61864777
suckyamum
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>>61864807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwmaDg75MIc
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>>61864384
>meal
Lmao, I know there's children in /prod/, but I didn't think they were that young.
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>>61864731
>OMG U DON LIEK LE EPIC PAINT-BY-NUMBERS INTERNET COMEDY???
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Any thoughts on Ableton Push 2?
I feel like it's more of a really expensive toy just like its predecessor.
I tried it and had a lot of fun with it but I think I would end up just throwing it in the trash after not too long.
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>>61865755
Nahh, it's pretty good desu senpai.
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>>61865755
are you the guy that rages about multi-coloured LEDs?
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>>61866159
Nah just asking for some opinions cause i'm actually considering of buying it but I'm afraid I'll just waste my money
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>>61866627
i don't really see how it's a toy, seems pretty purpose-built for producing in ableton as opposed to just mindlessly fucking around
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>>61865755
You would never stop using the Push as long as you're using Ableton.

It makes so much more sense than the APC/Launchpad integrations, from what I've seen. Is it worth the price difference? I don't know, I've never used ableton with other controllers.
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progressive house: https://clyp.it/hmukquex

my mix might be too full, especially on high end. shouldnt have added the last saw synth.
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>>61866941
>>61866684
>>61866627
>>61865755
fa c eboo k.KOM/lllltokyo/videos/917394331661979/?video_source=pages_finch_main_video

Seems like a fun
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>>61859810
>Does anyone ever buy gear irl?
Yep, mainly just through craigslist posts though.

>Got any tips to find stuff at pawnshops/boot sales/thrift stores?
Visit them often so that you'll have a better chance of finding something on the off-chance they get any music hardware in stock.
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>>61867637
Checking often really can't be overstated, all the crazy deals I haven't had the money for are gone almost instantly and every crazy deal I have taken advantage of in the classifieds was posted that day/very recently
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is this piece of shit worth 850$?
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>>61867917
Looks like a children's toy.
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>>61867917
maybe not 800, but at least 500+
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>>61867917
It's pretty good.
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>>61867917
those swedes that made "i wanna know your name" use it
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>>61867917
fuckkkk no

absolutely not

do some research - so many amazing instruments you could buy instead. use your fucking laptop for a daw.
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>>61868177
>things millennials say
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>>61868348
>things millennials say
>translation: statements I don't like
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>>61868386
>knowing how to memetext
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>>61868634
shut the fuck up you millennial pussy.
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Prod is dead
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bump off last page
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>2 days from NAMM
>all we know is the Korg Minilogue, Waldorf synths, and this pic
Really big year or really disappointing one prod?
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>>61870102
Meh.
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Okay goys what are some recommended headphones? Also recommendations on a keyboard? Do I need velocity pads?
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>>61870165
>dat pentagram tat
Great, time to go fap
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>>61870165
Price range or nah?
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>>61870346
Headphones like 100-150 and keyboard like 300ish. Something that works well with ableton preferably
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>>61870165
korg microkey, ath-50x, depends on what are you into
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>>61870102
how much is usually leaked early?
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Is there a way to manipulate my synths via controller in ableton? I want to lay down some chords and change the settings while they play for cool sounds
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>>61870496
>not naming the file mantheharpoons.png
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>>61870416
AKG 612. for keyboard get the Alesis V61

>>61870496
Yes, assign MIDI parameters to MIDI knobs on your controller.
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>>61870165
>>61870496
>dood! gurlz!
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>>61867262
>progressive house
I really wish people would stop calling this genre that.
This is real progressive house:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYkhznKq6dQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJDx9dUcaGA
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self producing /meta/ here. Why is my amp sim making my sound so muddy? any time i try something a little technical the sound gets lost in distortion. Ive tried turning the drive down but that doesnt really help, and it also makes it weaker too.

I'm using a
>LeGion Poulin
>LeCab2rev1
>highpass filter at 105 hz
>Lowpass filter at 18k hz
>EQ set to 70 hz off the low, 9600 hz off the high, and mids scooped at 1000k.
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who /field recording/ here
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>>61871222
I don't know, but why not scoop the mud instead of the 1k?
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>>61871253
>>61871222
Oh, and I've had luck high-passing electric guitars up to maybe 200 and 300 and preserved a good tone that blended well with the bass elements, if that helps. It depends of course, for me, it was a fast heavy rock/metal sound.
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>>61871228
I want to start, but I don't know what recorder to get.
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>>61871253
what do you mean by mud instead of 1k? But I'll definitely try trimming more off the high pass. thx
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>>61871352
just got a brand new H5 off craigslit for $200
it's nice
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>>61871520
"Mud" is the region around 400-500Hz.

http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm

It might be that you weren't conscious about your word choice and didn't actually mean mud though, but here's a nice guide to a lot of common instrument.
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>>61871571
Are there any good ones under $200?
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>>61864797
ye ur right i was just rly fucking blazed and lazy

>>61866627
if you're using ableton then push is going to perfectly accompany you in my opinion, but again ive never used one myself although i have witnessed some sick live jams from people just pressing buttons, the instrument itself is pretty capable

>>61867917
no

>>61870165
get some senheissers, you want "flat response" (meaning that the headphones will project the "true" spectrum of frequencies of the sound. for example, if your headphones have bass boost, then you will have a distorted perception of the mix of the bass in your tune) with as big a dynamic range as possible, you want them to be able to project as much of the frequency spectrum as possible, especially if you intend to create bass heavy music (dubstep dnb trap hiphop etc). very low and very high frequencies are more felt than heard but still add flavour to your sound

your productions will never sound "proper" from headphones because they are too close to your head and dont properly recreate how people are indulged in sound; for that you will need monitors, or at least somewhere you can "monitor" your sound.


https://clyp.it/pzqcj2sq
anyone into their grime?
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>>61871910
Empty mix is empty.
Better drums, more basses, more sub.
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What would be the closest standalone piece of hardware to Ableton Live's Session View?

I'm looking for something that would have multiple channels/tracks that I could record multiple loops into and switch between the loops on each track live and play the different tracks simultaneously and mix them.

Like I said, basically exactly like a physical hardware version of Ableton's session view. I'm not sure if such a thing exists or not but I wanted to ask.
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>>61872148
more basses...?

there is no sub its just a drum loop to work to while resampling
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I guess this is the right place to ask: Is there a general resource for starting out with electronic production? Specifically synth programming and what all those options do, and what all those effects mean?
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>ridiculously famous blog will premiere my track
I thought this day would never come
hold me /prod/
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>>61872183
some kind of multitrack sampler... mpc or an sp555 or an electribe sampler maybe?
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>>61872713
well fucking done

live the dream my friend
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>>61872713
Link?
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>>61872183

Anything that was able to do that kind of real-time warping to tempo would be as near to a computer as anything else anyway but as >>61872727 said, an MPC with hard disk recording is kinda what Ableton would have used as its metaphor to begin with, before they added all its other features.

Wouldn't be hard to build a box with a PC innards and a Lemur touchscreen (using the LiveControl 2 template maybe? Or the Shove template that emulates Push?) or a launchpad built in.

If it already existed we'd think of it as a hardware box, but remember that all this stuff still runs an OS of some sort and is still a computing device.
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>>61872970
thanks f a m

>>61873012
it's not up yet, but it's NestHQ
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How you guys feel about this track? It's some kind of clash between guitar jazz and bouncy chiptune music. Ran some of the audio into a tape deck and tube amp

https://clyp.it/paobzcls
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If i make a synth patch with high attack, a bit of decay and no release shouldn't it play like a piano, as in if you release the keys the sound immediately stops, and when you hold them down it still slowly decays?

Because i tried that and my synths still sound as long as i hold down the keys. What am i doing wrong?
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>>61874200

lower the sustain
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>>61874200

Sustain level, if set to maximum or a high value, will not allow the decay to, er...decay, to zero.
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>>61874166

the production is fantastic but i dunno about the arrangement, there's some fun chords in there for sure but it feels like it lacks drive/energy. did you play those drums live?
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>tfw you have like 20 pretty good songs written from back when you only played guitar and piano but you just can't translate them into a good sounding synth arrangement

What do?
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How do I get stereo in my headphones when routing ableton output through a scarlett interface?

Am I retarded?
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>>61874166
>>61874498
>it feels like it lacks drive/energy.
I felt the same way as well.

The electric piano chords in the beginning sound very robotic. It might sound better if you cascade the notes in each chord a little bit instead of having them all play at the same exact time. Also might want to try overlaying some manual arpeggiating/soloing played with the same epiano over top it.

Also, the drum break about 3 minutes lacks impact/energy. It sounds to me like the section immediately before it has a tougher kick which the break lacks, making it sound weak by comparison.
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I just bought me a pair of Mackie CR4. Are they any good?
Also, i'm in a pretty small room and the sound i get from my 5.1 system is pretty bad in it, at least if i'm sitting in front of my desk. Is there any way to position my desk better to get better sound?
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>>61874974
>I just bought me a pair of Mackie CR4. Are they any good?

Shouldn't you have asked that question before you made the purchase?
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>>61874852
just plug the headphones into the scarletts headphone output?
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>>61875039
Well, i read reviews and stuff and they seem to be pretty good. just wanted to ask if someone here has any experience with them.
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>>61874827
Use synth patches that mimic the dynamics of a guitar and piano. Approximate the characteristics the best you can with the amplitude envelope and then work on making the rest of the patch conform loosely to the frequency range of the instruments you're trying to mimic. You don't have to try and recreate them completely with synthesis, but if you replicate those two characteristics your songs should translate a lot better to a synth.
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>>61874166

Wow, tough crowd tonight. I've been around here for a year and this is probably one of the best /prod/ tracks I've heard so far
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What are the best Sennheiser model headphones for detailed mixing, engineering, mastering?
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>>61875050
That works, but how would I get stereo output through a single out?

Like the headphones in pic related. Or would those all be mono?
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>>61875060

That's all you need to know then, you did some research and came to your own conclusion - that's good.

As for positioning them, it's the same with all small speakers - looking down from the top it's an equilateral triangle with the speakers at the base and you at the apex, from the side (height-wise) you'll get good results with the tweeters in line with your ears.

Avoid having the speakers positioned too close to a wall, especially if they're rear-ported, and avoid corner-placement too if you can.

If your room is square you have little choice over reflections from the back wall but if you have a room that's more oblong choose to set up so that you're facing the short wall when listening - the longer walls will be at your sides - this way early reflections are slightly less troublesome, only slightly though.
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Anyone have experience with the ath-m40x's? I've been mixing for a year on cheap white 20$ sony cans that got me passable mixes when using reference tracks and such, they just broke and I'm wanting to get something better. I've heard that the m40x are flatter but the highs edge on sibilance and are less precise, but also that they're not that far from the m50x quality wise.
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>listening to old tracks
>they are good
>mfw
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>>61872148
so i took your comment on the chin and decided that i'd put a sub in and generally just try to fill out the loop but then i started to come into some annoying phase issues and now im left with a sub sound that seems to disrupt the mix

>https://clyp.it/dal13ep2

could anyone comment on how i could get this sub bass to meet the mid bass and mix into eachother without the abruptness they have in clyp related
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>>61875099
Actually good advice. I'll look into that
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>>61874166
>https://clyp.it/paobzcls

pretty damn good, guitar isn't completely on time though

>>61875615
>https://clyp.it/dal13ep2

this sounds amazing! low pass filter on the kick please.
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so Tannoy Reveals or JBL LSR305s?
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>>61876016

I own a pair of reveal 8D's and have nothing but good things to say about them
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>>61875956
YOU SHALL NEVER TAKE MY KICKS PASSION

but srsly why would you suggest cutting the highs of the kick? i mean, lots of the harmonics (?) that give the kick its flavour exist higher up the spectrum
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>>61876222

mate there's too much high frequency stuff going on in those kicks
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>>61876358
just for you friendo
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>>61876686

oh god my head hurts just looking at that phase shifting
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>>61876189
well, looks like their latest models are built to shit though
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https://clyp.it/0z35hbdd

I want some feedback on this. It's just supposed to be a collection of random sounds for showing off what I can do. I want to make music for video games. Should I keep making these collections of sounds or make specific songs for possible scenarios? (boss battle, swimming, racing, etc.)

What do you think about the song? I use FL studio (Abelton was too confusing because I'm a pleb.) What should I work on? Idk if this belongs in /v/ or /vg/, but I need help marketing myself. Idk what sites to use? I don't want to have to rely on shameless self promotion.
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>>61876749
i dont really follow?

are the different passes on the EQ going to cause phase disruptions?

even if they do, if they are inaudible to the mix does it even matter?

again, even if they do, can i not realign the phase the be central or rhythmic?
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should i download all the extra additional shit for logic pro x? i just torrented it and im learning how to use it now and dont know if i should get all this shit. it would take 2 hours to download on my 50 ish Mb/s speed
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>>61876936

mate, all EQs phase shift
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>>61877067
yes but in practice what sort of implications would there be if I were to EQ a kick as the pic showed as opposed to just cutting the highs?
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>>61877067
i stopped fucking around and just made a bandpass for the kick but i'm really interested as to why it will cause an issue with phasing if i EQ a kick (or whatever) in the manner shown before
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>>61877194

everytime you cut or boost you displace the phase of a waveform, i.e where it starts. with a transfer function like the pic you posted that'd be a lot of displacement. some people don't mind it though
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>>61877945
sorry i dont mean to be annoying but im just plodding through trying to learn as fast as i can

i cut some shit out to improve the mix and its beginning to glue together quite smoothly

>https://clyp.it/52ioirjs
do you have any other comments to make?

desu cutting the kicks highs made quite an impact ty
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>>61878311

sounds good

FM is a bit basic
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>>61878349
...FM?
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>>61878402
>https://clyp.it/52ioirjs
>...FM?

the stuff you're using to modulate the action of the waveforms. it's pretty simplistic and there's no sub bass
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>>61878467
should there be sub bass in/on my bass stabs?

for example; my sub bass is 49hz. should i EQ my bass stabs so that they slightly cross into the 49-50hz range or should the bands not interact?

>its pretty simplistic
the resampling has just begun
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>>61878676
>should there be sub bass

yes
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>>61878766
thanks for the help m8 much appreciated
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>>61879147

no problemo

make some good shit for us
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I suck at pick'n pluck foam. I have to buy more and not fuck it up this time >:[
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Okay, so I decided to finally buy me some fucking JBL LSR305s (pic above), but my Steinburg UR22 soundcard (pic below) has phono L and R outs, not XLR outs (only ins)

I just wanna know which are the optimum cables to hook the monitors up from my sound card, considering the monitors don't have an unbalanced input socket (balanced/unbalanced still sorta confuses me)
Do I get 2x Male XLR to 1/4 inch stereo jack? (Tip/Ring/Sleeve to XLR)
Or just use 2 stereo 1/4 to 1/4 cables?
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>>61879786
>just use 2 stereo 1/4 to 1/4 cables
yeah, this
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>>61879786
Either friend. Go TRS->TRS or TRS->XLR

They're both work exactly the same, both will be balanced and both will carry the same signal without loss or interference. I had to make the same choice with my monitors/monitor station/subwoofer back in the day, so I just mixed it up a little, some cables are XLR->TRS, some are TRS->TRS, i figured the variety would be good in case I need or want to use them for other things down the line.
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>>61879879
>>61879888
Thanku for the swift reply ~<3
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>>61879935
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https://clyp.it/bkm43ee4

am I an awful person for even trying this?
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>>61879879
>>61879888
whaaaat? why would you use TRS on balanced outputs? So no, buy mono cables not stereo...
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>>61856626
how do I learn mastering?
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>>61880912
because its supposed to be a balanced connection. A mono cable is unbalanced. With a cable run that short it really doesn't matter, but balanced is the correct way.
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how many semitones of compression should I put on my master mix busschannell?
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>>61880860
lol'd

yes you're a bad person

needs more sub
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>>61880919

>put a limiter on master buss
>increase gain
>modern mastering
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>>61880988
can somebody please tell me about how many semitones it takes to compress the peak clip to equalize my master? for fuck's sake
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>>61881539

Semitones are pitch. Do you mean decibels?
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>>61881549
I tried using Melodine VST to compress at a high semitone level but the DkB level on my master just kept soft clipping. is there a way to remedy this?
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>>61871228
I do a lot of field recordings on my shitty zoom h2n fucking love it for portability, the MS stereo/surround function and the fact that it can easily fit in my pocket so I can take it /out/ with me.
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>>61881604

You aren't funny dude.
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>>61881656
get a sense of humor retard

i bet you use sausage fattener on your master you fucking faggot
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>>61881702
Your not even in the slightest bit funny mate.

The only person round here using a sausage fattener is you, pencil dick.
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>>61870102
Can't wait for the new Pittsburgh modular stuff in February
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>>61881846
>your

just kill you'reself rn famalam
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>tfw I might engineer some recording sessions for Wiz Khalifa, Flo Rida and/or Nicki Minaj

does this mean I have to start listening to their music
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>>61863378
>Don't just mess around looking for happy accidents
Ive been producing for 15 years. This is all I've ever done. I just open up my daw and fuck about with a few samples until I like what I hear and then start building a track around that...I have never visualised a track before and built from that idea
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>>61881921
>you'reself
>familam
Ok matey
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>>61881993
you're so autistic you probably think there's such thing as "analog distortion". tape kek
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>>61881933
Fortunately, no.

Watch out for Nicki. Wiz is cool though.
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>>61856626
/prod/, looks like I can pick up these from a friend of a friend for about 700 NZD ( about 450 USD). Anyone got some?? I think I want to start playing shows and I am guessing this may be a starting point?
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bump
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>>61877067
Not linear phase EQs.
FabFilter Pro-Q 1 and 2 have a zero latency, natural phase and linear phase mode.
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>>61882193
maybe he's an ok guy, but his music is the worst out of all three of those guys
Nicki > Flo Rida > Wiz
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>>61883300
Yeah but tbf:

Poo Poo >> Nicki > Flo Rida > Wiz
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>>61882967
>Not putting drums in mono in 2016
>Not using parallel compression in 2016
The fucking kick is literally a flatline, kill me guys I wish i never fucking heard this. Literally just google "pultec eq trick" and go to google images or download / buy the fucking pultec plugin and your drums will knock, this is fucking dreadful.
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>>61874166
I love the drums, they really make my head nod along.

They seem unprocessed though, maybe do a 6db cut on 500Hz to clean it up, among other things?

Otherwise, lots of good ideas here. I'd try to make it shorter to concentrate the cool. The intro for example is kind of boring and robotic. Have a melody along with the piano chords, or maybe just cut that section shorter, or both.
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>>61882352
>700 NZD
nazi dollars?
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>>61883801
>mono drums
Enjoy your flat mix family. At the very least pan the hi hats.
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>>61872183
Ableton Push is exactly that
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>>61883801

Can you elaborate further?
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>>61884108
Don't you need a computer to run push though?
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Is there some complete beginners guide? The mu-sic-production wiki is weird and explains little to nothing.

Lets say I want to make minimal techno, I have a computer with Ableton. Now what?
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>>61883801
Lower harmonics and maybe low mids = mono.
Everything else = stereo.
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https://clyp.it/xf2jlgta
anyone got mixing feedback?
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>>61884290
I don't know. I don't think so. I did see a guide on making eurobeat on some forum once. You could try googling for that. The most reliable way of learning is self-learning and your own analytical skills and actually caring enough to explore Youtube and instruction manuals on your own.
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>>61884363
>https://clyp.it/xf2jlgta
omg I love that noise on the sides, it feels as if I'm being tickled. You should make more music like this, it's an untapped spring.

The mix is lovely, but feels too muddy/boomy. I'd consider trying to clean up the low-end. That would do you mix justice.
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>>61884395
thanks a bunch mane
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>>61872183
The novation Launchpad is very close to that, if thats what you mean. I kinda like it, its useful and a nice controller you can control volume, delay and stuff
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>>61884290
bruv
really
it's called "google"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7xUrJ0gx_M
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>>61884290
"goggle pls how do i maek the minimal technoz in Ableton"

"here anon have these five thousand step by step videos on that exact subject"
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>>61884303
mono drums are more punchy they say. I am wondering how to program those as there are no mono midi signals. Can anyone help me??
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>>61885148

You still arent funny, could you stop?
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>>61885148
decrease the width of the track with for example the kick sound signal to 0% / put the track in mono
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>>61885186
????
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>>61885205
>mono midi signals

Top maymay just ebin
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>>61885222
ok.
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>>61885193
which plugin do i need for that?
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>>61885251
No plugin, it usually is an option beside the panning wheel on each track
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>>61885251
>>61885343
But you could also just read the fucking instruction manual for your daw
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>>61885355
solid advice. thanks!
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https://clyp.it/vv4w5pue

tweaking my mix, any advice?
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>>61885451
don't u ever post that motherfucker around here again? u hear me?

that track is pretty good though
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https://clyp.it/wyhuxqil

I'm working on this beat, what do you guys think?
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>>61885451
is there a problem here?
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>>61885186
>anime poster dictates what is and isn't funny

oh the ironing
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>>61885563
maybe try a clap/snare sound with more presence
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>>61885239
Ignore the autismlords, Mono drums might be punchier, but be ready for your mix to sound flat as fuck if you don't do any panning.
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How long do you need to be producing before you're good enough to get a record deal?
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>>61885748
i usually leave the drums mono and add some stereo delays and reverbs with high pass filtering
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>>61885749
This is a stupid question. It has nothing to do with time, only the quality of your work. Some people need like 2 years, others need 10.
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https://clyp.it/doos4pff

How can I improve on this niggas
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>>61885885
I seriously love it, but I feel it lacks some kind of balance across the frequency spectrum. Do you have something going on in all the frequncy areas? 500Hz, 1kHz and 2kHz? There are some really sharp sounds here and some really boomy/muddy ones, but I feel there's something lacking inbetween. I don't know what though, so take it with a grain of salt.
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