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ITT post:
>Recent purchases
>setups
>questions
>cool stuff in your collection
>meme on OP for liking oasis
Does vinyl have better sound quality than CD?
>listens to tubular bells once
should I get the AT LP60 wUSB?
Is the 120 really that different?
I recently got;
>Godspeed You! Black Emperor -f#a# infinity
>Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists
>ITAOS
>We Lost The Sea - Departure Songs
How did I do?
I regret buying a TT....fuck vinyl
>>61801239
Nice fayce (:
It depends. I like the sound quality more
>>61801303
This is my first time listening to it. It's ok I guess. It was for sale for $2 and is in good condition so why the hell not. I also bought a yes album.
>>61801345
Nice, Godspeed especially.
Why the fuck do you guys spend so much on something that is bulkier than a CD, requires more equipment to use, with sound quality that is debatably better, and if it is better, is mostly down to placebo?
My recent four purchases
>>61801428
wow, I have a different preference than yours.
Obviously yours is better.
I'm sorry for being such a pleb
>>61801419
Why do you like the sound of vinyl more?
>>61801428
I like vinyl because it's more interesting than CD.
It takes time to collect and it requires a lot of care.
Im not going to meme and say it's a better way to appreciate an artist, however I think vinyl looks nice and requires social interaction and travel to get which is nice.
CD is only used in my car. I buy CD's as well mostly if I want something new to listen to.
>>61801466
I'm just asking, anon. It makes no sense. Records are 25 each for a good one at a record store here in Ballard (Bop Street). CDs are 20, max, and require only a CD drive to play. A good turntable alone will set you back 100+ dollars.
>>61801471
I think it's more organic. CD is sometimes too clean cut for me and vinyl has sort of a warm soind to it.
Digital Is just meh to me.
>>61801471
>>61801239
who is this horseface?
>>61801239
Not really but only CD really compares aside from high quality rips.
But I'd much rather buy a vinyl than a CD if I'm going to bother with physical format. I don't even really have many that play CDs anymore. So might as well go with the format that's large enough to appreciate and has better market value
>>61801541
this desu
Latest cops.
>>61801428
I like the experience of putting a record on. I think it does sound a little bit better, and it's a different feeling when you listen to a record and sit down to write a paper than when you're listening to digital. I can't explain it, it just feels better. That's just for me personally, I respect anyone else's preferences. But I like doing that
>>61801164
What did you think of California by Mr. Bungle? I couldn't imagine you liking the wacky metal tracks but retrovertigo sweet charity and pink cigarette are universal right?
>>61801164
>liking oasis
Been working on finally cataloging all my records. Little over halfway right now at 101.
Might post the list here when I'm done
>>61801656
California is OK. I don't care for mr bungle as a whole but I didint dislike California
>>61801541
I understand what you're saying.
Regardless of sound, I like the whole process of vinyl.
I like how the album art is big
I like how the disc is big
I like how when I accidently bump my desk the record skips a little
And lastly, it's a homage to a different time.
Media is digital in the 21st century.
Blackstar has hit like £40 minimum on discogs lel
>>61801805
I also like pressing the button to start and stop, pressing up down
>>61801541
You can find good deals on vinyl if you're thrifty. Of course brand new shit might be like 10 bucks more than a CD. But if the point is to physically own and collect you might as well go with format that isn't some tiny cheap jewel case.
It's probably different for people with dedicated CD players but for me I would just burn it to a hard drive and never think about it again. So I might as well stream or download it at that rate
>>61801590
nice talking heads
>>61801329
Just save and get the 120
>>61801329
>Is the 120 really that different?
Yes, it actually is a competent turntable
I got a crosley :^(
>>61801164
Tempted to start collecting vinyl.
What are the pros and cons?
I literally know nothing. I have a few vinyl film sound tracks. Got the original 77 Starwars LP
pic unrelated.
>>61801164
look!!!! vinyl!!!!!!!! pay attention to me!!!!!!!!1!!!
shut the fuck up, vinyl is the gluten free of music
>>61801992
is there really that much difference between the two?
>>61802228
Anti-vinyl shitters are actually.
You all fit the "how do you spot a gluten free/vegan" stereotype of having to announce your view every chance you get
>>61802270
not liking vinyl is an irrational contrarian contention
>>61802228
Just how angry are you right now?
>>61802227
Pros
>looks sexy
>is a great hobby that requires time
>vinyl contains cool packaging
>better sound if you have a good record player
>requires interaction to get
>great community
>it's fun
>you can appreciate the art of making music more
Cons
>expensive to buy new stuff (if you look hard you can find good albums for cheap)
>good record players cost a ton
>you can't play vinyl everywhere.
>not the most efficient thing
>hard to upkeep
I mightve posted this in another thread but these are the soundtracks I have.
As far as your questions it's for people into collecting music and appreciate the artwork and packaging. You also have yo be into listening to albums as whole instead song by song
>>61801714
fuck, do you have the original video for this? I remember it being pretty funny
>61802357
Meant to reply to >>61802227
>>61802229
Are you blind? AT-LP120 has counterweight, anti-skating, standard cart mount, everything that makes a turntable good. AT-LP60 has none of that, tracks heavily and lower quality overall.
S/o vinyl me please
not senpai
>>61802465
Also here's latest pickups
Posted in the last one right before it died, current pickups.
>>61802487
>>61802465
Sup fellow Vinylmeplease buddy. I haven't listened to my copy yet.
>>61802357
Nice, I never find good soundtracks at my shop.
>>61802228
>gluten free of music
I'm a vinylfag and this made me laugh
So true
recents
>>61802357
tite. rly wish i owned that amadeus record
>>61801805
>I like how when I accidently [sic] bump my desk the record skips a little
you masochist
recent gets
>>61802544
My receiver is fucked so neither have I. Never heard the album before
>>61802383
nah sorry mate, I just saw it in another thread recently about how liking Oasis is retarded
don't even have any idea what the source is either
>>61802357
Gonna rotate sideways but here's my apocalypse now st copy
>>61802582
Ayy Busdriver. Not familiar with that particular Miles album, but I like him in general. Nice.
>>61802582
Nice one on Jhelli Beam and Excavation
>>61802611
Nice find with Sung Tongs
>>61802618
I never have either. My setup's fine though, I'm just being lazy.
>bought an old record player at a flea market
>they claim it was just played a few days ago
>get it home and the turntable doesn't turn
>dad forcefully turns it and says its too tight
>tell him to google it before he messes anything up
>he pokes and prods and pulls on shit for over an hour
>i go and google around and find out about seized turntables first result
>find a video that walks you through the steps to fix it
>he wont go watch it
>bring the video on a tablet for him to watch
>wont watch it
>finally just start relaying what the guy in the video says to do
>lightly pry up the decorative ring and pull out the pin
>he crams a screwdriver in and yanks the pin out without removing the decorative ring
>platter doesn't lift so hardened grease probably IS the issue
>claims the decorative ring doesn't come off
the thing is i'm afraid he'll mess more up if he gets it open to fix the issue. he wont let me touch it. wat do
>>61802790
Tell him to fuck off and get his own TT to destroy
Do you all AT memers know that they're just a cheap ripoff?
>>61802582
Thanks I'm hoping to find first Amadeus soundtrack if I ever come across it
>>61802639
That's awesome. Apocalypse Now is one of favorite movies
>>61802911
>cheap rip off
you uhh.... you realize that the bearing, motor, tonearm, platter, plinth, and feet are all better or at part with the 1200 though right?
>>61801164
Just got this, just played it. One of the best albums I've ever heard on vinyl. Everything was crystal clear, from base to high hats. And Cornell's voice is rich and full of emotion. I can't get enough of it.
>>61802911
Yes. A clone for 1/4 the price of the original.
>>61802790
I went through this kind of shit twice before I broke down and just bought a new modern turntable
>>61802964
Bass*, fuck.
>>61802962
>better
sure friendo, the 1200 is a classic for a reason
but keep supporting a shitty company of thieves, it's ok
>>61802790
Fix it yourself?
These came in the mail today, almost a week early, fucking sweet
good god do i need a new camera and better lights
>>61802970
A cheap plastic clone made by thieves.
>>61803082
The new reissues are here already?
>>61803023
>for a reason
yes, because clubs for years bought the most resilient and easily replaceable hardware for the job. Which doesn't mean quality, it meant reliability, which are not tit for tat.
If a deejays any time from the early 80's until turntables fell out of style had an option to buy whatever they wanted at home, but when the would be playing out (generally the goal of being deejay) they were going to play on house decks, which meant it was best to buy if you could afford what the places you were going to play already has. ie: 1200's
As far as technology is concerned, for home listening the 1300 and 1900/50 are the exact tables with an automatic return fuction, which you can disable, which for whatever reason you bandwagon jumpers never seem to mention ( likely because you didn't fucking know due to you being god danged cluseless). And as far as hifi is concerned there has always been better home tables, at the same price, mind what was available at higher prices.
So yes, they are in fact a classic for a reason, but that reason is because they are the checker cab of turntables, not the maybach
as a side note, i never said the lp120 was a good table, just that its par with the 1200 which is a true statement
>>61803112
It would seem so! I don't feel like pulling them out again to take another pic but they're definitely the new colored ones
>>61802465
That's not even the best nada surf album desu
What kind of cables would I need to connect my AT LP 120 to JBL LSR305 speakers??
The LP 120 has rca output and the speakers take 1/4 inch and xlr inputs.
Anyone have any suggestions I really don't want to blow 20 bucks on the wrong cable.
>>61803297
you need an rca to 1/4, but I would suggest a pre amp, the one built in doesn't sound very desirable.
obviously get the cable and get your set up up and running before worrying about the pre amp, but as soon as you can afford getting a pre amp you should.
also, remember when you do get a pre amp to change the settings from powered to passive on the deck.
>>61803347
http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-Cable-GPR101-Inch-Adaptor/dp/B000068O3S
so something like this? Sorry I am new to speakers and audio equipment, so I really do not know shit.
And yeah eventually I will upgrade, but slowly and surely haha.
>>61803041
>>61802808
wont let me touch it
>>61802981
sounds like its a very very common and annoying issue
if the platter wont lift after the pin is removed its definitely 100% hardened grease right? you can wiggle it and jimmy it around it will barely budge
>>61803410
that should work, you'll just have to seperate your rca cable if you do it that way.
Dont go too cheap on cables either, these are analog cables and have the potential to add a 60hz hum if they lay over power mains or other things plugged in. Just something to keep in mind.
Check out mono price for cables and adapters and connection, their premium lines are really cheap and are well made.
and for a pre amp, you can get really cheap stuff that are easily as effective as stuff a little better, but get you off of the built in pre amp on the deck. My buddies got the 120 and the difference is noticable. your millage may vary.
These two are more than enough, and your speakers will limit your sound before either of these are noticably bad/worse sounding for your set up to deem spending any more
http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-PP400-BEHRINGER-MICROPHONO/dp/B000H2BC4E/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1453001802&sr=8-3&keywords=phono+pre
http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453001802&sr=8-1&keywords=phono+pre
I recently got a decent setup second hand and shit's already getting fucked. One speaker just stops working occasionally unless I bang my fist on the desk the table's on or lightly press down on the cartridge. I know putting extra weight on your cartridge can ruin your records, so I'm staying away from that. I don't know what's fucking up, the table, the cartridge, the receiver, or the speakers.
I'd assume it's probably the table or cartridge, but tons of resources I've looked up blame the receiver. Granted, none of the cases I've found online have had my same problem.
I would just swap stuff around and check but I'm stuck with one piece of each, and I'd rather spend money on more records than a completely new setup. Any tips?
>>61803517
did you actually set up the table? Set the height, antiskate, tracking, align the cartidge, weight?
I have found on /mu/ and /g/ most of you new lp friends do not actually set up your tables at all
>>61803651
It's a JVC AL-A155, p-mount, so no set up on the table that I know of.
>>61803502
By separate my rca cable, you just mean separate the two wires right??
I saved the preamps to my amazon cart and will look into upgrading in a couple paychecks or so. Thanks for the advice man.
>>61803709
yea, I just meant that you have to pull them apart to go to each speaker, so you mind that when you buy the rca cable. I think monoprice has them seperate but im not 100% on that.
also, good luck and enjoy your set up.
Decide for yourself it you really want a pre, or you are okay with what you've got, but also mind that amazon will return the item, you just have to print shipping for th return and drop it off at a ups store. you just lose the shipping cost if you do this.
>>61803438
Uh, it's not his though right? What a shithead.
>>61803706
so it seems. then I am not certain. Its hard to tell then. Might just have to add minor weight to it like you were thinking.
Both my parents told me seperately they would tape pennys to the back of their carts because they would sound better.
should you? probably not, but 5-10 plays is no worse than what was likely done to a lot of the used records most of us have in our collections.
If the ends of the inner sleeve of my record are kinda fucked, can I staple them back together
What are some good turntable brands or models? Been looking for vintage ones on Craigslist and eBay. Trying to not spend more than $100.
>>61803858
I'd try tape or glue a million years before staples, the fuck
Listening to the VMP Nada Surf. I've never listened to it before but I'm really digging it.
>>61803858
I wouldn't because the staple could tear the sleeve, or scratch the record. I usually just keep a few of these on hand: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B1V2FA0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00
I always replace the inner sleeve if it's just a cheap paper one with no art/credits. Unless it's one of the nice paper+rice paper ones. I like those but they're pricey.
If your paper inner sleeve has art, just store the record in a poly one, and keep the art sleeve in the outer sleeve next to the record. Helps keep tearing down.
>>61803818
I've been thinking about just giving in and going for the good ol' penny trick. I can't even enjoy listening to my records anymore cause I'm consonantly checking to see if one of the channels went out.
Maybe just as a temporary fix or something, but still, it feels wrong.
Thanks for the advice, anon.
>>61801345
Photos pls my dude
>>61804026
yea, just start working towards something else if at all possible, its disheartening to think you probably spent some bucks already to get into the door to get the door slammed shut.
unfortunately the shit our parents, or possibly grandparents used was generally oem store brand garbage, it was good enough for them, but barely worked as it was at that time.
A lot of people seem to like the uturn orbits, the bottem end rega's and music halls. All of which i think are under 500, if you like the 1200's look but want a better modern table search the term "super oem" which the lp1240 seems to go for 400, while the stanton st150 (which is the same inerntals) is around 600.
Theres a lot of options, but you probably are not going to absolutely destroy your records.
Keep in mind as well, your needle plays the sides of the gooves, no the bottom, the weight just adds a little more friction to the walls of the groove, its not like adding weight just gouges the shit out.
>>61803904
>>61803911
Pic related. I don't know if you can see the record exposed.
>>61804121
to add to this, this video is intersting all around, but the important shit is around 4:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCdsyCWmt8
>>61801590
envious of that ween
>>61801541
Well I personally dont collect vinyls exclusively, but the vinyls I do buy are albums that hold some kind of special value to me. I enjoy the tactile experience of a big piece of art, the large physical copy of the music, and the other goodies that are often packaged with it
For a long while I was purely digital, and I found myself far less invested in my music library, just flippantly skipping through songs on my ipod
With my vinyls I have a whole ritual involved with listening to the album. Its just total comfyness, it makes me feel like I'm having a fuller experience with the music, like it has more value
It is an expensive hobby I will give you that. But considering how little I have spent on media in the last decade I'm not complaining
>>61804347
>But considering how little I have spent on media in the last decade I'm not complaining
This is a line I think we will be reading/thinking/hearing more going into the future as this next/current generation moves into jobs, and adulthood.
>>61804121
>>61804181
Yeah, it's a bit disappointing but I expected to have problems when I decided to get into vinyl.
I gathered the setup from a variety of family friends over the last year, it's all their old stuff. I know none of it is top of the line so my plan was to start cheap and upgrade anyway. Guess I just gotta start a bit earlier than expected.
Thanks for the suggestions (and advice again), I'll look into them.
Still waiting on my copies of TNT and the Mother 2 OST.
>>61804479
dat expedit. so fucking pissed i have to live with a kallax now
>>61804464
one other brand that has entry level tables (worth looking at) is pro-ject.
but, dont beat yourself up, play what you've got now and enjoy it. dont burn yourself up by constantly having the upgrade bug or you'll quickly learn to never be happy with what you currently have.
lift you skinny fists
>>61804512
That's a kallax that I have too. Is there more differences than just the name?
I posted in this thread earlier but just got done cataloging all 163 vinyl records Ive accumulated over the years. There's a lot of older stuff because theyre usually cheaper or given to me.
>>61804678
forgot link
http://www.discogs.com/user/ivanly/collection?sort=rating&folder=0&sort_order=desc&limit=250&layout=big
>>61804678
>>61804795
you would probably like kansas and the moody blues.
you should look into the rest of elo and jim croce's discographys, there is more fro them to be found.
>>61804863
I've listened to a good amount of the moody blues and elo, I just don't own all of it
>>61804147
What should I do with this?
>>61804479
Think the Hot Springs variant is worth buying?
>>61805666
That's the one I got, but only because after my buddy got the black/red one it was sold out, and I didn't like the blue/yellow one.
