>Production Resources:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles, tutorials and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q (embed)
>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors (wink, wink, WINK)
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com
>Essential Listening:
https://clyp.it/5mmq5gsu
>>61742393
That chair looks super comfy
Are presets really that bad?
>>61742528
No but there's still the matter of that douchebag who thinks Sonny just used effects to get his sound.
>>61742528
No but they could be considered limiting yourself. I wouldn't stress over it if you don't have years of experience though
>>61742528
Presets aren't bad, but you shouldn't use them as a crutch.
>>61742528
no
that's the only answer you need
>>61742528
Absolutely not
If it's your style you tend to grow out of them at some point, doesn't make them bad
otherwise we might as well be talking about making drums out of goat skins to be authentic
>>61742601
>not building your own xenharmonic harpsichord
maximum pleb
>>61742528
yours are, scrub
>>61743419
sikk burn bro XD
yo let everybody use presets or not use presets as they want, last thread was enough discussion about this
also, nice lunga
I want to kill myself
>>61744149
Don't anon
>>61744149
Why?
https://clyp.it/g5q3few1
I've been working on a big prog rock song inspired by a trip to Paris in Summer 2015, featuring actual samples I recorded onboard the Eurostar. What does /prod/ think of it so far? In paritcular, can I do anything to improve the sound of the middle keyboard solo and the sound of the drums throughout?
I sold my old hardware and got ~450€ to spend on new stuff.
Should i get the Ableton Push MK1 with some other stuff or is the Push MK2 worth the extra money?
What's most important when just starting out? Should I focus on familiarizing myself with my DAW and plugins, being able to utilize them to their best potential or composition, understanding music theory, etc
I know both are required but I'm trying to avoid getting overwhelmed from the start.
>>61745087
Get the MK1
>>61745100
Start with music, then move to sound design and mixing/mastering. But you should familiarize yourself with the DAW and try to experiment with it.
I want to do 100% Ambient/Drone mix/podcasts. Which gear should i get ? Traktor X1 maybe? Do you think its possible ?
>>61745179
Alright, seems like I'm more or less on the right path then, thanks.
>>61745222
Sure.
>>61745262
You're welcome.
>>61745283
Even if the X1 doesnt have volume buttons?
>>61745362
I'm guessing you're on a budget, besides, it has sufficient controls for podcasts, you can use it with another generic MIDI controller like a cheap Evolution one so you can assign parameters.
Are the Behringer Xenyx USB series actually good audio interfaces?
bump
>>61745653
i kind of doubt it with the quality of their other stuff
>>61742528
Only pop producers use them.
Are KRK monitors any good?
I have a budget of 300€ and i need two solid speakers because i'm fucking tired of producing shit on headphones and having to do final mixes at my friend's who has a surround system
>>61747235
Yes.
>>61747290
Good. Do i need anything else, like a mixing table or a preamp for these or do they plug into the computer via aux? (i know they are active speakers, just making sure as i've never used monitors before)
>>61747363
Aux.
Well, /prod/, this is it
I'm about to plug in my push and fire up ableton for the first time.
Any sage words of advice for a stone cold newb?
>>61748316
Good luck.
>>61748316
Make breakbeats with it out of old samples. I'd upload some but they died when I had to reset my computer. Had tons of fun with the Push and am going to start remaking beats with it soon.
Same here mang. No knowledge of Ableton and i ordered a Push. I wanna wait for it so i can learn both at the same time.
>>61748489
meant for
>>61748316
https://clyp.it/i4oavv0l
making a beat. dont know if the "heavy" drums are dope or stupid. some feedback is very welcome
>>61748403
Fug it I'm breaking it out right now after making some synth samples.
>>61748538
That's chill, sorry for nothing more constructive.
>>61748489
We're in this together now.
(im this guy >>61748538 )
thinking of getting a used sp-404sx. anyone here have one and use it in combination with FL to make phat beets? only hardware I got at the moment is a volca keys which im probably gonna sell since I never use it.
>>61748662
I really do appreciate that tho
>>61748538
I like it
Those pads are nice and subtle and I dont think the drums are too heavy. Nice vocal sample too.
>>61748888
chekd and thanks
what do you think? worth the buy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuZpEtZF-hg
>>61742528
look at it this way: a piano is technically a preset, a 303 *certainly* is. what matters is what you make of them, but if overuse them then it just makes you look lazy. it's only something other producers will hassle you about though. literally no one will give a shit if your songs are good.
>>61748945
I'd say so. There's quite a few fantastic sounds in that demo and I think there's still quite a few features he didn't use. I would have loved to have seen more random lfo and cross mod with detuning oscillators
>>61748538
What did you use to make that silky pad?
>>61748974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfbngXWp0cw
I took the first little note (not the chord, the very first little thing) and threw it into kontakt, set up loop points and messed around with the envelope a bit
>>61749068
gotcha
I just loaded up my editor to see if I could recreate it on my tx81z as FM is pretty decent at almost getting that rhodes electric piano sound. I was wondering if you made a patch that emulated electric piano that well because I usually end up sampling a few notes or chords as it's just way way better
Cheers
Now I've been producing house since 2012 but I figured it was time to get more serious about my work so I ventured into /classical/ a month ago in an attempt to educate myself on and yada yada yada I ended up putting myself thorough a pretty rigorous study on proper 'Art Music' (and not just freaking Hans Zimmer soundtracks like before.. f'king lol!).
So after entering that void and forgetting about every other kind of music I'd listened to before, the first thing I immediately went back to to try out my new ears on after my month of Debussy, Brahms, Mussorgsky, and the list goes on and on... were my own tracks (Or should I say my own "endless loops?"). And well, bluntly put I just don't think I would be artistically comfortable with myself making strictly dance music anymore. Now of course I know about all the stuff like Ceephax, BoC, Venetian Snares- all that Planet Mu/Warp type of jazz of course but too much of that stuff is too much in the head instead of in the groove. And I still need my tunes to be able to work on the dancefloor.
Basically I want my next songs to still be dancey but not at all as repetitive. They should have some vivid flow without completely forgoing the groove too, you know? If It helps, if I could think of any label closest to what I would be trying to do it would sort of be like "Intelligent" Nu-Disco" hahaah. Does anyone know any music theory tips and topics I should look into for making this sort of music or have any contemporary artists who strike this exact balance whose methods I could study?
tl;dr- How do I turn my Soundcloud Tracks into full-blown Soundcloud Pieces?
>>61749204
Savant sounds like an artist worth looking into then.
>>61747135
but that's not true at all
>>61748788
here are some cautionary words about how i ended up not liking mine as a sampler very much, i paste this for everyone who is talking about getting a 404
you can sample at a specified tempo, but not resample at one. so when you're resampling or sampling at a non-specified tempo it will display a whole number as the tempo but there is actually a decimal point you can't see, so loops that say they're the same tempo can go out of sync. you can't record a new sample while another sample is playing (no playing a synth or drums or whatever over a sample and recording it onto a pad). you can only resample up to 4 samples at once, 2 if they're in stereo, and you can't resample a recorded pattern, only playing in real time. the start and endpoint knobs only do fine adjustments of like 100ms, other than that you have to play the sample through and hit the marker button to mark start and end points or exit and re-enter the start/end point menu to keep using the knobs to take off another 100ms. there's also no sampling across multiple pads or dividing an existing sample across multiple pads, so you would have to do what i just mentioned with a longer sample you recorded and keep duplicating it to new pads, unless you were going to stop the audio on whatever you were sampling from and restart it every time you recorded a new sample (also if you were to do this, it forgets the tempo you specified for each new sample). other than that, the pitch and timeshifting just never really sounded that great to me.
>>61749068
Did you sample that from a few prod threads ago?
>>61749376
no. was just looking for samples on youtube and came across that
Is there any way in the modern world to make enough money off music to pay my rent and survive? I've been unemployed for the last 8 months and I've kind of grown attached to working out 2 hours a day then playing vidya and making music for the rest and really don't want to go back to the rat race. Unfortunately I have no real network or contacts right now.
>>61749564
>working out 2 hours a day then playing vidya and making music for the rest
sounds lovely but how do you survive?
>>61749576
Unemployment the first 6 months and cashing out my profit sharing for the last 2. It's not the NEET paradise /jp/ has been selling but once you hit a decent rhythm and find ways around boredom it's not too bad. Money is starting to run down though so I have to get an income soon one way or another.
>>61749564
Get a side job and work on music, if it gets big, then you quit side job and live off of music. You're gonna have to sacrifice free time unfortunately, and if you want to make it, you sure as hell ain't gonna do it with 2 hours a day. I'm talking 8 hours of work, 8 hours of music and 8 hours of sleep kinda deal.
>>61749564
Get a part-time job at least.
Fuck, you guys are so lazy sometimes. I make a living off music and the ideal you guys have of working with it is nowhere near the real thing. I love it, but it's stressful, the income varies a lot at the beginning and often takes more than the 8-11 hours a day most of my previous jobs did. You don't get to just sit around and play games or jam for yourself. I have synths sitting here untouched for months, and had less than a week to myself in 2015.
There are more than one way of earning money from music.
anyone have one of or know about the quality?
>>61750204
It's alright.
>>61750204
Korg are alright
Got some more work in on the compressor. Ditched the auto makeup-gain cause nobody likes that feature anyway and I couldn't get the math right. However, I got RMS and peak settings working just right, and the peak setting is reading at the ridiculously fast rate of 2 samples - i.e a reaction time/refresh rate of 45 microseconds! The only compressor I know that does this faster is Stillwell's The Rocket at 1 sample. Right window shows some of the nuts and bolts working inside.
to anyone here that mainly does EDM/dance/electronic stuff;
what does your synth bus look like? EQ/Drive/Imager/Compression/Limiter?
>>61750351
It's different every time desu senpai.
>>61750351
synth -> fun effects > compression > reverb > EQ
nothing of that is set in stone, but only use limiter on the master
>>61750328
Is that pd? Where did you learn? Tell me your secrets
>>61750802
>Is that pd?
yes
>Where did you learn?
Started following basic tutorials very recently and building on that knowledge.
>Tell me your secrets
Start with these:
http://www.pd-tutorial.com/english/
https://flossmanuals.net/pure-data/
Use google a lot and ask the Pure Data Facebook group (they're REALLY helpful). Forums are a bit dead but there's a ton of info still lying around.
It's all pretty simple once you figure out the basic logic of things, connections etc, then it's just a matter of figuring out how to do something you want. Doesn't have to get very math-intense unless you want to.
Once you figure the basic stuff out you don't have to be restrained to pure data documentation, you can just google "DSP + whatever" since you can just take the math/logic into PD and have an effect come out the other end.
>>61751100
Thanks senpai
do pedals like pic related do the same thing as vsts like wave arts noise reduction? because that seemed to work really well when i was just recording various sounds at my desk with my zoom h1 or the builtin mic on my vs20 and making drum hits or whatever out of them but if i could get the same kind of noise reduction capabilities in my hardware setup with just a pedal
>>61751284
god dammit, i forget pictures a lot
>>61748316
How are things going with the Push/Ableton?
>>61749268
Savant is kind of too much brostep electro house while I am doing a much more tropical sound.
>>61751284
Pretty much the same thing, it's pretty basic math going into those
>low level, low amount of change = noise
>mid-high level, high amount of change = music
>subtract
>>61751339
Kygo, Flume?
>>61751456
Not him but Kygo definitely sounds like what he's talking about. Matoma maybe too
>>61751328
I've been dicking around for about an hour. Things are still sounding pretty cheesy. I'm still in the dark about routing to audio tracks to use devices.
I'm about to start going through the tutorials.
>>61751328
>>61751498
A couple things so far:
When in note mode, it's frustrating that it doesn't show you which notes are outside of the range of an instrument. There's also no indication of what octave range you're in, as far as I can tell.
The accent feature is almost too sensitive. You have to beat the shit out of the pad to get a decent velocity.
is this where you dump wips?
https://clyp.it/d02xss5i
>>61751780
>The accent feature is almost too sensitive. You have to beat the shit out of the pad to get a decent velocity.
You can change this somewhere I believe, though I don't remember where right now.
>mfw trying to properly warp an old 60s doo wop song where the timing is all over the place and I have to put a million markers in
>tfw DAWs don't support xenrhythms
Why live.
>>61751780
if it's the original Push you're on hold the User button down and you can adjust pad sensitivity. I keep mine around -11.
>>61752073
It's the Push 2. Holding the setup button next to the user seems to do the trick. Thanks.
>>61752181
oh damn that's disappointing to hear that the pads are hard as fuck on the 2 as well.
>>61748538
this shit is right yo
>>61751453
nice
in that case, any other suggestions for noise suppressing pedals?
>>61752297
try a decimator II
>>61752033
>not writing your own DAW
who else here /producingatstarbucks/?
>>61752544
>>61752544
But why
>>61751485
>>61751456
I checked these out and they are ok but both of the artists seem to be too involved with EDM while I am trying to make something a bit more subtle.
>>61752544
What exactly is that in his lap because it looks like a keytar?
>>61752639
Looks like a "shoulder synth"
>>61752544
Is this Billy Corgan when he did his 8 hour abstract music sets at the tea shop he owns?
>>61752544
I know he's actually performing a live show but I still can't believe they let him bring in all that shit, especially that unnecessarily fuckhuge computer screen.
>>61752710
i guess not. This is far more hilarious.
>>61752771
>>61752710
So he really just does whatever he wants like white Prince right
What are some hot chord progressions to buy?
>>61752832
>I-V-vi-IV
Shit is FIRE
Does anyone know how to clear all beatgrids from Serato DJ? I stupidly let it set the beatgrids by accident and now shit is all whack.
>>61752181
One thing that really bothers me is that all the knobs turn with different resistances. Is it like that on the original Push? Do they loosen up or something?
>4 Voice
>polyphonic
>16 step seq
>$500
VOLCA/BASS STATION/EVERY OTHER SUB1K SYNTH BTFO
>>61752604
stop being a hipster and learn what you can from the fucking songs, man
>>61753035
really shows what a bunch of greedy fuckers yamaha are charging $400 for the refaces
>>61752832
ii7b5-V7#5-i7
next phrase is DLC
>>61753035
too bad it sounds like shit though
it's practically a less equipped microkorg, but everybody's blinded by
>muh VCO's
didn't you people learn anything from the timbre wolf
>>61751100
Not the other guy but thanks, I've been meaning to start learning PD.
Also, does anyone know if GEM is really that inferior to Jitter?
>>61753239
>it sounds like shit though
nigga what? the demo video is already out. it sounds absolutely decent, SPECIALLY at that price range
>>61753354
already checked those and the sound is way tinny and harsh, volca/toy synth style. was ready to buy before the audio demos
how do you go about mastering a gapless EP?
as if it were one long track? it has ambient interludes that segway each track in, so I'm a little wary of splitting the track up
>>61753239
didn't you learn anything from watching the demo and hearing it not sound like shit?
Howdy /prod/! I've been hard at work finishing my Salt Mic the last couple days. Next week I should have the matching Pepper Mic done.
The Salt Mic uses an auldsküle piezo crystal mic cartridge (used from the 50-70s in radio handsets, intercoms, etc), and the Pepper Mic is gonna be made with a carbon granule cartridge (used from ~1900-1930s or so in radio broadcast and recording mics, and up until the 80s in telephone transmitters).
Each type has a very distinct lo-fi sound. Here's my quick demo of the Salt Mic:
https://clyp.it/avurjnca
Anybody else here /diy/ /prod/?
>>61753545
by sending it to someone else
>>61753545
you need to do crossfades, split at each track skip, have very short fades in and out at each split section and then render
it may take a couple tries to render
are the behringer noise reduction pedals shitty? their price is making me wonder about buying them, like with most behringer things, but i suspect that the quality will make me no want to buy it, like with most behringer thigns
>>61753872
I looked into those awhile ago. They seem to work well actually. They don't filter the noise or do anything fantsy, it's just a noise gate but with good sensitivity and it opens and closes nicely. The only concern I've seen about it is being a "tone suck", but based on the published specs it has a more-than-adequate frequency response and with an input impedance of 500kΩ and output impedance of 1kΩ it shouldn't cause any tone problems at all. I never bought it because I just didn't need it that bad (have a noise gate pedal already) so I was never able to do any comprehensive tests on it (phase response, step response, group delay, etc).
It seems like a good pedal to me in terms of performance, you just have to baby it so it doesn't break because it's cheep.
>>61753872
Behringer's stuff is not that bad, especially not noise reducers which are fairly simple to begin with, they should work fine. Their budget mixers don't hold a candle to sturdier stuff but I have a couple basic interfaces and the tiny xenyx thing which works great for stuff on the go.
I want to get into production.
So I'm thinking of getting this, yes/no?
>>61754016
Do you know how to use the drum pads and knobs?
You might want to consider just getting a cheap keyboard to start
>>61754016
Is that the thing that goes on fire or am I thinking of one of the other Akai products?
>>61754016
i havve that
>>61744149
wanna talk abt it? ive been there
>>61750328
how is puredata better than c++, and how is it worse?
>>61752771
Time
Is never time at all
>>61752923
>I-V-vi-IV
>not the late 90's and early to mid 00's
>>61753774
Cool idea to make your own mic, pity it sounds just like a skype headset or something.
I met this guy in France once that reversed the polarities on an old 1960's telephone to use as a microphone, sounded so cool when you beatboxed into it
>>61754274
He's already making beats in Gensokyo, anon.
Does anyone here DJ? If so, do you play your own songs? I kinda want to learn and I have a bunch of friends who can probably hook me up with a gig or two if I ever got good enough to play in front of people
>>61744149
Yo, think of all the groundbreaking music you would miss out on
>>61754480
I'm just a bedroom DJ but playing your own songs is a good way to get exposure as long as they're decent. Mostly what you want to do is play to the crowd and analyze their response.
>>61754308
I'm not a c programmer so I can't speak with much authority, but here's what I gathered. First of all, PD is open source and fully compatible with c and python. You can easily compile objects and externals for it with c, and loads of people do.
ultimately it's a sound oriented visual dataflow language intended for sound, so that's its strength, it's visual and logical, all objects deal with math and sound processing, so it's straight forward. Math wise it's incredibly capable all the way up to complex numbers, chaos, fractals etc. it might make better sense to compare with supercollider which is also sound oriented but text-based. Anyway, the drawbacks I hear mentioned might be that something that requires a lot of objects and connections in PD might just require a few lines of code in SC or c. Not all the time but sometimes. Lots of clicking and dragging will entail more RSI than typing. But it's an incredibly fun way to work for me, and the main strength over text programming is that there's way more room for experimentation, of happy accidents, exploration, being sidetracked into something completely new. It's real-time so you hear right away what your patch is doing, what the objects and numbers are doing, don't have to compile anything. That immediate feedback is extremely important and probably the main reason people choose pd or max over c - if they don't do both. They're not that mutually exclusive
>>61754480
Yeah I DJ, I play my songs and my friends songs sometimes
>>61754429
Well it's sposta sound lo-fi. They don't make crystal mics anymore, they're coveted by radio ham guys and especially by harmonica players. The reason is because they don't sound good, and like you said, you can achieve similar results with a cheep electret condenser mic. But, the crystal is edgier and crunchier and compresses without distorting. It has a nice aesthetic, for what it is.
The "pepper" mic is gonna be made with a carbon cartridge designed for use in telephones, so it'll have an even lo-fi-ier sound. It's fun.
hello prod,
my biggest complaint on my music is that the instruments don't have space with the frequencies clashing eachother. i've been working with reductive eq instead of the presents and i'm still kind of lost on this loop...
what can be done to fix this? i feel like i've made space in the lowers but kind of muddied it up in the higher freq...
https://clyp.it/1qfrq3es
thank you
>>61755458
wait I think this is less shittier especially in the left channel
https://clyp.it/lunkzzax
>>61755458
the single most important thing to make a mix click is balance...
balance
balance! (meaning levels, and to an extended degree panning)
get everything balanced perfectly first, and only hit the EQ when you need to. there are many ways to go about this and think about this, but right now your mix is all out of balance so there's nowhere to go with it.
after you've done your balance with temporary/rudimentary panning, think about the third dimension. subliminal amounts fo reverb will push things further away in a mix. you don't have to pan so drastically is everything has it's own space in terms of level, frequency content, and *distance*. subtle amounts of reverb make a huge difference to the casual listener - it shouldn't "sound" reverberant (unless you want that) it should just give reflection cues to your brain so you can organize the sound field coming at you.
1.balance
2. corrective EQ
3. panning
4. Z axis/distance/3rd dimension - ambience
5. FX and fun/creative EQ
BALANCE GODDAMIT
Now another way to look at things is that with perfectly carved EQ work (and by extension panning and reverb) you can get any balance you want and still hear everything - this is easy in theory but in practice doesn't work well. It makes you EQ too drastically which ruins everything for at least two difference reasons, it also puts your mind on the wrong track and you never nail your balance. It takes about 5 seconds for someone to determine if a mix sounds pro or not - in 5 seconds 90% of what you're able to judge is balance. ANON PLS
>>61754697
Thanks! Good input. Think I'll download it and give it a whirl.
>>61755685
dang alright, I think I got it, very nice writeup thank u. I'm still new to this so this is helpful for my workflow. I now realize I have much more things to organize and worry about
>>61755636
Roll off the bass off all the mid high voices. Overall there's no bass in it? Where's the kick
>>61756162
I can hear it on my headphones but I just tried it on my speakers and you're right the kick is practically gone... i'm going to adjust that, thanks
>>61754118
holy shit lol i remember telling somebody that in siome /prod/ thread forever ago
>>61754118
Yeah it comes with a mini fire extinguisher, which actually has some great presets itself. Max spray sounds like an ocean.
>>61756271
what exactly? what catches affire anon? i must know
>>61756271
>Your beats will be fire
Lol was that you?
>>61745653
Mine buzzes like crazy if you turn it up more than halfway and the compressor's fucked. Pretty sure you can get a better interface for less. The mixer is kinda useful but again, you could probably get a better one for less. Don't bother.
quick prod I have this juicy kickdrum on my minibrute but when I record it onto ableton it's not as juicy anymore why is it loosing volume? I'm using a 2i4 btw and the first line in
>>61756566
turn off Preferences->CreateWarpLaunch->Create Fades on Clip Edges
>>61756566
what's the setup? what are you listening through? are you listening to the minibrüt through headphones and then listening to your scarlett through headphones, as sometimes just the headphone out sounds different. what cables and connections are you doing? draw a diagram of your setup pls.
>>61756510
just curious, what buzzes? the audio outs or the preamps? or both? i'm not buying one but they do have cool features, but def "too good to be true" pricing
i'm high and watched some dudes making beats and made this shortly after. what's prod think? should i make this into a full beat? it's not really mixed at all just a bit to make it listenable
https://clyp.it/dpkpxtei
>>61756566
2i4 is notorious for recording at low volumes and you have to turn the input playback knob to full basically. It actually says do this on the Focusrite site.
>>61756748
Sorry, the gain knob
>>61756602
Don't think that did it senpai
>>61756633
minibrute audio out -> 2i4 in with gain
>>61756748
>>61756772
yeah my gain knob is where I want it to be it's in the red but it sounds good
2i4 is connected to my monitors nothing special.
when I play it back while it is sending midi to the minibrute it sounds great put when I hit record it's missing all kinds of volume
>>61756662
sounds sorta like some old school memphis rap music
>>61754016
good for a start, will give you plenty of options for a decent price and provide you a taste of everything (pads, knobs, keyboard). If after 3-4 months you dont feel the need of upgrading I guess /prod/ ain't for ya mate
>>61756602
Don't think that did it senpai
>>61756633
minibrute audio out -> 2i4 in with gain
2i4 is connected to my monitors nothing special.
>>61756748
>>61756772
yeah my gain knob is where I want it to be it's in the red but it sounds good
when I play it back while it is sending midi to the minibrute it sounds great put when I hit record it's missing all kinds of volume
Fixed
>>61756633
Well I don't know enough about audio hardware to say for sure, but if there's nothing plugged into it and all the input channels are turned down and the main mix/headphone outs are turned up there is an annoying buzzing in my ear. You also have to crank the gain+volume to get much of a sound out of the preamp which is annoying because it also makes the buzzing louder. It could be something dumb that I did but if that's the case this thing is way too delicate to be practical.
GUYS WHAT MIDI KEYBOARD SHOULD I GET
I LIKE HAVING LIKE 36 KEYS OR AT LEAST TWO OCTAVES MAYBE MORE BUT NOT TOO EXPENSIVE I AINT RICH
DO I NEED BEAT PADS?
>>61756344
lol nothing catches on fire, there was just a period of time where there was somebody asking about buying one of those in every thread so i told somebody who asked if there was anything wrong with them that they catch on fire
>>61756395
i can't believe i didn't see the pun, but no, i was just the one who said they catch on fire
>>61757281
only if you don't like drumming on keys, it's never bothered me much. i'd start by seeing if there's any decent used midi keyboards available near you.
who here like slightly oversaturated experimental trap lol https://clyp.it/25lt3mhu kinda dr dergy
>>61757503
You see what happens when you shitpost? Memes become real life
>>61757503
>>61757616
>>61757616
i regret nothing
https://clyp.it/whryczzm
>>61753774
can you make a few more and sell them to me, or give some instructions on how to make them, they look really cool, and i want their aesthetics in my studio
also they don't sound bad
rack mounted Comic Sans everybody
how the fuck do i make this louder? it's so quiet and it's annoying me. it's an orchestral loop and i just couldn't bother making anything more out of it because of how quiet this sounded.
https://clyp.it/dg03bymt
>>61759744
turn the faders up maybe
why are they down so slow
the only other thing i can think is turn it up from inside kontakt or raise the velocity
>>61755685
nice post i'm saving it
>>61759840
i thought in order to balance you had to put the faders down.
>>61759949
ive always heard to have them higher so the master is peaking just a few points under 0db on the meter so it leaves room for mastering process
I have a question regarding KOMPLETE. I have KOMPLETE 8 and want to upgrado to 10, how much more space will i need?
>>61742528
If the piece comes out sounding the way you wanted it to, then it's right
Just know that some presets are super obvious and become grating in the same way a wilhelm scream can fall flat if used improperly
>>61759744
easy fix = compressor and or limiter on the master and normalize when rendering
>>61760124
heres the guide that might be useful
(goes over file size limit)
http://i.imgur.com/fdjOpnG.jpg
i think imgur just fucked the quality
>>61742528
Some of the best music ever created was made with presets.
anyone here like makin noise
what do you use
i want to get into it
>>61750396
>reverb after compression
>EQ last
wew lad
>>61760237
There is no right way to do things. Seems like a valid effects chain to me.
>>61760252
i usually do eq first though but probably there is some use for doing that way
>>61744307
I like the vibe
>>61759744
>>61759991
>what is headroom
you want the overall mix to be topping out around -12db before mastering
the whole point of mastering is to bring it back up after mixing. "a few db below 0" leaves you almost no room
>>61760283
"a few db below 0" is headroom you fucking faggot
>>61760252
but putting stuff after compression defeats the purpose of the compressor
unless you're trying to alter the tone of a drum or bass instrument or something, compressors are mostly for keeping control of unruly peaks.
i'm not saying it's like objectively incorrect or anything but it's just HIGHLY UNUSUAL OKAY
>>61759744
>utility+compressor
but really >>61760283
you want to leave yourself plenty of space.
>>61760307
reverb before compression sounds unnatural as fuck.
>>61760333
Not if you're not overcompressing
The compressor literally doesn't alter anything it's not kicking in for, you can hear the difference. Proper compression is set to kick in sparingly, and that's the first telltale sign of shit production, overuse of compressors and limiters.
pic related. yes, metallica is shit but it's just an example.
>>61760333
Sometimes that's good. Can make the reverb sound huge
>>61760252
>There is no right way to do things.
That's not true at all. Try adding reverb after a stereo enhancer and you'll throw up.
>>61760899
Why would you add a stereo enhancer with a reverb at all?
>>61760954
Mono, raw sound source > long tail, stereo output. There's only one way to do it, and it's to put the stereo enhancer after or the phase cancellation is literally going to do things to your stomach and head.
The point of the example is that, while most of things in production are subjective, not everything is: that's just hippy talk. Another example would be having stereo separation at over 15 ms, which just confuses people's brains.
>>61761045
Depends how the stereo widening works. Some use phase inversion, others use delay, others use a comb filter to spread frequencies left and right
>>61754016
disgusting
Hi /prod/.
Listen to my squashed, repetitive trap song. How do I fix it?
https://clyp.it/rxwiepvz
reminder that mid-side processing is the superior way to enhance ur stereo field
So I've been producing only on headphones since I started 2 years ago.
Do you think working on monitors is better? Does it "inspire" you more by actually hearing it out loud?
I don't know how to explain my question any clearer, but hopefully you know what I mean. I might buy a pair because lately I'm feeling uninspired and maybe actually hearing it out loud and feeling more of a thump and louder volume might get me more in the mood. I make house music (not Aviccii style shit, I mean "real" house) and it's more of a club-orientated genre, so it could help me.
Bonus request: Suggest some entry level / cheap monitors.
>>61762867
>Do you think working on monitors is better?
monitoring exclusively through headphones is a big no no pham. headphones do not have true bass, only a representation of it, and they cannot reproduce the stereo field you need for proper mixing
>Suggest some entry level / cheap monitors.
tannoy reveals
>>61762867
>Do you think working on monitors is better? Does it "inspire" you more by actually hearing it out loud?
No.
>>61760307
I don't know which school of music production you attended that told you that it's highly unusual, but I can assure you that it's not, especially since most people use reverb on a separate send channel. Track-wise compression isn't trying to do much more than shape the signal, you control the amount reverb by adjusting the handy little dry/wet knob, I'm sure you've seen one of those before. That will stop the reverb "preventing" the compression. Compression fucks with the tail and the reverb steals signal data from the tone you're compressing, have to have longer release times etc
If you're doing big noisy edm leads it's a different story
>>61759744
do you have it set to midi mono?
>>61762867
You don't buy monitors to get "inspired", you buy them to hear your production in a natural stereo field
Headphones are really detrimental, so much that bad speakers are better than good headphones
>>61760436
>the compressor doesn't alter anything it's not kicking in for
You have no idea how a compressor works, do you?
my drum programming is shite, how do I git gud?
any books/websites to read?
>>61763213
>i can't do this practical thing well
>should I do more of it?
>nahhh, I should probably read some books
>>61763213
You need to feel the groove, listen to and study a lot of drum patterns in songs you like.
>>61763213
Copy patterns like this guy said >>61763267
>>61763250
Books are GOAT. It's useful to learn about drums from a drummers perspective.
>>61754016
I have one, It's pretty nice and versatile. Though I'd like more keys, the pads are stiff as fuck, and knobs seem cheap (I don't really use them though anyway). I'm probably gonna grab a 61 key midi controller down the line to play synthesia and practice piano more seriously, but until then this thing is pretty cool.
Anyone wanna buy an mpd18 off me? box and everything. Ugraded pads.
[email protected]
>>61763047
you're just getting lazy with these now
>>61764242
In his defense, the mono midi joke seems like it can only really be applied to so much.
>>61764356
how is that in his defense? he's just shoehorning it at this point
>>61764377
His need 2 meme is what's motivating him, he probably doesn't care if his memes are even contextually consistent at this point.
>>61762695
trudat
>>61750204
>https://clyp.it/g5q3few1
I like it, can't say too much because I just started all this
I have a good time with it though
So I've got a decent (not really, but still) idea down, but I think I fucked up a bit on the sample selection and a few other details.
How do I essentially redo the track without going crazy?
>>61764595
link?
>>61760283
wait, -12db?
I always did mine to around -1 (I'm a shitty bedroom producer tho)
>>61760283
>-12db
i usually do -6. is that good or is that shit?
>>61764595
Start with the obvious wrong choices.
Guys if i finish a track and after mix and master the level is too low, what did i do wrong or what should i do?
>inb4 limit and compress
>>61764726
You said it, mostly limit.
sorry >>61760436, >>61763124 is right. all analog compressors and most digital ones do start compressing before hitting the threshold, and it would make sense that they would.
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2016/01/15/korg-intros-wireless-nanokey-studio-nanokontrol-studio-midi-controllers/
korg is killing it this year
Why is the MPC2000 cheaper than the 1000 even though people claim the 2000 sounds better and has more outs if it's upgraded?
>>61744307
No advice to offer, but I like it. It's pretty wild. Good luck!
>>61759013
>tfw Kyma got rid of comic sans
>>61758299
Yes anon I will make moar and sell them. Let me finish the carbon mic and see how that goes next week and I'll post back here. They mightn't be too cheap (lots of components and lots of work) but at least they're legit carbon and crystal microphone elements like the olden days
absolute n00b here
>yes I have read the manual and tried google
anyway
>bought pic related
>Record button
>what it do
>does it record midi data?
>what does the loop thing does?
sorry for the dumb question
>>61765516
it records whatever you're recording at the time, and the loop probably activates the arrangement loop
>>61764997
Because it's more vintage.
>>61765516
Best be used with a DAW.
>>61765516
it's just a remote control for the transport section of your DAW
>>61764663
leaving headroom in the digital domain is completely useless
by peaking at -6dB you're wasting a whole bit of your 24bit file
>>61765922
huh? before mastering
>>61749204
>>61751339
>>61752604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZr-9I9VtLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkfvlQ75WUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK57tRwpo50
maybe stuff like this?
>>61760283
this is the most retarded shit I ever read on /prod/
please do not spread your half assed knowledge
>>61765981
forgot this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPhsUALgYhQ
is there something like reset to init-settings on this thing?
I'm to lazy to reset everything of the 112 presets myself
https://clyp.it/cm4tfsi2
A track I'm making for an indie game. Critique plz. I hate mixing with a passion.
>>61766555
Mixing wouldn't help
>>61766762
Sure, I'd like to compose something more interesting than this, but it's what they want.
>>61766555
>https://clyp.it/cm4tfsi2
I like it. Sounds like something that would be in an indie game, so I guess you succeeded there
>>61766286
just shift-3 when you feel like programming a patch. you could probaly find a bank of blank patches though.
>>61766848
people who don't make music thinking they know what they want from a song is pretty fucking annoying.
>>61766913
what do you mean?
anyone know how to make this stab from young thugs lifestyle / tell em (lies)? I basically get what to do but can never get my patch to "flash" like in these songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGt_JGHYEO4
>>61766962
I know a guy who was making a song for some guy's game. He was telling the guy making the music to change things, add in random shit in the middle of the song, etc.
People who don't make music don't really know much about music, and shouldn't try and suggest changes. I get that it's their game, but still. Wanting a song in your game to be "less interesting" sounds fucking retarded desu.
>>61766903
>shift-3
that's what I needed, thanks
>>61767015
I think I agree with you in principle and in a way I should champion the use of best music but really I just want some gain some experience and to be done with it quickly.
I don't know. Should I fight them? I do know that the way to rise in the ranks is to not get involved in projects where you're not allowed to do your best. I also probably have 10x more vidya experience and sensitivity to how it works than them. Still... I just want to get it done.
>>61767117
it depends on how well you know them. If you are not friends with these guys, I wouldn't really fight them too much. Also if you're their only option you might be able to have some leverage though.
>>61767117
You should probably ask them for examples of music/scenes they want it to be like
>>61767186
Everyone and their grandmother and her dog makes music these days so they have plenty of options. I'm pretty good for beginner game though (although not mixing-wise).
>>61767204
I have. That's how I know what they want.
>>61765872
thanks that's what it seems to be
