>guy who looked like male model
>"he really represented le oddballs and misfits! XD"
Am I the only person who doesn't like David Bowie?
His music was not good and he issued in an era of image trumping music.
>>61664682
>issued in
ushered in.
>>61664682
>Can't be attractive and an outcast
OK
>>61664775
>>Can't be attractive and an outcast
That's true.
David Bowie turned marketing into the essence of his art.
All great phenomena of popular music, from Elvis Presley to the Beatles, had been, first and foremost, marketing phenomena (just like Coca Cola and Barbie before them); however, Bowie turned that into an art of its own. With Bowie the science of marketing becomes art; art and marketing become one.
Bowie was a protagonist of his times, although a poor musician: to say that Bowie is a musician is like saying that Nero was a harp player (a fact that is technically true, but misleading).
Bowie embodies the quintessence of artificial art, raises futulity to paradigm, focuses on the phenomenon rather than the content, makes irrelevant the relevant, and, thus, is the epitome of everything that went wrong with rock music.
I like Bowie, I was listening to him just a few days ago, but he was a bit overrated. His songwriting wasn't really top tier, just pretty good.
am i the only person who doesnt like pizza?? lol! im such a special snowflake guys lol am i the only one??? the only special snowflake?????!? my mom told me i was lol
>>61664832
If we're talking 70s, then it's Top Tier.
There's a reason a bunch of pleb girls on your Facebook are mourning right now
He made pleb music for plebs
Also, if he was some ugly short guy (with the same exact music) he'd have half the fanbase.
>>61664832
this
i don't understand why people consider him the logical conclusion to music or whatever
he wasn't even innovative, all he did was rip off other shit that was going on around him and water it down for a mainstream audience
>>61664832
Listen to Five Years and tell me that's not top-tier songwriting for its time
>>61664907
Because he was much better looking than all the people he ripped off.
>>61664860
>>61664682
Kill yourselves or go back to reddit. Your pick.
>>61664801
You have no idea bro. Being an attractive, kissless virgin outcast is far more common then you think. Being handsome doesn't hide being a sperg. In some ways it's more cruel, a so close yet so far away type of deal, and nobody assumes your pain when they look at you. They think you're like them until you open your mouth. Bowie was just dedicated and talented, he knew how to play with people's heads, that's why he made it.
He's one of those pop artists who most people like because they were told to like him. His songwriting is often good but rarely great - won't stand the test of time. I'm not a big fan.
At least he did different things, even if the different things were already trendy. It's sad that he passed.
>>61665038
>Being an attractive, kissless virgin outcast is far more common then you think.
[citation needed]
I have a feeling you're a 5.5/10 who thinks he looks like David Bowie lmao
>>61664682
>Bowie wasn't a misfit
He was
>>61665030
Bowie is literally Reddit: the musician
>I don't like David Bowie's music because normalfags ree
>>>>/r9k/
Also kill yourself
>>61665073
>Good looking white pretty boys sometimes get made fun of by thugs on the street
Oh wow! What an outcast! Never heard of that happening before! Poor guy ;_:
>>61664682
>>guy who looked like male model
By today's standards.
Back then male models were generic white bread guys.
He helped set a new standard
>>61665073
>gay
good one
>>61664825
I absolutely see what you're saying
It's like saying Jim Morrison was a great singer/lyricst. He wasn't, but he might have been the world best stage actor, giving everything, even his life, for a superb performance, becoming a shaman to the audience, enchanting them, capturing them, hypnotizing them with his movements.
>>61665110
He wasn't considered good looking at all, he was a a pasty ginger cross dresser in South London in the 60s.
He was the very definition of a misfit
>>61665070
>tfw most attractive guy on the planet
>tfw social outcast by choice
what now faget
>>61665038
>In some ways it's more cruel, a so close yet so far away type of deal, and nobody assumes your pain when they look at you.
I know that feel.
>tfw 'cute'
>tfw people can't believe I've not had a relationship.
>>61665086
Bowie is very 4chan.
He did a shitload of drugs, a shitload of women and men, and changed his musical style and aesthetics to keep on innovating giving no fucks about what people think.
Paul McCartney on the other hand is very Reddit.
>>61665288
He also created his own internet (Bowienet) and basically invented mortgage backed securities- he was sold future earnings from his records to fans/investors well before banks were selling mortgages based on future earnings, and it is speculated he may have given them the idea.
>>61664682
He made his look an acceptable standard of beauty in the mainstream. He only looks like a model in context of how he changed people's opinions of male beauty.
>>61665086
So how are you enjoying your first week on this site.
Seriously, fuck off and die, nigger.
>>61665288
I can get behind this
>>61664860
Why are you assuming we're all retards with Facebook like you?
>>61665463
Whoa! This guy is bubblegum! Put away your glue before he gets us! XD
I'd like to point something out.
In Girls Loves Me he sang
>where the fuck did Monday go?
he also dies at the night from Sunday to Monday. In short
HE FUCKING KNEW
>>61665038
i'm in a weird position where i was thoroughly unattractive for most of my life (overweight, greasy long hair, unkempt neck beard), but within the past few years made an effort to lose weight and improve my appearance. i've been called quite attractive on a number of occasions since then, but years of being an outcast has left me with no other conception of how to go about my life.
>>61665622
how tall r u
>>61665699
5'9"
>>61665556
>song is called Lazarus
>clearly about his eminent death
>Saint Lazarus of Bethany famous for being revived by Jesus 4 days after his death
What do you think he meant by this?
>>61665732
I like the way you deal with loss.
>>61665729
www.rsdnation.com
>>61664682
he looked like a faggot transvestite with AIDS , he was basically a joke . he MADE his look cool .
>>61665288
Both sites are populated by losers so really neither artist is like either website.
>>61665741
If anyone would fake their death for a biblical allusion it's Bowie.
He's probably actually dead tho.
Let love into your hearts.
Bowie was great partially because of circumstance, sure-- he was an affluent man in England during rock's heyday w good looks
but
What separated him from the billions of people with the same level of opportunity was his overwhelming love for everything
>>61664682
The dude was always wearing dresses and looking androgynous. I'm surprised he made it as far as he did in the culture of america. America has always been a disgusting closed minded wasteland.
>>61664682
/b/ tier trolling
>>61664682
Nah you're not alone.
I don't hate him but I don't find anything special in his music, most his overrated generic pop
His worst period was when he thought he was an african american
>>61665622
I know that feeling, except it wasn't anything with weight, I was just mentally always maybe 2 years behind in high school, which made me an outcast. Puberty was kind to me, so with a normal personality, I could get laid no problem but as it is, I'm still a virgin.
>>61665732
he's dead but but he (via his music) will still live on
>>61664682
literally who
>>61664825
The thing that makes Bowie so great, is that, while what you're saying is a very interesting angle on Bowie, if you compare him to all the /other/ dubious "musicians" whose image they placed far ahead of their musicianship, in their company he starts to look like a very serious and capable musician.
So you've gotta respect him as a "musician" for at least that much.
>>61665801
Weirdly those are the only songs of his I like, and some of the 80s more new wave stuff. His rock music is so damn slow and stiff-sounding.
Public service announcement.
Quick reminder that the unironic shitposting as started and you don't need to reply to contrarian children.
>>61665976
it's scaruffi pasta
If I like Ariel Pink what David Bowie songs would I like
>>61664825
>http://www.scaruffi.com/vol3/bowie.html
Try harder.
>>61666046
killing yourself
>>61666073
>KILL YOURSELF
>>>/b/
>>61666007
>contrarian
There it is! My favorite memeword
>>61666046
Start with Ziggy Stardust and go through all the popular ones my dude
>>61666010
Ah, cool. Well, it's still nice to be having a dialog with an epheremal reproduction of Scaruffi. I don't come here often, but don't let anyone say I underestimate 4chan's intelligence.
>>61666116
Start with hunky dory imo
>>61664825
Scaruffi turned shitty music taste into the essence of his reviewing.
All great phenomena of music critique, from Pitchfork to Robert Chrisgau, had been, first and foremost, pleb phenomena (just like Coca Cola and Barbie before them); however, Scaruffi turned that into an art of its own. With Scaruffi the science of shit taste becomes art; art and shit fucking taste become one.
Scaruffi was a plebeian of his times, and definitely a poor music critic: to say that Scariffu is a man worth the paper he writes his hot opinions down on, is like saying that Rolling Stone is a site for music journalism (a fact that is technically true, but misleading).
Scaruffi embodies the quintessence of people with unwarranted self-importance, raises futility to actually bothering with reviewers at all, focuses on the phenomenon rather than the content, makes irrelevant the relevant, and, thus, is the epitome of everything that went wrong with music critics.
>never really cared for Bowie's style or stage presence
>always only liked him for superb songwriting
Have people who saying he wasn't a good songwriter just not listened to enough of his music?
FOR HEREEEE AM I SITTING IN A TIN CAN
I know there's a lot of people like you today who are salivating at this opportunity to whip out your sardonic and edgy™ criti/witti-cisms that you replicated off of your favorite Sam Hyde video (yes, that one open on your second tab) in hopes of getting a reaction to fuel your internet ego points, but I won't let you have that satisfaction today. I just won't, anon. I'm sure you understand.
>>61666262
>sam hyde
literally who
>>61666282
I'm glad you don't know who he is, and please, keep yourself ignorant of that autistic neanderthal. He is the king of /r9k/, and that should tell you enough.
If you don't like his glam rock, just listen to the Berlin Trilogy. Much more experimental, with influences of Kraut and Ambient
>>61666224
Heh I'm saving this one
>>61666262
Sam Hyde makes me laugh but his fanbase is literally cancerous and politically ignorant, and that includes Fantano. They're all captive to the mentality that if you don't agree with Sam or at least engage in the same type of edgy "fuck your opinion" discourse then you're a pussy white liberal SJW Marxist faggot. The irony is saddening.
>>61665774
this 2bh
>>61665801
please, for once in your life, be honest with yourself
have you ever actually listened to those pieces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eTvCiMjJWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0BgFC3R3-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVY2ERXkNgY
if you have, please explain how it is "generic pop"
>>61665038
>tfw this may apply to me but i dont know if im ugly or not
>>61666104
found the contrarian
>>61666262
good post
I do'n't either
>>61666446
upvoted
>>61664682
Other way around, anon; his look became attractive with his rise to success.
>>61666421
post face pic
>The Anti-Bowie Circlejerk has blossomed into full swing
Fuck this shitty board
>>61666541
>AAAAAAH I CAN’T TAKE OPINIONS CONTRARY TO MINE!!! MAKE IT STOP PLEASE
4chan isn't an echo chamber, fuck off.
>>61666628
Not that guy but I'm pretty sure these anti-Bowie posters are just contrarians. If you don't like his music, fine. You can't deny that the man has had a tremendous impact on popular music and pop culture in its entirety. There's literally no reason to shit-talk Bowie on the day of his death on a music board unless you're starving for attention.
>>61666790
>unless you're starving for attention.
unfortunately, that's exactly what a lot of people on here are
>>61666790
Mummy hated them. :^)
>>61664682
>look another contrarian
>>61666895
stop this meme
>>61664825
Underrated post. I don't even hate Bowie but this is mostly true.
These people continuing lying to themselves in a futile attempt to impress. It really boils down to impressing others, even if it is on an anonymous imageboard. Soon you realize that these self-proclaimed intellectuals truly have no taste. They cling on to the fringest of the fringe in hopes of distancing themselves from the popular centrifuge of art to portray themselves as patricians™ to others. They never like the music they listen to, because it is only listened for the credibility of looking cultured to others. They are contrarians for the sake of being a contrarian.
Gamma Negative males who will never surpass their locked cages of plebitude. I end up feeling sorry for them because they never truly enjoy what they want to. They deny themselves pleasure in different crafts and art mediums because they need to maintain their title of taste within the social circle. They are nothing more but victims to their arrogance.
>>61666944
>underrated post
wew lad, haven't been here long eh?
>>61664682
>Increasingly Bowie was convinced there were witches after his semen. They were intent on using it to make a child to sacrifice to the devil, essentially the plot to Roman Polanski's 1968 supernatural classic Rosemary's Baby."
>Rumor has it that Bowie kept his hair and fingernail clippings in the fridge of Michael Lippman’s home where he was living then, so they could not fall into the hands of those he thought wished to put spells on him.
he was an /x/-tier misfit
>>61666944
I mean I haven't listened to much of his music but from I've heard he can be summed up in:
David Bowie: at least he's not Frank Zappa.
>>61664825
*cough Andy Warhol Cough*
>I love Los Angeles, and I love Hollywood. They're beautiful. Everybody's plastic, but I love plastic. I want to be plastic.
>>61666790
sounds like a kanye west defener
>>61666790
>If you don't like his music, fine. You can't deny that the man has had a tremendous impact on popular music and pop culture in its entirety.
yes he ruined it hes the epitome of over the counter conter culture. he represents everything that brands like urban outfitters do. pretend to represent the underground anti-commercial anti capitalist systems. all the whiole selling the image of anticorporatism for corporate profit.
>>61664682
I actually agree with this. He just had a weird style but he was ultimately really handsome and if anything just unconventionally attractive, which a lot of celebrities seem to be.
I much prefer Klaus Nomi who was definitely inspired by Bowie but was not as loved due to his whole avant garde thing and also being pretty fuggin ugly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmLk2vSXXtk
>>61667014
At least he's not you.
>>61664682
>>61667857
nice reddit image
Yeah, go hear Lazarus and Blackstar and then you tell me he didn't good music...
>>61667757
>over the counter conter culture
OBIE DI CONTIE CONTI COO?
AH DOOPIE DOOPIE DOOPIE DOO?
Have I used enough special words yet?
Bowie never claimed to be anti-cap or to represent anti-commercialism. He was one of the world's biggest pop-stars. He wasn't political (besides that one phase where he was vaguely fascist) and that's why he had such universal appeal. He wasn't about delivering some social message; his lyrics were mostly just brilliant nonsense about space travel and fantastical things. That was why he was so great. It was all about the artistry, and that artistry spread out from the music into every available area. tl;dr yer talking shite mate
>>61664825
>>61666224
from zero to an epic meme in just few posts
is this the power of 4chan?
>>61664682
its just bandwagon faggots, only know of David only through one song
Trust me no one will care in the next week
>>61664801
Lmao go back to /r9k/
>>61668146
i sure as fuck will i own ten of his records and play his songs on guitar.
this has been like losing family member.
>>61668146
Have fun being proven wrong.
>>61664825
Bowie's cancer had more talent than Scaruffi did.
>>61667815
I never got the Nomi thing. It seems just so... cheesy/simplistic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gma5IUNMTn0
>>61664801
>Nick Drake
>Ian Curtis
>>61665038
Painfully accurate fuck
>>61665038
>>61666956
Some people are inherently pretentious. Pretending to be something they are not is the very core of their being. To suppress that urge to always put on a show for others would be another act of pretension for them since they wouldn't be doing it for themselves.
>>61665073
>gay
>Implying he didnt trascend sexuality
>>61666327
I second that. The art of [replace with] knows no bounds, and can be fine as you like it, if you'll pardon the literary allusion.
I didn't like David Bowie's music until I heard Seu Jorge's acoustic versions from The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou. That soundtrack made me realize how creative the tone structure is, without Bowie's crooning getting on my nerves.
>>61670366
YES. He actually was a fantastic songwriter, and I have no idea how. He just had a superhuman knack, I guess.
>>61665760
You're the loser here.
>>61665214
i know that feel for sure
>>61665760
>>>/tumblr/
Wash your cunt.
>>61669601
Lmao Curtis would have been fucked no matter if he was ugly
>>61664682
It's okay, you don't have to be a fan of David Bowie. However, though, you can not argue against his impact on alternative-ish pop music today. I hate the Beatles, but they still nonetheless had a huge impact on popular music.
>>61664825
This
>>61670106
True. Even the word pretentious has double-meanings, depending on whether the deception is benign, as in theater, or malign, as in con-artistry. The mask of irony is also fraught with implications of pretense, especially of pretending to moods and conditions opposite to what one feels, or is. Generally speaking, however, the negative connotations of the word have increased since its invention. A friend of mine once lampooned me with a character named Emperor Tim, whose motto was pretension = style. I took it as a compliment, of course.
>>61665288
Nice dubs, but Paul McCartney is VERY Reddit-tier. Wings was awesome though. You can't argue against that.
Related
https://youtu.be/cm2YyVZBL8U
>>61665086
I'm glad I've lived long enough for whatever somebody doesn't like to be "reddit". When I was 15 it was just "gay".
>>61664682
>guy who looked like male model
Maybe in the UK with its lesser standards
Young Bowie was never male model material here in the States
Look how ugly David Bowie was. Le true typical ugly outcast of society!
>and this is a mugshot for fucks sake, half of you fucks couldn't look close to this good even with photoshop and perfect lighting
>>61670895
Speak for yourself Ugly
>>61670976
this
>>61665157
I still don't consider him attractive
>>61666282
I'm from /r9k/ and I've never heard that name. That's not Eggman's real name is it?
David Bowie literally took the virginity of a 13 year old girl.
He's a piece of shit
>>61672022
post a source or fuck off
Obligatory webm for the thread.
>>61665394
You are so right
>>61664682
>his music was not good
wrong
>>61672249
>That feel when you will never be a fashion icon throughout the decades.
>>61672205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnViqstGsYs&t=11m24s
>>61666385
a lot of his comedy seems to fly over people's heads most of the time desu. most of it is completely steeped in irony and absurdism, and the ironic absurdism / absurd irony contained therein. it does get a bit boring and tiring after a while though.
>>61664801
>girls hit on me constantly because of my looks
>takes them about 1 minute to figure out I'm a hopeless asocial sperg and never talk to me again
trust me senpai
>>61666224
made me lol
>>61670895
He is considered handsome now. In the 70's, not so much
>>61666628
It absolutely fucking is, people here take music as a status indicator instead of as an art. Many users pretend to enjoy artists and albums they really don't, or exaggerate how much they like them to impress other users. They don't want to be plebs, they can't listen to popular music, which results in a competition to see who can fill their chart up with the most obscure shit. Bowie will start getting shit on because anons are seeing "normies" making posts about him on facebook, so they're afraid they'll become plebs for liking him noe. I browse this board because i've learned about many cool albums here, but god im fucking tired of the hipsters. Just listen to the music you like, the music that sounds nice to your ears and makes you feel good.
>>61664682
I think you meant "ushered an era" but you're using adult words when you're clearly a child.
>>61664907
Low isn't a ripoff. I thought it sounded like Talking Heads, but I found out it came out before the Talking Heads' debut.
>>61664832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hDbpF4Mvkw
are you an ass?
How much pussy and boypussy do you think Bowie fucked in his lifetime?
>>61672249
Is he the king of /fa/?
He has an interesting face that makes him probably a good model. He's quite an ugly man though, rat teeth, kinda goofy looking. Unquestionably sexy though. I'd take that boy pussy down any day.
If you don't see why he was an oddball I don't know what to say to you.
You don't like him? Um, okay. I don't like beetroot that much. Why does you not liking him cause you torment?
>>61667757
I bet you couldn't even begin to describe how Bowie was "anticorporatism" you fucking ape.
>>61664825
Scaruffi pulls through again. A true patrician.
>>61664682
No, you're not the only person who doesn't like Bowie. There's plenty of other fags in the world.
>>61665151
Jim Morrison was a poetic lyricist you fucking retard. Infinitely better than Bowie
>>61664825
>le take me seriously because I'm pretentious man
>le treat me like a genius even though my website looks like a retarded chimp made it man
