Friendly reminder that if you don't think this is the best autechre album you need to turn in your patrician card.
>>61583385
he's right.
>>61583385
almost any of their albums could be their best honestly, but draft is definitely up there
the only albums excluded are incunabula and quaristice
>>61583385
Chiastic Slide is. Best beats, best samples, best textures, best song [Nuane].
>>61583449
>the only albums excluded are incunabula and quaristice
>>61583485
>pre-confield
>>61583385
Consistent with Autechre's previous works, Draft 7.30 (Warp, 2003) didn't break any new ground but sounded like a self-indulgent revisitation of old ideas. Theme of Sudden Roundabout sounds simplistic at best. Xylin Room, V-Proc and IV VV IV VV VIII are mere reprocessing of Autechre cliches. However, the 11-minute Surripere ranks among their most intriguing musical metamorphoses, constantly off-center but also constantly focused.
>>61583523
sorry mate, incunabula (mostly) sounds super dated and not in a good way, and quaristice has a 7.5/10 album in it if combine the best stuff from the various versions
basscadet is still one of their top tracks tho
>>61583627
"meme"
>>61583778
i don't think it sounds that dated really. i mean, it does, but more in a nostalgic way. the drums are almost hassell like on that album - almost primitive but contrasted with what sounded like (at the time) super futuristic synths. there's nothing from the period that sounds exactly like it, because not many others in the first wave idm movement were incorporating a hip-hop sensibility. put into context, it's absolutely groundbreaking. it sounds more "autechre" to me than amber does, which, while great, seems to have tried to fit into the mold a bit more in terms of the ambient techno scene (apart from tracks like piezo or teartear).
i totally disagree on quaristice - i think it's better than untilted.
>>61584222
That's actually completely fair, but the dated sound on most of the songs still kills it for my personal enjoyment (which is odd considering I find Lego Feet to be great.) Also, nice digits.
Friendly reminder that if you think Autechre is good you need to turn in your patrician card.
>>61584670
Right, they're actually GOAT.
>>61584670
post rym
>>61584708
>>61584713
~boldfaure
I'm kidding, they're all right. In the grand scheme of things probably their best work is a 6/10. Maybe a 7/10. But that's pushing it.
>>61584651
yeah, i mean it all comes down to taste. i think it's pretty ace that there seems to be no general favorite or "essential" album with most ae fans (as opposed to writers who seem to only ever whine about how all their albums aren't trirep). also agree with you on lego feet - maybe it sounds less dated because there's more emphasis on rhythm as opposed to synths?
>>61584746
that's just, like, your opinion man
my favorite is oversteps
also I love ae too much lads ;__;
>>61583778
>super dated and not in a good way
how is bike super dated and not in a good way
i thought it was a classic the moment i heard it
i didn't think oh shiiiiiiiet this sounds dated
>>61583385
Untilted is better
>>61583385
It's the best of their software era, no doubt
>>61583385
I prefer Exai to be honest pham
>bladelores
why dont you kids listen to good electronic music like Nono, Stockhausen and Boulez?
>>61586885
your good electronic music is shitty classical music
>>61586906
shitty (for) classical music
no disrespect to actual classical music
>>61586885
Because while they pioneered electroacoustic techniques all of their works have been superceded
lp5 though desu
>>61586906
Boulez' stuff is top tier man.
Have you heard Anthemes 2?
>>61586921
yeah but not by fucking autechre
>>61586885
I like those guys, but I don't get why they're always brought up in relation to Autechre or other dance music where a big part of the appeal is emphasis on rhythm and groove. At least bring up Subotnick who's a bit more analogous.
>>61584670
>has never listened to autechre
>posts in an autechre thread
Get out kid
autechre sucks
>>61587022
because people who listen to autechre like to believe they are listening to challenging electronic music when it is anything but
>>61587027
Ive listened to all their recrds.
>kid
lol, says the Autechre enthusiast.
>>61587049
Post some challenging electronic music please
>>61587049
No, I don't think it's challenging. I like their tunes and alternate and their sometimes odd take on hip-hop (I'm not going to get that from Varese). I like the timbres they play with and I like what they with drum programming. That's it.
>>61587049
It's your ideology that solidifies genres m8, not those who listen because it sounds good to them.
>>61587113
left my computer so no links but theyre easy to find:
Nono - La Nostalgica Futurist
or whatever
Stockhausen - Kontakte
Boulez - Repons, Anthemes 2
Xenakis - Persepolis
>>61587116
like I said yeah, theyre like a 6 or 7 out of 10
but no more
>>61587071
Why would you listen to all their albums if you hate them so much?
That's some serious dedication to music you hate.
Oversteps = Confield > Exai > Move of Ten > Garbage > Tri Repetae > everything else
Draft 7.5 is just babby's first Confield
>>61587163
>Xenakis - Persepolis
Top kek
>>61587203
I mean I used to be 18 like you.
>>61587283
Now you're 19?
>>61587049
Truly I am in it for the challenge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1D91BOyIoU
>>61587283
I don't know what that even means.
Did you like them when you were 18? Or did you just listen to artists you hated because you were 18?
>>61587363
It means you shouldn't reply to shitposting.
>>61587317
whatever you want to believe :)
>>61587163
These aren't challenging. Quite nice as background music. Relaxing.
>>61587363
I used to have much narrower taste in both classical and popular music.
over the years Ive expanded it.
>>61587420
I called them good electronic music mainly but they are definitely MORE challenging than autechre
>>61587199
I don't quantify or appraise music based on a linear objective scale so I don't really relate much to your "6 or 7" but whatever.
I just find it odd that you bring up those composers when they don't really seem to be paralleled in what Ae are trying to do (apart from maybe Confield). They've always been about taking a wildstyle graffiti approach to club music and hip-hop and abstracting it just a bit, but still keeping those roots their as a tether. Even on Quaristice and Exai you can still see the innate leanings to Detroit techno/electro and the Miami bass scene. That's where the appeal is for a lot of people, not in the super experimental or electroacoustic-type techniques, though I think they can do that well at times (though not as well as the pioneers maybe, and obviously not as innovative).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jksB4WF3epw
Just apples and oranges mate, really.
>>61587482
Im pretty sure most people on /mu/ are like fantano and what I said
but if you think otherwise w/e
I agree theyre good at what they do
>>61587463
More challenging to you.
For me, I found Autechre more challenging. Not so much now, as I'm familiar with their work.
>>61587544
how could you possibly consider them more challenging?
>>61587438
Wow dude. You're, like, so patrician and shit.
Get over yourself.
mates come on. anyway, this conversation is kinda of tedious lads so
>how'd you like the new live album? favorite set?
>hopes for lp12?
>tracks that have been doing it for you lately?
>are you a sean or a rob person?
>>61587561
Because it was more challenging! Can you not grasp the idea that different people can find different things challenging?
>>61587565
Never said I was patrician. Just that my tastes have expanded.
I don't think I'm patrician because that would be comparing my knowledge to people like David Hurwitz, and there's no comparison there.
>>61587605
Maybe, if you can explain what is more challenging in Autechre's music.
You can do that, right?
>>61587594
>tfw didn't realise they released 9 live albums last year
Autechre starting from LP5 onward is literally just watered-down Stockhausen for avant-teen babbies.
True Patricians™ know where it's at.
>>61587667
noice
IDM is for fucking babies, if you're going to try to be weird at least listen to electroacoustic or something
>>61587631
My point is that what's challenging to a listener is purely subjective.
I'm sorry you can't handle the fact that I find your ambient drone music less challenging.
>>61587861
You can't even fucking explain what's more challenging?!
63 / 7 / 21 /1
>>61587873
Can you explain how it isn't, by chance?
>>61587647
how is autechre much like stockhausen? that's such a watered-down comparison. is stockhausen's work mostly concerned with beat patterns and rhythms? are autechre largely concerned with serialism or formalism? autechre's music isn't even all that aleatoric if that's the angle you're going for.
and scaruufi? jesus i hope you're joking.
>>61587785
again, a lot of people like ""''idm'''''' because it's an alternate take on club music. you don't get that with electroacoustic music.
>>61586883
oh my god bladelores
>>61584222
If you think Quaristice is better than Untilted you need to listen to Untilted more. I once agreed with you until I realised what a pleb I was.
>>61587911
No, you explain.
If you aren't even BASICALLY musically literate - if you can't even fucking explain what in music is more challenging or better or whatever the fuck - then you're clearly too young for this board.
>>61583627
This sounds like pasta but I totally agree
>>61587921
>autechre's music isn't even all that aleatoric if that's the angle you're going for.
well technically it is yeah? they put the parameters in the computer and it generates a result. that's pretty aleatoric
agree with you though
>>61587944
So you can't.
Fuck off, underage.
>>61587997
I can explain, but I'm not letting you piggyback off of my own comments. I see through you fucking kid.
![3137EEIzYhL._SY300_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/le5Pk6D.jpg "3137EEIzYhL._SY300_[1].jpg")
>>61588023
>kid
Dropped this senpai
>>61587647
how could he rate their best album a 5
>>61587936
i've listened to both quite a bit and i even used to like untilted more. i think the production is better on quaristice (untilted is too dry for me) and i've never like ae as much when they are both fast AND complex with their drums - it borders on too stereotypically "idm" for me.
i still like untilted, but i just find quaristice more intriguing.
>>61587976
my point is that the parameters are actually very, very narrow. what is actually left to chance is something like maybe 5%. confield was a bit more generative (as they were kind of new to it) but after that they meticulously construct the patches where they can read the conditionals and have a pretty good idea of what the track will sound like. they've talked about it in a few of their interviews. yes it's aleatoric a bit, but not as much as people perceive. i legitimately don't see why stockhausen is always brought up with them - if anything i hear more dockstader.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE9doS-NZCE
>>61587594
>how'd you like the new live album? favorite set?
Best work in a while, I reckon. I like Nagano a lot at the moment. I love the "track" that's in most of these sets that has bells in it or something.
>hopes for lp12?
That it comes out relatively soon...
>tracks that have been doing it for you lately?
Second Scout, Lowride, nodezsh and Gelk
>are you a sean or a rob person?
Sean for the bantz, Rob for being qt/sweet
i hate the well-read fucks who introduced plebeian, patrician, cuckold and meme into the lexicon of this shithole
damn, ae threads are usually so comfy
>>61587240
Most patrician itt
bmup
>>61585771
>also I love ae too much lads ;__;
Man, you don't even know. I've been falling asleep to Autechre interviews lately, lol. They have very comforting voices desu.
>>61583551
to me it's a bit strange that you like draft so much but not chiastic, as i feel like they're similar in some ways. tewe is like proto-draft imo.
The real patrician choice
>>61588255
I've never really wrapped my head around LP5. Most of the tracks are very good -even classic- but as a full album the whole thing never comes together. It's strange. I feel the opposite of Quaristice, that album ONLY works if you listen to it all the way through.
>>61590815
kinda gay mate
>>61594146
i think lp5 is one of their more cohesive albums...
>go to manchester
>these lads threaten to mug you
>what do
>>61594146
I like EP7 better
>>61597988
tell them i use puredata
>>61598084
Kek
>>61597988
tell them to listen to REAL and more SOPHISTICATED electronic music like nono, boulez, stockhausen, the list goes on...
>>61599751
Stockhausen is a fucking hack
>>61583385
bit too weak to be considered that
6IE.CR and v-proc are amazing tracks though
>>61593052
how did i not know this existed
>>61601177
Nah he's good but he doesn't sound anything like Autechre
>mfw people have the nerve to shitpost in an Autechre thread
>>61601392
>tfw nothing is sacred
