Thoughts on Blackstar?
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I love the new versions of Tis a pity and Sue, Dollar Days is classic Bowie, my favourite along with the title track, sounds like it could've been on Toy.
I really like it
i was not aware of david bowie till i heard blackstar yesterday. i was blown away, im checking his discog right now.
>>61388578
goddamn I hate neo-/mu/
>>61388649
i dont frequent this board often because its a meme board, so im not sure what your referring to.
>>61388694
Tell us more, Mark.
>>61388578
God Tier albums: Heathen, Low, The Man Who Sold the World, Hunky Dory, Station to Station and Scary Monsters.
10/10 albums: Ziggy Stardust, Aladdin Sane, Diamond Dogs, Heroes, Outside, The Next Day.
Not quite as awesome but still great: Space Oddity, Lodger, Reality.
Shit: Black Tie, Lets Dance, Tonight, Never let me down, S/T, Young Americans.
>>61388694
sorry, m8 - I assumed you thought David Bowie was
>le dadrock
and that you'd avoided it because he wasn't some obscure "muh 'sperimental" artist
>>61388694
How the fuck can you not be aware of David Bowie until yesterday
>>61388578
Oh, and Earthling is worth checking out also, and Hours is shit.
>>61388739
no way dude ill give any kind of music a try, he was just one of those artists i was never exposed too.
>>61388743
i knew of him, just never heard anything by him and if i had, i didnt know it was him.
>>61388728
I mostly agree, I think Outside is God tier though. And I don't think Black Tie, Let's Dance and Young Americans are that bad.
>>61388766
Oh and I really like Earthling and Hours, didn't like it at first apart from the singles but it really grew on me.
>>61388790
Earthling is bretty gud, but i don't like Hours. Very tame IMO.
>>61387879
David Bowie had a career outside of Tin Machine!?
>>61388728
>Shit
>Lets Dance
>>61389805
Yes.
It's surfacey boring pop shit.
>>61389838
>>61388728
Sick bait
>>61389867
Great meme. Did you make that all by yourself?
>>61389874
Except it's true.
>>61389895
Except Young Americans and Black Tie White Noise are his bests. The others are all solid good-to-very good albums, maybe except Never Let Me Down.
>>61388757
Hours is comfy af
>>61389703
underrated
Wait did it leak?
>>61389984
No...
>>61390263
Yes
https://mega.nz/#!Y4wgFTAR!fK57ytqlim_6Acfs7HRn9Dx7kOn5b8NFjr1wGRF4taU
>>61390220
This. People don't get it somewhy
>>61390263
It sounds like ass
>>61390329
what a bummer. Not sure if I want to spoil myself then
AOTY already
the year is not even over
>>61390485
don't get it. It's a really shitty vinyl rip. Wait for a CD rip or a better quality vinyl rip
Im going to be the one who says this is his best album since the 1970s.
It was so fucking good and not overhyped. TIs a pity was the only sub par sont on the album.
>>61387879
he looks slightly like nigel farage there
Ok, I agree this is really good. Damn...
He's done it again.
>OFFICIAL D-BOW ALBUM RANKING
1. Low
2. Station to Station
3. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust
4. "Heroes"
5. Blackstar
6. Diamond Dogs
7. 1.Outside
8. Aladdin Sane
9. Hunky Dory
10. The Next Day
11. Scary Monsters
12. The Man Who Sold The World
13. Reality
14. Earthling
15. Heathen
16. Space Oddity
17. Lodger
18. Hours
19. Let's Dance
20. Pin-Ups
21. Young Americans
22. Black Tie White Noise
23. David Bowie
24. Tonight
25. Never Let Me Down
this is great
heres a 320 download, except for the last two songs but beggars cant be choosers
https://mega.nz/#!7UxAHSIK!qHiphfi-2um3o4_KCsJ-qHL2-OJ687nPZdyPY337MNg
I thought it was very good, except for Tis A Pity, which doesn't even compare to his original version. That for me was a bummer.
I still think Heathen is better.
To the guy who hadn't heard any Bowie- the correct way to listen is chronologically.
>>61391091
That list is the biggest bait I've ever seen.
Anyway my favorite song from the new album is 'I Can't Give Everything Away'.
>>61391269
actually not bait
>>61391091
>Pin-Ups higher than Young Americans
Fucking kill yourself senpai
And happy new year
>>61391091
Blackstar #5? You have got to be kidding... It is a very good album, but barely scratches the surface of any Bowie Top 10 list.
What did I miss? How has everyone heard it?
link for the leak
please guys...
>>61391390
https://mega.nz/#!Y4wgFTAR!fK57ytqlim_6Acfs7HRn9Dx7kOn5b8NFjr1wGRF4taU
>>61391390
are you blind
>>61391360
i think it's dope as fuck
Outside, Diamond Dogs, and Blackstar are all even to me currently
>>61391328
Both are shit who fucking cares lol
happy new year :)
>>61387879
>Thoughts on Blackstar?
>mfw
I mean, what in the actual fuck
>>61391903
wew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QUR5rcnA_U
Does the music on Blackstar remind anyone else of King Crimson at points?
jay z and kanye dressed like that once
>>61390742
>TIs a pity was the only sub par sont on the album.
Which is insane because the 2014 version was god tier.
I can't give everything away starts as literally a fusion of Thursday's Child and A New Career In A New Town.
>>61388762
You know what? Just fuck off. We don't need idiots like you here.
It's really good
>>61387879
I really liked The Next Day but thought this was mediocre.
>>61394538
Nevermind, hadn't realized that the album had come out, was talking about the single.
Maybe it's the shitty rip, but I feel like the single version of 'Tis a Pity She Was a Whore is way more raw (and better)
Why can't we accept that Bowie hasn't made a "bad" album yet, and enjoy all of them for what they are? Obviously they are different in sound and quality, but why argue and shitpost about it? Nobody's taste is objective, it isn't real outside of your mind, so why force it upon other people? We just got one of Bowie's best albums yet, why not celebrate the album rather than talk shit?
So we're going to talk about it. Favorite tracks? Mine are Blackstar, Lazarus, Tis a Pity, and Dollar Days
>>61394856
>Why can't we accept that Bowie hasn't made a "bad" album yet
>Bowie hasn't made a "bad" album yet
What about everything between Scary Monsters and TND?
>>61394856
Apart from a few gems NLMD and Tonight are pretty bad though. I don't know anyone who likes them.
>>61395126
Even Bowie admits they're mostly bad apart from a few songs.
>>61395115
Either you haven't given them a fair listen or have shit taste. Hours, Earthling, Heathen, and Reality are mediocre at worst.
>>61387879
First listen literally right now...
>>61395115
>dissing Outside
>>61395305
bowie was the radiohead of his time
>in the future edgelord hipsters will dish radiohead as dadrock on a pedo board
>>61387879
His new aesthetic is embarrassing, it's like his stylist just caught on to 2013 streetwear and thought it would be a good idea
>>61396343
Eh, in all the new promo pics he looks much better than he did for The Next Day.
>>61387879
I'm not a fan of the album art. Anyone else?
>>61391091
>Lodger this low
Just finished the album.
I listened to the title track when it came out, and I was blown away. Hearing it again, I can say that my opinion is about the same.
Didn't hear the first recording of Tis A Pity, so I have nothing to compare it to. It was a solid song anyway. My only problem was Bowie trying to hit the high notes, he just can't do it anymore.
Lazarus was nice, I really liked the pseudo-ambience of it.
I didn't really like the new recording of Sue, but it was ok.
The rest of the tracks were pretty good too. Overall, 8.5/10. I still think "Heroes" is Bowie's best, but Blackstar is definitely in the top 10.
AOTYAY GOAT HOLY SHIT NIGGA
>>61387879
>only 3 unreleased tracks
digusting
His voice is sounds so much better on this than on The Next Day, sounds like he did in the 90s/2000s
>>61388728
>Let's Dance
>shit
Entire post disregarded despite relative accuracy of some of it.
8/10
>>61388728
Young Americans and Let's Dance are easily in his top 7 you insecure preteen.
I found this website on /x/ about bowie and the occult and its pretty insane, bowie is really deep into this shit
http://www.parareligion.ch/bowie.htm
It was pretty good. Nothing amazing, but easily a 7.5/10, maybe 8 on a good day. It's definitely the most experimental thing Bowie has ever put out. I was hoping there would be more louder and aggressive moments that sound like his side project Swans, but for the most part, he's experimenting with electronic and jazz and whatnot. Which is cool, he does it well. The song Blackstar is one of my favorite songs released in 2015, and none of the other songs are quite as good as it, but they're still all pretty damn good
Best album since Outside/Heathen.
so good
![f47812f4d11bef487b1821f920d2aeb7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FBFCtTk.jpg "f47812f4d11bef487b1821f920d2aeb7[1].jpg")
>>61388728
>Objectively correct ranking
1. Ziggy Stardust
2. Hunky Dory
3. Diamond Dogs
4. Heroes
5. Station to Statiom
6. Low
7. The Man Who Sold The World
8. Aladdin Sane
9. Earthling
10. Outside
11. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
12. Let's Dance
13. Space Oddity
14. Lodger
15. The Next Day
For now Blackstar might be the new 9 or 10
>>61387879
5/7
>>61400466
>3. Diamond Dogs
Lazarus was my favourite track of 2015. The rest of the record holds up pretty well. 8.5/10. Will listen again many times.
WHO THE FUCK'S GONNA MESS WITH ME
>Look at life it's no piece of cake
What did he mean by this?
If you DON'T get Blackstar then you are just a plebeian.
Only the very top of music connoisseurs can understand it.
>>61400544
WHERE THE FUCK DID MONDAY GO
>>61400517
diamond dogs is one of bowie's greatest creations.
pleb
>>61400991
>>61401069
Hey, not my fault if you can't step it up enough.
Dollar Days though.
I'm just glad Bowie's nearly 70 and he's still doing his thing. I'm sure hell be fine for at least a couple more years
>>61401877
Not funny. Though he does live a healthy lifestyle these days.
>>61401975
Oh, let me have my fun, anon. At least we got the album early. A pleasant surprise which helped pick me back up after my wisdom teeth extraction. ;w;
>>61402084
Haha, I'm drunk and didn't mean to be rude, hope you recover quickly!
>>61402198
It's been smooth sailing so far, I expect nothing less for the next coming weeks.
Don't get wasted, Anon. Happy new year!
>>61402221
Happy new year!
...
On a related note, while I can't wait for the Lazarus music video, I hope Dollar Days or Tis a pity get one too.
Apart from the obvious A New Career in a new town sample, I Can't Give Everything Away is so Black Tie White Noise, with a bit of Thursdays Child thrown in. Someone said on here that it sounds like a mix of his 90s albums, I'd say that's accurate, nothing wrong with that either.
Just leaving this here for comparison...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03GN-duIY2A
>>61403452
I'm >>61397390
And now that I have the original to compare it with, the re-recording is better by a long shot.
8.75/10 now
>>61403452
All done by Bowie in his home studio. The guitar on Lazarus was taken straight from his demo as well. I think the album version is better, at least we have both.
>>61403596
>>61403608
Personally I think the 2014 version is one of the best things he's ever done. The album version sounds like a Tim and Eric cover. Hopefully that will change when I hear a new rip.
it's fantastic.
>>61388728
Heroes is his best album, you cuck
does anyone else think that the drums at the beginning of blackstar are pretty bad? like they're fine after a minute or two but at the start they feel really out of sync and stuff
>>61404740
Not at all.
>>61404740
Nope.
>>61404740
Maybe you're just a pleb.
>>61400492
go back to reddit
>>61388578
ebin
>you will never do a ritual of Saturn at the Great Pyramid with Bowie at the Summer Equinox
>>61401062
Fuck yes.
If only for:
Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (reprise)
So fucking good.
>>61388649
you're even worse by not helping the guy out in his journey through Bowie's catalogue
Does anyone else think I Can't Give Everything Away sounds like A New Career In A New Town?
>>61403841
yeah i think the real version will have more unreleased tracks and a better production overall. I was kind a disappointed tbqh
>>61387879
w2c blackstar shirt
>>61388728
>Young Americans
>Lets Dance
>shit
Wew lad
if you dont believe lodger is among his best albums you should maybe reconsider
why havent you plebes invested in bowie bonds?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_bond#Bowie_Bonds
>>61404740
>Out of sync
Yeah man what's that about????!??>!2? Drums should be strictly 4 to the floor xD
Young Americans and Let's Dance ARE shit. Win and Modern Love are the only tracks i enjoy on those two. The rest (and even Modern Love) is just poppy garbage. Nothing compared to Man Who Sold, Hunky Dory or Heathen.
>>61388649
You're just a grouchy old man
Can someone gime da link pls
>>61410182
Never mind sorry
Can't get over how good Dollar Days is. Can't wait for the album in better quality.
>>61393753
>U DONT KNO DE DAVID BOWIEE??? LE DADROCK GOD???
>U FKN PLEB KILL URSELF
why would you say that anon
>>61409494
>However, by March 2004, Moody's Investors Service lowered the bonds from an A3 rating (the seventh highest rating) to Baa3, one notch above junk status. The downgrade was prompted by lower-than-expected revenue "due to weakness in sales for recorded music" and that an unnamed company guaranteed the issue.
that's why
>>61410182
Are the leaked link the final one? i dont want to get my ears dirty with some pre-production album.
>>61412228
it's a vinyl rip, it's the final album but shitty quality
I downloaded to listen to the album and im not a quality slave, but if you only listen to FLAC/320 v0 music don't download it
>>61393753
no need to be an asshole
>>61412268
Ok, thank you anon-kun.
Btw, Bowie likes to play with words (like Aladdin Sane). is 'Blackstar' for 'Bastard' ?
>>61412268
>vinyl rip
>vinyl
But doesn't that just mean it should be objectively superior rip?
>>61412396
No, it's all in mono and the vocals overpower everything, the sound is nowhere near as good as the already released singles. Going to be good hearing it all in high quality.
Seems pretty solid, I actually like that version of 'Tis a Pity She Was a Whore.
7 tracks really feels short though.
>>61409622
Implying Right, Somebody Up Thete and Fame aren't killer.
>>61412393
A 'Blackstar' is an old star past its prime and going out, being replaced by new ones.
>>61412837
>The cultists are symbolism for the millennials, it shows them younger and older, but nothing changes, it symbolizes how they are just a bunch of manchildren who never manage to change
>The skeleton and the diamond skull are symbolism for millennials stealing older generation's stuff for themselves to worship and claim as their own since they cannot come up with any original stuff of their own
Good stuff.
>>61399651
>his side project Swans
Are we gonna ignore the fact that this guy just called Swans a side project of Bowie?
I loved black star. Mos and kweli have great chemistry on the record, and I really enjoyed the mix of talib kweli's more conventional style songs with mos def's preference for some of those darker, minor scales. I think redefinition is a good example for that.
>>61388728
>>61413991
Ha, also, I wouldn't say that this is the most experimental thing Bowie has put out. Outside and Buddha of Surburbia are more experimental.
>>61414400
Fuck off, you knew exactly what we were talking about.
>>61388728
>shit
>lets dance
u wot? the first three songs where the best of his 80's
>>61414995
hoohoo noo fuun!!!!!! @lowed=\<
>>61413016
damn
Where the fuck did Monday go?
Damn, this album is really fucking solid.
I honestly think Girl Loves me is brilliant. That fucking synth breakdown before the beat comes back in is great. I imagine pitchfork will get a huge kick out of the gay slang.
I'M SITTING IN THE CHESTNUT TREE
>>61412699
don't forget he's also written half a dozen or so songs for that 'Lazarus' stage production
[spoiler]hopefully we get an EP of the cast recording, if not from bowie himself[/spoiler]
who hype for david boiwe and Gorillaz collab?
>>61417926
oh man, please let it happen
am I pleb, I can't listen to experimental bowie, hunky dory and ziggy stardust is pretty much all I like
I hope we get a digital rip soon
He's trying to rip off Mac DeMarco so bad... a shadow of his former self what a shame
Am I the only one who thinks Diamond Dogs has like 2 good songs?
Sounded like garbage for the most part.
>>61418910
agreed, all i really like is rebel rebel desu
>>61418910
same with lets dance, only 3 first songs are great, the rest are shit
>>61412699
We'll probably get a re-release with bonus tracks like with The Next Day, pretty sure they recorded 10 songs not counting the ones he did for the Lazarus musical, but from audience recordings they don't sound that good.
>>61418973
>calling cat people shit
wow. just.... wow
>>61418910
>>61418930
you have to be shitting me
there isn't a single bad song on diamond dogs
listen to it again
>>61418973
Without You is the best song Bowie ever did.
I felt the same way about The Next Day as I did for Young Americans. Not every track on it is great but there are a few really good songs that stand out on the album, most of them being deep cuts and not the singles. I would go back and listen to those albums but I would usually skip over certain tracks and basically make an EP of the ones I really liked. One of the reasons why The Next Day isn't a strong album is because it's too long, it could be condensed down and be stronger, and there isn't a clear unified sound. His vocal performance is not as strong as it used to be, of course that comes with age, but he was still trying to hit notes he could when he was a lot younger and it can comes off unpleasant.
The problems I had with The Next Day weren't really around on Blackstar. There isn't really a weak track on the album. There are songs that are clearly stronger than others but there isn't a weak song. I was kind of worried going into the album with the very Scott Walker vibe to it. David Bowie is really great at combining different elements of different music to make one big album (Ziggy Stardust, Low, Station to Station, etc.) However, Bowie does his own thing, he does combine different elements of people like Scott Walker, and I guess Kendrick Lamar now, but he does it in a very "Bowie" manner. My only complaint I have is some of his vocal performances on it, but that could just be with the quality of the file that was released. He's still trying to hit those high notes he could when he was younger, but he is embracing his voice when it comes to his current age. So if you listen to the topics and read the lyrics he's singing, his breaking vocals make sense.
It's definitely not my favorite Bowie album(Low) but I do think it's better than something like Let's Dance, Young Americans, and The Man Who Sold the World. There is still a lot of room for Bowie to grow, which is usually what he does. He usually builds up to a great album.
>>61387879
Girl Loves Me is a GOAT track.
>>61419836
Continued
It took him a few albums to build up to Ziggy and the same for Low. It's probably just as good as an album like Lodger. So not his best, definitely lower ten for bowie but nevertheless, still a top ten bowie album. Someone posted earlier giving it an 8.5/10 for it and that seems pretty accurate. The next album is going to be killer. Great way to start the year.
>>61394856
>my favourite tracks are half of the album
Low counts as a good bowie album?
>>61408006
givenchy
>i'm not a gangster
This maybe has something to do with Kendrick
>>61419095
this
most of his 70s work is pure gold
>>61419095
I fucking love Diamond Dogs.
>>61418910
Diamond Dogs has some of Bowie's most creative and interesting instrumentation out of all his albums. Nothing else comes close to the fantastic storytelling that the lyrics and mood of the album convey. Give it a few re-listens, it took time for it to grow on me, but it was so worth it.
>>61420967
yeah dude, experimentation in music sucks, doesn't it
Is that how is eyes really are? Or is it some COOL PHOTOSHOP EYE LMAOO thing?
>>61420967
It's his best
>>61422605
Yes, he got punched in the eye when he was young and made it like that. The guy that punched him went on to design the Hunky Dory and Ziggy album covers.
>>61388728
>Lets Dance not in GOAT
Fuckin what cunt?
>>61422605
They're really like that
>>61418851
gr8 b8 m8
Not that there's anything wrong with the album, but it's only too bad it'll never be truly appreciated like ZSD simply because he's old.
>>61423819
What say...it's funny how a guy like Bowie can still produce engaging material at almost 70 while most of his peers have been a joke for decades.
>>61423988
He's more of a pop artist. Rawk groups unfortunately end up playing greatest hits setlists at the county fair always since that kind of music doesn't lend itself to the same flexibility that a pop/country/jazz/whatever artist has. Rawk groups have a set list of canon hits and that's all the fans want to hear in perpetuity.
>>61424092
>Implying pop artists don't just play the hits
>>61424092
Pop artists usually don't have to do anything more than sing. Rock requires the demanding task of coming up with music to go along with the vocals. It's just harder and you only have a limited set of creative ideas before you burn out.
>>61387879
im just wondering where the fuck monday went
>>61424092
>Rawk groups unfortunately end up playing greatest hits setlists
>Rawk groups have a set list of canon hits and that's all the fans want to hear in perpetuity.
I agree with what you are saying as a criticism of shallow rock bands but Bowie's setlists almost always contained a large portion of his greatest hits
>>61424211
Which particular pop artists were you referring to?
>>61424247
I think it's more accurate to say that pop artists usually do have canon hits they perform, however rock is rather unique in that it limits you to about 10 years of creativity max.
>>61424247
In the 80s, yeah. His later tours, from the Outside tour to Reality, he played quite a lot of lesser known songs mixed in with some hits.
>>61424332
I read that in the 90s a lot of the crowd walked out because he wasn't playing the hits haha. But in the Heathen and Reality tours the crowd went crazy for the lesser known/90s stuff.
>>61424332
>>61424247
Well, that's kind of like Metallica. During the 90s they didn't play much of their 80s stuff except MOP and One while nowadays their setlists are like 90% stuff from the 80s albums.
>>61424389
It might have depended on the crowd; the 90s tours may have had a lot of first generation Bowie fans from the 70s and they obviously only cared about ZSD and other stuff from their "era". They'd stopped listening to music when Reagan became president so didn't know or care about anything Bowie had done recently.
>>61424522
Yeah, it's just interesting that his 90s stuff wasn't really appreciated at the time. And It's funny because he did a greatest hits tour at the beginning of the 90s and said from then on, he'd only play new stuff. (which he did for the most part for a few years) Guess they didn't get the memo.
>>61424760
Speaking of his 90s albums, that's what Blackstar reminds me of the most.
>>61424793
"Girl Loves Me" and "I Can't Give Everything Away" are literally Black Tie White Noise MK2, "Tis A Pity" is literally Earthling MK2, "Dollar Days" is literally Toy MK2, "Lazarus" is literally Heathen MK 2, the only really original tracks for him on this record are the title track and Sue.
>>61424981
But then again, how unusual is that? I mean how many RHCP albums had good material outside the singles?
>>61424981
Agreed but I think Sue sounds like it could've been on Outside.
>>61387879
does david bowie write the music at all or just sing? because if that's the case he really adds nothing to the music
>>61425509
he writes practically everything on all his albums except Pinups which was a covers album
Kind of surprised this isn't being discussed more, or are people waiting for a better quality rip?
>>61426933
i'm waiting to buy it on once it's released.
>>61425873
Bowie is a fucking Starman.
>>61426933
Yep.
It's great
>>61425509
He writes all the lyrics, and either hands sheet music out to the band or brings in taped demos. He's a mad scientist.
