Why does /mu/ hate Annie?
Because Rachel Goswell exists.
Looks like a random old lady
>>61368259
I remember she tried to say in a relatively recent interview that she found out about Kate Bush (or some other artist like her, can't remember) as a teen and has been a huge fan ever since, but in a interview a few years back she said she just found out about her then. She's a such a pretentious idiot now.
I love St. Vincent, but Annie herself seems pretty insufferable.
Source: Any interview or monologue she's ever done.
I love Annie she just seems so cool and smart but the music is trash for plens.
>>61368368
>>61368622
hey, there it is
because her design team took ideas from me but.......... left me to die of smoking disease without being paid a penny.
which is reason enough to be annoyed
wouldn't you agree?
>>61368259
because shes ugly as fuck
>>61368259
>few imbeciles hating annie
>the whole /mu/
>>61368259
Why did you open this pointless thread?
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>>61368655
What if you're a plen coz you don't get her critically acclaimed music? Think about it.
>>61368769
you're not supposed to announce reports
Makes shitty music, talentless hack, etc, etc.
>>61368791
lots of shitty music is critically acclaimed. ur argument from authority is a logic fallacy and ur obviously stupid. which only makes sense since you seem to think st vincent is good music.
>>61368769
Announcing reports is a bannable offense, newfag.
>>61368956
Gimme a break with your shitty "argument from authority". People like you always bring this crap when they don't have arguments. According to your shitty logic her music is bad because you say so. But your opinion is irrelevant.
>>61368956
And one more thing: if most people think that a certain oeuvre is great and you're against that opinion, then you're a contrarian. Don't claim that your opinion is the absolute truth when it's clearly against general consensus.
>>61369183
mmmmmmmmmm you're probably more right than wrong but I'd still fight over it
>>61369275
If you say "St. Vincent's music is bad in my opinion", you're right. Her music isn't objectively bad because you don't like it.
>>61368259
i listened to that one album with the face wrapped in a condom and just couldn't get into it
>annoying voice
>meme guitar that makes abrasive pseudo-synth sounds
>SUHJUHN... COME CUHTT ME OPEN
she'd be okay if she wasn't so bad
>>61369428
>listens to strange mercy once
Really, you should listen to that album at least 3 times. And by the way, her second album (Actor) is more accessible and her latest album (St. Vincent) even more.
>>61369540
>i should give myself a headache 3 times
when will this meme end
>>61369361
nah, see? doesn't work, get a percussionist in.
"why these are scratchy bangs, that's not percussion!"
annie is CUTE
>>61369560
I admit I also didn't like it on the first listen.
By the third time you will like it (or at very least 4 songs). It's a matter of getting used to it. That "meme guitar that makes abrasive pseudo-synth sounds" is actually great.
Trust me, don't give up and try to listen to it with an open mind. Or at very least check the album Actor instead.
I've been trying to get into her music but none of her stuff is doing it for me so far. Angular indie rock bullshit is way too overdone.
>>61369673
You probably listened few seconds here and there. Read this: https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/S61202880#p61203274
>>61369673
Just listen to the Actor senpai.
Just saying: St. Vincent isn't the kind of artist that you check an album and instantly love it. Liking her music is a gradual thing. That's why the best thing is to check her best known songs first (like a Best Of) or watch one of her concert videos. After you get used to these songs, try the rest.
>>61369795
>St. Vincent isn't the kind of artist that you check an album and instantly love it
She's exactly that kind of artist though
>>61369828
Depending on the listener, tho. But I'd say a new listener might love specific songs of her on a first listen and not whole albums. That's why you see many complaining about her music being crap after listening once to one of her albums.
An example of an instantly likeable song: Actor Out of Work -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZW9NYX6JZA
Don't mind me, I'm just the best St Vincent track
https://youtu.be/FGADJ_F1Wgg
>>61369967
What about Marrow?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9prpAv6kvo
>>61369967
>not All My Stars Aligned
Step up senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Bi1DKGxuE
>>61369910
Can I hope to enjoy any of her stuff if I hate Actor Out Of Work?
>>61371371
Of course. Her music is quite diverse. What kind of music do you usually listen?
>>61368622
Oh, Annie.... No...
She's too popular which is a problem for some people.
>>61371752
I know right? This makes me so freaking sad. She doesn't have to lie...
>>61371752
>>61371865
In the interview with her at some Bowie appreciation event she talked about how early in her career she made a fake talent agency website and called around pretending to be her own agent to get gigs.
She's a liar.
>>61368259
/mu/ hates people like you. you're as bad as the KPOP pedos
>>61371930
Fuck
Since Actor if not Marry Me we all knew she'd make it. And we used to feel part of that, it was exciting to see.
But now...she doesn't need us anymore. It's like Arcade Fire all over again.
>>61371930
lol, this almost makes me appreciate the fact that shes such a scumbag liar
>>61368259
listen to her in any interview
if most people found her ugly no one would care
https://youtu.be/Di60eDsiCEc
>>61371930
Thats pretty smart tbqh
>>61371930
Maybe she joked and people like you baited. You underestimate her sense of humor.
And speaking of David Bowie:
>St Vincent's Annie Clark has received a guitar signed by David Bowie as a present from actress, model and girlfriend Cara Delevingne.
http://www.nme.com/news/st-vincent/87016
And speaking of liars: you never lied in your life? If you say no, you're a liar.
>>61371930
i hate her music, but that owns tbqh
terrible person tbph
>>61373346
Based on what? Do you personally know her?
we hate her cause we can't have her
It seems that people hate her for ridiculous reasons:
>the age when she first started to listen to kate bush differs on two different interviews
Big fucking deal.
>she supposely lied about making a fake modelling agency
Prove it that she lied. Even if she lied, big fucking deal.
>Because Rachel Goswell exists
>Looks like a random old lady
>Any interview or monologue she's ever done
>the music is trash for plens
>because her design team took ideas from me
>because shes ugly as fuck
>terrible person tbph
Based on what?
Get a life, people.
>>61368259
not much to look at, not much to listen to
>>61373253
I'm at least smart enough not to lie on record.
>>61373253
She definitely wasn't joking. 4:49
https://youtu.be/9OhG_Yq-Y_Q?t=289
>>61373584
>waifufag tells people to get a life
L O L
I try and try with her music because of /mu/ incessantly bleating about it, but it has never ever made me feel one thing. I fucking hate it.
Annie Clark:
>actual talent
>has a pleasant & expressive voice
>multi-instrumentalist: guitar, bass, piano, keyboards, synthesizer
>interesting lyricist
>great look and personality
>collaborated with David Byrne, The Chemical Brothers, Swans, The National, and others
>sang live with Nirvana (the remaining members), Wire, The Polyphonic Spree, Sufjan Stevens and Taylor Swift
>highly acclaimed music (see Metacritic for details)
>won a Grammy (Best Alternative Album) for her self-titled album
>insane live performances
>a great balance between quirky and accessible
>she knows how to do a football rainbow kick: https://vimeo.com/85067428
>>61373737
>calling other people waifufags for liking the music of a female artist
>>61373750
What more exactly did you listen?
>>61373829
not him but it's pretty clear he's calling you that because of your pathetic white knight posts
>>61373812
Do you have this saved in a text file?
>>61373750
what did you dislike about her s/t?
>>61373847
Stating common sense things =/= white knight posts
>>61373812
>you will never practice your rainbow kicks with Annie
Why live bros?
>>61373846
>>61373888
like the top eight songs I found on youtube. all sound same. unsatisfying songwriting with very self-similiar textures. no hooks in any sense of the word- either lyrically, melodically, instrumentally or sonically. you know what you're getting every single time, some wacky desexed visuals and herky jerky guitar driven splatters.
she's delightful as a performer and a personality, an absolute star, I just don't care about the music at all, not one fucking bit. instead of revolving everything around her precious little persona, maybe write a goddamn song.
>>61374046
>no hooks in any sense of the word- either lyrically, melodically, instrumentally or sonically
you sound like such an idiot
there are a lot of hooks in her s/t
>>61374091
>there are a lot of hooks in her s/t
line em up and i'll knock em down. i live to be proven wrong.
>>61374046
>all sound same
wut? She has a great range of songs.
>>61374103
>line em up and i'll knock em down. i live to be proven wrong.
ok, that wasn't obvious at all
really subtle trolling, man, keep it up!
>>61369428
>meme______
Ignored
>>61374163
>really subtle trolling, man, keep it up!
haha, i'm not trolling in the least. i fucking can't stand this shit
it's very unrewarding
>>61374046
ffs, are you sure that you listened to St. Vincent? Let's take one of her catchiest songs, Cruel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itt0rALeHE8
Listen to this again. Still can't find anything to like about it? The vocals, that main guitar riff + that guitar riff somewhere in the middle, the lyrics, the drumbeat?
>>61374211
don't bother
dude has already made up his mind
>>61373584
AIDF pls leave
>>61374211
ok, trying again. i actually listened to this last night trying again one more time, lol.
the first vocal swells makes me want to listen to emily king.
i guess st. vincent is in a middle place between halting experimentalism and pop that doesn't allow me to hang on to anything.
no, i don't like her vocals. the guitar playing is fine, but it's not enough for me to care.
shrug
>>61374211
>that guitar riff somewhere in the middle
I meant the guitar solo. Listen from about 1:20 to 1:39 (19 seconds): https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Itt0rALeHE8#t=80
That solo sounds fantastic in combination with the haunting instrumental behind it.
yeah I thought it was a bit fucked really, but what the fuck, bastards nearly finished then I can have a good burn-self-to-death, phew sweet jesus I'm coming
still 300 years later "it's not that bad actually" and they can buy a postcard, well done me
>>61374345
>no, i don't like her vocals.
But St. Vincent's vocals are way more accessible compared to let's say Joanna Newsom. If you listen to her music long enough you'll get used to them.
>>61374415
>If you listen to her music long enough you'll get used to them.
great, so I should force myself to endure them in order to get to what exactly?
joanna newsome I'm not crazy about either, but at least she's incredibly ambitious in her music making.
st. vincent sounds like a bunch of first ideas slapped together "good enough!"
>>61374046
How ridiculous that post will sound to you if in the future it will happen to you to get into her music? Never say never. All these "herky jerky guitar driven splatters" are what makes her unique.
>>61374548
>How ridiculous that post will sound to you if in the future it will happen to you to get into her music?
honestly, I will treasure it and claim it as my own, just like I did with Autechre and Young Thug. I couldn't stand both of those and now love them.
I don't think that'll happen with St. Vincent. The music is very boring to me. That's the one thing that music can't be, boring. I don't mean like furniture music, drone, vaporwave, whatever, I mean conceptually boring and boring in execution.
Like Candlebox
>>61374496
>great, so I should force myself to endure them in order to get to what exactly?
Enjoyment. Take it as a challenge. Some artists simply take some effort to understand their music. St. Vincent is one of them.
>>61374612
Well, if it's very boring to you and you don't want to waste your time with her music, why don't ignore her? You will not magically start liking it without listening to it.
>>61374350
I hated that at first, it seemed so incongruous, now I feel like the song wouldn't work without it.
>>61374625
>Some artists simply take some effort to understand their music.
ok so educate me. what exactly is there to understand? that she plays through guitar pedals?
>>61374625
>why don't ignore her? You will not magically start liking it without listening to it.
BECAUSE /MU/ WON'T SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT SO I'M LIKE "WHAT IS THE FUCKING SECRET TO THIS SHITTY MUSIC?"
>>61374716 cont.
where I'm coming from is this: I can't stand 'not getting' something. It's like nails on a chalkboard. I want to understand why people like everything.
>>61374669
That's an interesting thing about her music. There are some parts that seem out of place but somehow really work. For example that noisy guitar solo on Marrow. On a first listen it may seem random, but it isn't.
>>61374716
http://www.scaruffi.com/vol7/stvincen.html
educate yourself
>>61368259
Because this is a music board and you guys never actually talk about her music. Want to know why? Because it's mediocre and not worth mentioning. Maybe if you actually talked about her music, instead of circle jerking about your tumblrina waifu it'd be more acceptable. Annie threads are on the same tier as kpop general yet worse.
>>61374716
>BECAUSE /MU/ WON'T SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT SO I'M LIKE "WHAT IS THE FUCKING SECRET TO THIS SHITTY MUSIC?"
You can filter her threads.
The secret is that this kinda weird music will sound natural to you if you listen to it long enough. You have to actually listen to it even if you don't like it. It will grow on you at some point and it will be rewarding. Stop complaining and do some effort.
>>61371930
This is smart though. The fact that a lot of people won't even look at you if you don't have an agent is bullshit.
>>61374931
>Because this is a music board and you guys never actually talk about her music.
There is still some talking about her music though. After her new album will be out there will be a lot more meaningful discussions.
>Because it's mediocre and not worth mentioning.
To you. Like it or not, there are people that listen and like her music. Most of them stay away from threads about her because of the intense shitposting and trolling.
>>61375048
Is she working on a new album already? Didn't the s/t just come out?
>>61375094
she's doing an album with brian eno
>>61375094
almost two years ago
>>61375134
>>61375173
Really? I thought it came out this year for some reason.
>>61368368
I remember that
It was the Kate bush documentary where she described getting the sensual world as a teenager, and then in some other interview she was like "I have 1 album of hers lol it's the one where she has the key in her mouth on the front"
I was confused
>>61375211
Notice that she also released Love This Giant between Strange Mercy & St. Vincent plus toured that album.
>>61375134
Rumors. Don't believe anything until it's officially confirmed.
>>61369795
>generic pop songs
>hard to get into
>>61375094
Annie's already working on a new album for quite some time. She said in an interview that she's kinda workaholic. I wouldn't be surprised if she will release it in 2016.
>>61375323
>generic pop songs
The paradox: how these could be generic pop songs if there aren't similar songs to them?
>>61375323
>generic pop songs
you must feel very embarrassed right now
How do I stop listening to St. Vincent? I'd slept on her for a long time, always heard about her, listened to a song here and there, but I've been listening to her constantly for 3 weeks now. When does it die down?
>>61369668
>cute
>>61375323
Also: why do you call these pop songs when they're actually indie rock songs? Would you call a song like this generic pop song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1LHX5chlH0
>>61375409
Scaruffi confirmed for poptimist turbopleb
Lmao
>>61375409
>>you must feel very embarrassed right now
>posts Scaruffi quotes
Apologies. Didn't know I'm talking to someone who can't formulate their own opinions. Figured you were a Vinnie fan.
>>61375409
to add salt on wounds
>>61375414
After a long time, maybe.
because /mu/ liked annie but then too many people started to like her so she's shit now
It's no surprise that St. Vincent is a controversial artist on these boards. Some like her, some hate her, like usual. In meantime she makes some astounding music.
>>61375390
Art=form+content
>>61375409
>tries to shame somebody
>quotesScaruffi
>>61375461
"Indie rock" (what the fuck do you mean?) is pop music, everything you listen to is pop music, from Captain Beefheart to DJ Shadow. Do yourself a favor and listen music t'was made before 1950.
You guys can't see beyond form, it ain't my problem.
>>61375713
You couldn't be more pretentious than that. Go and listen to your incredibly boring field recordings and leave us the normal people alone.
>>61375713
what a faggy post you've made there, anon
>>61375713
>"Indie rock" (what the fuck do you mean?)
You're incredibly stupid or you just exited your cave for the first time?
To cure your idiocy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_rock
>>61368282
I came
>>61375600
Yep, i have been here for several years and this is basically how it went. She was really liked here, specially when Actor and Strange Mercy were released, then came the meme of Byrne ruining her and then the meme hair etc.
to be completely honest it is just a minority being very vocal. I dont give a fuck about other anons opinions anyway, nobody should do, listen to the music you like and keep searching for new music.
>>61376090
Some /mu/tant assholes tried to turn her into a meme, hence the non-stop shitposting.
>>61376225
What are the odds this coincided with her dating Cara?
>>61373424
/thread
>>61373424
Probably true
she's a memic ponzi scheme that's starting to crash because people are actually listening to her music
Anyone know where I can get her b-sides?
>>61377487
ugh she got fat
what a great ass
>>61377616
Pick only one:
>annie
>fat
>>61377616
Annie's pretty skinny tbqh
there was this post on mu a while ago going on about this one live performance she did and how fucking insufferably pretentious it was and linked the video
does anyone know which one im talking about? iirc she did some spoken word about something pretentious and cringe
I can help you. B-sides and some various songs.
https://mega.nz/#!cJ4UiYRK!OXacWXGv3oFiehz3b3c0fvGWxu6HplKHw163dQvuRqM
>Ratsliveonnoevilstar
01. Annie Clark - Bliss
02. Annie Clark - Circle
03. Annie Clark - Count (Revisited)
>4AD Session
01. St. Vincent - Chloe in the Afternoon
02. St. Vincent - Surgeon
03. St. Vincent - Strange Mercy
04. St. Vincent - Cheerleader
05. St. Vincent - Year of the Tiger
>Covers
Nirvana & St. Vincent - Lithium
St. Vincent - Dig a Pony
St. Vincent - Kerosene
St. Vincent - My Funny Valentine
St. Vincent - Need You Tonight
St. Vincent - Never Tear Us Apart
St. Vincent - She Is Beyond Good and Evil
St. Vincent - Some of Them Are Old
St. Vincent - Tango Till They're Sore
>Various
Bon Iver & St. Vincent - Rosyln
St. Vincent - Bad Believer
St. Vincent - Bang Bang
St. Vincent - Bicycle
St. Vincent - Del Rio
St. Vincent - Early Autumn
St. Vincent - Grot
St. Vincent - Krokodil
St. Vincent - Make Believe
St. Vincent - Oh My God
St. Vincent - Pieta
St. Vincent - Sparrow
St. Vincent - Teenage Talk
St. Vincent - The Antidote
St. Vincent - These Days
St. Vincent - This Wave
>>61377962
Oh my good golly, thanks man!
>>61377900
That speech? Completely rehearsed and intentional. It was part of the show. It's sad that some people don't have any sense of humor.
>>61378005
>that speech
im not sure, post a link
>>61377986
You're welcome.
>>61378005
That doesn't mean it can't be pretentious.
>>61378005
>Completely rehearsed and intentional.
No shit. I don't see how that makes it not pretentious and grating.
If anything it makes her monologues worse. They come across as very try-hard and forced and are general trite as fuck.
>>61378109
It's intentionaly pretentious. It's funny how people can't see that. Not counting her pretentious dance. It's like a choreography routine.
>>61378116
when she did that at the show i went to it was just funny and short
i don't know what it is wrong with you guys
>>61378349
This happens on every Annie thread. Just finding every little way to discredit her and her music. Don't get too upset mate
>>61378344
doing x intentionally doesn't absolve criticism of x
>>61378436
I love her music but think she's a pretentious and annoying twat.
>>61378024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHjELj8FhD8#t=11m55s
She did that kind of speech on every show of her Digital Witness tour (way shorther though). They're kind of the same absurd speeches like those from Top Gear when Stig was introduced by Jeremy Clarkson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y86nbhR5exE
>>61378478
But it's part of the show. Skipping them is like skipping Moonchild.
>>61378488
She's a bit pretentious, but annoying? Come on. She does her own thing and doesn't affect you at all, so why so mad?
>>61378607
I'm not mad.
Every interview she does rubs me the wrong way so I just don't watch them. She's annoying to me. She's every negative hipster stereotype personified.
>>61378349
I'm also wondering what the hell is wrong with these dudes. They take everything (even things that are supposed to be funny or lighthearted) so seriously like it's the end of the world.
>>61378581
BRUH WHO SKIPS MOONCHILD
>>61378710
You seem to be the one taking things a bit too seriously in this thread hombre.
Some people don't like her personality for various reasons and some people can't get into her music. Big fucking deal. She doesn't need an internet defense squad to protect her from criticism made on a forum full of anonymous strangers that she'll never read.
Christ
Will we never be able to talk about female music artists normally because we feel the need to idolize them and spam everyone about how much we love them even though we dont actually like their music, but rather their looks and the idea of them?
Fucking waifu fags
>>61378830
Speak for yourself
>>61378809
But the comments that I'm replying to aren't funny or lighthearted in the first place...
>>61378904
see >>61378809
enjoy spamming people with shit no one cares about and then dump them for the next hot woman
>>61378809
>implying she's not here right now
>>61378982
If Annie could see the shit that gets put on here about her
>>61378982
>implying she doesn't spend all of her internet time on pleasure.loathing.hewey.newton on usenet
>>61371930
that is either really funny or really smart.
>>61377819
that backside
>>61378538
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THIS WHORE CANT BE SERIOUS TOP KEK
ITS CRINGE WORTHY BECAUSE ITS REDDIT TIER HUMOR HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Am I too ill-informed to not know what /mu/ currently hates or will I be in greater health not knowing?
>>61381063
"Why does ___ hate ____?" is just a way people on 4chan like to make threads about things they like and want to try and be sneaky about it.
>>61381705
Obviously it's pretty effective
I will listen to whatever she puts out next but man has she taken the starfucking bait. (I'm not trying to argue about "muh obscurity," it's just a problem I've had recently with the confluence of high fashion and "indie" e.g. Yves Saint Laurent's touting some newish heroin chic out of L.A. as the "new" thing.)
>>61371930
Not a bad idea at all, if she wasn't joking.
>>61377962
>Nirvana & St. Vincent
Let's be real.
>>61368270
omfg lol
i love old annie, my marry me vinyl just came in today
