Post an album that is avant garde ~
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>>61142956
i've heard the album, that's... not very avant garde anon.
>>61142975
כן פשוט רציתי לפרסם משהו ישראלי וזה בעיה כי אין לנו שום דבר שהוא ניסיוני בשום צורה
the money store XDDDDDDD niggas on the moon !
>>61142990
I posted the best israeli album i heard in the prog thread >>61142958
>>61143007
are you okay?
>>61143027
I saw you talk about it earlier, I guess I can try it out
Thank you ~
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Swans - Pubic castartn is agood aife
reminder that popularity is not relevant when discussing if something is avant-garde or not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZsH4IU5jcM
>>61143481
true but i still wound't define this album as avant garde personally, regardless of it's popularity.
>>61143481
Avant-garde means "ahead of its time".
I probably wouldn't call anything released in the last 10 years avant-garde; we have to wait a while to see how the scene has developed.
>>61143623
no it doesn't lol
>>61143623
that's not what it means
>>61143646
>>61143667
What do you think it means?
>>61143673
One of my favorite albums desu
>>61143040
That's not avant garde
>>61143700
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avant-garde_music
>>61143718
>forefront of experimentation or innovation in its field
Yeah, basically what I said. It's innovative, ahead of its time.
If I'd gone back in time and play a Skrillex album in the 1950's, it would have been avant-garde, because it uses instruments and techniques people haven't heard at the time.
Avant-garde is not an absolute term; It depends on the context.
>>61143867
no that's not what that means lol. i could play some genre and an instrument from 150 years ago but if i played it with a different technique that'd be avant garde. it's not really an adjective with a literal translation.
>>61143867
Innovation =/= ahead of its time =/= avant garde. That's like saying Blackout by britney spears is avant garde.
Not avant
Not garde
Not good
>>61143918
So for you, the term means anything that's 'weird'?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uee_mcxvrw
What about this, then? It's probably the most avant-garde thing on the charts.
>>61143935
As pretentious as it sounds, popular music can't be avant-garde. (Popular Music as in the term, not its actual popularity)
There are plenty of cases where popular musicians have been doing something new, that influenced others, but avant means completely rejecting the dogmas. Popular music borrows ideas and techniques from art music,
>>61144061
uh no that's not what i said. for example, nico's work is avant garde but it does not sound "ahead of its time".
>>61143646
>>61143667
so is avant-garde music just mallgoth-core?
"album"
>>61144332
2avant4me
>>61143623
>Avant-garde means "ahead of its time".
uh no it doesn't.
"The avant-garde (from French, "advance guard" or "vanguard", literally "fore-guard") are people or works that are experimental or innovative, particularly with respect to art, culture, and politics. The avant-garde pushes the boundaries of what is accepted as the norm or the status quo, primarily in the cultural realm."
