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>>61115218
what piece is this?
good morning friends
Franck's symphony is so delicious slutty
>>61115891
a piece of shit
>>61116068
Franck is underrated desu
>>61116075
idk it looks like a scarlatti sonata
>>61116087
His piano music is p good
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata
Had this on repeat today. Not sure how it makes me feel, it sounds kinda gloomy but also sort of gloomy optimistic. At the same time it is sort of creepy
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tr0otuiQuU
>>61116123
Ding ding ding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9Ed8-dasDg&t=22m49s
>>61115218
>4 sevenths in a row
pretty weird
>>61116580
Huh never heard of this piece before
Can anyone recommend me best Mozart pianist beside Mitsuko Uchida?
>>61118499
maria yudina
>>61118499
Arthur Schnabel
Edwin Fischer
Solomon
Maria Yudina
Clara Haskil
Robert Casadesus
Clifford Curzon
Annie Fischer
Wilhelm Kempff
Emil Gilels
Geza Anda
Stephen Kovacevich (when hes not eccentric)
Fredrich Gulda (when hes not eccentric)
Ivan Moravec
Dmitry Bashkirov
Andreas Staier
Maurizio Pollini (sometimes)
list goes on
is there any good quarter-tone music or is it just a gimmick?
>>61118786
Turkish and southeast asian music allegedly use quartertones in a natural way. I'm sure there's plenty to explore with quarter-tones, so that it's not a gimmick, but the return on investment for figuring out quarter-tone harmony is low unless you compose with it.
>>61118499
Cubase.
>>61118786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOat_xsGUOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izFgt2tZ0Oc
not quarter tone but microtonal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJQsR-Z5aDc
pretty much all of harry partch's stuff
could you link me to some music similar to https://youtu.be/7hcXxdzeQO4?t=4m46s
>>61120132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkSRL6PU1ZA
Kind of?
>>61120436
Sorry, I meant to link the 3rd part only (starting at 4m46s)
I love Satie but it's not what I'm looking for. Thanks though
So I'll try asking you guys again 'cause I got no response.
Best Fidelio recording?
>>61118786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHI2xyyH-CU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23ImVLezV4c
It certainly isn't a gimmick, its a standard in many parts of the world.
>>61120652
Klemperer '48
>>61120132
morton feldman, luciano cilio, john zorn
>>61120132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt_Tc0DXcFQ
Is The Große Fuge the most fedora piece ever conceived?
>>61122380
>pointlessly wanking with dissonance on top of consonance
>pointlessly creating sprawling hodgepodges in the name of "motivic development"
such compose wow
>pointlessly wanking with dissonance by itself
>pointlessly wanking with free form
such babel not wow
I mean I hate it just as much as I hate all of Beethoven's music, but the flak it gets is either 100% undeserved OR 100% of Beethoven's music deserves the same kind of flak. You can't have it both ways.
>>61122642
>>61122922
wow a fat person wearing a hat
nice argument
Bump
Segerstam is wonderful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZjNtttsT_k
How can i become a better listener?I will have to learn music theory but am i missing something else?
>>61124118
be attentive and don't overdo it. background in music theory is recommended for appreciation, but not necessary.
>>61124118
>>61124165
If it requires theory in order to enjoy, it's not good music.
>>61124199
that's my point. it adds a nice touch to understanding historical development, but certainly isn't necessary.
>>61118499
Maria Joao Pires, Richard Goode, Alicia de Larrocha
>>61123934
Good at Sibelius for sure. Slow, but brings out a lot of detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNEMq2HJJzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lrhE2J0qcc
anybody know any bassoon concerti?
So who won the elaborately orchestrated unnecessarily complex harmony contest that was held post-Wagner?
>>61127544
Mozart, Weber, the list goes on...
>>61127582
Francaix is only one I know besides those mentioned in
>>61127582
However there are loads of Double/Triple Concerti with Bassoon as one of the soloists.
>>61127688
>However there are loads of Double/Triple Concerti with Bassoon as one of the soloists.
Such as? I'm looking for something modern alla Prokofiev.
>>61127544
vivaldi wrote over 50 bassoon concerti
>>61128992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBlVARagiSk
>>61129286
>>61129197
>>61127582
Okay thanks family.
>>61127574
Strauss. Stockhausen, Ferneyhough.
>>61117670
Its great
Is the password for extracting the downloads in the OP the same for all of them? What is it?
>>61131761
>password
Nevermind. It was in the filename. I'm actually retarded.
>>61130002
Fuck off Poly
Where do you draw the line between baroque and classical? Categorize the following compositions in either the baroque or classical era:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYjlSozUzvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg0Q0wbo-Uc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Bm_FzsCjo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zuYIB71gIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAiEfy58RTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e0xH3cggYQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYPq8NbPzyE
>>61133518
Fuck, this is hard.
>>61133518
>1
Baroque. Very much Baroque. Its all in the ornamentation.
>2
Baroque - those sequences, those tuttis, that basso continuo
>3
Classical - that prasing, that sentence form. that orchestration - held notes in the woodwinds. lack of baroque ornamentations
>4 Baroque - those sequences, that basso continuo, those ornamentations
>5 Baroque - Those ornamentations, that harpsichord, that contrapuntal texture
>6 Classical - That clarity, those bass motifs, those clear lines. Some quite baroque ornamentation though.
>7 - Baroque - Those ornamentations are so baroque its not funny. contrapuntal as fuck, ornamentation on top of ornamentation. Also harpsichord doesn't help it sound classical.
Basically Baroque period is ornamented as fuck, with thick contrapuntal textures.
Classical period has very clear lines, interesting bass and non-melodic material, often in motivic form, often homophonic, and with clear textures. It very rarely uses baroque-tier ornamentation.
>>61133638
it really isn't
The two periods sound distinctly different if you know what to listen for.
>>61133679
I guess I'm retarded.
>>61133664
So a piece can sound classical even if it's composed earlier than the inception of the era.
>>61133687
I guess you mean the Giles piece? (Rosetti firmly falls within the Classical period)
I didn't listen to the whole thing, but it may be because its a requiem that it dispenses with the heavy ornamentation and contrapuntal textures. Starting with those drums is also very unusual so may not be your standard baroque piece.
It does have some pretty heavy baroque ornamentation which give it away.
>>61133717
Yeah, I was thinking that church music may not actually fit into the whole categorization scheme for the styles. Can something else be created for this?
For example here's a baroque sacred piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bf0-LT6EZg
and a classical piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laO7Zi6Zsm8
Here's something that blurs the line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACt8yCebGkM
>>61133786
If you want a hard and fast rule, anything written after 1750 is classical period.
You're right though that last piece is a combination of the Mozart requiem and Pergolesi's Stabat mater, quite interesting.
>>61133810
I think the labels :"baroque" and "classical" should be more than temporal labels, but there might not be something concrete that can be said about the respective styles of church music after all.
Oh well, worth a try.
>>61133845
Its tough becuase music doesn't just magically go from one style to another, it evolves slowly over 5 to 10 to 50 years. You can classify some composers are "Transitional" like Beethoven or Mozart between Classical and Romantic period. Then it just comes down to listing the baroque or classical elements in each piece by the transitional composers. you can say he used X, Y and Z of baroque music, but started using A and B later on in his life, which are very classical.
>>61133867
Even some single pieces have baroque and classical elements in them. I guess the question becomes if it's even reasonable to say a pieces is "baroque", say, if it has more baroque elements than classical elements? Because there's definitely a departure of Facco's style from Farina's style, for example.
>nearly 2016
>people still believe there is a meaningful "classical style" outside of Haydn Mozart and Beethoven which is applicable to all the music during the late 18th/early 19th centuries
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/S48422793#p48423214
>2015
>People are still autistic about generally accepted labels
>Posting /b/ tier image reactions instead of /classical/ related
bedrich smetiggy shiggy
>>61135066
he looks upset
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6OQpkOUijE
such meme much feast wow
boring
>>61136861
well now that you're here its exciting
>>61136830
so jewy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne7XYi1i5l0
Wolfgang Rihm - String Quartet no. 4
>The String Quartet No 4 is an extremely emotional work, full of harsh contrasts, passionate outbursts, craggy in its progress; therefore it is formally difficult to pin down. The sequence of two fast movements and one slow final farewell is unusual, whereby the hefty unisono run-up at the start also corresponds structurally to the resignation of the close as it seeps away. The first part – dominated by its ascending motif – issues into an alla Marcia, allegro ma non troppo which, for a short time, entails uniformly shaped passages. The second movement also has a bipartite layout: a predominantly chordal introduction and an “aria” (beginning subito andante), whose cantabile character is short-lived. There is a “long rest” preceding the final movement; it begins ethereally, then flares up briefly before being extinguished rapidly.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bvk0a1921qzqb6f/Eruditos+-+Wolfgang+Rihm+-+String+Quartet+No.+4.zip
I'm really sorry if this is in some way a breach of the rules. I was browsing /pol/, and I got linked to a fairly stupid video about the decline of the West, or something - I didn't finish watching, in truth, because at one point there's a really great bit of music in it, and I can't find out what it is; I feel like it might be famous, but I'm not certain. If anyone here would give this video a listen and tell me if they recognise it, I'd be immensely grateful.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7lwypeJzAkE
From 6:16 to 6:55. Ignore the overlayed narration at one point.
>>61138642
Sounds like it was composed in the last century. Nothing too famous.
![FFB[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IyvbqCK.jpg "FFB[1].jpg")
What precisely is wrong with this sort of music again?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1SIwnWSpKw
I think either I have no sense of economy or you guys are all closet minimalists.
what was the best thing from 2015 you heard ?
>>61139961
My own nocturne to be honest.
https://soundcloud.com/spookypianostuff/nocturne
So can composers 'hear' the chords and stuff they write in their heads? Or do they partially just write stuff by thinking it through logically, knowing the 'rules' of harmony and writing based off of that.
>>61140181
One of them certainly had to hear them in his head...
>>61140227
How much was the advanced tonality in beethoven's later works a logical consequence of his early works rather than him no longer having hearing to remind him that dissonance can be unpleasant?
>>61140181
Each composer is different, but the good ones should be able to hear everything in the head, harmonies / chords / and all. Then they write it down and make it even better and examine the music to see if any rules need following or any counterpoint can be done better.
Time for Threadly Wind Appreciation
>Wolfgan Amadeus Mozart Quintet for Piano and Winds in Eb K.452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zxqpLEQcp0
>Gioacchino Rossini Sonata No.1 for Quartet in F (Wind transcription)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcGQ18yTdZM
>Jean Francaix Wind Quintet No.1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz0IuxHxOD8
>Jean Francaix Wind Quintet No.2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6y3HBZIH3U
>Samuel Barber, Summer Music for Wind Quintet Part 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBOjvIhm2Cs
>Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VBrJHafsJw
>Francis Poulenc Sextet for Piano And Winds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPrPV67JAVA
>Erwin Schulhoff Hot Sonate, I. Viertel=66
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERlUsfGtBe8
>II. Halbe=112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phx5yPsBY74
>III. Viertel=80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfBMz0-vxec
>IV. Halbe=132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_8ulZ3fSz4
The names and numbers on these 4 movements are referring to tempo markings (Halbe=60 means Half note=60bpm And Viertel=80 means Quarter note=80bpm)
Unfortunately there were some of these I wanted different performers but they're not available on Youtube here we go.
>>61140997
>wind appreciation
Huh huh huh huh hu he heheheheh heheh e he
Mozart approves.
>>61141014
I just feel that there isn't enough Wind representation in these threads. It's always "Muh Klaviersonate/Streichquartett"
So figured give some of what I feel for great representations of wind chamber music and really I need more oboe/bassoon recs. Do you happen to know any?
Time for the unsolicited Mexican classical dump:
Silvestre Revueltas - Sensemaya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJxd0nIY1oA
Manuel Maria Ponce - Sonatas (played by Segovia)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3Jt44-6UI
Carlos Chavez - Symphony No. 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKoq4KOHUEU
Blas Galindo - Sones de Mariachi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdKAlGlNZd0
Daniel Catan - Florencia en el Amazonas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z_W8nF8P7M
Eduardo Hernández Moncada - Costeña
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mLyle7B7n4
Cenobio Hernandez - Decepciones del Alma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aX4iqovUj8
Quirino Mendoza y Cortés - Cielito Lindo (original composition where every other version is derived from)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=natwdmuakZA
Arturo Marquez - Danzon No. 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA7vEIj6Lzk
Macedonio Alcalá Prieto - Dioz Nunca Muere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtsXHpgjt6E
Candelario Huízar García de la Cadena - Symphony No. 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H98ojSip4nE
Salvador Contreras Sanchez - Danza Negra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDudkE9Dr7U
Julián Carrillo Trujillo (microtonal composer, very interesting) - Cromometrofonía
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF50so3nWJk
Carlos Jiménez Mabarak - Symphony No. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuSIKIRP0a4
Luis Herrera de la Fuente - Fronteras
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=latesJ1XDak
Mario Lavista - Quotations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbnYRvik-nk
Héctor Quintanar Prieto - Small Overture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-vA9fiOj1Y
Manuel Enrique Salazar - Movil I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VoriySAyc4
>>61141014
>Mozart Approves
Figure I should also add this
>Mozart - Sinfonia Concertante for Four Winds in E flat, K. 297b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpOOJWTT_LY
>>61141164
José Pablo Moncayo García - Huapango
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07-kvAU85wM
Jose Rolon - Danzas Indigenas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf8SPktJrBE
Joaquin Gutiérrez Heras - Postludio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLyCjIXOx2E
Felipe de Jesús Villanueva Gutiérrez - Vals Poetico
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkOL0lBavL8
José Juventino Policarpo Rosas Cadenas - Sobre Las Olas (Over The Waves, which everyone and their fucking grandmum knows)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=090zNqcqZF4
Federico Ibarra Groth - Sonata No. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxUtg05GQtY
Enrico Chapela - Magnetar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rtBUM9eOAQ
Ricardo Castro - Cello Concerto in C minor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfZQG6EW94s
Gustavo Ernesto Campa - Melody for Violin & Orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7rMpTEdbfs
Julio Ituarte - Ecos de Mexico
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHMo9RTkV60
Melesio Morales - Nezahuacoyotl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdHnbnyuebY
Guadalupe Olmedo - Segunda Rêverie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjBB2BCGuU8
Tomas Leon - Laura (Only piece I've found of his)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YNQIGAoeEs
José Damián Mariano Elízaga - Ultimas Variaciones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az24pQQQaLk
Juan García Esquivel - Dark Eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMr7oAACyqw
Gonzalo Curiel Barba - Llevame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkT1x-IUfhU
(getting colonial here)
Juan de Lienas - Lamentatio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9BfO4g1F3A
Manuel Arenzana - Te Deum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-LueIRsP7M
Manuel de Zumaya - Celebren, publiquen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWL7VAwQtKM
/r/equesting a good download for Dvorak's New World Symphony.
>>61142302
https://mega.nz/#!oUpS3YBQ!V5ldzcDQx9HHCrWA5NgNmqGLXfMgyeoGmcqCN2m-4tY
Bump
What're you gonna listen to come Christmas?
What is the correct way to tag classical music?
>>61136830
You stole my meme you bastard
Also Le Festin d'Memesope is overrated
>tfw no countertenor boyfriend
Why even live?
Getting into /classical/ the past couple years as I've been studying and learning to play violin, and loving all the Dvorak I've heard so far, what are some composers with strong, loud music like his? Recommend performers too if you can, I have whatcd. I mostly play and have been studying chamber music so I haven't heard much like his work.
For that matter are there any better performances of Dvorak I could be listening to? Listening to Jacqueline du Pré and Thomas Albertus Irnberger for his concertos and sonatas, then I have pic related for his largo from the new world. I'm not really sure what to look for in performers when looking at torrents.
>>61145733
>countertenors
enjoy your flat faced fatsos, the typical facial shape of a baritone is way more attractive
>>61145929
You wot?
>>61144846
Whatever way is easiest for you to access in your music library.
100th for vastly underrated instrument
>3 Swell Boxes
>Great Reeds
>Huge Bombarde Chorus
>>61145815
Here are some meme conductors to look out for.
What are some essential recordings of Fauré's chamber works?
I've seen some complete compilations on discogs that features Collard, but other than that I don't know anybody else.
>>61127544
Mozart, Weber, Hummel, Theofanidis, Gordon Jacob, Vivaldi, Kozeluh
