What are some essential gentrification-core?
radiohead
>>61110090
i buy pbr because it's cheap as dirt and it's not terrible, and I don't even look close to that guy
>>61110090
Arctic Monkeys
>>61110090
Vampire Weekend
Anything from post 9/11 New York
>>61110090
ugh i seriously fucking hate those beards. jesus fucking christ.
>>61110183
>it's not terrible
wrong
>I don't even look close to that guy
defensive statements.
lying.
why does everyone wanna look like hitler youth?
DIIV
>>61110090
The Strokes
Arctic Monkeys
Spoon
The Moon and Antarctica
Kind of Blue and Kind of Blue ONLY for jazz
basically shit made for teenagers
G-Eazy, Machine Gun Kelly, Macklemack, Mac Miller, Kid Rock the list goes on....
>>61110223
you're right thats actually me in the pic
fuck.
>>61110090
you know, I see a lot of disdain for man-buns, yet everybody still seems to love undercuts, and they've been around longer and are far more insufferable
>>61110214
They make any race look like mudslime I don't get the appeal
Gentrification is an anti-capitalist buzzword. There's nothing unfair about people spending their money how and where they want.
But it sure was better back in the good old days when there were more slums.
>>61110250
One of them is absolutely NOT like the others.
and the others are tweaker white trash monster energy snapbaco core.
>>61110214
those beards are just what happen when you don't shave for a while
i like them
>>61110263
can i cum on your beard?
PBR isnt even the hip beer anymore. also i would love to live in that house
>>61110311
My fallout 4 looks almost identical to the guy in the picture, except he has black hair.
>tfw you are the only hipster in the post-war nuclear wasteland
>>61110311
thats clearly a shaped beard. it also has product in it for sure. its not a meh whatever beard
>>61110315
do it on a print out and send it to me at [email protected]
; *
>>61110283
But most people who live in gentrified neighborhoods are left leaning alternative art majors who fund small organizations fighting against capitalism and poverty
>>61110379
kek
>>61110290
>One of them is absolutely NOT like the others.
Honestly for its all the same shit, just different toilets.
Joanna Newsom to be desu honestly
>>61110204
oh come on
>>61110463
You know it to be true.
The terrorists didn't win, the hipsters did.
>>61110491
but williamsburg isn't on manhatten and the area around the trade centers was already posh
>>61110435
but everybody says hipsters are mostly pretty liberal, aren't they?
>>61110519
yet
>>61110239
to prepare for the purge
Isn't gentrification when law-abiding, non-violent white people move into minority heavy cities, take over and then in turn the city becomes prosperous, safer and clean?
Brooklyn went from "HARDCORE" to a comfy tourist attraction for young people
>>61110522
yea but they dont do anything about it
>leftists complain about white flight
>leftists complain about gentrification
>>61110530
no, im pretty sure the city isn't going to move
>>61110552
Why are you talking about yourself?
>>61110090
>not living on the west coast and having Rainier
Enjoy your pleb cheap beer
>>61110577
rainier is owned by PBR. they also own olympia. all three don't even taste that different from each other
>>61110552
I don't get that. Why do they give a fuck where people move to?
>>61110556
yet
>>61110626
Well shit.
>>61110646
because they see being poor is something to be proud of
It's part of their culture
>>61110552
wait, leftists are COMPLAINING?!!
serious question and i hope this doesn't spark some BS /pol/ shit, but is it only gentrification if it's white people? or is it gentrification if it's a wealthier person/family, despite race?
>>61110743
it's a retarded concept made up to bash white people, what do you think?
>>61110743
>or is it gentrification if it's a wealthier person/family, despite race?
this
>>61110646
Because those evil whiteys are racist when they move out of areas that are on a terminal decline
>>61110646
because it displaces lower income families.
a bunch of trust fund kids move to brooklyn and the area starts to look really attractive to investors. This causes prices to rise as everyone wants a piece of the pie. This causes rent to rise as property owners realize they can be rolling in that sweet sweet hip$ter do$h. This uproots families that basically have no say in what's happening to them.
>>61110743
What if upper class black guys (like those nigerian refugees with masters degrees making a shit ton of money) move into a neighborhood full of white trash and make it posh?
Beach House & Mac Demarco
>>61110743
it's typically white people that gentrify because they're the most socially and economically mobile demographic in the states. But no, it's not about race. It's about class and education.
>>61110743
Its gentrification regardless, although its worth noting that gentrification is more of an overall thing than part of any single household moving in.
But if you're talking about most western countries, it tends to be white people (and stereotypically hipsters, though that's more of an inner city gentrification thing rather than a suburban gentrification thing) simply because of demographics.
>>61110743
ok it's been answered, we're done here.
>>61110757
thats completely not true but ok
>>61110743
it can be any race but it is often whites moving into areas of mostly different races.
>>61110743
I think it's more of a middle-class thing than a racial thing, but the majority of gentrifiers are probably white
>>61110801
example: my neighborhood has had a lot of homes for sale, smaller bungalows that are now torn down and made into mansions owned by people of color. is that gentrification?
>>61110249
>The Moon and Antarctica
>>61110646
People care because generally white people moving in = jack up the cost of living, which forces poor black people and such to move out of their shitholes into other shitholes in arguably even shittier places in the city. It's actually a pretty bad thing when you look at it objectively and not as a pseudo conservative edge master
>>61110794
hipsters? do hipsters have enough money for gentrification? i'd say it's people who aren't fucking idiots who have money for the project. (OF COURSE THEY'RE WHITE)
>>61110828
yes
>>61110757
>>61110766
>these replies
>>61110828
>people of color
i hate this term and i hate you
>>61110829
i love the moon and Antarctica too but you gotta learn to accept it
>>61110828
Probably. Depends a bit on the circumstances and its a fairly long overall process, but yeah.
>>61110846
>TRIGGERED
Go cry a river tripfaggot.
>>61110846
oh sorry, i meant people from countries in another continent where the majority are not caucasian
>>61110835
Generally yes. You don't need a lot of money when you're mostly buying out apartments and townhouses rather than mcmansions.
>>61110342
>playing Fallout 4
What an absolute C U C K
>>61110846
y tho?
>>61110866
>>61110873
It's just a weird term that came out of college towns, and it's only ever said by white people to feel progressive or black people when they're addressing white people. I see it as a term for anti-racists.
Saying "people of color", it's basically a re-translation of "colored person" which is viewed as racist and outdated. You're just switching the syntax around a little bit. It's the new word for reverse-racists to call black people.
>>61110879
to be fair its not usually the hipsters that do the gentrification, its age 30+ mainstream people with good jobs. the hipsters just turn a poor area into a trendy popular one. by the time all the old buildings are gone its usually not the hip spot anymore
>>61110905
because it implies that there are two types of people: whites and non-whites
Any & all New York jazz musicians.
90's hip hop
AnCo
Diiv
Beirut
Grimes
Bon Iver
Rim Banna
the weekend
white scruffy moody RnB singers (Chet Faker, JVM, HtdW)
>>61110910
>Saying "people of color", it's basically a re-translation of "colored person" which is viewed as racist and outdated.
>White people call black people colored and other racist shite.
>You're just switching the syntax around a little bit.
>Yes so stop saying it!!! :'(((((((
>It's the new word for reverse-racists to call black people.
What the fuck.
Thanks for the you though.
oh my fucking god, can you pieces of shit stop trying to turn this place into /pol/
i don't even mean like full of edgy nazi-sympathizers or something, i just mean all this sociopolitical discussion is garbage and it's a fucking waste of space on a board that is for the discussion of MUSIC
>>61110912
Gentrification doesn't require tearing down the old buildings (although that usually will start to happen by the end of things). If the average price - or rent for that matter - in an area doubles in a few years due to it becoming the hipster hideaway it pretty much has the same effect as people buying up all the old houses to knock em down and rebuild.
>>61110953
>Gentrification doesn't require tearing down the old buildings
well yes, thats true. i just meant by the time its gone through its change from poor to yuppie
>>61110926
This is literally what black people constantly imply though?
>>61110845
>Immigrants arrive at city
>Noticeable decline in standard of living, crime rates start to rise, displacement of original cultures and traditions
>Old inhabitants leave en masse for other areas similar to what their town used to be like
>Old inhabitants are replaced by more immigrants creating a positive feedback loop until all of the old inhabitants decide to leave
>City is objectively awful after a couple of decades
>Investors buy up all the cheap property and decide to not make it a ghetto shit hole
>This is seen as a bad thing
>>61110743
Its less of "White people are destroying the culture of this neighborhood!" and more of "The techies are destroying the culture of this neighborhood!". It just happens to be that the majority of techies are white.
Also I don't necessarily see gentrification as a bad thing. I mean, yeah you're losing a lot of cultural significance, but at the same time its making the neighborhood a hell of a lot more safe. I'd rather live somewhere that I could walk down an alley at night and not get mugged versus somewhere I could get a good taco within walking distance.
Source: I live in San Francisco
>>61110926
I get that, but that dichotomy already exists. It's basically just re-branding the majority-minority dichotomy.
I guess it's kind of overly PC to say People of Color when you could just say minorities, though.
less syllables, anyways.
>>61110926
I mean if you get that from the word, then go ahead.
>>61110939
fuck, is beirut really? i really liked european music for about a decade now and remember enjoying gulag orkestar alot when it released. godamit.
>>61110982
*white
FIFY
>>61110990
its not necessarily a bad thing but it pretty much always kills the art scene in the area.
>I live in San Francisco
see you can afford that. thats why other people are trying to make oakland cool now
>>61110990
I guess I never really think about the "dangerousness" of lower class neighborhoods. I'm huge and black, so people lookin for trouble don't really ever fuck with me. Honestly, people in lower class neighborhoods are way more friendly and outgoing in my experiences.
Are the shins post-hipster yet? Elliott smith?
Ghettos aren't exclusive to dark skinned people, dipshits. Have you ever been to outer SE portland? Shit's full of poor white guys who are on meth, get in fights, listen to insane clown posse and steal every fucking bike they see.
There are small redneck towns all over the US that are basically ghettos but with white people, but for some reason /pol/tards act like there are no white felons in trailers living on welfare. Trust me, I've been living in white trash towns for all my life.
>>61111063
elliott smith wasn't really ever hipster.
Too sad to do bad coke to.
>>61111067
I forgot to mention, Poverty rates are significantly higher among blacks, but still, close to 20 percent of whites live in poverty which is still a large amount. It's a socioecnomic thing, nothing to do with genetics or some shit.
>>61111067
Show them Gummo
>>61111067
yea but tiny white trash towns rarely receive gentrification. its almost always a shitty part of a city, which in many cases is populated largely by black or hispanic people. the only places i can think of happening with the poor area having mixed populations including whties in vancouvers east side and seattles capitol hill. honestly this is probably due to the relatively low population of blacks in those cities
>>61111089
You're trying to hard mate.
He's right though.
>>61111111
>>61111111
nice get
>>61111111
noice dubloons
>>61111111
WHAT A FUCKIN WASTE.
>>61111111
pls
>>61111111
>>61111111
oi oiiiiiiiiiiii
>>61111111
nice
>>61111111
Confused black man confirmed new /mu/ meme
>>61111113
>receive
Stopped reading right there.
>>61111111
>>61111111
never in my life
>>61111178
ehhhh. my point still stands. gentrification rarely happens to poor white areas
>>61111111
nice trips cunt
>>61111111
shit get in shit thread
fuck all of you
>>61111193
Cause no one else lives there other than white people?
If entire cities and towns are trailer trash then no one can expect them to improve immediately.
>>61111111
kpop general btfo
Get fucked you shitposting faggots
>>61111111
>>61111111
>>61111088
How did I quote myself rolling seps before it even happened?
>>61110743
Where I live gentrification is often associated with foreign asians.
>>61110519
brooklyn is gone man its all gentrifiers.
what the fuck is gentrification
>>61111232
>Cause no one else lives there other than white people?
no.
>If entire cities and towns are trailer trash then no one can expect them to improve immediately.
sure. but a small town in the middle of nowhere will probably not become a hot spot for gentrification. small goes for shit small towns full of blacks. if you actually read my post about you would see i gave examples of where its happened to areas with white people. its just not the norm
>>61111291
BC?
>>61111113
thats because whites tend not to live in cities. its smaller towns. they also tend to not be as "cool". a rich white trust fund kid will see a city like detroit and think "oh cool. techno. a thriving underground black music scene. lots of robbery and violence but its not the fault of the peopel its the conditions they had to face in their lives. lots of space to make art! XD. and its cheap count me in!" but that same kid would see poor whites and think wow what trash "country music, meth, nu metal, energy drinks... count me out."
Season 19 of South Park
>>61111304
gentrification is the process of gentrifying a place or thing
>>61111304
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gentrification
>>61111335
i think thats slightly exaggerated but yea, thats true. which is why i said a small town full of white hicks isn't likely to become gentrification central
>>61111324
>>61111345
>>61111367
THIS ISNT' FUCKING TUMBLE R WHERE YOU POSIT 20 IMAGES IN ONE POST FUCK OFF FOCU OFF
>>61111111
>>61111111
>>61111111
>>61111111
>>61111111
>>61111390
Autism
>>61111390
t r i g g e r e d
no such thing
nice music discussion you got going on in this thread you fucking fags
I buy pbr because I'm used to it from dive bars in brooklyn. My hair is slicked back and I have a beard. I guess I'm a hipster.
Who are some artists that could have easily fell victim to gentrifipsters but didn't and you're glad?
>>61111416
It's more related to music than that waifushit kpop general
>>61110519
Bedford ave is basically manhattan
>>61111421
>Brooklyn
>pbr
>dives
>beard
>hair
Yup you're a faggo
>>61111421
well yea, everyone is a hipster
>like fancy micro brews
hipster
>drink cheap beer cuz cheap
hipster
>be poor arts person
hipster
>be trust fund kiddie in arts area
hipster
etc etc
>>61111427
Hella true famo
>>61111421
>dive bars in brooklyn
its not 1995
>>61110743
it's driven by money (so yeah almost exclusively white people or people who pass for white)
>>61111421
>I'm used to it from dive bars in brooklyn
it's brooklyn, not bavaria
if you attended a lot of so-called "dive bars" it was your choice, not something you were forced into
such mental gymnastics, like your tedious contrarianism was "forced" upon you or something
>>61111421
> hurt durr I know I'm a hipster but I'm gonna act like I'm not and play victim even though if I were half as manly as my beard I'd just admit I like the hipster aesthetic/culture
>>61111488
he never implied he was forced.
>>61110283
I never thought of the term that way, though I can see how it took on negative connotations to people who were priced out of neighborhoods they had long inhabited. Generally speaking, gentrification is the best thing that has happened to some American cities since the 70s, and is what really saved them from financial ruin. It's such an obvious win-win solution, whether you prefer to live in cities or suburbs.
i knew browsing this board would pay off in the end. happy holidays
>>61111514
yeah no it was completely implied
being "used to something" because you actively chose to repeatedly do that thing is an entirely different thing from being used to something because you had no choice in the matter
>>61111488
not to mention what he considers a dive is definitely not a dive...
>>61111551
this is probably true in recent times
>>61111550
maybe but you don't know that. im really ok with shit beer just cuz i don't like to blow tons of money on a night out
>>61110534
It's pretty fucked up if you're on the receiving end. My hometown is being gentrified to shit and back and it's sad seeing all the people I grew up around lose their homes and move out to the sticks or some shithole like Oakland or EPA
If I hadn't moved I'd be homeless
>>61111594
>shithole like Oakland
give oakland under a decade and it will pricey and hip as shit
>>61111488
>>61111551
wtf is a dive and whats a dive bar
>>61110534
It's not an inherently bad thing. It just often leads to a loss of authenticity and culture. Sometimes there isn't anything to lose, and in those cases it's a good thing really.
>>61110879
but you need money to repair shitty cheap buildings to increase their value. i'm not talking about young cool people flooding to a cheap area and that raises value. real gentrification isn't done by hipsters it's done by people who are looking to make money.
>>61110266
nice dubs, but they are not
undercut is the self respecting man's haircut
>>61111423
I feel like iron and wine dodged it
>>61111622
A dive bar is just a shitty bar, essentially. A rundown and cheap bar which smells of smoke, all the tables are stained and you will probably be accosted by a pimp attempting to get you to fuck a prostitute or get mugged for your wallet.
And then there is what anon is probably talking about, which is an actually very clean and safe bar which is attempting to replicate the aesthetic of a place like this to appeal to a certain demographic of edgy but relatively harmless 20 somethings.
>>61111111
got dayum sun
>>61111652
Most men think undercuts are hella gay famo
>>61110788
Mac is for self hating gentifiers
>>61111687
Not at all, just depends on the length really. The length of the sides and back as compared to the top is directly proportionate to how camp/flamboyant it looks, but you can get away with more if you lift.
>>61111672
Dive bars don't have to be dangerous a dive is simply a shitty establishment i.e. Something that would counter the mainstream idea of a cool place. Of course being counter culture cool is never the intent of an actually divey place
>>61111629
and those people make money off of whites
>>61111613
>>61111613
oakland ohio not cali
>>61111672
thanks
>>61110534
Land values going over the roof make poor people unable to cope with the expenses
>tfw this is happening in my neighborhood
>will soon be forced to leave
>>61111750
imo if it's not at least slightly dodgy it's not a dive bar it's just a shit bar
Sunbather, both in that it's kinda culturally gentrifying black metal, and in that it thematically deals with gentrification and urban malaise.
>>61111613
It already kind of is in a lot of parts
Goddamn I hate living in California
>>61111753
>oakland ohio not cali
oh, my mistake
>Goddamn I hate living in California
i did too. thats why i got the fuck out of there
>>61111742
>but you can get away with more if you lift.
In regard to chicks maybe. Most dudes think you're at the least a try hard at the most an absolute tool and you probably are if you both lift a lot and have that haircut. Anyone who actually does mans work for a living thinks fashion is gay in general
>>61111787
Now we're getting somewhere
>>61110990
>San Francisco
what do you think is the reason landlords are stupid enough to jack up the rent? all that is going to do is shift the desirability to the east bay, the safeway i used to go to has been replaced with a whole foods among other things
source: i grew up in concord
>>61111849
plebs will be plebs
>>61110534
it's not always about race but the general idea is that wealthy people spruce up a neighborhood and drive all the previous inhabitants out.
>>61111881
Its already shifting. Oakland is getting as bad as SF. At least rent prices in SF are getting so high that even techies can't afford to live in the city. I'm really grateful that my family actually owns their house here, otherwise I'd be living in a shithole like Antioch.
The shins
>>61111111
Nice
>>61110090
I live in Portland OR, and I believe your image concisely sums up most of the annoying aspects of living in this city.
>>61111111
wew lad
>>61112448
once you get past the stereo type of the foodie, gulten free, micro brew stuff portland is pretty nice and the people are pretty friendly
>>61112448
>The way other people book
>The way other people get around
>The drinks other people choose
go to bed wrest.
>>61111111
>>61111849
you sound like a tool yourself to be honest
>>61111111
>>61111111
replied to you on another thread just to find you bb <3 <3
>>61111111
I like this get
>>61111111
someone reply to me, i'm so alone i want to die
>>61110276
Ever heard of vikings?
>>61111849
I work a phsyical job and also keep up with fashion because I'm not a caveman.
>>61112957
no bb
>>61111111
anything /mu/ rec's
seriously
>>61111111
le confused nigger face
>>61111111
He's kinda cute
>>61111146
Why is this anon so mas tho?
>>61111111
can I be the bearer of your children?
>>61111111
>>61111111
>>61111111
>dem hepts
>>61110534
>law-abiding, non-violent people
>the city becomes prosperous, safer and clean
how is this a bad thing?
to answer your question though it's less racially motivated and more economically motivated
>>61111624
culture is transient anyways
>>61111613
everyone is leaving east palo alto
all these tech fags are moving in
>>61111111
>>61110775
literally the plot of that one South Park episode
Jamie XX
A Whole Foods
>>61110183
the fact that you had to post to defend yourself tells a lot
>>61111111
Nice get
>>61111001
Why does it matter to you? You should be listening to music because you like the way it sounds and not because youre trying to seem "patrician"
>>61110311
>those beards are just what happen when you don't shave for a while
That's literally what a beard is senpai
>>61110846
Yeah I agree, it's awkward as fuck. Just say black people like a normal down to earth human being
Gentrification is just a natural thing, people and cultures always shift and move around. Just let things play out, the best action is non action, sometimes over reaction just makes things much worse
>>61114857
Yeah but it displaces tons and tons of people.
>>61110283
"gentrification" is literally niggers getting angry when self-respecting human beings tidy up their shitty ghettos
ah yes, you are correct, >>61110534
>>60000000
Hmm
>>61111111
woah dere
>>61110770
>This uproots shitty people that basically throw garbage everywhere, rob people, shit in the street, encourage crime, live in an area with potential for normalcy but which do not appreciate it
gentrification hipsters will listen to rap to try and blend in
gentrification is just correcting the damage that ghettofication has done
>>61110183
>>61110223
>>61114792
>not getting obvious troll, kek
>>61110214
fwiw that look is on it's way out and will be considered as goofy as the mullet in the future
>>61110577
>>61110626
>>61110662
Feels good living on the East Coast and having good non-PBR cheap beer.
>>61110835
Hipsters are living off of mommy and daddy's money. They can afford to be failures that live in the city because they're not white trash that have to work blue collar jobs.
>>61111022
>its not necessarily a bad thing but it pretty much always kills the art scene in the area.
OH MY FUCKING GOD.
Someone finally says it, I was going to point this out.
Artists are poor motherfuckers, a bunch of trust fund kids moving into a neighborhood and jacking up all the prices on the poor punks, artists, and drug addicts so they can parasitically feed off of the fruits of their labor will end the vibrant art scene that they were attracted to in the first place.
Fuck gentrification. I want to move to a city because it's grimy, slimy, and I can get shit done while not having to drive everywhere for a gig. If you can afford to live in a posh neighborhood, you can afford to commute there too.
>>61111067
>There are small redneck towns all over the US that are basically ghettos but with white people
>Trust me, I've been living in white trash towns for all my life.
Nobody gives a fuck about white trash towns because they are worthless.
>>61113489
Shopping at Urban Outfitters and having the same haircut as everyone else isn't fashion m8.
